History YMMV / ElChavoDelOcho

2nd May '17 1:01:44 PM BatmanKalEl
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** All sad scenes involving El Chavo became much more bitter after the death of Chespirito.
** Some characters conflicts become real with the actors. Notable examples are La Chilindrina vs Doña Florinda (María Antonieta de las Nieves vs Florinda Meza) and for a long time El Chavo vs Quico (Chespirito vs Carlos Villagrán).

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* HarsherInHindsight:
** All sad scenes involving El Chavo became much more bitter after the death of Chespirito.
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HarsherInHindsight: Some characters conflicts become real with the actors. Notable examples are La Chilindrina vs Doña Florinda (María Antonieta de las Nieves vs Florinda Meza) and for a long time El Chavo vs Quico (Chespirito vs Carlos Villagrán).
1st Apr '17 10:16:49 AM mfarah
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** Don Ramón killing Donã Florinda's cat just for thinking it was eating his fishes (and La Chilindrina tried the same in the remake) and El Chavo accidentally killing Quico's cat just to avoid to crash into Professor in the streets (and showing no remorse or sadness for that). Considering the modern times pets (especially cats and dogs) became UnacceptableTargets (although in both of cases their actions are viewed as wrong during these episodes).

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** Don Ramón killing Donã Doña Florinda's cat just for thinking it was eating his fishes (and La Chilindrina tried the same in the remake) and El Chavo accidentally killing Quico's cat just to avoid to crash into Professor in the streets (and showing no remorse or sadness for that). Considering the modern times pets (especially cats and dogs) became UnacceptableTargets (although in both of cases their actions are viewed as wrong during these episodes).
1st Apr '17 10:15:35 AM mfarah
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** Gómez Bolaños never gave a pass to any of his cast members' physical traits. Some of the jokes he wrote would be considered mean-spirited in places like America, but still there are tons of references about Aguirre and Valdés's lanky frames, Fernandez's old age, Meza's lack of curves, Padilla and Villagran's droopy faces, de las Nieves' short height and Vivar's overweight. In all fairness, Gómez Bolaños [[TakeThatMe would also make fun of his own]] short height.

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** Gómez Bolaños never gave a pass to any of his cast members' physical traits. Some of the jokes he wrote would be considered mean-spirited in places like America, but still there are tons of references about Aguirre and Valdés's lanky frames, Fernandez's Fernández's old age, Meza's lack of curves, Padilla and Villagran's Villagrán's droopy faces, de las Nieves' short height and Vivar's overweight. In all fairness, Gómez Bolaños [[TakeThatMe would also make fun of his own]] short height.
15th Mar '17 6:04:10 PM mizorefan
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* ValuesDissonance: Almost de rigueur, considering how old the show is. Don Ramón's hitting Chavo as part of the running gag or it being implied many times that he spanked Chilindrina. Certain episodes have everyone getting extremely disgusted when a confusion leads them to think that [[HoYay Don Ramón and Jirafales]] [[MistakenForGay were in love with each other]]. And the show was set and videotaped in the Mexico from TheSeventies. Mexico is a ''very'' conservative society, even by Latin-American standards and it was even more back then.

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* ValuesDissonance: Almost de rigueur, considering how old the show is. is and the fact it was set and videotaped in the Mexico from TheSeventies. Mexico is a ''very'' conservative society, even by Latin-American standards and it was even more back then.
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Don Ramón's hitting El Chavo and pinching Quico as part of the running gag or it and being heavily implied many times that he spanked Chilindrina. And El Chavo using hard hitting stuff to hit Quico, like brooms and bricks.
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Certain episodes have everyone getting extremely disgusted when a confusion leads them to think that [[HoYay Don Ramón and Jirafales]] [[MistakenForGay were in love with each other]]. And other]].
** Don Ramón killing Donã Florinda's cat just for thinking it was eating his fishes (and La Chilindrina tried
the show was set and videotaped same in the Mexico from TheSeventies. Mexico is a ''very'' conservative society, even by Latin-American standards remake) and it was even more back then.El Chavo accidentally killing Quico's cat just to avoid to crash into Professor in the streets (and showing no remorse or sadness for that). Considering the modern times pets (especially cats and dogs) became UnacceptableTargets (although in both of cases their actions are viewed as wrong during these episodes).
** Professor Jirafales smoking in the classroom is another issue considering this is prohibited in many countries.
25th Dec '16 5:11:08 PM mizorefan
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* HarsherInHindsight: All sad scenes involving El Chavo become much more bitter after the death of Chespirito.

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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All sad scenes involving El Chavo become became much more bitter after the death of Chespirito.Chespirito.
** Some characters conflicts become real with the actors. Notable examples are La Chilindrina vs Doña Florinda (María Antonieta de las Nieves vs Florinda Meza) and for a long time El Chavo vs Quico (Chespirito vs Carlos Villagrán).
24th Dec '16 1:28:46 PM mizorefan
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* HarsherInHindsight: All sad scenes involving El Chavo become much more bitter after the death of Chespirito.
28th Nov '16 12:49:43 PM BatmanKalEl
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* AcceptableTargets: There were [[UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball football]] commentators and referees, which were the target of the odd TakeThat. Like in one episode where El Chavo and Quico are playing soccer, El Chavo allows Chilindrina to play with them as long as she plays the commentator. When Quico argues that Chilindrina knows nothing about soccer, Chavo simply replies with "Exactly!"

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* AcceptableTargets: AcceptableTargets:
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There were [[UsefulNotes/AssociationFootball football]] commentators and referees, which were the target of the odd TakeThat. Like in one episode where El Chavo and Quico are playing soccer, El Chavo allows Chilindrina to play with them as long as she plays the commentator. When Quico argues that Chilindrina knows nothing about soccer, Chavo simply replies with "Exactly!"
28th Nov '16 12:48:41 PM BatmanKalEl
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Don Ramón is a [[BornUnlucky unlucky man]] which is struggling in a unfair world or he is just a lazy jerk which is lucky to have a house to live(thanks for Señor Barriga) and has no job due his own errors? Maybe both!

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Don Ramón is a [[BornUnlucky unlucky man]] which is struggling in a unfair world or he is just a lazy jerk which is lucky to have a house to live(thanks for Señor Barriga) and has no job due his own errors? Maybe both!both?
12th Oct '16 9:02:31 AM ritzoreo
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** Gómez Bolaños never gave a pass to any of his cast members' physical traits. Some of the jokes he wrote would be considered mean-spirited in places like America, but still there are tons of references about Aguirre and Valdés's lanky frames, Fernandez's old age, Meza's lack of curves, Padilla and Villagran's droopy faces, de las Nieves' short height and Vivar's overweight. In all fairness, Gómez Bolaños [[TakeThatMe would also make fun of his own]] short height.



* TheScrappy: Doña Florinda for many fans. This is the result of her mean acts towards Don Ramón, like slapping him without reason. In RealLife, Florinda Meza, who played the Doña Florinda, is disliked by many fans too. Not only is she often perceived to be the least talented of the main cast, but her tabloid fights against [[EnsembleDarkhorse Carlos Villagrán and María Antonieta de las Nieves]] don't endear her to fans either (even if she's sometimes right). Some people say Florinda was the one who triggered the conflict between Bolaños and Villagrán which led to departure of Quico from the show and latter the departure of Ramón Valdéz. Cast member Rubén Aguirre confirmed this in his book saying Florinda influenced Bolaños in order to cause conflicts between the cast. Some of her subsequent acts only worsened this, like putting security around Bolaños' grave when not that many actually visit it.

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* TheScrappy: Doña Florinda for many fans. This is the result of her mean acts towards Don Ramón, like slapping him without reason. In RealLife, Florinda Meza, who played the Doña Florinda, is disliked by many fans too. Not only is she often perceived to be the least talented of the main cast, but her tabloid fights against [[EnsembleDarkhorse Carlos Villagrán and María Antonieta de las Nieves]] don't endear her to fans either (even if she's sometimes right). Some people say Florinda Meza was the one who triggered the conflict between Bolaños and Villagrán which led to departure of Quico from the show and latter the departure of Ramón Valdéz.Valdés. Cast member Rubén Aguirre confirmed this in his book saying Florinda influenced Bolaños in order to cause conflicts between the cast. Some of her subsequent acts only worsened this, like putting security around Bolaños' grave when not that many actually visit it.
29th Sep '16 3:58:20 PM MyFinalEdits
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* WereStillRelevantDammit:
** The famous football players referenced by the kids change as the show progresses. For most of the 1972-1977 run, El Chavo always wanted to play as Enrique Borja, while he was changed to Leonardo Cuéllar and Hugo Sánchez in the 1978 season. Similarly, in the animated adaptation, El Chavo and Quico wanted to play as Kikín Fonseca and Cuauhtémoc Blanco, among others.
** If an episode that includes a then-recent cultural reference got remade, said references were changed to more recent ones. For example, in the 1974 version of the second episode of the Gloria and Patty arc, Don Ramón invites Gloria to watch ''Film/{{Earthquake}}'', while in the 1978 version, he invites her to watch ''Film/CloseEncountersOfTheThirdKind''.
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