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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: [[http://dresdencodak.com/2009/12/16/lantern-season/ Never Alone]].
** On Kimiko's first day in Nephilopolis, she repaired a robot. Nobody had ever done this before, and the robots are so grateful that they've not only [[https://dresdencodak.com/2015/05/05/dark-science-45/ built a giant statue of her]] but they also build her a facility in which [[spoiler: she can give herself a whole new body.]] This is the first event that triggers her major CharacterDevelopment after the previous storyline.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: [[http://dresdencodak.com/2009/12/16/lantern-season/ Never Alone]].
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On Kimiko's first day in Nephilopolis, she repaired a robot. Nobody had ever done this before, and the robots are so grateful that they've not only [[https://dresdencodak.com/2015/05/05/dark-science-45/ built a giant statue of her]] but they also build her a facility in which [[spoiler: she can give herself a whole new body.]] This is the first event that triggers her major CharacterDevelopment after the previous storyline.storyline.
%%** [[http://dresdencodak.com/2009/12/16/lantern-season/ Never Alone]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Some readers see Kimiko as an EvilutionaryBiologist. Others think more kindly of her.
* AssPull: Transmuting the entire natural world into computronium actually makes plants healthier and grow better. Well ''that'' sure is convenient.

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* %%* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Some readers see Kimiko as an EvilutionaryBiologist. Others think more kindly of her.
* %%* AssPull: Transmuting the entire natural world into computronium actually makes plants healthier and grow better. Well ''that'' sure is convenient.



** More [[https://dresdencodak.com/2022/07/11/dark-science-119-goodbye-bodyguard/ recently]], the first major sign of said Character Development:
--->'''Kimiko''': I don't know how to... my whole life... nobody gets close, everybody leaves. "Spooky girl, ha ha, keep your distance." So I keep my distance, I work, I make everything a project, I fix things. That's what I... But I'm sick of it! I don't want allies and bodyguards, I want '''friends'''!
--->'''Ling''': [''taking her hand''] Hey, doofus. What do you think we are?
* LesYay: ''Quite'' a bit of it between Kim and Lilith, and that's even before they end up [[ItMakesSenseInContext kissing to stall the police.]]
* MemeticMutation: [[http://dresdencodak.com/2008/05/02/copan/ "I will do science to it."]]
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[http://dresdencodak.com/2013/03/19/dark-science-25/ "I do not help, Mr. Bogan. I oppose."]]
* NightmareFuel:
** "[[http://dresdencodak.com/2006/02/13/trouble-in-memphis/ Somewhere]], Niels Bohr walks among us, unobserved and '''immortal'''."
** When Kimiko tells Balthazar about how she lost her arm, legs, three ribs, one eye and half her spinal cord, she adds "It's not so bad. I got to make my own replacements. It's very--" This is accompanied by a [[https://dresdencodak.com/2012/03/09/dark-science-17/ flashback picture]] of her ''operating on herself'', with tears of pain streaming down her face, [[SkipTheAnesthetic biting down on a tongue depresser to stop herself from screaming]].

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** %%** More [[https://dresdencodak.com/2022/07/11/dark-science-119-goodbye-bodyguard/ recently]], the first major sign of said Character Development:
--->'''Kimiko''': %%--->'''Kimiko''': I don't know how to... my whole life... nobody gets close, everybody leaves. "Spooky girl, ha ha, keep your distance." So I keep my distance, I work, I make everything a project, I fix things. That's what I... But I'm sick of it! I don't want allies and bodyguards, I want '''friends'''!
--->'''Ling''':
'''friends'''!\\
'''Ling''':
[''taking her hand''] Hey, doofus. What do you think we are?
* %%* LesYay: ''Quite'' a bit of it between Kim and Lilith, and that's even before they end up [[ItMakesSenseInContext kissing to stall the police.]]
* %%* MemeticMutation: [[http://dresdencodak.com/2008/05/02/copan/ "I will do science to it."]]
* %%* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: [[http://dresdencodak.com/2013/03/19/dark-science-25/ "I do not help, Mr. Bogan. I oppose."]]
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NightmareFuel: When Kimiko tells Balthazar about how she lost her arm, legs, three ribs, one eye and half her spinal cord, she adds "It's not so bad. I got to make my own replacements. It's very--" This is accompanied by a [[https://dresdencodak.com/2012/03/09/dark-science-17/ flashback picture]] of her ''operating on herself'', with tears of pain streaming down her face, [[SkipTheAnesthetic biting down on a tongue depresser to stop herself from screaming]].
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"[[http://dresdencodak.com/2006/02/13/trouble-in-memphis/ Somewhere]], Niels Bohr walks among us, unobserved and '''immortal'''."
** When Kimiko tells Balthazar about how she lost her arm, legs, three ribs, one eye and half her spinal cord, she adds "It's not so bad. I got to make my own replacements. It's very--" This is accompanied by a [[https://dresdencodak.com/2012/03/09/dark-science-17/ flashback picture]] of her ''operating on herself'', with tears of pain streaming down her face, [[SkipTheAnesthetic biting down on a tongue depresser to stop herself from screaming]].

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%%* AcceptableReligiousTargets: Evangelical Christians.
* AcceptableTargets: In the "Dark Science" storyline, capitalism along with one of its mindsets on technology as the sole aspect to solve issues rather than societal change.

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* AcceptableReligiousTargets: Evangelical Christians.

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* NightmareFuel: "[[http://dresdencodak.com/2006/02/13/trouble-in-memphis/ Somewhere]], Niels Bohr walks among us, unobserved and '''immortal'''."

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"[[http://dresdencodak.com/2006/02/13/trouble-in-memphis/ Somewhere]], Niels Bohr walks among us, unobserved and '''immortal'''."

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue; while fans of the series feel the criticisms are either overblown or just excuses to bash the author. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. It would be one thing if Kim herself was intentionally portrayed as an unhinged and broken individual, whose past experiences made her the way she is, then her unhinged ideals and beliefs would make sense. However in the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin. This is less of an issue in the non-arc based stories, as they work based on the absurdity...but once Dark Science happens? It gets NUTS.

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Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue; while fans of the series feel the criticisms are either overblown or just excuses to bash the author. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. It would be one thing if Kim herself was intentionally portrayed as an unhinged and broken individual, whose past experiences made her the way she is, then her unhinged ideals and beliefs would make sense. However in the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin. This is less of an issue in the non-arc based stories, as they work based on the absurdity...but once Dark Science happens? It gets NUTS.
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* AcceptableTargets: In the "Dark Science" storyline, capitalism.

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* AcceptableTargets: In the "Dark Science" storyline, capitalism.capitalism along with one of its mindsets on technology as the sole aspect to solve issues rather than societal change.

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** More [[https://dresdencodak.com/2022/07/11/dark-science-119-goodbye-bodyguard/ recently]], a striking bit of CharacterDevelopment:

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** On Kimiko's first day in Nephilopolis, she repaired a robot. Nobody had ever done this before, and the robots are so grateful that they've not only [[https://dresdencodak.com/2015/05/05/dark-science-45/ built a giant statue of her]] but they also build her a facility in which [[spoiler: she can give herself a whole new body.]] This is the first event that triggers her major CharacterDevelopment after the previous storyline.
** More [[https://dresdencodak.com/2022/07/11/dark-science-119-goodbye-bodyguard/ recently]], a striking bit the first major sign of CharacterDevelopment:said Character Development:
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--->'''Kimiko''': I don't know how to... my whole life... nobody gets close, everybody leaves. "Spooky girl, ha ha, keep your distance. So I keep my distance, I work, I make everything a project, I fix things. That's what I... But I'm sick of it! I don't want allies and bodyguards, I want '''friends'''!

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--->'''Kimiko''': I don't know how to... my whole life... nobody gets close, everybody leaves. "Spooky girl, ha ha, keep your distance. " So I keep my distance, I work, I make everything a project, I fix things. That's what I... But I'm sick of it! I don't want allies and bodyguards, I want '''friends'''!

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** On the other hand, she becomes considerably warmer and less up herself towards the end of the "Dark Science" storyline, eventually admitting to Ling that she's desperate to have some actual friends.

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** On the other hand, she becomes considerably warmer and less up herself towards the end of the "Dark Science" storyline, eventually admitting to Ling that she's [[https://dresdencodak.com/2022/07/11/dark-science-119-goodbye-bodyguard/ desperate to have some actual friends.friends]].


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** More [[https://dresdencodak.com/2022/07/11/dark-science-119-goodbye-bodyguard/ recently]], a striking bit of CharacterDevelopment:
--->'''Kimiko''': I don't know how to... my whole life... nobody gets close, everybody leaves. "Spooky girl, ha ha, keep your distance. So I keep my distance, I work, I make everything a project, I fix things. That's what I... But I'm sick of it! I don't want allies and bodyguards, I want '''friends'''!
--->'''Ling''': [''taking her hand''] Hey, doofus. What do you think we are?
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* AcceptableTargets: In the "Dark Science" storyline, basically anything to do with government whatsoever.

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* AcceptableTargets: In the "Dark Science" storyline, basically anything to do with government whatsoever.capitalism.
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** On the other hand, she becomes considerably warmer and less up herself towards the end of the "Dark Science" storyline, eventually admitting to Ling that she's desperate to have some actual friends.
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** When Kimiko tells Balthazar about how she lost her arm, legs, three ribs, one eye and half her spinal cord, she adds "It's not so bad. I got to make my own replacements. It's very--" This is accompanied by a [[https://dresdencodak.com/2012/03/09/dark-science-17/ flashback picture]] of her ''operating on herself'', with tears of pain streaming down her face, [[SkipTheAnesthetic biting down on a tongue depresser to stop herself from screaming]].
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* AcceptableTargets: In the "Dark Science" storyline, basically anything to do with government whatsoever.
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* EightDeadlyWords: The long gaps between updates and opaque characters with strange, cryptic dialogue makes it difficult for many to make a connection to the characters.
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* NightmareFuel: "[[http://dresdencodak.com/2006/02/13/trouble-in-memphis/ Somewhere]], Niels Bohr walks among us, unobserved and '''immortal'''."

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* NightmareFuel: "[[http://dresdencodak.com/2006/02/13/trouble-in-memphis/ Somewhere]], Niels Bohr walks among us, unobserved and '''immortal'''.""
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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg panels that don't guide the reader to the text (or vice-versa)]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpg disorganized text boxes and speech bubbles]].
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue; while fans of the series feel the criticisms are either overblown or just excuses to bash the author. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. In the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin. This is less of an issue in the non-arc based stories, as they work based on the absurdity...but once Dark Science happens? It gets NUTS.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue; while fans of the series feel the criticisms are either overblown or just excuses to bash the author. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. In It would be one thing if Kim herself was intentionally portrayed as an unhinged and broken individual, whose past experiences made her the way she is, then her unhinged ideals and beliefs would make sense. However in the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin. This is less of an issue in the non-arc based stories, as they work based on the absurdity...but once Dark Science happens? It gets NUTS.
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** [[This is especially a point when she gets her Exode body, which is explicitly just BETTER then everything.]]

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** [[This [[spoiler:This is especially a point when she gets her Exode body, which is explicitly just BETTER then everything.]]

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue; while fans of the series feel the criticisms are either overblown or just excuses to bash the author. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. In the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue; while fans of the series feel the criticisms are either overblown or just excuses to bash the author. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. In the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin. This is less of an issue in the non-arc based stories, as they work based on the absurdity...but once Dark Science happens? It gets NUTS.
** [[This is especially a point when she gets her Exode body, which is explicitly just BETTER then everything.]]

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* EightDeadlyWords: The long gaps between updates and opaque characters with strange, cryptic dialogue makes it difficult for many to make a connection to the characters.


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* EightDeadlyWords: The long gaps between updates and opaque characters with strange, cryptic dialogue makes it difficult for many to make a connection to the characters.
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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg disorganized panels]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpg disorganized text boxes and speech bubbles]].

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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg disorganized panels]] panels that don't guide the reader to the text (or vice-versa)]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpg disorganized text boxes and speech bubbles]].
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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg disorganized panels]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpg disorganized text boxes]].

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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg disorganized panels]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpg disorganized text boxes]].boxes and speech bubbles]].
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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg disorganized panels]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpgdisorganized text boxes]].

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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg disorganized panels]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpgdisorganized jpg disorganized text boxes]].
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* EightDeadlyWords: The long gaps between updates and opaque characters with strange, cryptic dialogue makes it difficult for many to make a connection to the characters.


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** YMMV. While the pictures themselves are fine, the layout of the comic is generally abysmal, with [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2013-07-04-dark_science_26.jpg crowded overlapping panels]] , [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2011-08-12-dark_science_11.jpg disorganized panels]] , and [[http://dresdencodak.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/2010-07-10-dark_science_03.jpgdisorganized text boxes]].
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Internet Backdraft is now Flame Bait and being dewicked per TRS.


* InternetBackdraft: Cube Watermelon (of Webcomic/KiwiBlitz fame) [[http://cubewatermelon.tumblr.com/post/95456037742/sometimes-i-think-its-okay-to-just-admit-that-you critiqued]] (Warning NSFW) the series and a group of pin-ups the author did. A massive flame war erupted over that.
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* LesYay: ''Quite'' a bit of it between Kim and Lilith, and that's even before they end up [[ItMakesSenseInContext kissing as a distraction.]]

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* LesYay: ''Quite'' a bit of it between Kim and Lilith, and that's even before they end up [[ItMakesSenseInContext kissing as a distraction.to stall the police.]]
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* LesYay: ''Quite'' a bit of it between Kim and Lilith, and that's even before they end up [[ItMakesSenseInContext kissing as a distraction.]]


* CounterpartComparison: [[http://thewebcomicsreview.tumblr.com/post/118278724605/dresdencodak-dark-science-45-the-favor-oh#notes Several]] [[http://mole-reads.tumblr.com/post/118279825741/changing-my-usual-tunes-here-let-me-talk-dresden people]] [[http://mr-ru.tumblr.com/post/118288470421/sigmaleph-in-the-latest-dresden-codak-kim have noticed]] the similarity between robots worshiping Kim and the robot religion storyline in ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt''.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArtSugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The comic's divisive, but the art is almost always agreed to be extremely detailed and well-constructed.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue. Having her being an extremely attractive, transhuman cyborg probably [[AuthorAppeal doesn't help either]]. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. In the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin.

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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Is Kimiko Ross a well crafted and interesting heroine or a bad case of the author projecting? With the lengthy name, suspiciously [[OtakuSurrogate tomboyish traits]], and the central importance of the protagonist have led some to call Mary Sue. Having her being an extremely attractive, transhuman cyborg probably [[AuthorAppeal doesn't help either]].Sue; while fans of the series feel the criticisms are either overblown or just excuses to bash the author. The fact that she's a clearly unhinged ideologue who doesn't care if mankind lives or dies is either a good counterpoint to this that makes her flawed or it just makes her creepier. In the actual comic, reality tends to bend to fit her opinions and prejudices and is, for many, the nail in the coffin.



* InternetBackdraft: Cube Watermelon's (of Webcomic/KiwiBlitz fame) [[http://cubewatermelon.tumblr.com/post/95456037742/sometimes-i-think-its-okay-to-just-admit-that-you critique]] of the series caused a bit of a stir to say the least.

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* InternetBackdraft: Cube Watermelon's Watermelon (of Webcomic/KiwiBlitz fame) [[http://cubewatermelon.tumblr.com/post/95456037742/sometimes-i-think-its-okay-to-just-admit-that-you critique]] of critiqued]] (Warning NSFW) the series caused and a bit group of a stir to say pin-ups the least.author did. A massive flame war erupted over that.

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