History YMMV / FireEmblemJugdral

25th Aug '16 5:46:00 AM ChrisX
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** "I kill X for Y". [[spoiler:Literally, for some characters whose substitute children are considered more preferable character-wise or stat-wise, then the mother (X) must be left childless or get thrown off to a bunch of enemies to die so you get the substitute (Y) instead. Two characters that are unfortunate enough to get this usually include either Tailto or Sylvia (for either Linda or Laylea)]]

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** "I kill X for Y". [[spoiler:Literally, for some characters whose substitute children are considered more preferable character-wise or stat-wise, then the mother (X) must be left childless or get thrown off to a bunch of enemies to die so you get the substitute (Y) instead. Two characters that are unfortunate enough to get this usually include either Tailto or Sylvia (for either Linda or Laylea)]]Laylea), and in Tailto's case, it can be substituted as a way to give her a MercyKill, because her death should she sired her children was just plain too depressing.]]
18th Jul '16 6:34:04 AM Morgenthaler
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* CounterpartComparison: Sigurd is the [[Series/ASongOfIceAndFire Ned Stark]] of Fire Emblem. Like Ned Stark he is an honorable man of noble birth that is beloved by his people. He leaves his homeland for the sake of a friend and is subsequently caught up in a plot where his honorable nature compels him to make well-meaning but misguided decisions that end up helping the DangerouslyGenreSavvy antagonists, who are secretly plotting to seize power through manipulations and treachery. In the end he is falsely branded a traitor and executed by the ruler of the new regime, with his offspring fighting said regime in part to avenge him. On a meta level, both characters are established as the main protagonist [[DecoyProtagonist but are killed off well before the end of their respective stories]] in an infamous WhamEpisode.

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* CounterpartComparison: Sigurd is the [[Series/ASongOfIceAndFire Ned Stark]] of Fire Emblem. Like Ned Stark he is an honorable man of noble birth that is beloved by his people. He leaves his homeland for the sake of a friend and is subsequently caught up in a plot where his honorable nature compels him to make well-meaning but misguided decisions that end up helping the DangerouslyGenreSavvy antagonists, who are secretly plotting to seize power through manipulations and treachery. In the end he is falsely branded a traitor and executed by the ruler of the new regime, with his offspring fighting said regime in part to avenge him. On a meta level, both characters are established as the main protagonist [[DecoyProtagonist but are killed off well before the end of their respective stories]] in an infamous WhamEpisode.
10th Jul '16 3:38:35 PM GoldenSonic64
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** Marty is [[ManlyGay the Man Whom Dagdar Loved]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A somewhat questionable translation of Marty's ending. Expect this to be said every time Marty or Dagdar are discussed.[[/labelnote]]

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** Marty is [[ManlyGay the '''[[ManlyGay The Man Whom Dagdar Loved]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A Loved]]'''[[labelnote:Explanation]]A somewhat questionable translation of Marty's ending. Expect this to be said every time Marty or Dagdar are discussed.[[/labelnote]]
10th Jul '16 3:34:12 PM GoldenSonic64
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** Marty is [[ManlyGay the Man Whom Dagdar Loved]][[labelnote:Explanation]]A somewhat questionable translation of Marty's ending. Expect this to be said every time Marty or Dagdar are discussed.[[/labelnote]]
15th Jun '16 10:59:26 PM ChrisX
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* LoveToHate: What Manfroy did is very horrible and qualifies him as a CompleteMonster, but in the same time, he's such a master planner that it becomes a quality for his villain creeds. Succeeding said plans also help too. Which amounts a lot more when you compare him with [[HateSink Hilda.]]



** And Ferry? She. Has. FURY!!

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** And Ferry? She. Has. FURY!!FURY!! [[labelnote:Explanation]]A side-effect of a very amusing Franchise/SuperMarioBros villain, Fawful, to exclaim "I HAVE FURY", and Ferry was actually called 'Fury' in the old translation patches. To avert this, the Project Naga patch instead renamed her 'Erin'[[/labelnote]]


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** When you were first introduced with Hilda on screen, you might think she's just a particularly sadistic duchess, but nothing special when you compare with others like Danan or Bloom. She even tried to make you think that she's just trying to preserve the Freege house reputation and also avenging her son Ishtore. Then [[spoiler:you sent Teeny/Linda to face her and she starts gloating happily about how she drove Tailto/Ethnia to depressing death and rubbing it to their faces that she ''enjoyed'' every bit of it. That's the point that all her 'positive' points were swept over and everyone starts demanding her blood for righteous vengeance on those poor ladies.]]
12th Jun '16 5:34:28 PM WaxingName
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* CounterpartComparison: Sigurd is the [[Series/ASongOfIceAndFire Ned Stark]] of Fire Emblem. Like Ned Stark he is an honorable man of noble birth that is beloved by his people. He leaves his homeland for the sake of a friend and is subsequently caught up in a plot where his honorable nature compels him to make well-meaning but misguided decisions that end up helping the DangerouslyGenreSavvy antagonists, who are secretly plotting to seize power through manipulations and treachery. In the end he is falsely branded a traitor and executed by the ruler of the new regime, with his offspring fighting said regime in part to avenge him. On a meta level, both characters are established as the main protagonist [[DecoyProtagonist but are killed off well before the end of their respective stories]] in an infamous WhamEpisode.



* SurprisinglySimilarCharacters: Sigurd is the [[Series/ASongOfIceAndFire Ned Stark]] of Fire Emblem. Like Ned Stark he is an honorable man of noble birth that is beloved by his people. He leaves his homeland for the sake of a friend and is subsequently caught up in a plot where his honorable nature compels him to make well-meaning but misguided decisions that end up helping the DangerouslyGenreSavvy antagonists, who are secretly plotting to seize power through manipulations and treachery. In the end he is falsely branded a traitor and executed by the ruler of the new regime, with his offspring fighting said regime in part to avenge him. On a meta level, both characters are established as the main protagonist [[DecoyProtagonist but are killed off well before the end of their respective stories]] in an infamous WhamEpisode.
10th Jun '16 12:04:15 AM BigKlingy
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** Finn, for being a character who survived part 1, including being usable in both Genealogy and Thracia 776, and being a solid character for both of them. [[http://imgur.com/a/f5COM In a series-wide poll conducted by Famitsu]], Finn came in the ''top ten'' alongside well-loved characters like Lyn and Hector.

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** Finn, for being a character who survived part 1, including being usable in both Genealogy and Thracia 776, and being a solid character for both of them. [[http://imgur.com/a/f5COM In a series-wide poll conducted by Famitsu]], Finn came in the ''top ten'' alongside well-loved characters like Lyn and Hector. (Notably, he was one of only two in that list who weren't Lords, the other being [[BreakoutCharacter Tiki]])
3rd Jun '16 5:04:37 AM eowynjedi
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* {{Narm}}: As if the narmification of the [[spoiler: Battle of Belhalla]] via limited graphic quality wasn't enough, a ''[[HaveAGayOldTime very]]'' [[HaveAGayOldTime antiquated word]] usage in some fan translations ruins it all over again.

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
** Deirdre and Sigurd's romance goes beyond FourthDateMarriage. After meeting each other ''once'', both of them are pining and a separation of just a few turns is enough for them to say things like "I was afraid I'd never see you again!" Even if you interpret 1 turn = 1 day, that's a pretty short time to be saying wistful things like "I tried to forget you" about a person you've known for ten minutes.
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As if the narmification of the [[spoiler: Battle of Belhalla]] via limited graphic quality wasn't enough, a ''[[HaveAGayOldTime very]]'' [[HaveAGayOldTime antiquated word]] usage in some fan translations ruins it all over again.
16th May '16 5:05:13 PM RaustBD
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** Arden, dear lord. Also, do NOT mention wanting to use your high priests as combat units. Ever. Sylvia and her children (Leen and Corple) aren't well-liked either, forum discussions will practically ''implore'' you to kill Sylvia or not pair her up and take the substitutes Laylea and Sharlow. Tailto and her children often receive similar reactions; while most would agree that Teeny and Arthur are ''usually'' better than Linda and Amid, Tailto herself is regarded as an awful unit who requires too much babying to be worth it, and pairing her with anyone but Lewyn or Azel (who both have other, potentially better pairings) is generally regarded as pointless.

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** Arden, dear lord. Also, do NOT mention wanting to use your high priests as combat units. Ever. Sylvia and her children (Leen and Corple) aren't well-liked either, forum discussions will practically ''implore'' you to kill Sylvia or not pair her up and take the substitutes Laylea and Sharlow.Sharlow (basically both Leen and Corple are going to be garbage in combat no matter who their father is unless Corple is Lewyn's son, and Laylea and Sharlow come with charisma and elite respectively, two skills that make them much better at their non-combat jobs). Tailto and her children often receive similar reactions; while most would agree that Teeny and Arthur are ''usually'' better than Linda and Amid, Tailto herself is regarded as an awful unit who requires too much babying to be worth it, and pairing her with anyone but Lewyn or Azel (who both have other, potentially better pairings) is generally regarded as pointless.
16th May '16 1:13:50 AM Bartzv
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* SurprisinglySimilarCharacters: Sigurd is the [[Series/ASongOfIceAndFire Ned Stark]] of Fire Emblem. Like Ned Stark he is an honorable man of noble birth that is beloved by his people. He leaves his homeland for the sake of a friend and is subsequently caught up in a plot where his honorable nature compels him to make well-meaning but misguided decisions that end up helping the DangerouslyGenreSavvy antagonists, who are secretly plotting to seize power through manipulations and treachery. In the end he is falsely branded a traitor and executed by the ruler of the new regime, with his offspring fighting said regime in part to avenge him. On a meta level, both characters are established as the main protagonist [[DecoyProtagonist but get killed well before the end of their respective stories]] in an infamous WhamEpisode.

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* SurprisinglySimilarCharacters: Sigurd is the [[Series/ASongOfIceAndFire Ned Stark]] of Fire Emblem. Like Ned Stark he is an honorable man of noble birth that is beloved by his people. He leaves his homeland for the sake of a friend and is subsequently caught up in a plot where his honorable nature compels him to make well-meaning but misguided decisions that end up helping the DangerouslyGenreSavvy antagonists, who are secretly plotting to seize power through manipulations and treachery. In the end he is falsely branded a traitor and executed by the ruler of the new regime, with his offspring fighting said regime in part to avenge him. On a meta level, both characters are established as the main protagonist [[DecoyProtagonist but get are killed off well before the end of their respective stories]] in an infamous WhamEpisode.
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