History YMMV / Dumbo

3rd Apr '17 7:01:08 PM Hedging
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Though it's not entirely Disney's fault. The movie was based on an extremely obscure and unnoticed children's book that was only in print very briefly, which Walt just happened to stumble upon at a bookstore and cost him only a couple bucks. In fact, if Disney ''hadn't'' made an adaptation of it, chances are Dumbo probably would have been almost completely unheard of today.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Though it's not entirely Disney's fault. The movie was based on an extremely obscure and unnoticed children's book that was only in print for a very briefly, brief time, which Walt just happened to stumble upon at a bookstore and cost him only a couple bucks. In fact, if Disney ''hadn't'' made an adaptation of it, chances are Dumbo probably would have been almost completely unheard of today.
23rd Mar '17 7:03:20 PM Segal991
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Crows.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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The Crows.Crows.
** The pink elephants.
6th Mar '17 8:32:26 PM Pallo
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* CreepyAwesome: The Pink Elephants on Parade.
18th Feb '17 9:17:19 PM FateStayWho
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* WhatAnIdiot: Really? The bratty kid with the big ears sees Mrs. Jumbo hiding her son, and he decides to go past the rope and tug on his ears. Something like that would have gotten him killed in real life.
25th Aug '16 6:17:31 PM NWolfman
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** When asked about it, Floyd Norman, one of Disney's first Black animators, defended the characters as saying that they were never conceived as flat racist stereotypes so much as popular Black entertainers from the era, and that he personally never saw them as offensive.

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** When asked about it, Floyd Norman, one of Disney's first Black animators, defended the characters as saying that they were never conceived as flat racist stereotypes so much as a spoof on popular Black entertainers from the era, and that he personally never saw them as offensive.
15th Aug '16 7:25:39 PM luisedgarf
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* FairForItsDay: Consider that the crows are among the limited number of characters who are half-decent to Dumbo, and prove to easily be the most clever creatures in the movie.

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* FairForItsDay: Consider that the crows are among the limited number of characters who are half-decent to Dumbo, and prove to easily be the most clever creatures in the movie. For obvious reasons, this is subverted in foreign translations, due to the fact the [[LostInTranslation visual pun is lost for non-English speaking audiences]].
13th Jul '16 9:02:32 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: The Crows. Many modern viewers feel that they are a racist, stereotypical portrayal of African Americans (the fact that the leader is named Jim Crow does not help). Others point out that they are the only characters aside from Timothy who are sympathetic to Dumbo and help him and are portrayed as being very clever, a trait not shown in stereotypical African American characters.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: The Crows. Many modern viewers feel that they are a racist, stereotypical portrayal of African Americans (the fact that the leader is named Jim Crow does not help). Others point out that they are the only characters aside from Timothy who are sympathetic to Dumbo and help him and are portrayed as being very clever, a trait not shown in stereotypical African American characters.
27th Jun '16 12:37:04 PM NWolfman
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** "Baby Mine" isn't necessarily catchy, but it's certainly memorable.

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** "Baby Mine" isn't necessarily catchy, but it's certainly memorable.[[TearJerker memorable]].



** When asked about it, Floyd Norman, one of Disney's first Black animators, defended the characters as saying that they were never conceived as flat racist stereotypes so much as popular Black entertainers from the era, and that he personally never saw them as offensive.



** The circus starting out in Florida can be seen as this now that Disney World is there..

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** The circus starting out in Florida can be seen as this now that Disney World is there.. there.
26th Jun '16 1:24:10 AM annette12
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* OneSceneWonder: Jumbo's mother only says one line "Jumbo...Junior" while giving a name to her son.
** Also the Stork, who delivers Dumbo to her.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The general reaction to the announcement of a live-action film. Certainly not helped by it being a ''HumanFocusedAdaptation''.

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* OneSceneWonder: Jumbo's mother only says one line "Jumbo...Junior" while giving a name to her son.
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son. Also the Stork, who delivers Dumbo to her.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The general reaction to the announcement of a live-action film. Certainly not helped by it being a ''HumanFocusedAdaptation''.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The general reaction to the announcement of a live-action film. Certainly not helped by it being a ''HumanFocusedAdaptation''.
26th Jun '16 1:22:07 AM annette12
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* BaseBreakers: The Crows. Many modern viewers feel that they are a racist, stereotypical portrayal of African Americans (the fact that the leader is named Jim Crow does not help). Others point out that they are the only characters aside from Timothy who are sympathetic to Dumbo and help him and are portrayed as being very clever, a trait not shown in stereotypical African American characters.

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* BaseBreakers: BaseBreaker: The Crows. Many modern viewers feel that they are a racist, stereotypical portrayal of African Americans (the fact that the leader is named Jim Crow does not help). Others point out that they are the only characters aside from Timothy who are sympathetic to Dumbo and help him and are portrayed as being very clever, a trait not shown in stereotypical African American characters.
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