History YMMV / FarnhamsFreehold

7th Feb '15 12:50:13 PM LBHills
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{{Anvilicious}}: Heinlein obviously worked a lot of themes into the novel, but he didn't try to be subtle about his opinions. Be completely self-reliant! Coddling people makes them weak! Don't be a bigot! DesignatedHero: Hugh Farnham's got a lot of failings for a Heinlein hero. He indulges his wife's alcoholism, implies that he should have beat his son more to prevent him from growing into a StrawLiberal, engages in now-or-never, last-day-of-our-life intercourse with his daughter's best friend, threatens to boot his mouthy son out into fatal levels of hard radiation (claiming that 'the captain of a lifeboat is an absolute ruler'), and yet the one area he feels he's been "unjust" about is his treatment of the family's servant, Joe. In the final part of the book ''he'' is the helpless victim being pushed around, and then suddenly rebellion against the man giving orders is OK.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Heinlein obviously worked a lot of themes into the novel, but he didn't try to be subtle about his opinions. Be completely self-reliant! Coddling people makes them weak! Don't be a bigot! * DesignatedHero: Hugh Farnham's got a lot of failings for a Heinlein hero. He indulges his wife's alcoholism, implies that he should have beat his son more to prevent him from growing into a StrawLiberal, engages in now-or-never, last-day-of-our-life intercourse has a last-night-of-our-lives affair with his daughter's best friend, threatens to boot his mouthy son out into fatal levels of hard radiation (claiming that 'the captain of a lifeboat is an absolute ruler'), and yet the one area he feels he's been "unjust" about is his treatment of the family's servant, Joe. In the final part of the book ''he'' is the helpless victim being pushed around, and then suddenly rebellion against the man giving orders is OK.
7th Feb '15 12:49:40 PM LBHills
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{{Anvilicious}}: Heinlein obviously worked a lot of themes into the novel, but he didn't try to be subtle about his opinions. Be completely self-reliant! Coddling people makes them weak! Don't be a bigot! DesignatedHero: Hugh Farnham's got a lot of failings for a Heinlein hero. He indulges his wife's alcoholism, implies that he should have beat his son more to prevent him from growing into a StrawLiberal, engages in now-or-never, last-day-of-our-life intercourse with his daughter's best friend, threatens to boot his mouthy son out into fatal levels of hard radiation (claiming that 'the captain of a lifeboat is an absolute ruler'), and yet the one area he feels he's been "unjust" about is his treatment of the family's servant, Joe. In the final part of the book ''he'' is the helpless victim being pushed around, and then suddenly rebellion against the man giving orders is OK.
24th Nov '14 2:55:19 PM MagBas
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unfortunate implications need citations
* CluelessAesop[=/=]UnfortunateImplications: Heinlein was trying for an anti-racist Aesop, but the characterization of the black oppressors lines up remarkably well with contemporary racist stereotypes, and the PersecutionFlip can easily be read as leading to the moral "Don't let black people get any power, because they'll use it to do to us white people what we did to them, only worse!"
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* CluelessAesop[=/=]UnfortunateImplications: Heinlein was trying for an anti-racist Aesop, but the characterization of the black oppressors lines up remarkably well with contemporary racist stereotypes, and the PersecutionFlip can easily be read as leading to the moral "Don't let black people get any power, because they'll use it to do to us white people what we did to them, only worse!"
22nd Apr '13 9:04:04 AM TheRedRedKroovy
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* Clueless Aesop: Heinlein was trying for an anti-racist Aesop, but... ** Unfortunate Implications: The characterization of black oppressors line up remarkably well with contemporary racist stereotypes, and the PersecutionFlip can easily be read as leading to the moral "Don't let black people get any power, because they'll use it to do to us white people what we did to them, only worse!"
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* Clueless Aesop: CluelessAesop[=/=]UnfortunateImplications: Heinlein was trying for an anti-racist Aesop, but... ** Unfortunate Implications: The but the characterization of the black oppressors line lines up remarkably well with contemporary racist stereotypes, and the PersecutionFlip can easily be read as leading to the moral "Don't let black people get any power, because they'll use it to do to us white people what we did to them, only worse!"worse!" ----
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