History YMMV / ElHazardTheMagnificentWorld

10th Nov '15 6:44:32 AM Anddrix
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** LesYay: The lesbianism in ''El Hazard'' is pretty straightforward, between Alielle and Fatora's relationship, and their repeat attempts to seduce Shayla and the others. While it's ''intended'' purposes are comedy and {{fanservice}}, it's no surpise that some viewers [[DudeNotFunny fail to see the humor.]]
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** LesYay: The lesbianism in ''El Hazard'' is pretty straightforward, between Alielle and Fatora's relationship, and their repeat attempts to seduce Shayla and the others. While it's ''intended'' purposes are comedy and {{fanservice}}, it's no surpise that some viewers [[DudeNotFunny fail to see the humor.]]
23rd Jun '15 9:05:11 AM MiinU
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** In the first OVA, at one point Alielle was sitting next to Nanami and made a pass at her by quoting Billy Preston. But the clincher to that was Nanami completing the quote, sounding rather thoughtful as she did so. -->'''Alielle:''' If you can't be with the one you love... -->'''Nanami:''' ...love the one you're with.
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** In the first OVA, at one point Alielle was sitting next to Nanami and made a pass at her by quoting Billy Preston. But the clincher to that was Though Nanami completing realized Alliel was simply [[ReplacementGoldfish using her as a stand-in]] [[LustObject for Shayla.]] -->'''Nanami:''' "Hey now. I thought you had the quote, sounding rather thoughtful as she did so. hots for that Shayla Shayla." -->'''Alielle:''' "I do. But you know what they say: If you can't be with the one you love... -->'''Nanami:''' ...love..." -->'''Nanami:''' "Hn... love the one you're with."
23rd Jun '15 8:58:05 AM MiinU
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I deleted the Alternate Character Interpretation entry, since both Alliel and Princess Rune plainly said that Fatora *hadn't* changed. Meaning, she had always been that way.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Is OAV!Fatora naturally a complete SpoiledBrat, or were her already bad traits enhanced after whatever she went through as a DistressedDamsel? It could sorta explain the following... ** Both Alielle's statement that Fatora "hadn't changed" complete with Rune seeming to think nothing about her behavior seems to work against this interpretation.
14th Jun '15 1:42:23 PM Ramidel
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Non-notable aversion.
* IdiotPlot: A ''lot'' in ''El Hazard 2: The Magnificent World''. There are so many moments, you'd swear the cast was playing professional volleyball with the IdiotBall. A few examples: Fatora's inability to control her libido costing the gang their money and their airship, believing Katsuhiko's obvious lies despite Nanami's warnings ''(keep in mind that Nanami is his sister, and would know him better than everyone else)'', Makoto still trying to negotiate with the ObviouslyEvil Kalia despite her trying to kill him mere seconds ago, the Muldoon Priestesses combining their attacks into one projectile against a character who ''reflects'' projectiles, and so on.

** A ''lot'' in ''El Hazard 2: The Magnificent World''. There are so many moments, you'd swear the cast was playing professional volleyball with the IdiotBall. A few examples: Fatora's inability to control her libido costing the gang their money and their airship, believing Katsuhiko's obvious lies despite Nanami's warnings ''(keep in mind that Nanami is his sister, and would know him better than everyone else)'', Makoto still trying to negotiate with the ObviouslyEvil Kalia despite her trying to kill him mere seconds ago, the Muldoon Priestesses combining their attacks into one projectile against a character who ''reflects'' projectiles, and so on. *** Ifurita even averts this. When she realizes that her projectiles have no effect on Kalia, she [[TakeAThirdOption takes a third option]] and ''physically beats the crap out of her'' instead.
13th Feb '15 8:19:49 AM Ramidel
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*** The most notable instance occurs in the final episode of ''The Alternative World'', during the trip to Arlaman[[note]]the holy spring, which the Priestesses of Mt. Moldune visit for their annual purification ritual[[/note]], where they felt up Shayla, Nanami, and Afura while disguised as bath attendants. [[spoiler: Alielle, in particular, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale had Afura on all fours and appeared to be humping her.]]]] *** In the first episode of ''El Hazard 2'', Fatora makes a pass at Nanami while disguised as Makoto, but Nanami saw through it, thanks to Fatora giving herself away (twice[[note]]first by grabbing her breast, which Nanami noted Makoto wouldn't do, and because Fatora mispronouced "Shino-NO-me" as "Shino-GO-me"[[/note]]), and threatened to report her to Rune Venus if she ever tried it again. *** The following episode has her fool Shayla, by once again pretending to be Makoto[[note]]this time, after nightfall, so Shayla wouldn't be able to make the distinction between them[[/note]], in order to make out with her, thereby stealing her [[SacredFirstKiss first kiss.]] The truth dawns on her when the real Makoto shows up. [[PervertRevengeMode Shayla was justifiably pissed.]]
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*** ** The most notable instance occurs in the final episode of ''The Alternative World'', during the trip to Arlaman[[note]]the holy spring, which the Priestesses of Mt. Moldune visit for their annual purification ritual[[/note]], where they felt up Shayla, Nanami, and Afura while disguised as bath attendants. [[spoiler: Alielle, in particular, [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale had Afura on all fours and appeared to be humping her.]]]] *** ** In the first episode of ''El Hazard 2'', Fatora makes a pass at Nanami while disguised as Makoto, but Nanami saw through it, thanks to Fatora giving herself away (twice[[note]]first by grabbing her breast, which Nanami noted Makoto wouldn't do, and because Fatora mispronouced "Shino-NO-me" as "Shino-GO-me"[[/note]]), and threatened to report her to Rune Venus if she ever tried it again. *** ** The following episode has her fool Shayla, by once again pretending to be Makoto[[note]]this time, after nightfall, so Shayla wouldn't be able to make the distinction between them[[/note]], in order to make out with her, thereby stealing her [[SacredFirstKiss first kiss.]] The truth dawns on her when the real Makoto shows up. [[PervertRevengeMode Shayla was justifiably pissed.]]]] ** In the first OVA, at one point Alielle was sitting next to Nanami and made a pass at her by quoting Billy Preston. But the clincher to that was Nanami completing the quote, sounding rather thoughtful as she did so. -->'''Alielle:''' If you can't be with the one you love... -->'''Nanami:''' ...love the one you're with.
20th Nov '14 9:44:16 AM MagBas
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unfortunate implications need citations
* UnfortunateImplications: The {{Yuri}} couple of the series, Fatora and Alielle, carry on an open relationship and both have DepravedHomosexual tendencies towards several straight women, who completely abhor their advances. Neither take no for an answer though and aggressively pursue the other women whether they want it or not. ** Miz getting a marriage proposal out of Fujisawa under the influence of alcohol, throwing a humongous fit when he leaves her at the altar to "find himself" (which could have easily killed several innocent people) and the cast making him ''apologize'' for running away when they catch up with him. Nobody ever calls out Miz on this, and this would be a ''lot'' worse if the genders were switched. ** Given how the [[spoiler:Phantom Tribe behave throughout the first OVA]], and by comparing it to how Jews lived throughout centuries, [[spoiler:Phantom Tribe having a Star of David in the sixth episode of the first OVA]] is kind of a bad idea.
30th Aug '14 11:34:03 AM HallowHawk
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** Given how the [[spoiler:Phantom Tribe behave throughout the first OVA]], and by comparing it to how Jews lived throughout centuries, [[spoiler:Phantom Tribe having a Star of David in the sixth episode of the first OVA]] is kind of a bad idea.
23rd Jul '14 6:14:38 PM Austin
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Justifying edits.
** YMMV. Some may think they are too funny to be unintentionally sympathetic.

** Justified, considering she's an ApocalypseMaiden who was created through a combination of El Hazard's ancient technology and alchemy. She isn't a villain sue, [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil she's just uberpowered]] [[OvershadowedByAwesome compared to the rest of the cast.]]
30th Jun '14 6:45:20 AM Ramidel
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Example Indentation. Read it, love it.
* LoveToHate: Jinnai. ** Make no mistake, he's a [[SmugSnake smug]] [[JerkAss bastard]] but, if ever there was proof that [[TropesAreTools tropes aren't bad]], it's him. You'll be [[LaughablyEvil too busy laughing at the things he says and does]], and [[MagnificentBastard applauding]] when he [[BatmanGambit out gambits]] Makoto, all while waiting for him to get his [[LaserGuidedKarma just desserts.]] It's no wonder he's such a popular villain.
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* LoveToHate: Jinnai. ** Jinnai. Make no mistake, he's a [[SmugSnake smug]] [[JerkAss bastard]] but, if ever there was proof that [[TropesAreTools tropes aren't bad]], it's him. You'll be [[LaughablyEvil too busy laughing at the things he says and does]], and [[MagnificentBastard applauding]] when he [[BatmanGambit out gambits]] Makoto, all while waiting for him to get his [[LaserGuidedKarma just desserts.]] It's no wonder he's such a popular villain.
23rd Feb '14 4:24:46 PM RyRodrigo
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** Miz getting a marriage proposal out of Fujisawa under the influence of alcohol, throwing a humongous fit when he leaves her at the altar to "find himself" (which could have easily killed several innocent people) and the cast making him ''apologize'' for running away when they catch up with him. Nobody ever calls out Miz on this, and this would be a ''lot'' worse if the genders were switched.

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** A ''lot'' in ''El Hazard 2: The Magnificent World''. There are so many moments, you'd swear the cast was playing professional volleyball with the IdiotBall. A few examples: Fatora's inability to control her libido costing the gang their money and their airship, believing Katsuhiko's obvious lies despite Nanami's warnings ''(keep in mind that Nanami is his sister, and would know him better than everyone else)'', Makoto still trying to negotiate with the ObviouslyEvil Kalia despite her trying to kill him mere seconds ago, the Muldoon Priestesses combining their attacks into one projectile against a character who ''reflects'' projectiles, and so on. *** Ifurita even averts this. When she realizes that her projectiles have no effect on Kalia, she [[TakeAThirdOption takes a third option]] and ''physically beats the crap out of her'' instead.
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