History YMMV / EnchantedForestChronicles

29th Sep '15 4:52:09 PM 9_miho
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** The trope is played with in that while Cimorene goes on adventures and uses a sword, she also is fine with doing traditionally feminine things like cooking, cleaning, and dressing up. The first book also subverts this with Alinora, who ''tries'' to be a proper princess but fails miserably in various ways. She still is Cimorene's best friend.

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** The trope is played with in that while Cimorene goes on adventures and uses a sword, she also is fine with doing traditionally feminine things like cooking, cleaning, and dressing up. up (see: her absolute pleasure at discovering her wardrobe at Kazul's is magical and can provide practical work dresses and luxurious gowns as needed). The first book also subverts this with Alinora, Alianora, who ''tries'' to be a proper princess but fails miserably in various ways. ways (and it's mostly not her fault - aside from the spinning straw into linen thread thing). She still is Cimorene's best friend.friend.
** Also, see Morwen, who wears robes (close enough to dresses), makes cider, bakes gingerbread, and gardens deadly nightshade, apples, and lilies. She's also a very powerful practical witch and magic user.



* WhatAnIdiot: It becomes clear rather quickly that Anteroll isn't very bright. In ''Dealing With Dragons'', he accidentally lets it slip that a security spell his father proposed for Kazul's lair was very easy to do (judging by Zemenar's reaction, Cimorene guessed that he was planning to pretend it was difficult, as an excuse to snoop around). In ''Searching For Dragons'', he comes to visit Cimorene in, what she points out, is a very suspicious manner (he comes blundering in the back way without announcing himself or bringing a candle). In ''Calling On Dragons'', he is captured by one of Morwen's ''cats'' (he was shrunk at the time granted, but still), and is referred to by Telemaine as "the wizard Cimorene keeps melting". The epilogue has Cimorene tell how he was so determined to get revenge on her that when he found her hiding place, he walked right past Mendabar's magic sword and Cimorene's child and tripped over Kazul's tail before he was melted. In ''Talking To Dragons'', he completely loses any intelligence he has, being melted by Cimorene in the ''first chapter'' just after boasting that he will kill her and take the sword and Daystar. From there, he continues to ineffectually stalk Daystar until he [[spoiler:is finally gotten rid of when he decides to sic a monster on Cimorene...right after her son just learned how to effectively wield the sword that ''channeled all magic in the forest''.]]
** Arona Vamist from ''Calling on Dragons'' counts in a ''big'' way. He basically decides for no reason to act as a weird variation of a MoralGuardian, trying to force people to conform to the "traditional" ways for things - forcing witches to have one black cat, driving an angry group of Fire Witches out of town, etc. It's later revealed that [[spoiler:he did have some protection from the wizards]], but that doesn't explain why, when [[spoiler:he lost said protection]], he thought it was a good idea to contradict Kazul of all people on the behavior of dragons. He also tried to take the moral high ground against the protagonists "kidnapping" him, even though [[spoiler:he was an accomplice to the wizards stealing Mendabar's sword, which also meant he was an accomplice to their plan of invading the Enchanted Forest.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: It becomes clear rather quickly that Anteroll isn't very bright. In ''Dealing With Dragons'', he accidentally lets it slip that a security spell his father proposed for Kazul's lair was very easy to do (judging by Zemenar's reaction, Cimorene guessed that he was planning to pretend it was difficult, as an excuse to snoop around). In ''Searching For Dragons'', he comes to visit Cimorene in, what she points out, is a very suspicious manner (he comes blundering in the back way without announcing himself or bringing a candle). In ''Calling On Dragons'', he is captured by one of Morwen's ''cats'' (he was shrunk at the time granted, but still), and is referred to by Telemaine Telemain as "the wizard Cimorene keeps melting". The epilogue has Cimorene tell how he was so determined to get revenge on her that when he found her hiding place, he walked right past Mendabar's magic sword and Cimorene's child and tripped over Kazul's tail before he was melted. In ''Talking To Dragons'', he completely loses any intelligence he has, being melted by Cimorene in the ''first chapter'' just after boasting that he will kill her and take the sword and Daystar. From there, he continues to ineffectually stalk Daystar until he [[spoiler:is finally gotten rid of when he decides to sic a monster on Cimorene...right after her son just learned how to effectively wield the sword that ''channeled all magic in the forest''.]]
** Arona Vamist from ''Calling on Dragons'' counts in a ''big'' way. He basically decides for no reason to act as a weird variation of a MoralGuardian, trying to force people to conform to the "traditional" ways for things - forcing witches to have one black cat, driving an angry group of Fire Witches out of town, etc. It's later revealed that [[spoiler:he did have some protection from the wizards]], but that doesn't explain why, when [[spoiler:he lost said protection]], he thought it was a good idea to contradict Kazul of all people on the behavior of dragons. He also tried to take the moral high ground against the protagonists "kidnapping" him, even though [[spoiler:he was an accomplice to the wizards stealing Mendabar's Mendanbar's sword, which also meant he was an accomplice to their plan of invading the Enchanted Forest.]]
23rd Nov '14 2:00:44 PM ZeldaQueen
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* WhatAnIdiot: It becomes clear rather quickly that Anteroll isn't very bright. In ''Dealing With Dragons'', he accidentally lets it slip that a security spell his father proposed for Kazul's lair was very easy to do (judging by Zemenar's reaction, Cimorene guessed that he was planning to pretend it was difficult, as an excuse to snoop around). In ''Searching For Dragons'', he comes to visit Cimorene in, what she points out, is a very suspicious manner (he comes blundering in the back way without announcing himself or bringing a candle). In ''Calling On Dragons'', he is captured by one of Morwen's ''cats'' (he was shrunk at the time granted, but still), and is referred to by Telemaine as "the wizard Cimorene keeps melting". The epilogue has Cimorene tell how he was so determined to get revenge on her that when he found her hiding place, he walked right past Mendabar's magic sword and Cimorene's child and tripped over Kazul's tail before he was melted. In ''Talking To Dragons'', he completely loses any intelligence he has, being melted by Cimorene in the ''first chapter'' just after boasting that he will kill her and take the sword and Daystar. From there, he continues to ineffectually stalk Daystar until he [[spoiler:is finally gotten rid of when he decides to sic a monster on Cimorene...right after her son just learned how to effectively wield the sword that ''channeled all magic in the forest''.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: It becomes clear rather quickly that Anteroll isn't very bright. In ''Dealing With Dragons'', he accidentally lets it slip that a security spell his father proposed for Kazul's lair was very easy to do (judging by Zemenar's reaction, Cimorene guessed that he was planning to pretend it was difficult, as an excuse to snoop around). In ''Searching For Dragons'', he comes to visit Cimorene in, what she points out, is a very suspicious manner (he comes blundering in the back way without announcing himself or bringing a candle). In ''Calling On Dragons'', he is captured by one of Morwen's ''cats'' (he was shrunk at the time granted, but still), and is referred to by Telemaine as "the wizard Cimorene keeps melting". The epilogue has Cimorene tell how he was so determined to get revenge on her that when he found her hiding place, he walked right past Mendabar's magic sword and Cimorene's child and tripped over Kazul's tail before he was melted. In ''Talking To Dragons'', he completely loses any intelligence he has, being melted by Cimorene in the ''first chapter'' just after boasting that he will kill her and take the sword and Daystar. From there, he continues to ineffectually stalk Daystar until he [[spoiler:is finally gotten rid of when he decides to sic a monster on Cimorene...right after her son just learned how to effectively wield the sword that ''channeled all magic in the forest''.]]
** Arona Vamist from ''Calling on Dragons'' counts in a ''big'' way. He basically decides for no reason to act as a weird variation of a MoralGuardian, trying to force people to conform to the "traditional" ways for things - forcing witches to have one black cat, driving an angry group of Fire Witches out of town, etc. It's later revealed that [[spoiler:he did have some protection from the wizards]], but that doesn't explain why, when [[spoiler:he lost said protection]], he thought it was a good idea to contradict Kazul of all people on the behavior of dragons. He also tried to take the moral high ground against the protagonists "kidnapping" him, even though [[spoiler:he was an accomplice to the wizards stealing Mendabar's sword, which also meant he was an accomplice to their plan of invading the Enchanted Forest.
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23rd Nov '14 7:48:40 AM ZeldaQueen
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** The trope is played with in that while Cimorene goes on adventures and uses a sword, she also is fine with doing traditionally feminine things like cooking, cleaning, and dressing up. The first book also subverts this with Alinora, who ''tries'' to be a proper princess but fails miserably in various ways. She still is Cimorene's best friend.
26th Aug '14 5:58:14 PM snowviolet
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* RealWomenDontWearDressed: In-universe, the princesses who aren't like Cimorene (meaning most) are often seen as stupid and useless for embracing their PrincessClassic/DamselInDistress heritage and being happy with being rescued and married. Cimorene herself, however, admits they are silly but can't really help it, considering that's just how they were brought up.

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* RealWomenDontWearDressed: RealWomenDontWearDresses: In-universe, the princesses who aren't like Cimorene (meaning most) are often seen as stupid and useless for embracing their PrincessClassic/DamselInDistress heritage and being happy with being rescued and married. Cimorene herself, however, admits they are silly but can't really help it, considering that's just how they were brought up.
26th Aug '14 5:58:06 PM snowviolet
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* RealWomenDontWearDressed: In-universe, the princesses who aren't like Cimorene (meaning most) are often seen as stupid and useless for embracing their PrincessClassic/DamselInDistress heritage and being happy with being rescued and married. Cimorene herself, however, admits they are silly but can't really help it, considering that's just how they were brought up.
11th Sep '13 6:47:51 AM JoieDeCombat
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* WhatAnIdiot: Cimorene's reaction to the Stone Prince. He's a walking, talking statue because he was on a quest to get some water from a magic well with two dippers; anyone who ignores the warnings and uses the fancy-looking gold dippers gets well and proper stoned, so he decided not to do that. But it was so pretty he figured it couldn't hurt just to take a look at it. Oops-yes it could.
** To be fair to the prince, he saved himself from full statuedom with some quick thinking, and was one of the smarter characters in that particular book.
** It becomes clear rather quickly that Anteroll isn't very bright. In ''Dealing With Dragons'', he accidentally lets it slip that a security spell his father proposed for Kazul's lair was very easy to do (judging by Zemenar's reaction, Cimorene guessed that he was planning to pretend it was difficult, as an excuse to snoop around). In ''Searching For Dragons'', he comes to visit Cimorene in, what she points out, is a very suspicious manner (he comes blundering in the back way without announcing himself or bringing a candle). In ''Calling On Dragons'', he is captured by one of Morwen's ''cats'' (he was shrunk at the time granted, but still), and is referred to by Telemaine as "the wizard Cimorene keeps melting". The epilogue has Cimorene tell how he was so determined to get revenge on her that when he found her hiding place, he walked right past Mendabar's magic sword and Cimorene's child and tripped over Kazul's tail before he was melted. In ''Talking To Dragons'', he completely loses any intelligence he has, being melted by Cimorene in the ''first chapter'' just after boasting that he will kill her and take the sword and Daystar. From there, he continues to ineffectually stalk Daystar until he [[spoiler:is finally gotten rid of when he decides to sic a monster on Cimorene...right after her son just learned how to effectively wield the sword that ''channeled all magic in the forest''.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: Cimorene's reaction to the Stone Prince. He's a walking, talking statue because he was on a quest to get some water from a magic well with two dippers; anyone who ignores the warnings and uses the fancy-looking gold dippers gets well and proper stoned, so he decided not to do that. But it was so pretty he figured it couldn't hurt just to take a look at it. Oops-yes it could.
** To be fair to the prince, he saved himself from full statuedom with some quick thinking, and was one of the smarter characters in that particular book.
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WhatAnIdiot: It becomes clear rather quickly that Anteroll isn't very bright. In ''Dealing With Dragons'', he accidentally lets it slip that a security spell his father proposed for Kazul's lair was very easy to do (judging by Zemenar's reaction, Cimorene guessed that he was planning to pretend it was difficult, as an excuse to snoop around). In ''Searching For Dragons'', he comes to visit Cimorene in, what she points out, is a very suspicious manner (he comes blundering in the back way without announcing himself or bringing a candle). In ''Calling On Dragons'', he is captured by one of Morwen's ''cats'' (he was shrunk at the time granted, but still), and is referred to by Telemaine as "the wizard Cimorene keeps melting". The epilogue has Cimorene tell how he was so determined to get revenge on her that when he found her hiding place, he walked right past Mendabar's magic sword and Cimorene's child and tripped over Kazul's tail before he was melted. In ''Talking To Dragons'', he completely loses any intelligence he has, being melted by Cimorene in the ''first chapter'' just after boasting that he will kill her and take the sword and Daystar. From there, he continues to ineffectually stalk Daystar until he [[spoiler:is finally gotten rid of when he decides to sic a monster on Cimorene...right after her son just learned how to effectively wield the sword that ''channeled all magic in the forest''.]]
18th Oct '11 8:57:45 PM ZeldaQueen
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** To be fair to the prince, he saved himself from full statuedom with some quick thinking, and was one of the smarter characters in that particular book.

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** To be fair to the prince, he saved himself from full statuedom with some quick thinking, and was one of the smarter characters in that particular book.book.
** It becomes clear rather quickly that Anteroll isn't very bright. In ''Dealing With Dragons'', he accidentally lets it slip that a security spell his father proposed for Kazul's lair was very easy to do (judging by Zemenar's reaction, Cimorene guessed that he was planning to pretend it was difficult, as an excuse to snoop around). In ''Searching For Dragons'', he comes to visit Cimorene in, what she points out, is a very suspicious manner (he comes blundering in the back way without announcing himself or bringing a candle). In ''Calling On Dragons'', he is captured by one of Morwen's ''cats'' (he was shrunk at the time granted, but still), and is referred to by Telemaine as "the wizard Cimorene keeps melting". The epilogue has Cimorene tell how he was so determined to get revenge on her that when he found her hiding place, he walked right past Mendabar's magic sword and Cimorene's child and tripped over Kazul's tail before he was melted. In ''Talking To Dragons'', he completely loses any intelligence he has, being melted by Cimorene in the ''first chapter'' just after boasting that he will kill her and take the sword and Daystar. From there, he continues to ineffectually stalk Daystar until he [[spoiler:is finally gotten rid of when he decides to sic a monster on Cimorene...right after her son just learned how to effectively wield the sword that ''channeled all magic in the forest''.]]
6th Sep '11 12:28:10 AM TheShadow
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* {{Squick}}: The wizard disposal method, amongst other things.

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* {{Squick}}: The wizard disposal method, amongst other things.things.
* WhatAnIdiot: Cimorene's reaction to the Stone Prince. He's a walking, talking statue because he was on a quest to get some water from a magic well with two dippers; anyone who ignores the warnings and uses the fancy-looking gold dippers gets well and proper stoned, so he decided not to do that. But it was so pretty he figured it couldn't hurt just to take a look at it. Oops-yes it could.
** To be fair to the prince, he saved himself from full statuedom with some quick thinking, and was one of the smarter characters in that particular book.
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