History YMMV / DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse

26th Feb '16 2:04:55 AM LondonKdS
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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "Rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, modernist or post-modernist experiments with form or style, or explicit exploration of sexual relationships; versus "Trads", who want works that would have quite plausibly been made as normal TV stories from the era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier Guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; versus "[[LighterAndSofter Frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.

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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "Rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, modernist or post-modernist experiments with form or style, or explicit exploration of sexual relationships; versus "Trads", who want works that would have quite could plausibly have been made as normal TV stories from in the era where when they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier Guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; versus "[[LighterAndSofter Frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.
1st Jan '16 9:22:12 AM LondonKdS
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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "Rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, modernist or post-modernist experiments with form or style, or explicit exploration of sexual relationships; versus "Trads", who want works that would have worked just as well as normal stories from the TV-show era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier Guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; versus "[[LighterAndSofter Frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.

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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "Rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, modernist or post-modernist experiments with form or style, or explicit exploration of sexual relationships; versus "Trads", who want works that would have worked just as well quite plausibly been made as normal TV stories from the TV-show era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier Guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; versus "[[LighterAndSofter Frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.
6th Oct '15 3:51:32 PM LahmacunKebab
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* HilariousInHindsight: The novel ''Harvest of Time'' involves the Doctor having to save various incarnations of the Master from the MonsterOfTheWeek, the Sild. One of those incarnations are female. [[spoiler:[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater And wouldn't you know...]]]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The novel ''Harvest of Time'' involves the Doctor having to save various incarnations of the Master from the MonsterOfTheWeek, the Sild. One of those incarnations are is female. [[spoiler:[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater And wouldn't you know...]]]]
29th Sep '15 7:06:24 AM moloch
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* HilariousInHindsight: The novel ''Harvest of Time'' involves the Doctor having to save various incarnations of the Master from the MonsterOfTheWeek, the Slid. One of those incarnations are female. [[spoiler:[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater And wouldn't you know...]]]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: The novel ''Harvest of Time'' involves the Doctor having to save various incarnations of the Master from the MonsterOfTheWeek, the Slid.Sild. One of those incarnations are female. [[spoiler:[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater And wouldn't you know...]]]]
21st Aug '15 1:33:41 AM LondonKdS
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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "Rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, formal experimentation, or explicit exploration of sexual relationships; versus "Trads", who want works that would have worked just as well as normal stories from the TV-show era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier Guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; versus "[[LighterAndSofter Frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.

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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "Rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, formal experimentation, modernist or post-modernist experiments with form or style, or explicit exploration of sexual relationships; versus "Trads", who want works that would have worked just as well as normal stories from the TV-show era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier Guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; versus "[[LighterAndSofter Frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.
20th Aug '15 6:14:40 AM LondonKdS
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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, formal experimentation, or explicit sex scenes; versus "trads", who want works that would have worked just as well as normal stories from the TV-show era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; and "[[LighterAndSofter frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.

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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "rads", "Rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, formal experimentation, or explicit sex scenes; exploration of sexual relationships; versus "trads", "Trads", who want works that would have worked just as well as normal stories from the TV-show era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier guns]]", Guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; and versus "[[LighterAndSofter frocks]]", Frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.
20th Aug '15 6:13:28 AM LondonKdS
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* BrokenBase: The feuding among fans about which Expanded Universe works or sub-continuities are good and which ones are horrific parodies of the franchise that don't deserve to carry the name. The factions can be divided according to a scheme invented by the writer Gareth Roberts in the nineties, which has two orthogonal axes. On the one axis you have "rads", who like works which do things that would never happen on the TV show, whether that involves impossible scale escalation, formal experimentation, or explicit sex scenes; versus "trads", who want works that would have worked just as well as normal stories from the TV-show era where they're set. On the other hand, you have "[[DarkerAndEdgier guns]]", who want stories set on {{Crapsack World}}s in which everybody is a complete bastard including the Doctor and everyone except the regulars dies as gruesomely and graphically as possible, with it being very unclear at the end if anything good might have been achieved; and "[[LighterAndSofter frocks]]", who want stories with happy endings and lots of jokes. There is a slight bias towards the Rads-Guns and Trads-Frocks regions of the graph, but significant numbers of fans can be found in all four quadrants.
1st Nov '14 5:20:46 PM DonnyKD
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* HilariousInHindsight: The novel ''Harvest of Time'' involves the Doctor having to save various incarnations of the Master from the MonsterOfTheWeek, the Slid. One of those incarnations are female. [[spoiler:[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E11DarkWater And wouldn't you know...]]]]
25th Jun '14 4:42:14 AM TheWildWestPyro
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10th Dec '13 5:59:18 AM LondonKdS
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Some of the writers seem to make a point of undoing as many happy endings from the TV series as possible, as well as killing of existing characters. This is particularly an issue in the prose Seventh and Eighth Doctor novels, and latter-day Big Finish.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Some of the writers seem to make a point of undoing as many happy endings from the TV series as possible, as well as killing of existing off TV characters. This is particularly an issue in the prose Seventh and Eighth Doctor novels, and latter-day Big Finish.
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