History YMMV / DreamTheater

1st May '17 7:26:37 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* LoveItOrHateIt: ''Music/TheAstonishing'' has quickly become this among the fandom. While critics loved it, the fanbase was really divided. Those who loved it for its story and for featuring some of the best songs of the band's career called it the best album since ''Octavarium'', while the detractors that disliked it for its 2 hour length, [[UpToEleven almost every other]] song being a power ballad, and the cheesy lyrics were saying this is where Dream Theater [[JumpingTheShark jumped the shark]]. Keep in mind though that the detractors still find a few songs off this album to be good, but a 2 hour long album gets really tiring to listen to.
** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it; many fans are back to praising has work as early as on ''Scenes from a Memory''). He's also generally considered to be a technically gifted vocalist; people are just divided on whether they actually like his voice, or whether his singing fits with the band's style.
1st May '17 7:26:06 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* JerkAss: Mike Portnoy according to some fans, especially after he left the band.
25th Feb '17 8:19:11 AM Anddrix
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* HellIsThatNoise:
** The solo and [[FakeOutFadeOut outro]] of "Misunderstood".
** The extended ending to "Panic Attack".
** The NOMAC Tracks off ''The Astonishing''.
2nd Feb '17 8:10:02 PM CassandraLeo
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* EpicRiff: For a band often slagged for their songwriting, they have quite a few of these on a wide variety of instruments. From ''Awake'', the main riffs from "Erotomania" and "The Mirror" are good examples, as is the drum intro to "6:00".



** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it; many fans are back to praising has work as early as on ''Scenes from a Memory'').

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** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it; many fans are back to praising has work as early as on ''Scenes from a Memory''). He's also generally considered to be a technically gifted vocalist; people are just divided on whether they actually like his voice, or whether his singing fits with the band's style.
8th Jan '17 3:22:26 PM CassandraLeo
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: You're most likely to hear ''Music/ImagesAndWords'' or ''Music/MetropolisPt2ScenesFromAMemory'' cited as their best album, but there are other fans who will give the nod to works like ''Awake'', ''A Change of Seasons'' (technically an EP, though it's longer than a few of the band's actual albums), ''Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence'', or ''Train of Thought''.
8th Jan '17 3:15:56 PM CassandraLeo
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Overall, they avert {{Author Tract}}s in their music, with a few exceptions. The biggest exception is that they have quite a few songs based on mental disorders, and they're not remotely subtle about depicting how debilitating said disorders can be, nor how unjust it is that people who suffer from them are stigmatised in society. "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence" may be the best example, though "The Enemy Inside" also deserves mention for bringing attention to the problem of post-traumatic stress disorder among war veterans (as well as the band's close work with a charity for said veterans).
8th Jan '17 3:10:04 PM CassandraLeo
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* HeartwarmingMoments: [[Heartwarming/DreamTheater They have their own page.]]
8th Jan '17 3:09:36 PM CassandraLeo
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* AwesomeMusic: [[AwesomeMusic/DreamTheater Have their own page.]]



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[Awesome/DreamTheater Have their own page.]]



** ''When Dream and Day Unite'', due to its fairly jarring EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. As in "there was no DT before James LaBrie".

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** ''When Dream and Day Unite'', due to its fairly jarring EarlyInstallmentWeirdness. As in "there was no DT before James LaBrie".[=LaBrie=]".



* {{Growing The Beard}}s: As one might tell by the plural, played literally, too. Their breakthrough, ''Images and Words'', was released in 1992 and peaked at #61 in the United States. Nobody had any facial hair. Compare that to 2007's ''Systematic Chaos'', their first Top 20 album (#19) and 2009's ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'', their first Top 10 (#6) which by then, everyone except Myung is more often seen with big beards and other facial hair.

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* FunnyMoments: [[Funny/DreamTheater Have their own page.]]
* {{Growing The the Beard}}s: As one might tell by the plural, played literally, too. Their breakthrough, ''Images and Words'', was released in 1992 and peaked at #61 in the United States. Nobody had any facial hair. Compare that to 2007's ''Systematic Chaos'', their first Top 20 album (#19) and 2009's ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'', their first Top 10 (#6) which by then, everyone except Myung is more often seen with big beards and other facial hair.



** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it).

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** The band's output as a whole, really. They're either some of the most brilliant musical geniuses of the past thirty years or they're absurdly self-obsessed and pretentious and can't write a memorable song to save their lives. James [=LaBrie=]'s vocals can qualify as this trope even for people who like the band; it's not too difficult to find people who would prefer them as an instrumental act. To be fair to [=LaBrie=], his vocals before his vocal cord injury in the mid-'90s (particularly on ''Awake'' and ''A Change of Seasons'') are generally quite well liked, and he is also generally considered to have improved since his initial work after his injury (his work on ''Falling into Infinity'' seems to have gotten the worst of it).it; many fans are back to praising has work as early as on ''Scenes from a Memory'').


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* TearJerker: [[TearJerker/DreamTheater Have their own page]], and they've really, ''really'' earned it.
8th Jan '17 10:46:54 AM CassandraLeo
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* LargeHam: The ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' album treats us to thunder, dissonant piano, heavy guitars, choirs, and organs. Oh, and that's just in the first minute of over an hour of music.
8th Jan '17 10:06:22 AM CassandraLeo
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* NightmareFuel:
** "Caught in a Web" can ''really'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCPdhom8V4 inspire this sort of thing]].
** Their cover of "Flick of the Wrist" by {{Queen}} on the special edition of ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' too, specifically the way James [=LaBrie=] sings the verses.
** [[spoiler: Open your eyes, Nicholas. AHH! *record scratch* *static*]]
** Made even worse when you remember that [[spoiler: several songs earlier Nicholas mentioned having a wife and son.]]

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* NightmareFuel:
** "Caught in a Web" can ''really'' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCPdhom8V4 inspire this sort of thing]].
** Their cover of "Flick of the Wrist" by {{Queen}} on the special edition of ''Black Clouds & Silver Linings'' too, specifically the way James [=LaBrie=] sings the verses.
** [[spoiler: Open your eyes, Nicholas. AHH! *record scratch* *static*]]
** Made even worse when you remember that [[spoiler: several songs earlier Nicholas mentioned having a wife and son.]]
NightmareFuel: They have [[NightmareFuel/DreamTheater their own page]].
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