History YMMV / DragonQuestV

1st Apr '17 9:07:16 PM Heartlesswithaheart
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* GoodBadBugs / PortingDisaster: The Playstation 2 version is so incredibly broken that it's possible to skip 95% of the plot, walk past of the majority that isn't skipped, and "kill" the final boss by running away from it, since the game reads that as winning the battle. Since choosing who to marry is skipped, the game unsurprisingly defaults to Bianca.
31st Jan '17 5:04:19 PM simonscot
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* CompleteMonster: Bishop Ladja, despite only being TheDragon, becomes one of the vilest characters in the Dragon Quest series in [[UpdatedRerelease the DS remake]]. He specializes in committing an even more horrific atrocity than his last in most of his appearances. His first scene alone has him brutally beating the hero and Harry ([[WouldHurtAChild who are six years old at the time]]) to within an inch of their lives, laughing sadistically all the while. Then, when the hero's father, Pankraz, arrives to save the day, he threatens to murder the hero if Pankraz tries to fight back against his enforcers. After the enforcers are done beating him, Ladja coldly finishes off the dying Pankraz with a giant fireball, then carts the hero and Harry off to a brutal slave labor camp for over ten years. He's also at least somewhat successful at being TheStarscream, killing off one person ahead of him (King Korol) in the chain of command for the power. Finally, he makes sure to wait until the main character reunites with his mother (after over 18 years apart) to kill said mother, just for maximum emotional impact.

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* CompleteMonster: Bishop Ladja, despite only being TheDragon, becomes one of the vilest characters in the Dragon Quest series in [[UpdatedRerelease the DS remake]]. He specializes in committing an even more horrific atrocity than his last in most of his appearances. His first scene alone has him brutally beating the hero and Harry ([[WouldHurtAChild who are six years old at the time]]) to within an inch of their lives, laughing sadistically all the while. Then, [[spoiler: when the hero's father, Pankraz, arrives to save the day, he threatens to murder the hero if Pankraz tries to fight back against his enforcers. After the enforcers are done beating him, Ladja coldly finishes off the dying Pankraz with a giant fireball, then carts the hero and Harry off to a brutal slave labor camp for over ten years. He's also at least somewhat successful at being TheStarscream, killing off one person ahead of him (King Korol) in the chain of command for the power. Finally, he makes sure to wait until the main character reunites with his mother (after over 18 years apart) to kill said mother, just for maximum emotional impact.]]
18th Jan '17 7:22:20 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ladja in the original game, with his initial MoralEventHorizon when he first appears seem like a great way to set him up as a major villain, but he ends up being nothing more than a flunky for King Korol, whose actions have far less of an emotional impact on the player.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Ladja in the original game, with his initial MoralEventHorizon when he first appears seem like a great way to set him up as a major villain, but he ends up being nothing more than a flunky for King Korol, whose actions have far less of an emotional impact on the player. Thankfully, his role is expanded in the remake.
24th May '16 3:52:43 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* PuritySue: In any other game, Nera would be this. Absolutely everyone she comes into contact with, including an abbey of nuns that mention they've learned more from her than she did from them, can't help but talk about how beautiful and pure she is. Despite this, the game heavily suggests you marry Bianca rather than Nera.
7th May '16 9:34:15 PM Tavernier
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Inverted. The game very obviously always intended for the Hero to marry Bianca... which raises the question of why it included any choice of potential bride at all.
1st Feb '16 2:05:27 PM lalalei2001
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** Despite being added into the DS version as a "joke character", many players pick Deborah as the protagonist's wife for her [[MsFanservice looks]], HiddenHeartOfGold (which becomes more obvious late in the game in party conversations) and for having some of the funniest dialogue in the game (such as when she tells the priest blessing their wedding to hurry up with his speech).

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** Despite being added into the DS version as a "joke character", many Many players pick Deborah as the protagonist's wife for her [[MsFanservice looks]], HiddenHeartOfGold (which becomes more obvious late in the game in party conversations) and for having some of the funniest dialogue in the game (such as when she tells the priest blessing their wedding to hurry up with his speech).



* RelationshipWritingFumble: A rather strange example centered on the FridgeLogic of the romance angle itself. The original game very clearly wanted to have the central relationship of the story between the hero and Bianca, a clear case of ChildhoodFriendRomance... which raises the question of why make the hero choose a bride ''at all''. The choice doesn't particularly affect anything except to introduce [[GuiltBasedGaming a rather pointless and cruel]] BadEnd to the intended arc. The oddity of the very premise is emphasized by adding Deborah to the remake, generally ensuring that, no matter -whom- you choose, somebody will be walking away from the situation unhappy.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Nera goes from a worthless party member who triggers the MOTHER of GuiltBasedGaming if you '''dare''' choose her over Bianca in the original version, to a completely viable romance option who doesn't unintentionally ruin the Whitaker family if chosen in the remake.
1st Feb '16 1:54:23 PM Tavernier
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* RelationshipWritingFumble: A rather strange example centered on the FridgeLogic of the romance angle itself. The original game very clearly wanted to have the central relationship of the story between the hero and Bianca, a clear case of ChildhoodFriendRomance... which raises the question of why make the hero choose a bride ''at all''. The choice doesn't particularly affect anything except to introduce [[GuiltBasedGaming a rather pointless and cruel]] BadEnd to the intended arc. The oddity of the very premise is emphasized by adding Deborah to the remake, generally ensuring that, no matter -whom- you choose, somebody will be walking away from the situation unhappy.
24th Oct '15 2:13:59 PM Cakeman
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* BreatherBoss: Grandmaster Nimzo, at least in comparison to other bosses in the franchise. However, he was made harder in the DS version due to players having access to 4 party members instead of merely three.

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* BreatherBoss: Grandmaster Nimzo, at least in comparison to other final bosses in the franchise. However, he was made harder in the DS version due to players having access to 4 party members instead of merely three.
24th Oct '15 2:13:37 PM Cakeman
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* JerkassDissonance: Debora is considered to be an EnsembleDarkhorse despite being abrasive in comparison to Bianca and her sister Nera.
22nd Oct '15 10:47:38 PM Cakeman
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* CompleteMonster: Bishop Ladja, despite only being TheDragon, becomes one of the vilest characters in the series in [[UpdatedRerelease the DS remake]]. He specializes in committing an even more horrific atrocity than his last in most of his appearances. His first scene alone has him brutally beating the hero and Harry ([[WouldHurtAChild who are six years old at the time]]) to within an inch of their lives, laughing sadistically all the while. Then, when the hero's father, Pankraz, arrives to save the day, he threatens to murder the hero if Pankraz tries to fight back against his enforcers. After the enforcers are done beating him, Ladja coldly finishes off the dying Pankraz with a giant fireball, then carts the hero and Harry off to a brutal slave labor camp for over ten years. He's also at least somewhat successful at being TheStarscream, killing off one person ahead of him (King Korol) in the chain of command for the power. Finally, he makes sure to wait until the main character reunites with his mother (after over 18 years apart) to kill said mother, just for maximum emotional impact.

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* CompleteMonster: Bishop Ladja, despite only being TheDragon, becomes one of the vilest characters in the Dragon Quest series in [[UpdatedRerelease the DS remake]]. He specializes in committing an even more horrific atrocity than his last in most of his appearances. His first scene alone has him brutally beating the hero and Harry ([[WouldHurtAChild who are six years old at the time]]) to within an inch of their lives, laughing sadistically all the while. Then, when the hero's father, Pankraz, arrives to save the day, he threatens to murder the hero if Pankraz tries to fight back against his enforcers. After the enforcers are done beating him, Ladja coldly finishes off the dying Pankraz with a giant fireball, then carts the hero and Harry off to a brutal slave labor camp for over ten years. He's also at least somewhat successful at being TheStarscream, killing off one person ahead of him (King Korol) in the chain of command for the power. Finally, he makes sure to wait until the main character reunites with his mother (after over 18 years apart) to kill said mother, just for maximum emotional impact.
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