History YMMV / DragonAge

19th Sep '17 3:58:28 PM SorPepita
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* WoobieSpecies: After the elves had their homeland invaded, were enslaved, freed, had their homeland invaded again, and now are either second class citizens or living in the forest, with uneasy relations with humans, it's hard not to pity the elves. Though their descendants certainly suffer greatly, it's heavily implied that the attacks on the Dales weren't unprovoked. The Inquisitor discovers some letters from those involved in the Attack on Red Crossing, which sparked the war against the Dales: [[spoiler:It was a tragic case of PoorCommunicationKills, fueled by years of growing hostility and distrust from both sides.]] Whether or not one feels the war was justified, most Thedas humans now consider the conflict just another footnote in their long history, while the ''entire elven race'' (outside [[EnslavedElves Tevinter]]) is ''still'' being punished for it ''over 700 years later''.

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* WoobieSpecies: After the elves had their homeland invaded, were enslaved, freed, had their homeland invaded again, and now are either second class citizens or living in the forest, with uneasy relations with humans, it's hard not to pity the elves.them. Though their descendants certainly suffer greatly, it's heavily implied that the attacks on the Dales weren't unprovoked. The Inquisitor discovers some letters from those involved in the Attack attack on Red Crossing, which sparked the war against the Dales: [[spoiler:It was a tragic case of PoorCommunicationKills, fueled by years of growing hostility and distrust from both sides.]] Whether or not one feels the war was justified, most Thedas humans now consider the conflict just another footnote in their long history, while the ''entire elven race'' (outside [[EnslavedElves Tevinter]]) is ''still'' being punished for it ''over 700 years later''.
19th Sep '17 3:55:29 PM SorPepita
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* LGBTFanbase: One of the most beloved video game series among the LGBT community thanks to having a wide variety of LGBT characters with different characteristics while generally avoiding [[BuryYourGays typical]] [[{{Gayngst}} gay]] [[NoBisexuals tropes]]. The fact that [[EveryoneIsBi all the love interests are bisexuals]] (barring a DLC party member) in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' have been applauded by the bisexual community as well as having gay, straight, and bisexual love interests in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''.

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* LGBTFanbase: One of the most beloved video game series among the LGBT community thanks to having a wide variety of LGBT characters with different characteristics while generally avoiding [[BuryYourGays typical]] [[{{Gayngst}} gay]] [[NoBisexuals tropes]]. The fact that [[EveryoneIsBi all the love interests are bisexuals]] (barring a DLC party member) in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' have has been applauded by the bisexual community as well as having gay, straight, and bisexual love interests in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''.
19th Sep '17 3:54:22 PM SorPepita
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* FandomRivalry: With fans of Creator/CDProjektRED's VideoGame/TheWitcher adaptations over the protagonist choice, tone, and sexual content mostly. This was mostly in early in 2011, both ''Dragon Age 2'' and ''The Witcher 2'' coming out in the same period, though it has flared up occasionally between ''Dragon Age: Inquisition'' and ''The Witcher 3''.

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* FandomRivalry: With fans of Creator/CDProjektRED's VideoGame/TheWitcher adaptations over the protagonist choice, tone, and sexual content mostly. This was mostly in early in 2011, both ''Dragon Age 2'' and ''The Witcher 2'' coming out in the same period, though it has flared up occasionally between ''Dragon Age: Inquisition'' and ''The Witcher 3''.
17th Sep '17 11:48:10 AM SorPepita
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* MisaimedFandom: It's not uncommon to hear complaints in the fandom over [[OutOfFocus the reduced importance of the Grey Wardens]] in the sequels. This typically comes from those who hold [[FirstInstallmentWins the first game in the highest regard]] and feel that the Wardens should remain the focus of the series. They tend to ignore the fact that even going back to the first game, their only purpose is to fight the Darkspawn and the Blight, and as the franchise grew beyond this initial plot and Wardens were appropriately phased to the background.

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* MisaimedFandom: It's not uncommon to hear complaints in the fandom over [[OutOfFocus the reduced importance of the Grey Wardens]] in the sequels. This typically comes from those who hold [[FirstInstallmentWins the first game in the highest regard]] and feel that the Wardens should remain the focus of the series. They tend to ignore the fact that even going back to the first game, their only purpose is to fight the Darkspawn and the Blight, and as the franchise grew beyond this initial plot and Wardens were appropriately phased to the background.



* UnfortunateImplications: Given that [[WordOfGod Word of Gaider]] [[http://the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/page/17 has admitted that the elves were inspired by Medieval Jews]], and [[EnslavedElves the elves' history of oppression at the hands of humans]] has some [[{{Applicability}} real-world parallels]] to the history of Native Americans and other oppressed minorities, ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'''s rather [[BrokenBase controversial]] revelations about elven history and human/elf relations has left many fans feeling that the implications for the entire franchise are [[http://faerunner.tumblr.com/post/150107961834/biowares-unfortunate-stumble-orientalist rather uncomfortable]], if not [[http://customhawke.tumblr.com/post/125484602754/jewish-elves outright disgusting]].

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* UnfortunateImplications: Given that [[WordOfGod Word of Gaider]] [[http://the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/page/17 has admitted that the elves were inspired by Medieval Jews]], and [[EnslavedElves the elves' history of oppression at the hands of humans]] has some [[{{Applicability}} real-world parallels]] to the history of Native Americans and other oppressed minorities, ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'''s rather [[BrokenBase controversial]] revelations about elven history and human/elf relations has have left many fans feeling that the implications for the entire franchise are [[http://faerunner.tumblr.com/post/150107961834/biowares-unfortunate-stumble-orientalist rather uncomfortable]], if not [[http://customhawke.tumblr.com/post/125484602754/jewish-elves outright disgusting]].
18th Feb '17 8:02:21 PM RomanBowler
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* LGBTFanbase: One of the most beloved video game series among the LGBT community thanks to having a wide variety of LGBT characters with different characteristics while generally avoiding [[BuryYourGays typical]] [[Gaynst gay]] [[NoBisexuals tropes]]. The fact that [[EveryoneIsBi all the love interests are bisexuals]] (barring a DLC party member) in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' have been applauded by the bisexual community as well as having gay, straight, and bisexual love interests in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''.

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* LGBTFanbase: One of the most beloved video game series among the LGBT community thanks to having a wide variety of LGBT characters with different characteristics while generally avoiding [[BuryYourGays typical]] [[Gaynst [[{{Gayngst}} gay]] [[NoBisexuals tropes]]. The fact that [[EveryoneIsBi all the love interests are bisexuals]] (barring a DLC party member) in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' have been applauded by the bisexual community as well as having gay, straight, and bisexual love interests in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''.
18th Feb '17 8:00:17 PM RomanBowler
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LGBTFanbase: One of the most beloved video game series among the LGBT community thanks to having a wide variety of LGBT characters with different characteristics while generally avoiding [[BuryYourGays typical]] [[Gaynst gay]] [[NoBisexuals tropes]]. The fact that [[EveryoneIsBi all the love interests are bisexuals]] (barring a DLC party member) in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' have been applauded by the bisexual community as well as having gay, straight, and bisexual love interests in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''.

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* LGBTFanbase: One of the most beloved video game series among the LGBT community thanks to having a wide variety of LGBT characters with different characteristics while generally avoiding [[BuryYourGays typical]] [[Gaynst gay]] [[NoBisexuals tropes]]. The fact that [[EveryoneIsBi all the love interests are bisexuals]] (barring a DLC party member) in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' have been applauded by the bisexual community as well as having gay, straight, and bisexual love interests in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''.
18th Feb '17 7:59:41 PM RomanBowler
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LGBTFanbase: One of the most beloved video game series among the LGBT community thanks to having a wide variety of LGBT characters with different characteristics while generally avoiding [[BuryYourGays typical]] [[Gaynst gay]] [[NoBisexuals tropes]]. The fact that [[EveryoneIsBi all the love interests are bisexuals]] (barring a DLC party member) in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'' have been applauded by the bisexual community as well as having gay, straight, and bisexual love interests in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition''.
30th Dec '16 2:45:06 PM Give1Take2
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* UnfortunateImplications: Given that [[WordOfGod Word of Gaider]] [[http://the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/page/17 has admitted that the elves were inspired by Medieval Jews]], and [[EnslavedElves the elves' history of oppression at the hands of humans]] has some [[{{Applicability}} real-world parallels]] to the history of Native Americans and other oppressed minorities, ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'''s rather [[BrokenBase controversial]] revelations about elven history and human/elf relations has left many fans feeling that the implications are [[http://faerunner.tumblr.com/post/150107961834/biowares-unfortunate-stumble-orientalist rather uncomfortable]], if not [[http://customhawke.tumblr.com/post/125484602754/jewish-elves outright disgusting]].

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* UnfortunateImplications: Given that [[WordOfGod Word of Gaider]] [[http://the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/page/17 has admitted that the elves were inspired by Medieval Jews]], and [[EnslavedElves the elves' history of oppression at the hands of humans]] has some [[{{Applicability}} real-world parallels]] to the history of Native Americans and other oppressed minorities, ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'''s rather [[BrokenBase controversial]] revelations about elven history and human/elf relations has left many fans feeling that the implications for the entire franchise are [[http://faerunner.tumblr.com/post/150107961834/biowares-unfortunate-stumble-orientalist rather uncomfortable]], if not [[http://customhawke.tumblr.com/post/125484602754/jewish-elves outright disgusting]].
30th Dec '16 1:45:07 PM Give1Take2
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** Dalish haters also tend to paint them as ''all violently'' haughty, elitist, racist, genocidal elven supremacists who want to wipe out or enslave all humans ([[BoomerangBigot and city elves for being]] {{Race Traitor}}s) to spread the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Dalish Master Race]], even though the games have made it clear that most Dalish want just ''one'' nation of their own where they can live in peace away from humans, which is not unreasonable considering how [[EnslavedElves elves are treated in human nations]]. This also ignores how the level of friendliness to and acceptance of outsiders varies from clan to clan and individual to individual, just like people of every other Thedas nation or culture.

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** Dalish haters also tend to paint them as ''all violently'' '''all''' ''violently'' haughty, elitist, racist, genocidal elven supremacists who want to wipe out or enslave all humans ([[BoomerangBigot and city elves for being]] {{Race Traitor}}s) to spread the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Dalish Master Race]], even though the games have made it clear that most Dalish want just ''one'' nation of their own where they can live in peace away from humans, which is not unreasonable considering how [[EnslavedElves elves are treated in human nations]]. This also ignores how the level of friendliness to and acceptance of outsiders varies from clan to clan and individual to individual, just like people of every other Thedas nation or culture.


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* UnfortunateImplications: Given that [[WordOfGod Word of Gaider]] [[http://the-gaider-archives.tumblr.com/page/17 has admitted that the elves were inspired by Medieval Jews]], and [[EnslavedElves the elves' history of oppression at the hands of humans]] has some [[{{Applicability}} real-world parallels]] to the history of Native Americans and other oppressed minorities, ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'''s rather [[BrokenBase controversial]] revelations about elven history and human/elf relations has left many fans feeling that the implications are [[http://faerunner.tumblr.com/post/150107961834/biowares-unfortunate-stumble-orientalist rather uncomfortable]], if not [[http://customhawke.tumblr.com/post/125484602754/jewish-elves outright disgusting]].
21st Jul '16 9:34:01 PM morenohijazo
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** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Bioware initially intended for every playable character to become a Grey Warden potentially. Originally, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Bioware wanted for the taint to infect all of the companions, meaning the player would have to make them into a Grey Warden]]. This mechanic was incorporated into ''[[VideoGame/DragonAgeOriginsAwakening Awakening]]'' in a way, but there are very few consequences gameplaywise for ''not'' making Nathaniel, Velanna, and Sigrun into Grey Wardens save Nathaniel being executed.

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** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', Bioware Creator/BioWare initially intended for every playable character to become a Grey Warden potentially. Originally, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Bioware wanted for the taint to infect all of the companions, meaning the player would have to make them into a Grey Warden]]. This mechanic was incorporated into ''[[VideoGame/DragonAgeOriginsAwakening Awakening]]'' in a way, but there are very few consequences gameplaywise gameplay-wise for ''not'' making Nathaniel, Velanna, and Sigrun into Grey Wardens save Nathaniel being executed.
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