History YMMV / DragonAge

16th Jan '16 3:33:46 PM Forenperser
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* RonTheDeathEater: Many Mage supporters tend to paint the Chantry, and particularly the Templar Order, as the ultimate source of evil in Thedas. While it is outdated in some aspects and quite a few members like Sister Petrice or Ser Alrik ''are'' a bunch of horrible people, there are many decent people among them too and the conflict is much more [[GreyAndGrayMorality complex]] than just ''evil fanatics trying to oppress the innocent minority''.
15th Oct '15 4:28:33 PM Kimarous
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* FandomRivalry: With fans of Creator/CDProjektRED's VideoGame/TheWitcher adaptations over the protagonist choice, tone, and sexual content mostly. This was mostly in early in 2011, when ''Dragon Age 2'' and ''The Witcher 2'' both came out within the same time space of Early 2011.
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* FandomRivalry: With fans of Creator/CDProjektRED's VideoGame/TheWitcher adaptations over the protagonist choice, tone, and sexual content mostly. This was mostly in early in 2011, when both ''Dragon Age 2'' and ''The Witcher 2'' both came coming out within in the same time space of Early 2011.period, though it has flared up occasionally between ''Dragon Age: Inquisition'' and ''The Witcher 3''.
29th Sep '15 10:31:46 AM VeryMelon
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Since Elf player characters are main characters, they cannot count for this trope.
* CreatorsPet: Some have accused BioWare of giving Elf Player Characters prefrential status, especially in ''Inquisition;'' they commonly have unique racial dialogue, Solas and Sera's romances tie in a lot to the PC's race (In fact, Solas can only be romanced by a female Elf), and the game has numerous options to acomodate for Elf players. Compare and contrast to the Dwarven PCs, who get next to no extra dialogue for their race, and little to no mention of it in the story.
23rd Sep '15 8:41:56 AM GoneRampant
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* CreatorsPet: Some have accused BioWare of giving Elf Player Characters prefrential status, especially in ''Inquisition;'' they commonly have unique racial dialogue, Solas and Sera's romances tie in a lot to the PC's race (In fact, Solas can only be romanced by a female Elf), and the game has numerous options to acomodate for Elf players. Compare and contrast to the Dwarven PCs, who get next to no extra dialogue for their race, and little to no mention of it in the story.
12th Sep '15 10:29:16 AM gunslingerofgilead
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** The Qunari as a whole. Are they the OnlySaneMan species of Dragon Age, a complex, flawed society that, [[GreyAndGrayMorality like most things in]] ''Dragon Age'', can't be defined as right or wrong, or pretentious, self-righteous murderers who deserve to all die? ''Inquisition'' has fanned the flames of this as new insight from Iron Bull downplays several of the negatives.[[note]]You don't get to choose your job, but the actual duties of that job are likely no different than it is for anyone in the same line of work in a different society, offering the chance for downtime. You don't know your blood relations, but you still have friends who're as close to you as a family. There are strict gender roles that keep men and women in their [[StayInTheKitchen respective kitchens]], but you can be declared [[{{Transgender}} Aqun-Athlok]] and allowed to assume a role opposite of your biological gender. You don't have sex for love, but it turns out that they do practice a form of sacred prostitution; free, no attachment sex whenever you want it with whatever gender you prefer in the sack, no more stigmatized than seeing a doctor, and it can get... kinky.[[/note]] Now that they've been cast as the primary villains of the ''Trespasser'' DLC for ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', the debate is likely to reach its breaking point.
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** The Qunari as a whole. Are they the OnlySaneMan species of Dragon Age, a complex, flawed society that, [[GreyAndGrayMorality like most things in]] ''Dragon Age'', can't be defined as right or wrong, or pretentious, self-righteous murderers who deserve to all die? ''Inquisition'' has fanned the flames of this as new insight from Iron Bull downplays several of the negatives.[[note]]You don't get to choose your job, but the actual duties of that job are likely no different than it is for anyone in the same line of work in a different society, offering the chance for downtime. You don't know your blood relations, but you still have friends who're as close to you as a family. There are strict gender roles that keep men and women in their [[StayInTheKitchen respective kitchens]], but you can be declared [[{{Transgender}} Aqun-Athlok]] and allowed to assume a role opposite of your biological gender. You don't have sex for love, but it turns out that they do practice a form of sacred prostitution; free, no attachment sex whenever you want it with whatever gender you prefer in the sack, no more stigmatized than seeing a doctor, and it can get... kinky.[[/note]] Now that they've been cast as the primary villains of the The ''Trespasser'' DLC for ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' cast the Qunari as the primary antagonists, and showed them doing some deeply disturbing and downright villainous things, and seems to indicate that Creator/{{BioWare}} intends them to be bad guys. All this has done is escalate the debate is likely to reach its breaking point.about the Qunari from the fandom's perspective, however.
3rd Sep '15 1:23:59 PM Forenperser
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** Same case about the Tevinter Empire. It is THE textbook example on 'Mages gone bad', with slavery, blood magic and power abuse on a regular basis, yet many people who are Pro Mage and Anti Templar uphold this as a ''positive'' example of Mages being able to govern themselves, which is totally backwards.
30th Aug '15 3:51:10 PM gunslingerofgilead
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** The Qunari as a whole. Are they the OnlySaneMan species of Dragon Age, a complex, flawed society that, [[GreyAndGrayMorality like most things in]] ''Dragon Age'', can't be defined as right or wrong, or pretentious, self-righteous murderers who deserve to all die? ''Inquisition'' has fanned the flames of this as new insight from Iron Bull downplays several of the negatives.[[note]]You don't get to choose your job, but the actual duties of that job are likely no different than it is for anyone in the same line of work in a different society, offering the chance for downtime. You don't know your blood relations, but you still have friends who're as close to you as a family. You don't have sex for love, but it turns out that they do practice a form of sacred prostitution; free, no attachment sex whenever you want it, no more stigmatized than seeing a doctor, and it can get... kinky.[[/note]] Now that they've been cast as the primary villains of the ''Trespasser'' DLC for ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', the debate is likely to reach its breaking point.
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** The Qunari as a whole. Are they the OnlySaneMan species of Dragon Age, a complex, flawed society that, [[GreyAndGrayMorality like most things in]] ''Dragon Age'', can't be defined as right or wrong, or pretentious, self-righteous murderers who deserve to all die? ''Inquisition'' has fanned the flames of this as new insight from Iron Bull downplays several of the negatives.[[note]]You don't get to choose your job, but the actual duties of that job are likely no different than it is for anyone in the same line of work in a different society, offering the chance for downtime. You don't know your blood relations, but you still have friends who're as close to you as a family. There are strict gender roles that keep men and women in their [[StayInTheKitchen respective kitchens]], but you can be declared [[{{Transgender}} Aqun-Athlok]] and allowed to assume a role opposite of your biological gender. You don't have sex for love, but it turns out that they do practice a form of sacred prostitution; free, no attachment sex whenever you want it, it with whatever gender you prefer in the sack, no more stigmatized than seeing a doctor, and it can get... kinky.[[/note]] Now that they've been cast as the primary villains of the ''Trespasser'' DLC for ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', the debate is likely to reach its breaking point.
30th Aug '15 3:47:39 PM gunslingerofgilead
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Qunari society is seen by a large margin of players as superior to the others in the setting due to providing clear metrics of success and failure without ambiguity, being equal with everyone having the same prestige and place as well as being taken care of by the state. These fans also seem to downplay the bad elements of the Qun in their heads. No family, no opportunity to choose one's own role or path in life. You go where you are told and do what you are told. Personal happiness is not a concern. You should be happy in the Qun's role for you. If you are not, then there is no recourse because the problem is ''you''.
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* DracoInLeatherPants: The Qunari society is seen by a large margin of players as superior to the others in the setting due to providing clear metrics of success and failure without ambiguity, being equal with everyone having the same prestige and place as well as being taken care of by the state. These fans also seem to downplay the bad elements of the Qun in their heads. No family, no opportunity to choose one's own role or path in life. You go where you are told and do what you are told. Personal happiness is not a concern. You should be happy in the Qun's role for you. If you are not, then there is no recourse because the problem is ''you''. Enjoy being [[{{Brainwashed}} "re-educated"]] until you either are successfully indoctrinated or are turned into a mindless slave.
30th Aug '15 3:44:48 PM gunslingerofgilead
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** The Qunari as a whole. Are they the OnlySaneMan species of Dragon Age, or pretentious, self-righteous murderers who deserve to all die? ''Inquisition'' has fanned the flames of this as new insight from Iron Bull downplays several of the negatives.[[note]]You don't get to choose your job, but the actual duties of that job are likely no different than it is for anyone in the same line of work in a different society, offering the chance for downtime. You don't know your blood relations, but you still have friends who're as close to you as a family. You don't have sex for love, but it turns out that they do practice a form of sacred prostitution; free, no attachment sex whenever you want it, no more stigmatized than seeing a doctor, and it can get... kinky.[[/note]]
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** The Qunari as a whole. Are they the OnlySaneMan species of Dragon Age, a complex, flawed society that, [[GreyAndGrayMorality like most things in]] ''Dragon Age'', can't be defined as right or wrong, or pretentious, self-righteous murderers who deserve to all die? ''Inquisition'' has fanned the flames of this as new insight from Iron Bull downplays several of the negatives.[[note]]You don't get to choose your job, but the actual duties of that job are likely no different than it is for anyone in the same line of work in a different society, offering the chance for downtime. You don't know your blood relations, but you still have friends who're as close to you as a family. You don't have sex for love, but it turns out that they do practice a form of sacred prostitution; free, no attachment sex whenever you want it, no more stigmatized than seeing a doctor, and it can get... kinky.[[/note]][[/note]] Now that they've been cast as the primary villains of the ''Trespasser'' DLC for ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', the debate is likely to reach its breaking point. *** As of ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', the topic of transgender people among the Qunari. Another layer to Qunari society that makes them seem more progressive and sympathetic, or a cheap AuthorsSavingThrow by Creator/BioWare done in a poor attempt to retcon how they wrote the Qunari as having strict gender roles in earlier games? That it intersects with a sensitive RealLife issue and can easily be construed as carrying UnfortunateImplications doesn't help matters.
6th Jul '15 10:47:55 PM Give1Take2
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* ScrewYouElves: While Thedas elves are a largely enslaved and persecuted minority, many elven fans feel the portrayal of [[RacialRemnant the Dalish]] has gotten less sympathetic with each new installment. [[note]]VideoGame/{{Dragon Age Origins}}' Dalish Clan is wary and snippy of outsiders, but can become much more friendly to a Warden who takes time to help them. The Dalish in ''The Stolen Throne'' seem more savage and hostile to Maric and Loghain. Fenris from VideoGames/DragonAge2 gets quite a few ScrewYouElves in, and Merrill's Clan (also the Dalish Warden's Clan) is ret-conned into being [[AllTheOtherReindeer unreasonably]] ([[TooDumbToLive and suicidally]]) hostile to her. Briala from ''The Masked Empire'' comes across the ''cruelest'' Dalish clan to date; openly racist, xenophobic, and indifferent to the plight of city elves. (They also get a ''gruesome'' FamilyUnfriendlyDeath ([[HarmfulToMinors down to the last child]]), which [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic the narrative]] [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality tries to pass off]] as "[[UnintentionallySympathetic they brought upon themselves]]." Finally, VideoGames/{{Dragon Age Inquisition}}'s Sera and Solas (the two only elven companions) are both BoomerangBigots, many elven side characters are critical of elven culture, and every discovery on elven history and lore seems to be just to [[{{Anvilicious}} hammer home]] how foolish and wrong modern elves (city and Dalish) are about [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance their own history and culture]].[[/note]]
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* ScrewYouElves: While Thedas elves are a largely enslaved and persecuted minority, many elven fans feel the portrayal of [[RacialRemnant the Dalish]] has gotten less sympathetic with each new installment. [[note]]VideoGame/{{Dragon Age Origins}}' Dalish Clan is wary and snippy of outsiders, but can become much more friendly to a Warden who takes time to help them. The Dalish in ''The Stolen Throne'' seem more savage and hostile to Maric and Loghain. Fenris from VideoGames/DragonAge2 gets quite a few ScrewYouElves in, and Merrill's Clan (also the Dalish Warden's Clan) is ret-conned into being [[AllTheOtherReindeer unreasonably]] ([[TooDumbToLive and suicidally]]) hostile to her. Briala from ''The Masked Empire'' comes across the ''cruelest'' Dalish clan to date; openly racist, xenophobic, and indifferent to the plight of city elves. (They also get a ''gruesome'' FamilyUnfriendlyDeath ([[HarmfulToMinors FamilyUnfriendlyDeath, [[HarmfulToMinors down to the last child]]), child]], which [[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic the narrative]] [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality tries to pass off]] as "[[UnintentionallySympathetic they brought upon themselves]]." ") Finally, VideoGames/{{Dragon Age Inquisition}}'s Sera and Solas (the two only elven companions) are both BoomerangBigots, many elven side characters are critical of elven culture, and every discovery on elven history and lore seems to be just to [[{{Anvilicious}} hammer home]] how foolish and wrong modern elves (city and Dalish) are about [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance their own history and culture]].[[/note]]
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