History YMMV / DreamTheater

2nd Feb '17 8:10:02 PM CassandraLeo
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* EpicRiff: For a band often slagged for their songwriting, they have quite a few of these on a wide variety of instruments. From ''Awake'', the main riffs from "Erotomania" and "The Mirror" are good examples, as is the drum intro to "6:00".



** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it; many fans are back to praising has work as early as on ''Scenes from a Memory'').

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** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it; many fans are back to praising has work as early as on ''Scenes from a Memory''). He's also generally considered to be a technically gifted vocalist; people are just divided on whether they actually like his voice, or whether his singing fits with the band's style.
8th Jan '17 3:22:26 PM CassandraLeo
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: You're most likely to hear ''Music/ImagesAndWords'' or ''Music/MetropolisPt2ScenesFromAMemory'' cited as their best album, but there are other fans who will give the nod to works like ''Awake'', ''A Change of Seasons'' (technically an EP, though it's longer than a few of the band's actual albums), ''Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence'', or ''Train of Thought''.
8th Jan '17 3:15:56 PM CassandraLeo
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Overall, they avert {{Author Tract}}s in their music, with a few exceptions. The biggest exception is that they have quite a few songs based on mental disorders, and they're not remotely subtle about depicting how debilitating said disorders can be, nor how unjust it is that people who suffer from them are stigmatised in society. "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" may be the best example, though "The Enemy Inside" also deserves mention for bringing attention to the problem of post-traumatic stress disorder among war veterans (as well as the band's close work with a charity for said veterans).
8th Jan '17 3:10:04 PM CassandraLeo
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* HeartwarmingMoments: [[Heartwarming/DreamTheater They have their own page.]]
8th Jan '17 3:09:36 PM CassandraLeo
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* AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/DreamTheater Have their own page.]]



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[Awesome/DreamTheater Have their own page.]]



** ''When Dream and Day Unite'', due to its fairly jarring EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. As in "there was no DT before James LaBrie".

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** ''When Dream and Day Unite'', due to its fairly jarring EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. As in "there was no DT before James LaBrie".[=LaBrie=]".



* {{Growing The Beard}}s: As one might tell by the plural, played literally, too. Their breakthrough, ''Images and Words'', was released in 1992 and peaked at #61 in the United States. Nobody had any facial hair. Compare that to 2007's ''Systematic Chaos'', their first Top 20 album (#19) and 2009's ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'', their first Top 10 (#6) which by then, everyone except Myung is more often seen with big beards and other facial hair.

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* FunnyMoments: [[Funny/DreamTheater Have their own page.]]
* {{Growing The the Beard}}s: As one might tell by the plural, played literally, too. Their breakthrough, ''Images and Words'', was released in 1992 and peaked at #61 in the United States. Nobody had any facial hair. Compare that to 2007's ''Systematic Chaos'', their first Top 20 album (#19) and 2009's ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'', their first Top 10 (#6) which by then, everyone except Myung is more often seen with big beards and other facial hair.



** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it).

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** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it).it; many fans are back to praising has work as early as on ''Scenes from a Memory'').


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* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/DreamTheater Have their own page]], and they've really, ''really'' earned it.
8th Jan '17 10:46:54 AM CassandraLeo
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* LargeHam: The ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' album treats us to thunder, dissonant piano, heavy guitars, choirs, and organs. Oh, and that's just in the first minute of over an hour of music.
8th Jan '17 10:06:22 AM CassandraLeo
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* NightmareFuel:
** "Caught in a Web" can ''really'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCPdhom8V4 inspire this sort of thing]].
** Their cover of "Flick of the Wrist" by {{Queen}} on the special edition of ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' too, specifically the way James [=LaBrie=] sings the verses.
** [[spoiler: Open your eyes, Nicholas. AHH! *record scratch* *static*]]
** Made even worse when you remember that [[spoiler: several songs earlier Nicholas mentioned having a wife and son.]]

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* NightmareFuel:
** "Caught in a Web" can ''really'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCPdhom8V4 inspire this sort of thing]].
** Their cover of "Flick of the Wrist" by {{Queen}} on the special edition of ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' too, specifically the way James [=LaBrie=] sings the verses.
** [[spoiler: Open your eyes, Nicholas. AHH! *record scratch* *static*]]
** Made even worse when you remember that [[spoiler: several songs earlier Nicholas mentioned having a wife and son.]]
NightmareFuel: They have [[NightmareFuel/DreamTheater their own page]].
8th Jan '17 10:03:50 AM CassandraLeo
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Millage may vary, but there's no doubt that the self titled brought a lot of fans back following the mixed bag release of ''A Dramatic Turn of Events'', often even called [[UpToEleven heavier]] than ''Train of Thought'' and some (even Mike Portnoy) feel the album is similar to ''Images and Words''.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Millage Mileage may vary, but there's no doubt that the self titled brought a lot of fans back following the mixed bag release of ''A Dramatic Turn of Events'', often even called [[UpToEleven heavier]] than ''Train of Thought'' and some (even Mike Portnoy) feel the album is similar to ''Images and Words''.
8th Jan '17 10:03:03 AM CassandraLeo
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** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act.

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** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it).
7th Jan '17 12:04:50 PM CassandraLeo
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* BrokenBase: Generally in the form of Older Stuff vs. Newer Stuff. The dividing point is usually with ''Scenes From A Memory''.

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* BrokenBase: Generally in the form of Older Stuff vs. Newer Stuff. The dividing point is usually with ''Scenes From A from a Memory''.



* EndingFatigue: "Six Degrees"'s final chord fades out over the course of two minutes, and Finally Free's outro riff repeats twelve times before the song ends... leading into a minute-and-a-half long epilogue that cuts to lingering static. Subverted by "Octavarium", which sounds like it's about to end on the last chord of "Intervals", but transitions into "Razor's Edge", which is epic enough to defy this trope.

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* EndingFatigue: "Six Degrees"'s final chord fades out over the course of two minutes, and Finally Free's "Finally Free"'s outro riff repeats twelve times before the song ends... leading into a minute-and-a-half long epilogue that cuts to lingering static. Subverted by "Octavarium", which sounds like it's about to end on the last chord of "Intervals", but transitions into "Razor's Edge", which is epic enough to defy this trope.


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** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act.
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