History YMMV / EfAFairyTaleOfTheTwo

17th May '15 2:59:14 PM DavidDelony
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* FirstInstallmentWins: While fans acknowledge that ''A Tale of Melodies'' is excellent, ''A Tale of Memories'' tends to get better reviews.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: While fans acknowledge that ''A Tale of Melodies'' is excellent, excellent (at least if they weren't squicked out by the MayDecemberRomance), ''A Tale of Memories'' tends to get better reviews.
22nd Nov '14 10:07:27 PM DavidDelony
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* HilariousInHindsight: Caught the scene in ''memories'' episode 9 where Miyako holds a [[VisualNovel/{{Clannad}} Big Dango Family]] phone card? Both Miyako and Nagisa would be voiced a few years later in English by Creator/LuciChristian. Both series were also license by Creator/SentaiFilmworks.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Caught the scene in ''memories'' episode 9 where Miyako holds a [[VisualNovel/{{Clannad}} Big Dango Family]] phone card? Both Miyako and Nagisa would be voiced a few years later in English by Creator/LuciChristian. Both series were also license licensed by Creator/SentaiFilmworks.
22nd Nov '14 10:07:14 PM DavidDelony
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* HilariousInHindsight: Caught the scene in ''memories'' episode 9 where Miyako holds a [[VisualNovel/{{Clannad}} Big Dango Family]] phone card? Both Miyako and Nagisa would be voiced a few years later in English by Creator/LuciChristian.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Caught the scene in ''memories'' episode 9 where Miyako holds a [[VisualNovel/{{Clannad}} Big Dango Family]] phone card? Both Miyako and Nagisa would be voiced a few years later in English by Creator/LuciChristian. Both series were also license by Creator/SentaiFilmworks.
27th Jun '14 6:25:16 PM MoonlightBomber
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* DieForOurShip: There is quite the hate towards Kei for getting in between Hiro and Miyako. Never mind that Kei eventually ends up with Kyousuke anyway.
15th May '14 11:47:39 PM MoonlightBomber
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* FridgeBrilliance: ''memories'': When Chihiro gets e-mails from her sister about Kei's own life, Kei writes about events that happen during the summer, when it's winter where Chihiro's side is. [[spoiler: Then comes TheReveal where you find that the Chihiro's side is living on a second Otowa. In Australia. Thus, the seasons are reversed.]]
** In ''melodies'', think back over the course of the entire game, and how each couple slowly got shoved towards figuring things out. Yuuko always brutally exposed the problems everyone had to force them to face up to things, but who gave them the crucial last-second encouragement? ''Mizuki.'' Considering their backstory, this only makes sense.
** What does "Ef" stand for? Apparently, there are plenty of songs that has "Ef" as initial, including in the Visual Novel. Eternal Feather. Emotional Flutter. Ever Forever. Euphoric Field. Ebullient Future. AndNowYouKnow.


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* HilariousInHindsight: Caught the scene in ''memories'' episode 9 where Miyako holds a [[VisualNovel/{{Clannad}} Big Dango Family]] phone card? Both Miyako and Nagisa would be voiced a few years later in English by Creator/LuciChristian.
14th May '14 12:42:24 AM MoonlightBomber
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* FirstInstallmentWins: While fans acknowledge the ''A Tale of Melodies'' is excellent, ''A Tale of Memories'' tends to get better reviews.
* FridgeBrilliance: ''memories'': When Chihiro gets e-mails from her sister about Kei's own life, Kei writes about events that happen during the summer, when it's winter where Chihiro's side is. [[spoiler: Then comes TheReveal where you find that the Chihiro's side is living on a second Otowa. In Australia. Thus, the season are reversed.]]

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* FirstInstallmentWins: While fans acknowledge the that ''A Tale of Melodies'' is excellent, ''A Tale of Memories'' tends to get better reviews.
* FridgeBrilliance: ''memories'': When Chihiro gets e-mails from her sister about Kei's own life, Kei writes about events that happen during the summer, when it's winter where Chihiro's side is. [[spoiler: Then comes TheReveal where you find that the Chihiro's side is living on a second Otowa. In Australia. Thus, the season seasons are reversed.]]


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* HarsherInHindsight: Viewers who feel uncomfortable with Kuze and Mizuki's MayDecemberRomance may even feel more uncomfortable when they learn that Kuze's English voice actor, Creator/IllichGuardiola, was arrested in May 2014 for having a relationship with a 16-year-old girl.
4th Apr '14 12:32:27 PM DavidDelony
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* {{Narm}}: The scene in episode 11 where [[spoiler: Renji and Chihiro finish their date by kissing [[TheirFirstTime and then having sex]] in the rooftop of the school]] loses quite a part of its emotion when you see [[spoiler: Chihiro]]'s clothes neatly and primorously folded on the floor, as if they were just ready for morning use. Waaaaay to distract the viewer from all of the dramatic tension there.

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* {{Narm}}: The scene in episode 11 where [[spoiler: Renji and Chihiro finish their date by kissing [[TheirFirstTime and then having sex]] in the rooftop of the school]] loses quite a part of its emotion when you see [[spoiler: Chihiro]]'s clothes neatly and primorously folded on the floor, as if they were just ready for morning use. Waaaaay to distract the viewer from all of the dramatic tension there.there.
* TheWoobie: Damn near everybody, but Chihiro and Yuu get it the worst.
4th Apr '14 12:30:04 PM DavidDelony
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* FirstInstallmentWins: While fans acknowledge the ''A Tale of Melodies'' is excellent, ''A Tale of Memories'' tends to get better reviews.
25th May '12 7:04:18 PM friksi
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* KarmaHoudini: The person who was driving the car that [[spoiler: hit and killed Yuuko]] just drove away and left her there and was probably never found.



* {{Narm}}: The scene in episode 11 where [[spoiler: Renji and Chihiro finish their date by kissing [[TheirFirstTime and then having sex]] in the rooftop of the school]] loses quite a part of its emotion when you see [[spoiler: Chihiro]]'s clothes neatly and primorously folded on the floor, as if they were just ready for morning use. Waaaaay to distract the viewer from all of the dramatic tension there.
* ValuesDissonance: "My parents got divorced" would ''not'' be considered an excuse for Miyako's behavior in any country where divorce is remotely common. Because it's a relatively new development in Japan, this kind of portrayal of the psychological effects of divorce on a child is pretty common there.
** "My parents got divorced" is not a very valid excuse. [[spoiler: "My parents hated each other, barely spoke two words to each other while they were together, and were too caught up in their hatred to remember that they had a 6-year-old daughter to take care of. When they finally got divorced, they were so anxious to get away from each other that they both moved out and ''they just left me there''"]] is, however.
** Note that in the game, where her selfishness is the most over-the-top, she does live with family members. Miyako's excuse for her behavior is that she never learned how to interact with people because of her parents' neglect--and unless she lived in a social vacuum (i.e. confined to the house, bullied at school) she would still learn how to behave by observing other people's interactions in public or through the media. Many neglected children (this editor happens to be one) develop attention-seeking behaviors based on how bad the neglect was, but Miyako's behavior is far above and beyond trying to get people to pay attention to and like her. She claims that her disregard of Hiro's needs and other people's feelings ''is not her fault'' because of her childhood trauma, and as a boy raised in a society that's heavy on the importance of the family unit, Hiro believes this and immediately forgives her. The game insinuates that Miyako can't help the way she is, despite the way that she grows out of some of her self-centeredness from Kei's chapter onward--but in countries where such victims of divorce-induced mild-to-moderate neglect are more common, there would still be no excuse for that kind of selfishness, and to insinuate that neglect victims are naturally hurtful to others and don't know any better the way that Miyako claims to be in the visual novel [[UnfortunateImplications can be]] ''[[UnfortunateImplications very]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications offensive]] to said real-life victims.

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* {{Narm}}: The scene in episode 11 where [[spoiler: Renji and Chihiro finish their date by kissing [[TheirFirstTime and then having sex]] in the rooftop of the school]] loses quite a part of its emotion when you see [[spoiler: Chihiro]]'s clothes neatly and primorously folded on the floor, as if they were just ready for morning use. Waaaaay to distract the viewer from all of the dramatic tension there.
* ValuesDissonance: "My parents got divorced" would ''not'' be considered an excuse for Miyako's behavior in any country where divorce is remotely common. Because it's a relatively new development in Japan, this kind of portrayal of the psychological effects of divorce on a child is pretty common there.
** "My parents got divorced" is not a very valid excuse. [[spoiler: "My parents hated each other, barely spoke two words to each other while they were together, and were too caught up in their hatred to remember that they had a 6-year-old daughter to take care of. When they finally got divorced, they were so anxious to get away from each other that they both moved out and ''they just left me there''"]] is, however.
** Note that in the game, where her selfishness is the most over-the-top, she does live with family members. Miyako's excuse for her behavior is that she never learned how to interact with people because of her parents' neglect--and unless she lived in a social vacuum (i.e. confined to the house, bullied at school) she would still learn how to behave by observing other people's interactions in public or through the media. Many neglected children (this editor happens to be one) develop attention-seeking behaviors based on how bad the neglect was, but Miyako's behavior is far above and beyond trying to get people to pay attention to and like her. She claims that her disregard of Hiro's needs and other people's feelings ''is not her fault'' because of her childhood trauma, and as a boy raised in a society that's heavy on the importance of the family unit, Hiro believes this and immediately forgives her. The game insinuates that Miyako can't help the way she is, despite the way that she grows out of some of her self-centeredness from Kei's chapter onward--but in countries where such victims of divorce-induced mild-to-moderate neglect are more common, there would still be no excuse for that kind of selfishness, and to insinuate that neglect victims are naturally hurtful to others and don't know any better the way that Miyako claims to be in the visual novel [[UnfortunateImplications can be]] ''[[UnfortunateImplications very]]'' [[UnfortunateImplications offensive]] to said real-life victims.
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9th Feb '12 9:27:56 PM AbsolFimbulvetr
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** What does "Ef" stand for? Apparently, there are plenty of songs that has "Ef" as initial, including in the Visual Novel. Eternal Feather. Emotional Flutter. Ever Forever. Euphoric Field. Ebullient Future. AndNowYouKnow.
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