History YMMV / ElGoonishShive

21st May '17 7:42:08 PM DarkMask
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* AssPull: At the end of the ''Painted Black'' arc, Damien is about to self-destruct to take out himself and Grace, when Nioi, an inter-dimensional sorceress barely even hinted at before, shows up and saves Grace with a BeehiveBarrier (for seemingly little reason). She then proceeds to fix Ellen's infant soul, and then disappears from the story, and hasn't been seen again since.

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* AssPull: At the end of the ''Painted Black'' "Painted Black" arc, Damien is about to self-destruct to take out himself and Grace, when Nioi, an inter-dimensional sorceress barely even hinted at before, shows up and saves Grace with a BeehiveBarrier (for seemingly little reason). She then proceeds to fix Ellen's infant soul, and then disappears from the story, and hasn't been seen again since.
21st May '17 7:41:18 PM DarkMask
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* AssPull: At the end of the ''Painted Black'' arc, Damien is about to self-destruct to take out himself and Grace, when Nioi, an inter-dimensional sorceress barely even hinted at before, shows up and saves Grace with a BeahiveBarrier (for seemingly little reason). She then proceeds to fix Ellen's infant soul, and then disappears from the story, and hasn't been seen again since.

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* AssPull: At the end of the ''Painted Black'' arc, Damien is about to self-destruct to take out himself and Grace, when Nioi, an inter-dimensional sorceress barely even hinted at before, shows up and saves Grace with a BeahiveBarrier BeehiveBarrier (for seemingly little reason). She then proceeds to fix Ellen's infant soul, and then disappears from the story, and hasn't been seen again since.
21st May '17 7:40:59 PM DarkMask
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* AssPull: At the end of the ''Painted Black'' arc, Damien is about to self-destruct to take out himself and Grace, when Nioi, an inter-dimensional sorceress barely even hinted at before, shows up and saves Grace with a BeahiveBarrier (for seemingly little reason). She then proceeds to fix Ellen's infant soul, and then disappears from the story, and hasn't been seen again since.
19th May '17 11:58:00 PM Qube
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** NarmCharm: Though with the revelation that "Raven" was her human husband's last name, it's either heartwarming or saddening that, despite the man himself having died several centuries ago, she still identifies her self as his wife.
12th Mar '17 10:26:56 PM DarkMask
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** "Escape From the Mall", the EGS:NP storyline revolving around a date between Catalina and Rhoda, went on for so long that even the author himself expressed relief when it was finally over.
3rd Mar '17 7:21:30 PM DarkMask
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*** Ironically, Felix and Kitty were only just introduced during Rhoda and Catalina's date arc, but have proved popular with the fans. Dan has even gone on record that a lot of people are actually ''asking'' to see more of them, but is putting that idea on the back-burner since the Rhoda and Catalina date (and the story before it) have gone on for so long he wants to give something else attention, that and he would prefer to give himself some time to figure out what to do with Felix and Kitty before attempting to right a story revolved around them right off the bat.
22nd Feb '17 7:39:43 AM Patcher
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** Elliot tends to be confused about things a lot, like in [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1543 the first review he did with Susan]], when he talks about being told to yell "a betrayal!" as an allusion to "[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment something about a spoon]]". ''[[ObfuscatingStupidity Except]]'' that, if you pay attention, [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1539 one of the internet critics that Sarah was talking about when they were picking videos for the two to watch]] ''was'' the Spoony ... and [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1532 he's played dumb before.]]

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** Elliot tends to be confused about things a lot, like in [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1543 the first review he did with Susan]], when he talks about being told to yell "a betrayal!" as an allusion to "[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment something about a spoon]]". ''[[ObfuscatingStupidity Except]]'' that, if you pay attention, [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1539 one of the internet critics that Sarah was talking about when they were picking videos vidseos for the two to watch]] ''was'' the Spoony ... and [[http://www.egscomics.com/index.php?id=1532 he's played dumb before.]]



** "Family Tree" initially seems to be full of typical, if mind-altering, GenderBender fun. Then [[LovableAlphaBitch Diana]] come back to grab a slice of pizza. Things quickly descend into horror fuel as we watch her slowly realize something's wrong. And by something wrong, we mean the terror in eyes as she tries to get her sister to remember that no, everyone is not a girl and please stop worshipping her and calling her "lord". Really, this is possibly the comic's darkest, most terrifying arc yet. The whole thing reads like a Lovecraftian SurvivalHorror. [[spoiler:Then [[EldritchAbomination Tengu]] [[FromBadToWorse shows up]].]] For extra [[LossOfIdentity horror]]: [[spoiler: Regardless of whatever gender the guests originally were, they're all gradually turning into clones of Nanase. Tengu is ''thorough'' in his attempt at identity murder]].

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** "Family Tree" initially seems to be full of typical, if mind-altering, GenderBender fun. Then [[LovableAlphaBitch Diana]] Diane]] come back to grab a slice of pizza. Things quickly descend into horror fuel as we watch her slowly realize something's wrong. And by something wrong, we mean the terror in eyes as she tries to get her sister to remember that no, everyone is not a girl and please stop worshipping her and calling her "lord". Really, this is possibly the comic's darkest, most terrifying arc yet. The whole thing reads like a Lovecraftian SurvivalHorror. [[spoiler:Then [[EldritchAbomination Tengu]] [[FromBadToWorse shows up]].]] For extra [[LossOfIdentity horror]]: [[spoiler: Regardless of whatever gender the guests originally were, they're all gradually turning into clones of Nanase. Tengu is ''thorough'' in his attempt at identity murder]].



* OlderThanTheyThink: Some fans are uncomfortable with how close Elliot and Ashley are on the first date, up to sharing a dressing room in the mall and then making out. Thing is, this isn't all that different from when Elliot was dating Nanase way back when the comic started, the two having a very physical relationship and even having a regular tradition of making out after sparing matches. Many fans may have just forgotten this due to the fact soon after Elliot started dating Sarah, with the two having a generally non-sexual relationship (due to them realizing afterwards they shared a much more platonic/brother-sister kind of love as opposed to a romantic attraction) and the fact that Elliot is later characterized as being uncomfortable fantasizing about women. His relationship with Ashley is more of a CharacterCheck to how he originally was than an OutOfCharacterMoment.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Some fans are uncomfortable with how close Elliot and Ashley are on the first date, up to sharing a dressing room in the mall and then making out. Thing is, this isn't all that different from when Elliot was dating Nanase way back when the comic started, the two having a very physical relationship and even having a regular tradition of making out after sparing sparring matches. Many fans may have just forgotten this due to the fact soon after Elliot started dating Sarah, with the two having a generally non-sexual relationship (due to them realizing afterwards they shared a much more platonic/brother-sister kind of love as opposed to a romantic attraction) and the fact that Elliot is later characterized as being uncomfortable fantasizing about women. His relationship with Ashley is more of a CharacterCheck to how he originally was than an OutOfCharacterMoment.
17th Feb '17 12:33:12 AM DarkMask
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Ashley. Some like her for being a good match for Elliot and a generally decent person, including towards her own seeming romantic rival. Others feel Dan is trying a little too hard to make her TheWoobie. This only got worse on Elliot and Ashley's first date, where the two seems a little ''too'' into each other very quickly, with some fans already accusing Dan of falling prey to the two being StrangledByTheRedString. There's also the fact that she seems a little too accepting of all the weirdness thrust upon her and far too respectful of everyone's privacy, not wanting to probe for information even when pressed for her desire to know more. Once it's revealed that she has such IncorruptiblePurePureness that not even Pandora can empower her in spite of her fetish for BalefulPolymorph, and it seems Ashley may be starting to hit PuritySue territories.

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Ashley. Some like her for being a good match for Elliot and a generally decent person, including towards her own seeming romantic rival. Others feel Dan is trying a little too hard to make her TheWoobie. This only got worse on Elliot and Ashley's first date, where the two seems a little ''too'' into each other very quickly, with some fans already accusing Dan of falling prey to the two being StrangledByTheRedString. There's also the fact that she seems a little too accepting of all the weirdness thrust upon her and far too respectful of everyone's privacy, not wanting to probe for information even when pressed for her desire to know more. Once it's revealed that she has such IncorruptiblePurePureness that not even Pandora can empower her in spite of her fetish for BalefulPolymorph, and it seems Ashley may be starting to hit PuritySue territories.
** Rhoda and Catalina. It isn't so much whether people find them likable or interesting, but whether or not they deserve the attention they have been receiving in the comic. Some don't mind the idea of them being upgraded to the main cast, while others think the main cast is already worn a bit thin and some characters (in particular, Justin) aren't getting the screentime they deserve. It doesn't help that they are now the second couple (after Elliot and Ashley) to get an arc and preempt Justin's date with Luke.
1st Feb '17 3:09:10 PM Wyldchyld
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* SnarkBait: There are a lot of people who seemingly read the comic in order to bash on the creator suffering from TheChrisCarterEffect and a massive KudzuPlot, as well as mock the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom and other FetishFuel that underpins a lot of what happens to the characters. Just read the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/reviews.php?target_group=Webcomic&target_title=ElGoonishShive reviews]] if you you fail to believe.

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* SnarkBait: There are a lot of people who seemingly read the comic in order to bash on the creator suffering from TheChrisCarterEffect and a massive KudzuPlot, as well as mock the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom and other FetishFuel fetishes that underpins a lot of what happens to the characters. Just read the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/reviews.php?target_group=Webcomic&target_title=ElGoonishShive reviews]] if you you fail to believe.
15th Jan '17 6:38:40 AM AustinDR
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** To describe how bad he is? Grace has a large, angsty thing...about how she didn't kill him FAST enough. Elliot, specifically imagines killing Damien when someone says he'd let his worst enemy live.
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