History YMMV / DragonsRidersOfBerk

24th Jul '16 9:45:47 AM Julia1984
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* InformedFlaw: In Season 5, the dragon riders repeatedly mention how "obsessed" Hiccup has become with beating Viggo. The way they'd talk, you'd think he was turning into [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans Robin after the latter met Slade]] or Harry Potter in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Book 6]]. Outside of easily falling for a relatively obvious trap of Viggo's, however, Hiccup ''never'' acts darker, out of character, or any more "obsessed" with this villain than he has with any others; there's nothing out of character, excessive, or unjustifiable about the level of determination he shows or effort he puts into fighting him.

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* InformedFlaw: In Season 5, the dragon riders repeatedly mention how "obsessed" Hiccup has become with beating Viggo. The way they'd they talk, you'd think he was turning into [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans Robin after the latter met Slade]] or Harry Potter in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Book 6]]. Outside of easily falling for a relatively obvious trap of Viggo's, however, Hiccup ''never'' acts darker, out of character, or any more "obsessed" with this villain than he has with any others; there's nothing out of character, excessive, or unjustifiable about the level of determination he shows or effort he puts into fighting him.



** Hiccup shouting, "I HATE YOU, DAGUR, I HATE YOU!" in "Enemy of my Enemy" like a 5-year-old yelling at their parents.

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** Hiccup shouting, shouting at Dagur, "I HATE YOU, DAGUR, YOU HEAR ME?! I HATE YOU!" in "Enemy of my Enemy" like a 5-year-old yelling at their parents.
15th Jul '16 8:52:21 AM Julia1984
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* InformedFlaw: In Season 5, the dragon riders repeatedly mention how "obsessed" Hiccup has become with beating Viggo. The way they'd talk, you'd think he was turning into [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans Robin after the latter met Slade]] or Harry Potter in [[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Book 6]]. Outside of easily falling for a relatively obvious trap of Viggo's, however, Hiccup ''never'' acts darker, out of character, or any more "obsessed" with this villain than he has with any others; there's nothing out of character, excessive, or unjustifiable about the level of determination he shows or effort he puts into fighting him.
14th Jul '16 9:20:05 AM Julia1984
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** The hints that Dagur killed his father came across as [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar "you know what we mean, but the censors won't allow us to say it outright,"]] not as "the audience is supposed to wonder if he did it or not." So the revelation in Season 5 that [[spoiler:he didn't kill his father after all seems like a RetCon to make the character more sympathetic and his [[EvenEvilHasStandards deep respect for blood ties regarding his sister]] not seem out of character.]] [[TropesAreNotBad Not that any fans are complaining.]]
12th Jul '16 5:11:35 PM Crofty666
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** "Stryke Out" has a scene showing the matches from Toothless' point of view, that point of view? Exactly the same as when he was being mind-controlled by the Bewilderbeast to attack Hiccup.
11th Jul '16 2:53:07 PM Julia1984
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* HoYay:
** In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment in season three, Ruffnut blatantly starts coming on to Heather. She leans against the wall in the possessive bad-boy flirtation pose and everything.

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* HoYay:
** In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment in season three, Ruffnut blatantly starts coming on to Heather. She leans against the wall in the possessive bad-boy flirtation pose and everything.
HoYay: [[HoYay/DragonsRidersOfBerk See here.]]
11th Jul '16 2:51:28 PM Julia1984
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** Heather received hate before she even debuted. When it was said that she might "threaten Hiccup's love for Astrid", the shippers went nuts. This became HilariousInHindsight once she actually showed up, not only in that she treated Hiccup more or less like all the other boys, but in that "Heather Report 1 & 2" is more about Heather's relationship with Astrid than her relationship with Hiccup. Not to mention when Heather is leaving Berk she totally ignores that Hiccup clearly has his arms open for a hug, just saying goodbye to him while still hugging Toothless and Astrid. Really, she's more likely to interfere with Hiccup/Astrid due to LesYay with Astrid than stealing Hiccup away! It happens again when she returns in season three, with a similar result: The girls having a RomanticTwoGirlFriendship that you half expect to get a RelationshipUpgrade.

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** Heather received hate before she even debuted. When it was said that she might "threaten Hiccup's love for Astrid", the shippers went nuts. This became HilariousInHindsight once she actually showed up, not only in that she treated Hiccup more or less like all the other boys, but in that "Heather Report 1 & 2" is more about Heather's relationship with Astrid than her relationship with Hiccup. Not to mention when Heather is leaving Berk she totally ignores that Hiccup clearly has his arms open up -- see HoYay for a hug, just saying goodbye to him while still hugging Toothless and Astrid. Really, she's more likely to interfere with Hiccup/Astrid due to LesYay with Astrid than stealing Hiccup away! It happens again when she returns in season three, with a similar result: The girls having a RomanticTwoGirlFriendship that you half expect to get a RelationshipUpgrade.why...



** Astrid and Heather had some LesYay in season one, but season three turns it UpToEleven. The two become so close you would think they had been best friends since birth. Season four had one conversation that if taken out of context[[note]]Heather is a ReverseMole and Hiccup doesn't know it[[/note]] made it sound like the two were having an affair behind Hiccup's back.
11th Jul '16 1:07:59 PM Julia1984
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* FoeYay: Between Dagur and Hiccup every time they interact, starting in "The Night and the Fury"; lampshaded by the latter as being rather uncomfortable. Indeed, at the end of the episode, Dagur seems more upset by Hiccup personally betraying him than Berk's possession of domesticated dragons. Just ''look'' at Dagur's behavior as well! He wanted to spend time with Hiccup and gets annoyed when his friends keep showing up, is angry upon learning of the bond between Hiccup and his bond (implying clingy possessiveness), and mentioned he couldn't stop thinking about him ever since the Berk incident. He wants Hiccup to "kiss his boots" in one episode, and obsesses over it. Get's even more blatant in ''Race To The Edge'', when Dagur sets up a SadisticChoice he is actually disappointed Hiccup would choose to rescue his friends over fighting him.



** ''Race To The Edge'' gives more than a little HomoeroticSubtext between Snotlout and Thor Bonecrusher, [[spoiler: AKA hypnotized Fishlegs]], Astrid even says Snotlout is in love with him, and when [[spoiler: Fishlegs returns to normal]] Snotlout kisses him on the cheek and says Bonecrusher broke his heart.



** Snotlout and Tuffnut have a bromance after going into battle riding Barf and Belch. They even have a secret man-cave together to get alone time from the others.
7th Jul '16 6:30:29 AM Julia1984
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** Hiccup shouting, "I HATE YOU, DAGUR, I HATE YOU!" in "Enemy of my Enemy" like a 5-year-old yelling at their parents.
2nd Jul '16 3:29:43 PM creader
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* NightmareFuel:
** The Screaming Death is a mutated Whispering Death, second only to the Red Death in terms of size, and one of the most dangerous dragons seen. It's even in-universe Nightmare Fuel for the dragon riders and they can be seen clearly terrified every time it shows up.
** Dagur casually recounting what are probably his father's last words, begging Dagur to put down an axe. And then offering to help Hiccup off Stoick. Hell, Dagur in general, a violence-prone teenager who commands an armada and is hellbent on hurting the heroes, even taking command of the previous villain's men by seemingly dispatching him. TeensAreMonsters indeed.
** ''Race to the Edge'' gives us [[spoiler: the Death Song, a dragon that lures other dragons in with its siren song and then imprisons them in hardening amber so it can easily devour them. If the pile of bones from its past victims isn't bad enough, we see it carry various dragons off to their doom ''on screen''. What's more, the Deathsong is STILL OUT THERE. Last we see of it, the gang sealed it in a cave, but Hiccup himself states that it might not hold. To add salt to the wound, it's likely that there's an entire SPECIES of it.]]
** In ''Race to the Edge'', the [[{{MacGuffin}} Dragon Eye]] that Hiccup finds initially releases gas that causes Tuffnut to go into a seizure. No one bats an eye, but anyone who has witnessed seizures would find it troubling to see.
** ''Race to the Edge''[='=]s two-parter, Maces & Talons, has an [[spoiler:outgambitted Hiccup screaming out of frustration of losing the Dragon Eye to Viggo]]. What makes this more unnerving besides hearing [[spoiler:the normally happy-go-lucky guy scream like a berserker? The fact that his scream sounded eeriely similar to ''[[WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon2 Drago]]'''s scream.]]
** Also in Maces & Talons, the way that Viggo has one of the Dragon Hunter mooks disposed of. We don't see it, but the scream is truly nightmarish.
** "Buffalord Soldier" gives us another for Viggo--not only was he willing to spread a centuries-old plague just so he could get rich off of a cure, he infected one of his own fishing ships to begin the spread.
2nd Jul '16 2:55:46 PM creader
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** "A Grim Retreat" becomes even more distressing since [[spoiler:the scene with a mind-controlled Toothless about to kill Hiccup happened in HHTYD 2, which led to Stoick's death.]]
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