History YMMV / FrankZappa

14th Jul '16 1:45:12 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Generally Zappa's 1960s and 1970s output is held in high regard by most fans. His later output is more polarizing. Some fans consider it [[TimeMarchesOn politically dated]] (with explicit references to the Reagan era); others complain that although it's musically more slick, it's instrumentally less varied (the usual complaint being along the lines that the rock songs don't sound as colorful as in the 1970s); or else the fans just consider the later stuff obnoxious and irritating. Two of his most hated records are both from this time period: ''Music/TheManFromUtopia'' (1982) and ''Music/ThingFish'' (1985), yet [[ActuallyPrettyFunny even these have their fans]]. His classical compositions from this era get a bit more praise, though some feel he shouldn't have used the Synclavier as much. Zappa, who hated conformity, seems to have thrived on Base Breaking.

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* BaseBreaker: BrokenBase: Generally Zappa's 1960s and 1970s output is held in high regard by most fans. His later output is more polarizing. Some fans consider it [[TimeMarchesOn politically dated]] (with explicit references to the Reagan era); others complain that although it's musically more slick, it's instrumentally less varied (the usual complaint being along the lines that the rock songs don't sound as colorful as in the 1970s); or else the fans just consider the later stuff obnoxious and irritating. Two of his most hated records are both from this time period: ''Music/TheManFromUtopia'' (1982) and ''Music/ThingFish'' (1985), yet [[ActuallyPrettyFunny even these have their fans]]. His classical compositions from this era get a bit more praise, though some feel he shouldn't have used the Synclavier as much. Zappa, who hated conformity, seems to have thrived on Base Breaking.
3rd Mar '16 5:03:27 PM DavidDelony
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* YokoOhNo: A lot of fans disliked Gail for her heavy-handed approach to handling Zappa's posthumous affairs.
8th Feb '16 5:22:10 AM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: As expected for a musician with such a long career, Zappa has several contenders. Commonly cited choices include ''Music/FreakOut'', ''Music/AbsolutelyFree'', ''Music/WereOnlyInItForTheMoney'', ''Music/HotRats'', ''Music/{{Lather}}'', and ''Music/CivilizationPhazeIII''. The last two, given their length and the fact that Zappa was dying when he composed the latter, seem to have been consciously crafted as such.
1st Dec '15 10:50:36 AM kyeo
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* UnfortunateImplications: On songs like "Sy Borg," Zappa seemed to find the idea of homosexual sex very funny. And there's plenty of examples of women being objectified in his music, cf. the Wet T-shirt example listed above.

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* UnfortunateImplications: On songs like "Sy Borg," Zappa seemed to find the idea of homosexual sex [[http://themeekinherit.blogspot.com/2010/12/zappadan-10.html very funny. funny]]. And there's plenty of examples of [[http://www.sfgate.com/books/article/Frank-Zappa-s-contradiction-brilliant-music-by-2661500.php women being objectified objectified]] in his music, cf. the Wet T-shirt example listed above.
10th Nov '15 7:43:17 AM Anddrix
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* DudeNotFunny: A lot of songs can get this reaction. {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d by a compilation titled ''Have I Offended Someone?'' collecting some of his most controversial songs.
24th Sep '15 12:03:19 PM heretoeditisall
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** "Trouble Every Day" was written about the rioting in Watts some decades ago, but it sounds like it could've been written within the past 3-5 years. Not one word of the song even needs to be changed to be relevant to today's political and racial climate after the killings of Trayvon Martin, Mike Brown and many others.
3rd Jun '15 11:43:38 AM CassandraLeo
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* MagnumOpus: As expected for a musician with such a long career, Zappa has several contenders. Commonly cited choices include ''Music/FreakOut'', ''Music/AbsolutelyFree'', ''Music/WereOnlyInItForTheMoney'', ''Music/HotRats'', ''Music/{{Lather}}'', and ''Music/CivilizationPhazeIII''. The last two, given their length and the fact that Zappa was dying when he composed the latter, seem to have been consciously crafted as such.
23rd Mar '15 7:54:15 AM kyeo
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* UnfortunateImplications: On songs like "Sy Borg," Zappa seemed to find the idea of homosexual sex very funny. And there's plenty of examples of women being objectified in his music, cf. the Wet T-shirt example listed above.
4th Mar '15 4:29:56 PM Patachou
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* BaseBreaker: Generally Zappa's 1960s and 1970s output is held in high regard by most fans. His later output is more polarizing. Some fans consider it [[TimeMarchesOn politically dated]] (with explicit references to the Reagan era); others complain that although it's musically more slick, it's instrumentally less varied (the usual complaint being along the lines that the rock songs don't sound as colorful as in the 1970s); or else the fans just consider the later stuff obnoxious and irritating. Two of his most hated records are both from this time period: ''The Man From Utopia'' (1982) and ''Thing-Fish'' (1985), yet [[ActuallyPrettyFunny even these have their fans]]. His classical compositions from this era get a bit more praise, though some feel he shouldn't have used the Synclavier as much. Zappa, who hated conformity, seems to have thrived on Base Breaking.

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* BaseBreaker: Generally Zappa's 1960s and 1970s output is held in high regard by most fans. His later output is more polarizing. Some fans consider it [[TimeMarchesOn politically dated]] (with explicit references to the Reagan era); others complain that although it's musically more slick, it's instrumentally less varied (the usual complaint being along the lines that the rock songs don't sound as colorful as in the 1970s); or else the fans just consider the later stuff obnoxious and irritating. Two of his most hated records are both from this time period: ''The Man From Utopia'' ''Music/TheManFromUtopia'' (1982) and ''Thing-Fish'' ''Music/ThingFish'' (1985), yet [[ActuallyPrettyFunny even these have their fans]]. His classical compositions from this era get a bit more praise, though some feel he shouldn't have used the Synclavier as much. Zappa, who hated conformity, seems to have thrived on Base Breaking.



* FirstInstallmentWins: His first and third albums, ''Music/FreakOut'' and ''Music/WereOnlyInItForTheMoney'', are the only ones on ''Rolling Stone'''s ''500 Greatest Albums Of All Time'', despite being listed as one of the 100 greatest musicians by the same magazine.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: His first and third albums, ''Music/FreakOut'' and ''Music/WereOnlyInItForTheMoney'', are the only ones on ''Rolling Stone'''s ''Magazine/RollingStone'''s ''500 Greatest Albums Of All Time'', despite being listed as one of the 100 greatest musicians by the same magazine.



* GeniusBonus: The premise behind the story of ''Joe's Garage''.

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* GeniusBonus: The premise behind the story of ''Joe's Garage''.''Music/JoesGarage''.



** {{Valley Girl}}s even though his song "Valley Girl" was really a TakeThat from Moon Unit Zappa at the Valley Girls at her school.

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** {{Valley Girl}}s even though his song "Valley Girl" from ''Music/ShipArrivingTooLateToSaveADrowningWitch'' was really a TakeThat from Moon Unit Zappa at the Valley Girls at her school.



** ''Thing-Fish'' goes from a grave piece of HighConcept toliterally devolving into a massive orgy by album's end.

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** ''Thing-Fish'' ''Music/ThingFish'' goes from a grave piece of HighConcept toliterally devolving into a massive orgy by album's end.
3rd Mar '15 5:14:55 AM Patachou
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** "You Are What You Is" described a black man who learned how to play golf and got a good score, pretty much predicting Tiger Woods' claim to fame.

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** "You Are What You Is" ''Music/YouAreWhatYouIs'' described a black man who learned how to play golf and got a good score, pretty much predicting Tiger Woods' claim to fame.
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