History YMMV / Drowtales

19th May '18 8:45:01 AM costanton11
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* PacingProblems: Drowtales is generally focused on story and characters more than action. However, people being people, the choices of the creative team in how to tell the story fairly regularly end up in TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, SlowPacedBeginning, OffscreenMomentOfAwesome, BattleDiscretionShot, a kind of RelaxOVision, TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste, or TakeOurWordForIt. Or GushingAboutWritingYouLike. The creative team has acknowledged some of these problems, have been attempting to fix some of them with newer chapters and it seems that it's working.

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* PacingProblems: Drowtales is generally focused on story and characters more than action. However, people being people, the choices of the creative team in how to tell the story fairly regularly end up in TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, SlowPacedBeginning, OffscreenMomentOfAwesome, BattleDiscretionShot, a kind of RelaxOVision, TheyPlottedAPerfectlyGoodWaste, or TakeOurWordForIt. Or GushingAboutWritingYouLike.SugarWiki/GushingAboutWritingYouLike. The creative team has acknowledged some of these problems, have been attempting to fix some of them with newer chapters and it seems that it's working.
14th Feb '18 6:44:35 AM Silverblade2
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* BaseBreaker: Given the GreyAndGrayMorality of the setting, this was perhaps inevitable, but there are a few things in particular that divide the fanbase:

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Given the GreyAndGrayMorality of the setting, this was perhaps inevitable, but there are a few things in particular that divide the fanbase:
30th Aug '17 8:23:45 PM Angeldeb82
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Many fans are rightfully annoyed whenever Ariel yells at Mel'arnach. However, keep in mind that Mel'arnach freedom was bought by Ariel earning a favor from Quain'tana, which is no easy task, to say the least. How does Mel'arnach respond? By going out of her way to insult and provoke Quain'tana at every opportunity, badmouthing the Il'haress to anyone and everyone, which is basically throwing Ariel's gift back in her face, and basically condemning Ariel for being a loyal soldier to the clan, as opposed to being Mel's doting, unwavering pet/tool, and worshiping at the feet of Snad, the DevilInPlainSight. It's quite possible that Ariel's rocky relationship with her birth-mother is simply the result of AngerBornOfWorry twisting into something else due to Mel's own SelectiveObliviousness, which Ariel [[JerkassHasAPoint has pointed out more than once.]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Many fans are rightfully annoyed whenever Ariel yells at Mel'arnach. However, keep in mind that Mel'arnach freedom was bought by Ariel earning a favor from Quain'tana, which is no easy task, to say the least. How does Mel'arnach respond? By going out of her way to insult and provoke Quain'tana at every opportunity, badmouthing the Il'haress to anyone and everyone, which is basically throwing Ariel's gift back in her face, and basically condemning Ariel for being a loyal soldier to the clan, as opposed to being Mel's doting, unwavering pet/tool, and worshiping at the feet of Snad, the DevilInPlainSight. It's quite possible that Ariel's rocky relationship with her birth-mother is simply the result of AngerBornOfWorry twisting into something else due to Mel's own SelectiveObliviousness, which Ariel [[JerkassHasAPoint has pointed out more than once.]] once]].



* BaseBreaker: Given the GreyAndGreyMorality of the setting, this was perhaps inevitable, but there are a few things in particular that divide the fanbase:

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* BaseBreaker: Given the GreyAndGreyMorality GreyAndGrayMorality of the setting, this was perhaps inevitable, but there are a few things in particular that divide the fanbase:
30th Aug '17 8:23:09 PM Angeldeb82
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* AlasPoorVillain: For all the horrible, awful things [[spoiler: Kalki]] has done, and even though she got very little sympathy for [[spoiler: having her arm torn off to replace Ariel's,]] it's still hard not to feel sorry for her when [[spoiler: a completely fed up Snadhya murders her horribly via summon]]. The fact that she says ''"Mom?"'' in disbelief as she's left to her fate, along with the confirmation that Snadhya has ''never'' seen her as anything other than a tool, let alone a child, only makes it more tragic. Especially considering that [[spoiler: Snadhya's "parenting"]] is a major reason why [[spoiler: Kalki]] turned out the way she did.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Many fans are rightfully annoyed whenever Ariel yells at Mel'arnach. However, keep in mind that Mel'arnach freedom was bought by Ariel earning a favor from Quain'tana, which is no easy task, to say the least. How does Mel'arnach respond? By going out of her way to insult and provoke Quain'tana at every opportunity, badmouthing the Il'haress to anyone and everyone, which is basically throwing Ariel's gift back in her face, and basically condemning Ariel for being a loyal soldier to the clan, as opposed to being Mel's doting, unwavering pet/tool, and worshiping at the feet of Snad, the DevilInPlainSight. It's quite possible that Ariel's rocky relationship with her birth-mother is simply the result of AngerBornOfWorry twisting into something else due to Mel's own SelectiveObliviousness, which Ariel [[JerkassHasAPoint has pointed out more than once.]]

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* AlasPoorVillain: For all the horrible, awful things [[spoiler: Kalki]] has done, and even though she got very little sympathy for [[spoiler: having her arm torn off to replace Ariel's,]] Ariel's]], it's still hard not to feel sorry for her when [[spoiler: a completely fed up Snadhya murders her horribly via summon]]. The fact that she says ''"Mom?"'' in disbelief as she's left to her fate, along with the confirmation that Snadhya has ''never'' seen her as anything other than a tool, let alone a child, only makes it more tragic. Especially considering that [[spoiler: Snadhya's "parenting"]] is a major reason why [[spoiler: Kalki]] turned out the way she did.
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Many fans are rightfully annoyed whenever Ariel yells at Mel'arnach. However, keep in mind that Mel'arnach freedom was bought by Ariel earning a favor from Quain'tana, which is no easy task, to say the least. How does Mel'arnach respond? By going out of her way to insult and provoke Quain'tana at every opportunity, badmouthing the Il'haress to anyone and everyone, which is basically throwing Ariel's gift back in her face, and basically condemning Ariel for being a loyal soldier to the clan, as opposed to being Mel's doting, unwavering pet/tool, and worshiping at the feet of Snad, the DevilInPlainSight. It's quite possible that Ariel's rocky relationship with her birth-mother is simply the result of AngerBornOfWorry twisting into something else due to Mel's own SelectiveObliviousness, which Ariel [[JerkassHasAPoint has pointed out more than once.]]
2nd Jul '17 10:12:26 AM Harem-author
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** Kyo'nne jumped over it yelling "wahoo" when she, completely unprovoked, and without warning, [[spoiler: violated the rules of diplomacy and sacred rights of the messenger by having the airship she's riding turn and fire a broadside on the tower where Ariel is residing and ruling Matchike because Ariel wasn't foolish enough to walk into a Felde "gathering" a second time.]] To firmly cement Kyo's villainy at this point, Kyo isn't weeping, restrained, or held at sword point. With a completely neutral, if not bored, expression, she says "how stupid."
28th May '17 6:04:21 AM Harem-author
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** Shinae was greeted with universal cheering when she, single-handed, [[spoiler: took on and defeated ''two'' of the "Sul Trio," killing them both]] while protecting Chrys'tel from certain death.


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** Although she [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap gets rescued]], fans loathed Shinae for her near constant whining, mood swings, hypocrisy ("you peasants shouldn't try so hard to rise above your station", "it's no fair I'm just treated like a tool by Zala because of how I was born"), ultimately culminating in the entire fanbase wanting her dead [[spoiler: for poisoning Zala, stabbing Zala in the belly, and turning on Chrys'tel, who ''tried'' to plead the case that Shinae was being controlled, like just about everyone else.]]
31st Mar '17 6:02:02 AM Theriocephalus
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* IKnewIt: The theory that [[spoiler:Drowussu are descended from light-elves]] though this had been foreshadowed fairly heavily.

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* IKnewIt: IKnewIt:
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The theory that [[spoiler:Drowussu are descended from light-elves]] light-elves]], though this had been foreshadowed fairly heavily.



* JerkassWoobie - Most [[TheWoobie Woobies]] count as this (with a few exceptions, including [[PowerIncontinence Faen]]). In particular:

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* JerkassWoobie - JerkassWoobie: Most [[TheWoobie Woobies]] count as this (with a few exceptions, including [[PowerIncontinence Faen]]). In particular:
18th Dec '16 1:29:11 PM Harem-author
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** Ariel, herself, as of the latest chapters. Many forumites are getting ready to throw her onto the scrappy pile, not just because she fails to know things that only those with knowledge beyond the fourth wall would [[spoiler: like Vene's death]], but because they believe she's not growing as a character, at all, and lets herself get smacked around too much. Others are annoyed that she's survived too often purely by what they percieve as plot armor, and want her beat up ''even more''. Some want to see her completely snap and go OmnicidalManiac, or close to it, abusing her shapeshifter powers to become a literal monster. Many even wonder why she "takes so long" to retaliate and is hestitant to kill her foes, even when taking into account that while the audience is enduring the story over several days or weeks, for her, it's been ''hours'', tops. Those who remember that she's still young, inexperienced, and that the closest thing she's had to a "proper" education, is getting hunted like wild game down the corridors of Orthobbae for sport, and that every one of her kills, justified or no, has been horrifically traumatizing, '''for her''' is becoming an ever decreasing number.
25th Oct '16 7:04:59 PM nombretomado
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* MemeticMutation - There is a minor one in the forums of Drowtales where Kern is portrayed as somebody who enjoys feeding on angst, despair and anger because of how often the fans' favourites suffer and reacting with the above mentioned emotions. Comparisons to GeorgeRRMartin are inevitable.

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* MemeticMutation - MemeticMutation:
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There is a minor one in the forums of Drowtales where Kern is portrayed as somebody who enjoys feeding on angst, despair and anger because of how often the fans' favourites suffer and reacting with the above mentioned emotions. Comparisons to GeorgeRRMartin Creator/GeorgeRRMartin are inevitable.



** Also a minor one with the second panel [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=8787 this page]], where due to the placement of the speech bubble it looks like the dragon is talking. Jokes about the talking dragon persisted for several days after on the forum.

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** Also a A minor one with the second panel [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=8787 this page]], where due to the placement of the speech bubble it looks like the dragon is talking. Jokes about the talking dragon persisted for several days after on the forum.
17th Jul '16 10:19:32 AM nombretomado
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* MemeticBadass: The fans have turned Quain'tana into this. ChuckNorris fears [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=1232 Quain's abs.]]

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* MemeticBadass: The fans have turned Quain'tana into this. ChuckNorris Creator/ChuckNorris fears [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?order=chapters&id=1232 Quain's abs.]]
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