History YMMV / DrakeAndJosh

7th Apr '17 12:05:19 PM PrincessGwen
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* CreatorsPet: Megan being a massive Jerkass who made her brothers miserable for no reason yet got away with everything and infuriated the fandom to the point they legitimately wanted her killed off. For some reason, Dan was completely unaware of this.

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* CreatorsPet: Megan being a massive Jerkass {{Jerkass}} who made her brothers miserable for no reason yet got away with everything and infuriated the fandom to the point they legitimately wanted her killed off. For some reason, Dan was completely unaware of this.



* TheScrappy: [[BrattyHalfPint Megan]] is hated by many. She's a Villain in a show without any heroes, so all her schemes target her two brothers, Drake and [[ButtMonkey Josh]]. Megan never gets caught, never gets punished, and there are quite a few examples of her benefiting from her schemes, just plain coming out on top in an episode she's barely in. The writers tried to balance this out by giving Drake and Josh a few KickTheDog moments towards her, making her schemes more DisproportionateRetribution than anything, but by then Drake and Josh's pranks were seen as [[PayEvilUntoEvil justified revenge]] for everything she had done to them so far.It doesn't help as well that Megan basically was the [[FollowTheLeader instigator]] for [[Series/{{iCarly}} later]] [[Series/{{Victorious}} characters]] that have the '''same behavior''' as Megan in Dan's shows after this one.
** After {{Flanderization}} Drake becomes a Scrappy. He becomes near sociopath while his intelligence drops to the point where you question how he can even get ''dressed'' in the morning.

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* TheScrappy: [[BrattyHalfPint Megan]] is hated by many. She's a Villain villain in a show without any heroes, so all her schemes target her two brothers, Drake and [[ButtMonkey Josh]]. Megan never gets caught, never gets punished, and there are quite a few examples of her benefiting from her schemes, just plain coming out on top in an episode she's barely in. The writers tried to balance this out by giving Drake and Josh a few KickTheDog moments towards her, making her schemes more DisproportionateRetribution than anything, but by then Drake and Josh's pranks were seen as [[PayEvilUntoEvil justified revenge]] for everything she had done to them so far. It doesn't help as well that Megan basically was the [[FollowTheLeader instigator]] for [[Series/{{iCarly}} later]] [[Series/{{Victorious}} characters]] that have the '''same behavior''' as Megan in Dan's shows after this one.
** After {{Flanderization}} Drake becomes a Scrappy. He becomes a near sociopath while his intelligence drops to the point where you question how he can even get ''dressed'' in the morning.
7th Apr '17 3:31:28 AM annette12
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* MoralEventHorizon: Megan has crossed this line somewhere, it's just hard to pick an episode.
6th Apr '17 8:33:50 PM RoarkTenjouin
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*** Earlier in the episode, he mentions that "If he invited Drake, he had to invite Josh as well'', implying that if he hadn't invited Drake, he wouldn't have invited Josh in the first place. However, that doesn't excuse him uninviting Josh, as the latter's responsible nature (and [[BadLiar inability to tell a lie]]) would likely have prevented him from bringing Drake along with him if Thornton had simply asked Josh not to.



*** You'd expect: That Josh would see through this, keep his phone away and try to get him and Drake out of there while Favisham was distracted.
*** Instead: When Favisham opens the door, he holds his phone out, and Favisham takes it then proceeds to lock the door again. Seriously, you can ''immediately'' tell that things are going to go bad right when he opens the door. Drake even {{lampshade|Hanging}}s this by saying, [[SarcasmMode "Yeah, nice going, BLUETOOTH!"]]

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*** You'd expect: '''You'd Expect''': That Josh would see through this, keep his phone away and try to get him and Drake out of there while Favisham was distracted.
*** Instead: '''Instead''': When Favisham opens the door, he holds his phone out, and Favisham takes it then proceeds to lock the door again. Seriously, you can ''immediately'' tell that things are going to go bad right when he opens the door. Drake even {{lampshade|Hanging}}s this by saying, [[SarcasmMode "Yeah, nice going, BLUETOOTH!"]]



*** You'd expect: One of them should keep a close eye on her just in case she tries to get them back for this.
*** Instead: They just prank her with all they got. Megan gets back at them by hiring someone to dress up as an alien.

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*** You'd expect: '''You'd expect''': One of them should keep a close eye on her just in case she tries to get them back for this.
*** Instead: '''Instead''': They just prank her with all they got. Megan gets back at them by hiring someone to dress up as an alien.



*** You'd expect: In the case that Megan might be using it for a bigger plan, and especially after they research it on the Internet and find out that the Peruvian Puff Pepper is only available in "South Am-ar-eek-a," that Drake and Josh would throw it away or sell it to somebody else taking part in the contest.
*** Instead: They decide to use it in their Salsa, and when it's revealed that the Peruvian Puff Pepper causes kidney failure and chapped lips, they are disqualified. Thus, [[TheBadGuyWins Megan wins once more]].

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*** You'd expect: '''You'd expect''': In the case that Megan might be using it for a bigger plan, and especially after they research it on the Internet and find out that the Peruvian Puff Pepper is only available in "South Am-ar-eek-a," that Drake and Josh would throw it away or sell it to somebody else taking part in the contest.
*** Instead: '''Instead''': They decide to use it in their Salsa, and when it's revealed that the Peruvian Puff Pepper causes kidney failure and chapped lips, they are disqualified. Thus, [[TheBadGuyWins Megan wins once more]].



*** You'd Expect: Them to take a picture or three of the room so they have proof.
*** Instead: They tell their parents immediately and Megan switches the room to make them look like liars ruining her room.

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*** You'd Expect: '''You'd Expect''': Them to take a picture or three of the room so they have proof.
*** Instead: '''Instead''': They tell their parents immediately and Megan switches the room to make them look like liars ruining her room.



*** You'd Expect: For Josh to keep quiet, wait, and then use his phone to call the police to save himself and Drake.
*** Instead: He doesn't hide his phone, and one of the bad guys walk into the room that Drake and Josh are in, takes his phone, and walks out. [[SarcasmMode Way to go there, Josh.]]

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*** You'd Expect: '''You'd Expect''': For Josh to keep quiet, wait, and then use his phone to call the police to save himself and Drake.
*** Instead: '''Instead''': He doesn't hide his phone, and one of the bad guys walk into the room that Drake and Josh are in, takes his phone, and walks out. [[SarcasmMode Way to go there, Josh.]]
14th Feb '17 7:11:26 PM Awesomekid42
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** [[SpoiledBrat Thornton]] from "Battle Of Panthatar" for uninviting Drake from his 16th birthday party for [[DisproportionateRetribution kissing his girlfriend when he didn't even know she was his girlfriend]], uninviting Josh for absolutely no reason at all, AND [[UngratefulBastard still refusing to let them into the party when they present him with a great present]] (Drake's beloved Abbey Road album). Then again, he may have been intended to be a HateSink.

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** [[SpoiledBrat Thornton]] from "Battle Of Panthatar" for uninviting Drake from his 16th birthday party for [[DisproportionateRetribution kissing his girlfriend when he didn't even know she was his girlfriend]], girlfriend, [[GuiltByAssociationGag uninviting Josh for absolutely no reason at all, all]], AND [[UngratefulBastard still refusing to let them into the party when they present him with a great present]] (Drake's beloved Abbey Road album). Then again, he may have been intended to be a HateSink.
19th Dec '16 11:37:12 AM NWolfman
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* FanficFuel: We never hear any word of Drake's biological father or Josh's biological mother or why their respective parents were single to begin with. Who were they and how did Drake and Josh's respective parents wind up single?

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* FanficFuel: We never hear any word of Drake's biological father or Josh's biological mother mother, or why their respective parents were single to begin with. Who were they and how did Drake and Josh's respective parents wind up single?
19th Dec '16 11:36:36 AM NWolfman
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* FanficFuel: We never hear any word of Drake's biological father or Josh's biological mother or why their respective parents were single to begin with. Who were they and how did Drake and Josh's respective parents wind up single?
2nd Sep '16 5:59:50 PM annette12
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* TheCastShowoff: Drake Bell. It is as if the audience needs to be constantly reminded that Drake Bell has a music career.
* CreatorsPet: Megan being a massive JerkSue who made her brothers miserable for no reason yet got away with everything and infuriated the fandom to the point they legitimately wanted her killed off. For some reason, Dan was completely unaware of this.

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* TheCastShowoff: Drake Bell. It is as if the audience needs to be constantly reminded that Drake Bell has a music career.
* CreatorsPet: Megan being a massive JerkSue Jerkass who made her brothers miserable for no reason yet got away with everything and infuriated the fandom to the point they legitimately wanted her killed off. For some reason, Dan was completely unaware of this.



* TheScrappy: [[BrattyHalfPint Megan]] is hated by many. She's a VillainSue in a show without any heroes, so all her schemes target her two brothers, Drake and [[ButtMonkey Josh]]. Megan never gets caught, never gets punished, and there are quite a few examples of her benefiting from her schemes, just plain coming out on top in an episode she's barely in. The writers tried to balance this out by giving Drake and Josh a few KickTheDog moments towards her, making her schemes more DisproportionateRetribution than anything, but by then Drake and Josh's pranks were seen as [[PayEvilUntoEvil justified revenge]] for everything she had done to them so far.It doesn't help as well that Megan basically was the [[FollowTheLeader instigator]] for [[Series/{{iCarly}} later]] [[Series/{{Victorious}} characters]] that have the '''same behavior''' as Megan in Dan's shows after this one.

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* TheScrappy: [[BrattyHalfPint Megan]] is hated by many. She's a VillainSue Villain in a show without any heroes, so all her schemes target her two brothers, Drake and [[ButtMonkey Josh]]. Megan never gets caught, never gets punished, and there are quite a few examples of her benefiting from her schemes, just plain coming out on top in an episode she's barely in. The writers tried to balance this out by giving Drake and Josh a few KickTheDog moments towards her, making her schemes more DisproportionateRetribution than anything, but by then Drake and Josh's pranks were seen as [[PayEvilUntoEvil justified revenge]] for everything she had done to them so far.It doesn't help as well that Megan basically was the [[FollowTheLeader instigator]] for [[Series/{{iCarly}} later]] [[Series/{{Victorious}} characters]] that have the '''same behavior''' as Megan in Dan's shows after this one.
3rd Aug '16 6:46:34 AM JC96
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** Josh teaching Megan's class with those college textbooks, at the dismay of the students and along with an [[WhatTheHellHero unamiously certain but obvious reaction from many viewers who watched that episode.]] But when you think about it, the kids had an promising advantage to obtain some early head-start, college-advanced knowledge, as most freshmen on a regular basis are dumbfounded there's more to the four core main subjects than they were taught K-12.

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** Josh teaching Megan's class with those college textbooks, at the dismay of the students and along with an [[WhatTheHellHero unamiously unanimously certain but obvious reaction from many viewers who watched that episode.]] But when you think about it, the kids had an a promising advantage to obtain some early head-start, college-advanced knowledge, as most freshmen on a regular basis are some of them heading into college years later would've been dumbfounded there's more to the four core main subjects than they were taught K-12.K-12. And yes, they'll probably get that old "High school nor middle school never taught you this" saying.
1st Aug '16 4:24:28 PM JC96
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* HarsherInHindsight: Josh teaching Megan's class with those college textbooks, at the dismay of the students and along with an [[WhatTheHellHero unamiously certain but obvious reaction from many viewers who watched that episode.]] But when you think about it, the kids had an promising advantage to obtain some early head-start, college-advanced knowledge, as most freshmen on a regular basis are dumbfounded there's more to the four core main subjects than they were taught K-12.

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* HarsherInHindsight: ** Josh teaching Megan's class with those college textbooks, at the dismay of the students and along with an [[WhatTheHellHero unamiously certain but obvious reaction from many viewers who watched that episode.]] ]] But when you think about it, the kids had an promising advantage to obtain some early head-start, college-advanced knowledge, as most freshmen on a regular basis are dumbfounded there's more to the four core main subjects than they were taught K-12.
1st Aug '16 4:21:32 PM JC96
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* HarsherInHindsight: Josh teaching Megan's class with those college textbooks, at the dismay of the students and along with an [[WhatTheHellHero unamiously certain but obvious reaction from many viewers who watched that episode.]] But when you think about it, the kids had an promising advantage to obtain some early head-start, college-advanced knowledge, as most freshmen on a regular basis are dumbfounded there's more to the four core main subjects than they were taught K-12.
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