History YMMV / DragonsRidersOfBerk

1st Oct '17 12:30:00 AM Piterpicher
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** Stoick going to consult an unintelligible oracle in "Animal House", after his original voice actor GerardButler was known for doing the same thing in ''Film/ThreeHundred.''

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** Stoick going to consult an unintelligible oracle in "Animal House", after his original voice actor GerardButler Creator/GerardButler was known for doing the same thing in ''Film/ThreeHundred.''
19th Sep '17 8:41:46 AM Julia1984
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** While the plot of the Season 7 finale "Sins of the Past" revolves heavily around the past character Oswald, and there are plenty of people committing sins, the plot has nothing at all to do with anyone's past sins -- there are no sins of the past in "Sins of the Past."
1st Sep '17 4:01:56 PM RandomNumberReactor
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** During the Skrill's second appearance, it's rescued from Dagur and set free. Its never mentioned or heard from again afterwards. Given that Dagur [[spoiler: undergoes a HeelFaceTurn, and later requests a dragon of his own, one would think that him succeeding in taming the formerly volatile Skrill would be a better indicator of his redemption. Nope, he instead gets a Gronkle, a comparably more common dragon]].

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** During the Skrill's second appearance, it's rescued from Dagur and set free. Its never mentioned or heard from again afterwards. Given that Dagur [[spoiler: undergoes a HeelFaceTurn, and later requests a dragon of his own, one would think that him succeeding in taming the formerly volatile Skrill would be a better indicator of his redemption. Nope, he instead gets a Gronkle, Gronckle, a comparably more common dragon]].dragon. Though in Season 7, it's Sleuther who becomes his mount, who is, like Skrill, rather unique and hard to tame.]].
1st Sep '17 3:05:00 PM RandomNumberReactor
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** TheReveal about [[spoiler:Trader Johann]] has split people between those liking the twist because of how unexpected it was, and those despising it because of it introducing many [[PlotHole Plot Holes]] such as [[spoiler:Trader Johann apparently befriending Berkians only as a means to get to King of Dragons, while it was Heather who was in possession of the lens while Johann was on friendly terms with Berk before Heather even appeared in-story]].
30th Aug '17 8:15:00 PM Angeldeb82
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** In season three, we see what look like strange triangles all over ''The Reaper" and in the projections of the Dragon Eye, this is a writing system known as Cuneiform, considered by many historians to be the oldest form of written language in the world, predating even ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs

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** In season three, we see what look like strange triangles all over ''The Reaper" and in the projections of the Dragon Eye, this is a writing system known as Cuneiform, considered by many historians to be the oldest form of written language in the world, predating even ancient Egyptian Hieroglyphs Hieroglyphs.



** Season 3 also has Viggo, whose first appearance was a two parter that [[spoiler:ended in TheBadGuyWins, pulling a XanatosGambit against Hiccup, even when Hiccup began to outwit him.]]
** The very last scene of Season 7 reveals that ''the entire time'' the true biggest one of the show was [[spoiler:Trader Johann, who spent years building trust with the vikings and putting on a LovableCoward act to keep beneath suspicion, all to get his hands on the Dragon Eye lens that Oswald the Agreeable had hidden with Heather.]]

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** Season 3 also has Viggo, whose first appearance was a two parter that [[spoiler:ended in TheBadGuyWins, pulling a XanatosGambit against Hiccup, even when Hiccup began to outwit him.]]
him]].
** The very last scene of Season 7 reveals that ''the entire time'' the true biggest one of the show was [[spoiler:Trader Johann, who spent years building trust with the vikings and putting on a LovableCoward act to keep beneath suspicion, all to get his hands on the Dragon Eye lens that Oswald the Agreeable had hidden with Heather.]]Heather]].



** Alvin himself crosses it by [[spoiler:threatening to kill Heather's parents to force her to be TheMole.]]
** It's heavily implied Dagur crossed this a while back by killing his own father. With an axe, no less. And if that doesn't do it for you, the reveal that [[spoiler: he killed Heather's foster parents and most of her village certainly will.]]

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** Alvin himself crosses it by [[spoiler:threatening to kill Heather's parents to force her to be TheMole.]]
TheMole]].
** It's heavily implied Dagur crossed this a while back by killing his own father. With an axe, no less. And if that doesn't do it for you, the reveal that [[spoiler: he killed Heather's foster parents and most of her village certainly will.]]will]].



** Heather suddenly screaming like a Berserker after [[spoiler: 'reconciling' with Dagur in "Gold Rush" - it sounds entirely out of character. Dagur's own screaming as well, but it's at least part of his [[LargeHam persona]].]]

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** Heather suddenly screaming like a Berserker after [[spoiler: 'reconciling' with Dagur in "Gold Rush" - it sounds entirely out of character. Dagur's own screaming as well, but it's at least part of his [[LargeHam persona]].]]persona]]]].



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** During the Skrill's second appearance, it's rescued from Dagur and set free. Its never mentioned or heard from again afterwards. Given that Dagur [[spoiler: undergoes a HeelFaceTurn, and later requests a dragon of his own, one would think that him succeeding in taming the formerly volatile Skrill would be a better indicator of his redemption. Nope, he instead gets a Gronkle, a comparably more common dragon.]]

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** During the Skrill's second appearance, it's rescued from Dagur and set free. Its never mentioned or heard from again afterwards. Given that Dagur [[spoiler: undergoes a HeelFaceTurn, and later requests a dragon of his own, one would think that him succeeding in taming the formerly volatile Skrill would be a better indicator of his redemption. Nope, he instead gets a Gronkle, a comparably more common dragon.]]dragon]].
30th Aug '17 8:08:38 PM Angeldeb82
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:

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** Mala provides an in-universe in regards to Berk--she [[spoiler: questions whether Hiccup and his riders fly WITH the dragons or have in a way subjugated them via a softer hand.]]

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** Mala provides an in-universe in regards to Berk--she [[spoiler: questions whether Hiccup and his riders fly WITH the dragons or have in a way subjugated them via a softer hand.]]hand]].



** The hints that Dagur killed his father at first seemed to be a case of [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar "you know what we mean, but the censors won't allow us to say it outright"]], particularly after Dagur mentions 'disposing' his father so he could rule in ''Defenders of Berk''. So the revelation in Season 5 that [[spoiler:Dagur did not kill his father]] seems like a RetCon as to make his character more sympathetic and his [[EvenEvilHasStandards deep respect for blood ties]] [[spoiler:regarding Heather]] not seem blatantly out of character. While this and the subsequent character arcs has been [[TropesAreNotBad accepted by some]], others are not so forgiving.
* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeArt Awesome Animation]]: The animation is at times on par with the original movie, which is quite impressive for a weekly animated series.

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** The hints that Dagur killed his father at first seemed to be a case of [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar "you know what we mean, but the censors won't allow us to say it outright"]], particularly after Dagur mentions 'disposing' his father so he could rule in ''Defenders of Berk''. So the revelation in Season 5 that [[spoiler:Dagur did not kill his father]] seems like a RetCon {{Retcon}} as to make his character more sympathetic and his [[EvenEvilHasStandards deep respect for blood ties]] [[spoiler:regarding Heather]] not seem blatantly out of character. While this and the subsequent character arcs has been [[TropesAreNotBad accepted by some]], others are not so forgiving.
* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeArt Awesome Animation]]: SugarWiki/{{Awesome A|rt}}nimation: The animation is at times on par with the original movie, which is quite impressive for a weekly animated series.



** Heather. Her introduction immediately triggered DieForOurShip from the Hiccstrid shippers, more so when she predictably [[spoiler:turned out to be TheMole for Alvin, only to redeem herself on saving the riders to rescue her parents]]. Quite a few fans appreciated her having layers of character depth, and a willingness to play dirty. In ''Race to the Edge'', while she is cooler [[spoiler:with her axe and improved combat skills, as well as taming a dragon whose spines can kill men in one shot]], part of the fanbase points out that, like most MarySue characters, [[spoiler:she makes a lot of mistakes in her initial episodes, does things the way she wants, and manipulates the riders, but they tend to treat her well.]]

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** Heather. Her introduction immediately triggered DieForOurShip from the Hiccstrid shippers, more so when she predictably [[spoiler:turned out to be TheMole for Alvin, only to redeem herself on saving the riders to rescue her parents]]. Quite a few fans appreciated her having layers of character depth, and a willingness to play dirty. In ''Race to the Edge'', while she is cooler [[spoiler:with her axe and improved combat skills, as well as taming a dragon whose spines can kill men in one shot]], part of the fanbase points out that, like most MarySue Mary Sue characters, [[spoiler:she makes a lot of mistakes in her initial episodes, does things the way she wants, and manipulates the riders, but they tend to treat her well.]]



** "A Grim Retreat" becomes even more distressing since [[spoiler:the scene with a mind-controlled Toothless about to kill Hiccup happened in HHTYD 2, which led to Stoick's death.]]

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** "A Grim Retreat" becomes even more distressing since [[spoiler:the scene with a mind-controlled Toothless about to kill Hiccup happened in HHTYD 2, which led to Stoick's death.]]death]].



** In the light of [[spoiler:TheReveal about [[EvilAllAlong Trader Johann]], ''every episode'' where his appearance is central. Special mention goes to Edge of Disaster two-parter in Season 4, because this revelation means that attack on the Edge while Hiccup, Fishlegs and Snotlout were away wasn't simple coincidence.]]

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** In the light of [[spoiler:TheReveal about [[EvilAllAlong Trader Johann]], ''every episode'' where his appearance is central. Special mention goes to Edge of Disaster two-parter in Season 4, because this revelation means that attack on the Edge while Hiccup, Fishlegs and Snotlout were away wasn't simple coincidence.]]coincidence]].



** Though to be fair, it was only the [[TheDitz Twins]] [[BookDumb themselves]] (besides their dragon) who were in the situation so...

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** Though to be fair, it was only the [[TheDitz Twins]] {{T|heDitz}}wins [[BookDumb themselves]] (besides their dragon) who were in the situation so...



** Ryker is treated like the DumbMuscle [[BrainsAndBrawn brawn]] to his BadassBookworm brother's [[BrainsAndBrawn brains]], yet he manages to outsmart Hiccup in both "Night of the Hunters" and "Snow Way Out," both of which also feature him getting the upper hand at some point due to his significant knowledge of dragons. He's actually such an intelligent adversary, it's no wonder Hiccup originally concluded ''he'' was the leader of the dragon hunters.

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** Ryker is treated like the DumbMuscle [[BrainsAndBrawn brawn]] {{bra|insAndBrawn}}wn to his BadassBookworm brother's [[BrainsAndBrawn brains]], {{brains|AndBrawn}}, yet he manages to outsmart Hiccup in both "Night of the Hunters" and "Snow Way Out," both of which also feature him getting the upper hand at some point due to his significant knowledge of dragons. He's actually such an intelligent adversary, it's no wonder Hiccup originally concluded ''he'' was the leader of the dragon hunters.
28th Aug '17 12:11:14 PM RandomNumberReactor
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** In the light of [[spoiler:Reveal about [[EvilAllAlong Trader Johann]], every season where his appearance is central. Special mention goes to Edge of Disaster two-parter in Season 4, because this revelation means that attack on the Edge while Hiccup, Fishlegs and Snotlout were away wasn't simple coincidence.]]

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** In the light of [[spoiler:Reveal [[spoiler:TheReveal about [[EvilAllAlong Trader Johann]], every season ''every episode'' where his appearance is central. Special mention goes to Edge of Disaster two-parter in Season 4, because this revelation means that attack on the Edge while Hiccup, Fishlegs and Snotlout were away wasn't simple coincidence.]]
28th Aug '17 12:07:09 PM RandomNumberReactor
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** In the light of [[spoiler:Reveal about [[EvilAllAlong Trader Johann]], every season where his appearance is central. Special mention goes to Edge of Disaster two-parter in Season 4, because this revelation means that attack on the Edge while Hiccup, Fishlegs and Snotlout were away wasn't simple coincidence.]]
26th Aug '17 5:29:57 PM Pren
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* RewatchBonus: While it's questionable just how far ahead the twist was planned, the reveal at the end of Season 7 that [[spoiler:Trader Johann is actually a bad guy who's been using ObfuscatingStupidity with the vikings]] puts a ''lot'' of stuff in a different light.
26th Aug '17 5:20:32 PM Pren
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** The very last scene of Season 7 reveals that ''the entire time'' the true biggest one of the show was [[spoiler:Trader Johann, who spent years building trust with the vikings and putting on a LovableCoward act to keep beneath suspicion, all to get his hands on the Dragon Eye lens that Oswald the Agreeable had hidden with Heather.]]
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