History YMMV / DokiDokiPrecure

28th Aug '17 8:39:38 PM Angeldeb82
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Mana: Is she [[ThePollyanna an eternal optimist]], or just that good at [[StepfordSmiler stepfordism]]?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Mana: Is she [[ThePollyanna an eternal optimist]], or just that good at [[StepfordSmiler stepfordism]]?{{stepford|Smiler}}ism?



* AuthorsSavingThrow: The premise of NonSerialMovie (Mana's getting married to a guy) was this as a response to Mana's LesYay tendencies being overblown by fans. [[SubvertedTrope But in the end, it didn't do much.]]

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The premise of NonSerialMovie (Mana's getting married to a guy) was this as a response to Mana's LesYay [[HoYay Les Yay]] tendencies being overblown by fans. [[SubvertedTrope But in the end, it didn't do much.]]



* AwesomeMusic:

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic:



** People in the fandom either think Mana/Cure Heart is a MarySue who always gets away from actually learning anything because of her PlotArmor or think she's a great, strong protagonist whose flaws are still there even if she manages to push through them every time. There's a reason she gets "[[Wrestling/JohnCena Let's go Mana/Mana sucks!]]"

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** People in the fandom either think Mana/Cure Heart is a MarySue Mary Sue who always gets away from actually learning anything because of her PlotArmor or think she's a great, strong protagonist whose flaws are still there even if she manages to push through them every time. There's a reason she gets "[[Wrestling/JohnCena Let's go Mana/Mana sucks!]]"



** Is the NonSerialMovie canon, or not? While Cure Ace's inclusion is quite tacked on, and [[spoiler:the future everyone visited is lacking some individuals (mainly Joe and Regina)]], it's still possible for it to happen within the series' canon. WordOfGod even went on to clarify some contradictions, and revealed that there was supposed to be a {{Foreshadowing}} to the movie in one of earlier episodes. There are also several [[CanonImmigrant Canon Immigrants]] from the movie in the last three episodes.

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** Is the NonSerialMovie canon, or not? While Cure Ace's inclusion is quite tacked on, and [[spoiler:the future everyone visited is lacking some individuals (mainly Joe and Regina)]], it's still possible for it to happen within the series' canon. WordOfGod even went on to clarify some contradictions, and revealed that there was supposed to be a {{Foreshadowing}} to the movie in one of earlier episodes. There are also several [[CanonImmigrant Canon Immigrants]] {{Canon Immigrant}}s from the movie in the last three episodes.



* ContestedSequel: ''Doki Doki!'' is the most polarizing season in the franchise thus far. Detractors are unhappy with this season due to perceived pacing problems as well as too much focus being given to Mana and Regina at the expense of the other characters, especially Rikka and Alice (albeit not quite to the extent the [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure previous]] [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure two seasons]]), while fans love the season for being DarkerAndEdgier and much more plot-heavy. [[BaseBreaker And then there's the reveal of Cure Ace]]...

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* ContestedSequel: ''Doki Doki!'' is the most polarizing season in the franchise thus far. Detractors are unhappy with this season due to perceived pacing problems as well as too much focus being given to Mana and Regina at the expense of the other characters, especially Rikka and Alice (albeit not quite to the extent the [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure previous]] [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure two seasons]]), while fans love the season for being DarkerAndEdgier and much more plot-heavy. [[BaseBreaker And then there's the reveal of Cure Ace]]...Ace...]]



** Ira, especially after episode 26 [[spoiler:when he suffered a bout of EasyAmnesia and TookALevelInKindness.]]

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** Ira, especially after episode 26 [[spoiler:when he suffered a bout of EasyAmnesia and TookALevelInKindness.]]TookALevelInKindness]].



** Joe was already unpopular with certain fans due to being both [[MemeticMolester uncomfortably creepy around the teenage protagonists]] and [[HetIsEw a male who could be shipped with the girls]]. And then episode 17 revealed that [[spoiler:he was Princess Marie-Ange's fiance. This makes him a ''canon'' obstacle to a yuri pairing (Ange/Makoto) in a franchise where canon het couples are usually all-but-nonexistent, leaving the girls free to be shipped with each other.]] The fans who weren't fond of this reveal ''really'' weren't fond of this reveal.

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** Joe was already unpopular with certain fans due to being both [[MemeticMolester uncomfortably creepy around the teenage protagonists]] and [[HetIsEw a male who could be shipped with the girls]]. And then episode 17 revealed that [[spoiler:he was Princess Marie-Ange's fiance. This makes him a ''canon'' obstacle to a yuri pairing (Ange/Makoto) in a franchise where canon het couples are usually all-but-nonexistent, leaving the girls free to be shipped with each other.]] other]]. The fans who weren't fond of this reveal ''really'' weren't fond of this reveal.



** [[spoiler:Nikaidou]] is the enemy, if not '''THE''' enemy for shippers of every LesYay couples that involves Mana. The hate began when one of movie promotional opening [[ShipTease shows him blushing when Mana gets too close on him]]. It got worse in the last two episodes, where [[spoiler:he starts using FirstNameBasis on Mana (which only her family, fellow Cures, and Regina do so) and spends most of his time talking about Mana]]. The real kicker? Most of his appearances in the series itself don't have anything to do with Mana.
* EarWorm: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxfsmpwnXkM Beyond the Sky]].

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** [[spoiler:Nikaidou]] is the enemy, if not '''THE''' enemy for shippers of every LesYay [[HoYay Les Yay]] couples that involves Mana. The hate began when one of movie promotional opening [[ShipTease shows him blushing when Mana gets too close on him]]. It got worse in the last two episodes, where [[spoiler:he starts using FirstNameBasis on Mana (which only her family, fellow Cures, and Regina do so) and spends most of his time talking about Mana]]. The real kicker? Most of his appearances in the series itself don't have anything to do with Mana.
* EarWorm: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxfsmpwnXkM Beyond the Sky]].Sky.]]



** [[RedOniBlueOni Mana/]][[ChildhoodFriends Rikka]] was a popular ship among fans before the show even aired. When Mana and Rikka were shown to have a great deal of LesYay between them in canon (i.e. episode 2), the ship became even ''more'' popular, to the point of pretty much being this series' [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure Hibiki/Kanade]].

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** [[RedOniBlueOni Mana/]][[ChildhoodFriends Rikka]] was a popular ship among fans before the show even aired. When Mana and Rikka were shown to have a great deal of LesYay [[HoYay Les Yay]] between them in canon (i.e. episode 2), the ship became even ''more'' popular, to the point of pretty much being this series' [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure Hibiki/Kanade]].



** Some fans have noticed that the spelling sequence of the Lovely Communes is just like the transformation scene for [[Series/KamenRiderWizard Kamen Rider Beast]]. Then he pretended to be an actual MagicalGirl in a later episode. [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=990034 Artists have noticed this]].

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** Some fans have noticed that the spelling sequence of the Lovely Communes is just like the transformation scene for [[Series/KamenRiderWizard Kamen Rider Beast]]. Then he pretended to be an actual MagicalGirl in a later episode. [[http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=990034 Artists have noticed this]].this.]]



* LesYay: So many examples that [[HoYay/DokiDokiPrecure it was given its own page]].

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* LesYay: [[HoYay Les Yay]]: So many examples that [[HoYay/DokiDokiPrecure it was given its own page]].



** [[TheHero Mana's]] [[EvilLaugh counter-evil]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYbSqvpbVlc laugh]].

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** [[TheHero Mana's]] [[EvilLaugh counter-evil]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYbSqvpbVlc laugh]].laugh.]]



* OT3: It is either Makoto/Mana/Rikka, Regina/Mana/Rikka, Regina/Mana/Makoto. Ira/Rikka/Raquel is slowly gaining popularity too.

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* OT3: OneTrueThreesome: It is either Makoto/Mana/Rikka, Regina/Mana/Rikka, Regina/Mana/Makoto. Ira/Rikka/Raquel is slowly gaining popularity too.



** Aguri/Cure Ace is immensely disliked, and is one of the reasons for for the show's low TV ratings, due to to how she was introduced, her bratty Drill Sargent Nature, and the fact that she ends up replacing Makoto as the expositor for most of the remaining MythArc. Made worse by the fact that she tried to kill an amnesiac and powerless Ira. Turns out it was a test, but fans still hate her for it. Explanation on how she's introduced: A new Cure is '''always''' a previously established character, and with that is sometimes either royality or a girl who made a HeelFaceTurn. Aguri is despised for breaking that tradition and [[ReplacementScrappy replacing a fan favorite]]. It looked like it was making Regina the new Cure. It is sadly thrown out when King Jikochu makes her evil again. Then Cure Ace shows up and easily deafeats Regina, who is PutOnABus for nearly the entire second half of Doki Doki. In the same episode it's quickly revealed that Ace is an Elementary School girl named Aguri, '''a new character who appears out of nowhere.''' Who then proceeds to do nothing but tell off the girls for several episodes.
** Thanks to episode 36, [[spoiler:Yashima]] gets a lot of hate for [[spoiler:introducing her boyfriend in front of Raquel (who gets a PrecociousCrush on her), ''all while thanking him''.]]

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** Aguri/Cure Ace is immensely disliked, and is one of the reasons for for the show's low TV ratings, due to to how she was introduced, her bratty Drill Sargent Nature, and the fact that she ends up replacing Makoto as the expositor for most of the remaining MythArc. Made worse by the fact that she tried to kill an amnesiac and powerless Ira. Turns out it was a test, but fans still hate her for it. Explanation on how she's introduced: A new Cure is '''always''' a previously established character, and with that is sometimes either royality or a girl who made a HeelFaceTurn. Aguri is despised for breaking that tradition and [[ReplacementScrappy replacing a fan favorite]]. It looked like it was making Regina the new Cure. It is sadly thrown out when King Jikochu makes her evil again. Then Cure Ace shows up and easily deafeats defeats Regina, who is PutOnABus for nearly the entire second half of Doki Doki. In the same episode it's quickly revealed that Ace is an Elementary School girl named Aguri, '''a new character who appears out of nowhere.''' Who then proceeds to do nothing but tell off the girls for several episodes.
** Thanks to episode 36, [[spoiler:Yashima]] gets a lot of hate for [[spoiler:introducing her boyfriend in front of Raquel (who gets a PrecociousCrush on her), ''all while thanking him''.]]him'']].



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Aside from the series having relatively good animation throughout, Cure Ace's transformation takes this to a ridiculous level. It's almost near movie like when it comes to the animation quality and is considered to be the coolest looking transformation in the franchise to date. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmkcQX0i2vE See it here in HD]].

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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Aside from the series having relatively good animation throughout, Cure Ace's transformation takes this to a ridiculous level. It's almost near movie like when it comes to the animation quality and is considered to be the coolest looking transformation in the franchise to date. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmkcQX0i2vE See it here in HD]].HD.]]
27th Aug '17 9:57:05 PM MagiMecha
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*** With the release finally happening, it seems that the general consensus is about the same as the original ''Glitter Force'' series - it's a solid series that holds up on its own, especially with the changes. There are some who really like it but feel it's inferior to ''Doki Doki'', some who think it's actually ''superior'' to ''Doki Doki'' and those who hold ''Doki Doki'', flaws and all, in such a high regard that they hope it fails like they hoped that ''Glitter Force'' should have. In fact, at least one review on Netflix suggests ignoring some of the negative reviews as they were most likely done by purists who do want the series to fail.
21st Aug '17 11:10:39 PM luisedgarf
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** And for Latin American fans, the dub for that region will be still handled by the same voice acting studio who did the dub of the [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure previous series]], albeit the opinions about the dub are somewhat more positive this time.

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** And for Latin American fans, the dub for that region will be still handled by the same voice acting studio who did the dub of the [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure previous series]], albeit the opinions about the dub are somewhat more positive this time. It helps a lot the dub was done in Colombia, compared with the previous series, which was dubbed in the U.S. in a Spanish-speaking studio in Miami, FL.
16th Aug '17 9:30:01 PM luisedgarf
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** And for Latin American fans, the dub for that region will be still handled by the same voice acting studio who did the dub of the [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure previous series]], albeit the opinions about the dub are somewhat more positive this time.
6th Jul '17 7:23:00 PM MagiMecha
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* HarsherInHindsight: It's probably no surprise that the ''Glitter Force'' version of this series renamed the Trump Kingdom into "Slendorious", [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement seeing how the name "Trump" might start a LOT of trouble]].
12th May '17 5:52:04 PM Blazer
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** There is information that this series will be brought over as Seasons 3 and 4 of Creator/SabanBrands' ''Glitter Force'' dub series with even more episodes chopped out. Like with ''Anime/SmilePrettyCure'', people are divided over having this series finally brought to America and the fact that it's ''still'' being handled by Saban.
4th Mar '17 1:40:41 PM mlsmithca
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** Aguri/Cure Ace is immensely disliked, and is one of the reasons for for the show's low TV ratings, due to to how she was introduced, her bratty Drill Sargent Nature, and the fact that she ends up replacing Makoto as the expositor for most of the remaining MythArc. Made worse by the fact that she tried to kill an amnesiac and powerless Ira. Turns out it was a test, but fans still hate her for it.
*** Explanation on how she's introduced: A new Cure is '''always''' a previously established character, and with that is sometimes either royality or a girl who made a HeelFaceTurn. Aguri is despised for breaking that tradition and [[ReplacementScrappy replacing a fan favorite]]. It looked like it was making Regina the new Cure. It is sadly thrown out when King Jikochu makes her evil again. Then Cure Ace shows up and easily deafeats Regina, who is PutOnABus for nearly the entire second half of Doki Doki. In the same episode it's quickly revealed that Ace is an Elementary School girl named Aguri, '''a new character who appears out of nowhere.''' Who then proceeds to do nothing but tell off the girls for several episodes.

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** Aguri/Cure Ace is immensely disliked, and is one of the reasons for for the show's low TV ratings, due to to how she was introduced, her bratty Drill Sargent Nature, and the fact that she ends up replacing Makoto as the expositor for most of the remaining MythArc. Made worse by the fact that she tried to kill an amnesiac and powerless Ira. Turns out it was a test, but fans still hate her for it.
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it. Explanation on how she's introduced: A new Cure is '''always''' a previously established character, and with that is sometimes either royality or a girl who made a HeelFaceTurn. Aguri is despised for breaking that tradition and [[ReplacementScrappy replacing a fan favorite]]. It looked like it was making Regina the new Cure. It is sadly thrown out when King Jikochu makes her evil again. Then Cure Ace shows up and easily deafeats Regina, who is PutOnABus for nearly the entire second half of Doki Doki. In the same episode it's quickly revealed that Ace is an Elementary School girl named Aguri, '''a new character who appears out of nowhere.''' Who then proceeds to do nothing but tell off the girls for several episodes.



** ShipToShipCombat: The [[DracoInLeatherPants Mana/Regina]] shippers vs. [[EnemyMine Mana/everyone else]] shippers.

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** * ShipToShipCombat: The [[DracoInLeatherPants Mana/Regina]] shippers vs. [[EnemyMine Mana/everyone else]] shippers.



* SoCoolItsAwesome: For many fans, this is the first series to really embody this since ''Anime/HeartcatchPrettyCure'', due to the darker plot compared to [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure the previous]] [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure two seasons]] and bucking a couple trends started in ''Anime/FreshPrettyCure''. Cure Ace, for people who see her as the coolest Cure since Cure Moonlight see her specifically as this as well.
14th Feb '17 6:51:14 PM WaterBlap
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** [[Creator/DonaldTrump Trump]] Kingdom, anyone?
5th Feb '17 7:52:08 AM Jisu
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** Apparently, some people believe that being both TheSociopath and a CardCarryingVillain crosses the MoralEventHorizon. Obviously, there are those that would beg to differ. Case in point: Makopi's reaction to Mana wanting to befriend Regina in episode 16 caused both sides to vent at each other.
** The Regina plot and the reveal of Cure Ace [[spoiler: is either an ambitious subversion of the standard DarkMagicalGirl plot or a poorly written ShockingSwerve. [[TakeAThirdOption Or]] [[GoldenMeanFallacy both.]]]]
** Cure Ace herself. Is she a really badass and awesome new addition to the team or a badly shoehorned-in character who makes no sense? Is her being noticeably older than the Cures when transformed and noticeably younger when not appealing or off-putting? Is she a cool AloofAlly who just wants to help the girls to get stronger [[FigureItOutYourself however indirectly]] or is she a smug and condescending girl who does nothing to help the Cures but takes the credit anyway? Fans seem to be rather split on this.
** People in the fandom either dislike Mana/Cure Heart or see her an awesome, refreshing magical girl protagonist.

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** Apparently, some people believe Regina, early on. Some of the fans thought she was completely unlikable and that being both TheSociopath and a CardCarryingVillain crosses the MoralEventHorizon. Obviously, there are those Makoto was right to reject her, others that would beg to differ. Case in point: Makopi's reaction to she was cute and just needed help and that Mana wanting was right to befriend her. This tapered off late in the series as ''both'' sides embraced Regina in episode 16 caused both sides to vent at each other.
as someone the plot screwed over.
** The Regina plot and the reveal of Cure Ace [[spoiler: is either an ambitious subversion of the standard DarkMagicalGirl plot or a poorly written ShockingSwerve. [[TakeAThirdOption Or]] [[GoldenMeanFallacy both.]]]]
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** Cure Ace herself. Is she a really badass and awesome new addition to the team or a badly shoehorned-in character who makes no sense? Is her being noticeably older than the Cures when transformed and noticeably younger when not appealing or off-putting? Is she a cool AloofAlly who just wants to help the girls to get stronger stronger, [[FigureItOutYourself however indirectly]] indirectly]], or is she a smug and condescending girl who does nothing to help the Cures but takes the credit anyway? Fans seem to be rather split on this.
** People in the fandom either dislike think Mana/Cure Heart or see is a MarySue who always gets away from actually learning anything because of her an awesome, refreshing magical girl protagonist.PlotArmor or think she's a great, strong protagonist whose flaws are still there even if she manages to push through them every time. There's a reason she gets "[[Wrestling/JohnCena Let's go Mana/Mana sucks!]]"



** The last episode. [[spoiler:Specifically, whether you think it's a conclusive ending, or not conclusive at all.]]

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** The People are divided on the last episode. [[spoiler:Specifically, Specifically, whether you think it's a conclusive ending, or not conclusive at all.all. [[spoiler:Then there's the fact that Mana no-sells and solos the final boss, as up to that point, other Precure had always finished the BigBad off as a team.]]



* ContestedSequel: ''Doki Doki!'' is the most polarizing season in the franchise thus far. Detractors are unhappy with this season due to perceived pacing problems as well as too much focus being given to Mana and Regina at the expense of the other characters, especially Rikka and Alice (albeit not quite to the extent the [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure previous]] [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure two seasons]]), while fans love the season for being DarkerAndEdgier. [[BaseBreaker And then there's the reveal of Cure Ace]]...

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* ContestedSequel: ''Doki Doki!'' is the most polarizing season in the franchise thus far. Detractors are unhappy with this season due to perceived pacing problems as well as too much focus being given to Mana and Regina at the expense of the other characters, especially Rikka and Alice (albeit not quite to the extent the [[Anime/SuitePrettyCure previous]] [[Anime/SmilePrettyCure two seasons]]), while fans love the season for being DarkerAndEdgier.DarkerAndEdgier and much more plot-heavy. [[BaseBreaker And then there's the reveal of Cure Ace]]...
19th Jan '17 3:21:25 PM wootzits
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* VindicatedByHistory: Mana/Heart and Aguri/Ace were considered huge [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] during and after the show's run. However, they seem to get this as shown in [[https://www.reddit.com/r/precure/comments/42ktqv/cures_by_popularity_in_japanese/ in the 2015 Precure characters poll]]. Aguri was actually the ''top-ranking'' of the [=DokiDoki=] Cures, with Mana shortly following after her, and both rank in the top 10. This happens at least in the Japanese fandom as the two are still [[AmericansHateTingle extremely polarizing characters]] in the West.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Between the {{Gender Blender Name}}s, typical cute mascot looks, and the fact that they're all voiced by women that don't even try to sound masculine, it's very easy to miss the fact that Raquel and Lance are male.
* VindicatedByHistory: Mana/Heart and Aguri/Ace were considered huge [[BaseBreaker Base Breakers]] {{Base Breaker}}s during and after the show's run. However, they seem to get this as shown in [[https://www.reddit.com/r/precure/comments/42ktqv/cures_by_popularity_in_japanese/ in the 2015 Precure characters poll]]. Aguri was actually the ''top-ranking'' of the [=DokiDoki=] Cures, with Mana shortly following after her, and both rank in the top 10. This happens at least in the Japanese fandom as the two are still [[AmericansHateTingle extremely polarizing characters]] in the West.
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