History YMMV / FamilyGuyS8E18QuagmiresDad

12th Oct '17 12:50:10 PM tetsuzan
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As pointed out by
[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co7OL5T3XEw Jem]] Ida is this. The episode was meant to be a sympathetic portrayal of the transgendered yet despite the fact that Ida had the advantage of thinking about this for years she never thought about how it would affect her son. She never told her son who idolizes her about her intentions to become a woman. She gave him no time to adjust, yet she scolded him for not taking it well right off the bat while ignoring the fact that Peter and Lois were openly mocking her. And then she reveals that she didnít even consider how heíd take it to begin with.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As pointed out by
by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co7OL5T3XEw Jem]] Ida is this. The episode was meant to be a sympathetic portrayal of the transgendered yet despite the fact that Ida had the advantage of thinking about this for years she never thought about how it would affect her son. She never told her son who idolizes her about her intentions to become a woman. She gave him no time to adjust, yet she scolded him for not taking it well right off the bat while ignoring the fact that Peter and Lois were openly mocking her. And then she reveals that she didnít even consider how heíd take it to begin with.
12th Oct '17 12:49:45 PM tetsuzan
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** Quagmire is presented as the bad guy for not being able to handle Idaís decision when in actuality heís the only relatable character in the entire episode. How can you blame him for not accepting this change when everything heís ever known has changed over night? In fact the episode just uses his reactions to invoke CringeComedy. The only reason he isnít UnintentionallySympathetic is his NoHoldsBarredBeatdown on Brian for sleeping with his dad.
* ShowDontTell: The episode has a big problem with this as the audience never actually sees Idaís struggles or what she had to go through before deciding something as big as a sex change. She says she was unhappy but by the way the episode just shoves it at you. You donít actually see it and therefore you canít sympathize with her because you canít grasp how she feels
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: As pointed out by
[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co7OL5T3XEw Jem]] Ida is this. The episode was meant to be a sympathetic portrayal of the transgendered yet despite the fact that Ida had the advantage of thinking about this for years she never thought about how it would affect her son. She never told her son who idolizes her about her intentions to become a woman. She gave him no time to adjust, yet she scolded him for not taking it well right off the bat while ignoring the fact that Peter and Lois were openly mocking her. And then she reveals that she didnít even consider how heíd take it to begin with.
17th Apr '17 10:21:19 AM Buck
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* BrokenBase: Did the episode handle transsexuality well or was this yet another failure at trying to satirize alternative sexualities, as seen on "Family Gay" (to compare, ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' episode "Terry Unmarried" was commended for handling bisexuality well. Maybe the answer to this question is "This episode failed at handling transsexuality well, but not because the writers are transphobic, but probably because they didn't know a lot about it or [[ExecutiveMeddling FOX told them to tone down a lot of stuff that would have made the episode more believable and less offensive]]). Another alternate idea could be that the episode wasn't from the viewpoint of a transsexual, it's about someone being told that their friend or loved one is transsexual and awaiting surgery for their transition. The episode was more about Quagmire dealing with the fact that his dad was actually transsexual and how he tries to come to terms with this revelation despite his questions and discomfort, because his views of his father was completely changed in a few minutes despite knowing him for far longer.

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* BrokenBase: Did the episode handle transsexuality well or was this yet another failure at trying to satirize alternative sexualities, as seen on "Family Gay" (to compare, ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' episode "Terry Unmarried" was commended for handling bisexuality well. Maybe the answer to this question is "This episode failed at handling transsexuality well, but not because the writers are transphobic, but probably because they didn't know a lot about it or [[ExecutiveMeddling FOX told them to tone down a lot of stuff that would have made the episode more believable and less offensive]]). Another alternate idea could be that the episode wasn't from the viewpoint of a transsexual, it's about someone being told that their friend or loved one is transsexual and awaiting surgery for their transition. The episode was more about Quagmire dealing with the fact that his dad was actually transsexual and how he tries to come to terms with this revelation despite his questions and discomfort, because his views of his father was were completely changed in a few minutes despite knowing him for far longer.
17th Apr '17 10:20:31 AM Buck
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* BrokenBase: Did the episode handle transsexuality well or was this yet another failure at trying to satirize alternative sexualities, as seen on "Family Gay" (to compare, ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' episode "Terry Unmarried" was commended for handling bisexuality well. Maybe the answer to this question is "This episode failed at handling transsexuality well, but not because the writers are transphobic, but probably because they didn't know a lot about it or [[ExecutiveMeddling FOX told them to tone down a lot of stuff that would have made the episode more believable and less offensive]]).

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* BrokenBase: Did the episode handle transsexuality well or was this yet another failure at trying to satirize alternative sexualities, as seen on "Family Gay" (to compare, ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' episode "Terry Unmarried" was commended for handling bisexuality well. Maybe the answer to this question is "This episode failed at handling transsexuality well, but not because the writers are transphobic, but probably because they didn't know a lot about it or [[ExecutiveMeddling FOX told them to tone down a lot of stuff that would have made the episode more believable and less offensive]]). Another alternate idea could be that the episode wasn't from the viewpoint of a transsexual, it's about someone being told that their friend or loved one is transsexual and awaiting surgery for their transition. The episode was more about Quagmire dealing with the fact that his dad was actually transsexual and how he tries to come to terms with this revelation despite his questions and discomfort, because his views of his father was completely changed in a few minutes despite knowing him for far longer.
10th Apr '17 6:05:16 PM nombretomado
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** It really doesn't help that SethMacFarlane was boasting that this episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgender character in television history," only to be the umtillionth work of fiction to feature [[UnsettlingGenderReveal a character projectile vomiting after finding out that the person they found sexy was trans]].

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** It really doesn't help that SethMacFarlane Creator/SethMacFarlane was boasting that this episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgender character in television history," only to be the umtillionth work of fiction to feature [[UnsettlingGenderReveal a character projectile vomiting after finding out that the person they found sexy was trans]].



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sorry, SethMacFarlane, but this is far from the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgendered character on television.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sorry, SethMacFarlane, Creator/SethMacFarlane, but this is far from the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgendered character on television.
13th Mar '17 2:54:44 PM trixus
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** Did Brian deserve to be beaten up by Quagmire? Yes, it's yet another example of Quagmire's hate for Brian (and very satisfying for people who hate Brian), but Brian didn't know anything about Quagmire's dad getting a sex change. So really, only those who really do hate Brian will see it as something he deserved.

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** Did Brian deserve to be beaten up by Quagmire? Yes, it's yet another example of Quagmire's hate for Brian (and very satisfying for people who hate Brian), but Brian didn't know anything about Quagmire's dad getting a sex change. So really, only those who really do hate Brian will see it as something he deserved.deserved (although he did pin the tab on Quagmire's dad's room and really was just gonna do a one night stand but that's still disproportionate).
5th Aug '16 9:01:43 AM Murvine_Taylor
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** It really doesn't help that Seth MacFarlane was boasting that this episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgender character in television history," only to be the umtillionth work of fiction to feature [[UnsettlingGenderReveal a character projectile vomiting after finding out that the person they found sexy was trans]].

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** It really doesn't help that Seth MacFarlane SethMacFarlane was boasting that this episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgender character in television history," only to be the umtillionth work of fiction to feature [[UnsettlingGenderReveal a character projectile vomiting after finding out that the person they found sexy was trans]].



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sorry, Seth MacFarlane, but this is far from the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgendered character on television.

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*JerkassWoobie: Sure Brian can be a jerk at times, but in this episode, it is hard not to feel bad for the canine when Quagmire beats the living crap out of him.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sorry, Seth MacFarlane, SethMacFarlane, but this is far from the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgendered character on television.
10th Nov '15 7:07:56 AM Anddrix
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* DudeNotFunny: See BrokenBase above
8th Apr '15 5:24:47 PM NWolfman
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* DudeNotFunny: See BrokenBase above

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* DudeNotFunny: See BrokenBase aboveabove
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Sorry, Seth MacFarlane, but this is far from the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgendered character on television.
3rd Apr '15 7:47:23 AM NWolfman
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** It really doesn't help that Seth MacFarlane was boasting that this episode would be "the most sympathetic portrayal of a transgender character in television history," only to be the umtillionth work of fiction to feature [[UnsettlingGenderReveal a character projectile vomiting after finding out that the person they found sexy was trans]].



* DudeNotFunny: See BrokenBase above

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* DudeNotFunny: See BrokenBase above
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