History YMMV / FireEmblemElibe

2nd Nov '16 6:32:10 AM SaraJaye
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** Florina. The player base is quite evenly divided about her. Some love her for her usefulness in-game, her {{Moe}} qualities, and her supports, while others (particularly in the west) perceive her as annoying, [[FlatCharacter flat]], or even misandrist. [[AngstDissonance That most of the other cast members have to deal with far more problematic issues, but do so far more calmly, probably doesn't help.]]

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** Florina. The player base is quite evenly divided about her. Some love her for her usefulness in-game, her {{Moe}} qualities, and her supports, while others (particularly in the west) perceive her as annoying, annoying or [[FlatCharacter flat]], or even misandrist. [[AngstDissonance That most of the other cast members have to deal with far more problematic issues, but do so far more calmly, probably doesn't help.]] flat]].
1st Nov '16 9:42:09 PM SaraJaye
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* TheScrappy: Roy is by far the most disliked Lord among fans of the series. Even putting aside his poor stats, his character is generally seen to be flat with no development throughout the story. It doesn't help that when he does get active, he tends to make poor decisions, and unlike other Lords who suffer from that problem, he never faces any real consequences for them. He has a few defenders, but only from fans of his ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' portrayal, and those who like his canon portrayal are virtually nonexistent.

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* TheScrappy: Roy is by far the most disliked Lord among fans of the series. Even putting aside his poor stats, his character is generally seen to be flat with no little development throughout the story. It doesn't help that when he does get active, he tends to make poor decisions, and unlike other Lords who suffer from that problem, he never faces any real consequences for them. He has a few defenders, but only mainly from fans of his ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' portrayal, and those who like his canon portrayal are virtually nonexistent.few and far between.
** FE6 Merlinus is grumpy and bitter for good reason, but many fans found him to be an asshole who took up way too much screen time before the real meat of the plot kicked in. Gameplay-wise, he takes up a spot on your roster rather than the game asking if you want to deploy him, and if his HP reaches zero at any point you lose all the items he was holding for you. Luckily, unlike in FE7, you don't have to bring him out to send items.
1st Nov '16 9:33:07 PM SaraJaye
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** Erk, mainly for having to deal with Serra.

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** Erk, mainly for having to deal Erk has some issues with Serra.being close to people, and though his supports don't detail it he's most likely an orphan who never had a loving family before Pent and Louise.
23rd Oct '16 2:06:32 PM dlchen145
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** Lyndis is also widely considered one of the most popular female characters in the entire series overseas, regardless of her waning importance in-story after the first few chapters. Having a {{Badass}} ActionGirl for a Lord class for their GatewaySeries really helps both her and the series in general in the Western regions. While her popularity in Japan is no slouch either, since she's a consistent DLC character in later titles and an Assist Trophy in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', her mini-campaign is generally seen as an obnoxiously long ForcedTutorial for anyone familiar enough with the games' mechanics to not need it.

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** Lyndis is also widely considered one of the most popular female characters in the entire series overseas, regardless of her waning importance in-story after the first few chapters. Having a {{Badass}} badass ActionGirl for a Lord class for their GatewaySeries really helps both her and the series in general in the Western regions. While her popularity in Japan is no slouch either, since she's a consistent DLC character in later titles and an Assist Trophy in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'', her mini-campaign is generally seen as an obnoxiously long ForcedTutorial for anyone familiar enough with the games' mechanics to not need it.
13th Oct '16 6:42:27 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* DieForOurShip: Thanks to the multitude of romance options, there are almost too many to count. Lowen[[note]]for Rebecca/Wil[[/note]], Priscilla[[note]]for Raven/Lucius and others[[/note]], and Ninian[[note]]for Eliwood/Lyn[[/note]] get hit pretty badly with it.

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* DieForOurShip: Thanks to the multitude of romance options, there are almost too many to count. Lowen[[note]]for Rebecca/Wil[[/note]], Priscilla[[note]]for Raven/Lucius and others[[/note]], and Ninian[[note]]for Eliwood/Lyn[[/note]] Eliwood/Lyn and sometimes Eliwood/Fiora[[/note]] get hit pretty badly with it.



** Raven/Lucius is basically borderline canon and has a lot of subtext in the game.It also helps that Raven and Lucius have a A-support ending that is very similar to Ike/Soren.

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** Raven/Lucius is basically borderline canon and has a lot of subtext in the game. It also helps that Raven and Lucius have a A-support ending that is very similar to Ike/Soren.



** Lyndis herself gets hit with both sides of this trope. On one hand, she was one of the main leads in the first game the West ever got, and a female lead at that. For fans who haven't gone out of their way to play older games (which have characters like Caeda and Ayra, '''([[MemeticBadass especially]]''' Ayra), she is ''the'' female character against whom all others are subject to, and barring Lucina, they never measure up. On the other, while she is the lead of the prologue, she fades into the Tritagonist for the real leads: Eliwood and Hector, both of whom are important in ''The Binding Blade'', which some fans find annoying.

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** Lyndis herself gets hit with both sides of this trope. On one hand, she was one of the main leads in the first game the West ever got, and a female lead at that. For fans who haven't gone out of their way to play older games (which have characters like Caeda and Ayra, '''([[MemeticBadass especially]]''' Ayra), she is ''the'' female character against whom all others are subject to, and barring Lucina, they never measure up. On the other, while she is the lead of the prologue, she fades into the Tritagonist for the real leads: Eliwood and Hector, both of whom are important in ''The Binding Blade'', Blade'' which some fans find annoying.annoying since they "forget" that Lyn was ''created out of cloth'' for ''Blazing Sword'' and, unlike Hector and Eliwood, the writing team had no leads about her from the beginning.
7th Oct '16 9:39:01 AM 0219110
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** Over half the playable cast of ''The Binding Blade'' qualifies, with poor stats and subpar growths. It really helps breed ComplacentGamingSyndrome, especially on hard mode, when some of the already well-regarded recruits get some ''ridiculous'' HardModePerks.
29th Sep '16 7:02:12 AM technickal
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** Lyndis. Not exactly the most relevant Lord after the tutorial stages, in fact her importance kinda waned after that with Eliwood and Hector taking center stage. Yet, she's still probably the most popular lady in Fire Emblem series, behind only [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Lucina]] and [[Characters/FireEmblem Tiki]]. Also see, GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.

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** Lyndis. Not exactly the most relevant Lord after the tutorial stages, in fact her importance kinda waned after that with Eliwood and Hector taking center stage. Yet, she's still probably the third most popular lady in Fire Emblem series, behind only [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Lucina]] and [[Characters/FireEmblem Tiki]]. Also see, GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.



* FranchiseOriginalSin: As the series that overhauled ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy's]]'' "Love and War" system into the modern [[RelationshipValues Support]] [[LevelUpAtIntimacy5 mechanic]], fans often consider the Elibe titles the gold standard when it comes to Support writing quality, character development, and proper romantic escalation when appropriate. But, while the five-Support cap left most players unable to see most of them in one play-through and did much to disguise the problem, Elibe saw just as much broad comic fluff, poor character development, and weakly developed romance in its conversations. Later titles merely had quality control issues from the [[CombinatorialExplosion sheer number of Supports]] and the "marriage and children" mechanic muddying up the issue. ''Awakening'' in particular got hit pretty hard ''just for removing the five-support limit'', which many fans [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor wanted to see gone]] [[GoneHorriblyRight before realizing what would happen as a consequence]].

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As the series that overhauled ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy's]]'' "Love and War" system into the modern [[RelationshipValues Support]] [[LevelUpAtIntimacy5 mechanic]], fans often consider the Elibe titles the gold standard when it comes to Support writing quality, character development, and proper romantic escalation when appropriate. But, while the five-Support cap left most players unable to see most of them in one play-through and did much to disguise the problem, Elibe saw just as much broad comic fluff, poor character development, and weakly developed romance in its conversations. Later titles merely had quality control issues from the [[CombinatorialExplosion sheer number of Supports]] and the "marriage and children" mechanic muddying up the issue. ''Awakening'' in particular got hit pretty hard ''just for removing the five-support limit'', which many fans [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor wanted to see gone]] [[GoneHorriblyRight before realizing what would happen as a consequence]].consequence]].
** ''Blazing Sword'' was the game in which ''Fire Emblem'' armor designs started to become less practical and more {{Fanservice}}y. Barely anyone noticed at the time, but it became increasingly unsubtle in later games.


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* HypeBacklash: ''Blazing Sword'' has gotten this in later years from fans who grew up with ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones The Sacred Stones]]'', ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Tellius]]'', or the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening 3DS]] [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates games]]. They argue that it's a rather bland ''Fire Emblem'' game without the NostalgiaFilter, and especially criticize the ProlongedPrologue[=/=]ForcedTutorial that is Lyn Mode.
23rd Sep '16 1:12:49 PM MrUnderhill
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** The Luna Tome is the most accurate weapon in the game, has a high Critical Hit rating, and ignores Resistance, allowing its wielder to inflict guaranteed damage even [[ArmorPiercing if the target is magic-resistant]] or [[ScissorsCutsRock a Light magic user]]. ''Any'' of these traits makes for an excellent tome in its own right, but combined, they make Luna the ultimate boss killer. Given that the only two mages who can wield it, Athos and Canas, are considered to be some of the strongest in the game, it is not out of the ordinary for a Luna-equipped Canas or Athos to defeat both final bosses in a round or two each. Because of this, Luna got a huge {{Nerf}} in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones The Sacred Stones]]'', rendering it circumstantial at best.

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** The Luna Tome is the most accurate weapon in the game, has a high Critical Hit rating, and ignores Resistance, allowing its wielder to inflict guaranteed damage even [[ArmorPiercing if the target is magic-resistant]] or [[ScissorsCutsRock a Light magic user]]. ''Any'' Any ''one'' of these traits makes for would make an excellent tome in its own right, but combined, they make Luna the ultimate boss killer. Given that the only two mages who can wield it, Athos and Canas, are considered to be some of the strongest in the game, it is not out of the ordinary for a Luna-equipped Canas or Athos to defeat both final bosses in a round or two each. Because of this, Luna got a huge {{Nerf}} in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones The Sacred Stones]]'', rendering it circumstantial at best.
17th Sep '16 11:41:28 PM Eagal
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* ScrappyMechanic: Though it helps characters' fighting abilities, [[ShipperOnDeck those of us who like shipping]] will get frustrated about characters having only one love interest and sharing that interest with another person in support conversations. It distracts from the game a little too much and it takes a ''very'' long time to get the supports done. Arguably made worse by the fact that not everyone's shared endings are necessarily happy.

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* ScrappyMechanic: Though it helps characters' fighting abilities, [[ShipperOnDeck those of us who like shipping]] will get frustrated about characters having only one love interest and sharing that interest with another person in support conversations. It distracts from the game a little too much and it takes a ''very'' long time to get the supports done. Arguably made Made worse by the fact that not everyone's shared endings are necessarily happy.
17th Sep '16 11:34:41 PM Eagal
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* BilingualBonus: Overlaps with PunnyName for the Pegasus Sisters. Florina and Fiora are both variations on the word "flos", a Latin word meaning "flower". Their sister Farina, on the other hand, is named after the Italian word for flour.
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