History YMMV / FinalFantasyIV

17th Jan '16 12:01:10 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad, was TheCorrupter of, and {{the man behind|TheMan}}, Golbez, Zemus was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE true BigBad, was TheCorrupter of, and {{the man behind|TheMan}}, Golbez, Golbez. Zemus was was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully peacefully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
5th Jan '16 9:49:53 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad as well as TheCorrupter of, and {{the man behind|TheMan}}, Golbez, was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad as well as BigBad, was TheCorrupter of, and {{the man behind|TheMan}}, Golbez, Zemus was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
5th Jan '16 9:49:08 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad as well as TheCorrupter of, and {{TheManBehind|TheMan}}, Golbez, was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad as well as TheCorrupter of, and {{TheManBehind|TheMan}}, {{the man behind|TheMan}}, Golbez, was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
5th Jan '16 9:46:54 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad and TheManBehindTheMan who [[TheCorrupter corrupted]] Golbez, was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
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* CompleteMonster: [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad as well as TheCorrupter of, and TheManBehindTheMan who [[TheCorrupter corrupted]] {{TheManBehind|TheMan}}, Golbez, was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
3rd Jan '16 9:37:06 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Zemus, the TRUE BigBad and TheManBehindTheMan who [[TheCorrupter corrupted]] Golbez, was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
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* CompleteMonster: Zemus, [[KillAllHumans Zemus]], the TRUE BigBad and TheManBehindTheMan who [[TheCorrupter corrupted]] Golbez, was the only Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied]] that Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
3rd Jan '16 9:36:19 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: ** Depraved MadScientist Doctor Lugae proves to be the template for monstrous scientists in the series, who [[spoiler: transformed Edge's parents into chimerae, as well as gleefully altered his composition into a monster himself.]] His actions disgusted his superior, NobleDemon Rubicante, to the point where the latter had to explain to the party he was just as offended as them with Lugae. Remarkably, he has himself very little screen time, but he nonetheless makes ''very'' good use of it. ** The ''true'' monster villain of the game is [[spoiler: Zemus]]. He was the only voice pushing for world domination among [[spoiler: the Lunarians, same bloodline as Cecil and Golbez/Theodor]]. [[spoiler: Zemus]] was forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, [[spoiler: Zemus]] also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a Paladin. It is also strongly implied that [[spoiler: Zemus]] was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Fiends.
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* CompleteMonster: ** Depraved MadScientist Doctor Lugae proves to be CompleteMonster: Zemus, the template for monstrous scientists in the series, TRUE BigBad and TheManBehindTheMan who [[spoiler: transformed Edge's parents into chimerae, as well as gleefully altered his composition into a monster himself.]] His actions disgusted his superior, NobleDemon Rubicante, to the point where the latter had to explain to the party he was just as offended as them with Lugae. Remarkably, he has himself very little screen time, but he nonetheless makes ''very'' good use of it. ** The ''true'' monster villain of the game is [[spoiler: Zemus]]. He [[TheCorrupter corrupted]] Golbez, was the only voice Lunarian (of which [[TheHero Cecil]] and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Golbez]] are each half-Lunarian) pushing for world domination among [[spoiler: the Lunarians, same bloodline as Cecil and Golbez/Theodor]]. [[spoiler: Zemus]] was to conquer earth, resulting in him being forced by his own people to fall into a millennium-long coma to allow humanity to evolve until the two could coexist peacfully together. Even in this state, he is ''still'' capable of manipulating Golbez to carry out his [[FinalSolution unsettlingly extreme]] dreams of an all-Lunarian utopia, which involves not only committing the atrocities throughout the entire game, but also using the [[ArtificialHuman artificial]] [[EldritchAbomination abomination]] Giant of Babil capable of dealing massive amounts of racially-based genocide on a global scale. Besides Golbez, [[spoiler: Zemus]] Zemus also manipulates Kain during his fight with Cecil, who has turned into a Paladin. paladin. It is also [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears strongly implied implied]] that [[spoiler: Zemus]] Zemus was responsible for the brainwashing of the four essences' incarnations, thus being responsible for the atrocities committed by the Elemental Fiends.Archfiends. It is revealed that Zemus's hatred is so strong, that after his defeat, he turns into [[EldritchAbomination Zeromus]], a being "fed by Zemus's unbridled hate…who knows naught but hate!"
29th Dec '15 10:28:38 PM Aquillion
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**Many people who only played the English SNES release and then the NDS (or Steam) 3D release thought that the latter had been made substantially more difficult or had had numerous changes to the combat rules. In fact, almost all of these were originally in the Japanese SNES version, and were removed from the Easytype and English releases to reduce their difficulty.
2nd Oct '15 11:47:12 AM DrakeClawfang
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not YMMV and poorly written anyway
* DifficultySpike: Is it just me, or once you get Edge in the SNES version, you face a huge DifficultySpike? The next place you're supposed to go to, is the Sealed Cave, and the monsters in there downright hurt compared to the stuff you were fighting in the Tower of Bab-il, not to mention the [[ThatOneBoss Demon Wall]] at the end of it. You could instead go to the Land of Summoned Monsters, or even the Sylph Cave side-quests, but you can't complete either as the Rat Tail and Yang's Mother requires you to go to the Surface (which you can't do yet, because the volcano at Agart is still collapsed thanks to Cid). Meanwhile, the enemies get harder, but don't give you very much XP -- battles commonly give 800-1200, about the same as the battles gave when you first came to the Underworld in the first place, except for a very few enemies that give more (and are more than 5x as hard to kill and hit 3x as hard as the weak stuff). For as hard as enemies hit about this point in the game, they sure don't give anything worthwile in XP, do they?
24th Sep '15 1:34:26 AM SpaceDrake
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** The ''music'' also falls victim to this, after a fashion. It still sounds good even today, for sure, but in 1991 going from [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPQ5qxThDK8 this]] to '''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYwagM63UBc this]]''', from NES FM synth to near-perfect [[{{UsefulNotes/MOD}} MOD orchestration-sampling]] gave one a sensation difficult to describe in written words.
13th Sep '15 4:19:38 PM Sabrewing
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* {{Narm}}: On the one hand, the original Super NES release gave us "You SpoonyBard". On the other hand, when Tellah uses Meteor against Golbez, his reaction is the entirely out-of-character "[[TotallyRadical No way]]!"
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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}: ** On the one hand, the original Super NES release gave us "You SpoonyBard". On the other hand, when Tellah uses Meteor against Golbez, his reaction is the entirely out-of-character "[[TotallyRadical No way]]!"way]]!" ** The KO status being "[[NeverSayDie Swooned]]" in the SNES translation. Apparently, being grieviously hurt makes you faint in ecstacy.
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