History YMMV / DisneyThemeParks

26th Nov '16 6:11:08 AM Spinosegnosaurus77
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** Disney's Animal Kingdom park is this to some. Despite being the biggest of the four main Walt Disney World parks, most of the space is given over to the animals and can't be accessed by the public. Thus, it has the smallest number of conventional rides and attractions and the walking-to-experiencing ratio isn't very high; those not fond of experiencing the wonders of nature especially don't find it appealing. With one of the the park's main selling points being based on one of Disney's [[Disney/{{Dinosaur}} most obscure and least popular movies]], and their biggest-ticket attraction essentially being Disneyland's Matterhorn on steroids, very few people who visit Disney World consider Animal Kingdom as their favorite of the parks.

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** Disney's Animal Kingdom park is this to some. Despite being the biggest of the four main Walt Disney World parks, most of the space is given over to the animals and can't be accessed by the public. Thus, it has the smallest number of conventional rides and attractions and the walking-to-experiencing ratio isn't very high; those not fond of experiencing the wonders of nature especially don't find it appealing. With one of the the park's main selling points being based on one of Disney's [[Disney/{{Dinosaur}} most obscure and least popular movies]], and their biggest-ticket attraction essentially being Disneyland's Matterhorn on steroids, very few people who visit Disney World consider Animal Kingdom as their favorite of the parks. This may change with the opening of Pandora in 2017.



* GrowingTheBeard: In its early years, many fans considered California Adventure a mediocre, generic park with only a couple good attractions. This changed with the creation of Toy Story Midway Mania, which marked the end of the park's adherence to its "California" theme and the introduction of more Disney-themed attractions.

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* GrowingTheBeard: In its early years, many fans considered California Adventure a mediocre, generic park with only a couple good attractions. This changed with the creation of Toy Story Midway Mania, which marked the end of the park's adherence to its "California" California theme and the introduction of more Disney-themed attractions.
25th Nov '16 11:12:47 PM UrthWyrm
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* GrowingTheBeard: In its early years, many fans considered California Adventure a mediocre, generic park with only a couple good attractions. This changed with the creation of Toy Story Midway Mania, which marked the end of the park's adherence to its "California" theme and the introduction of more Disney-themed attractions.
14th Nov '16 8:33:03 PM palmer7
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**** They also played "Footloose".



* CreepyCute: The Spectromen from Walt Disney World's Spectromagic can come across as this due to there bizarre movements and behavior. However, they also act very happy,energetic, and cute around certain guests such as the Trumpet Spectromen blowing a kiss to the guests when they finish there trumpet performance while most are heard singing.
* CreatorsPet: Duffy the Disney Bear. Imagine a character who isn't connected to any of the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and/or Creator/{{Pixar}} films. Hey, [[EnsembleDarkhorse Figment]], [[WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb Agent P]], and [[Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean Captain Jack Sparrow]] are well liked, right? Well, the problem is, this character isn't FROM any of the rides, shows, or live-action movies. He exists solely [[MerchandiseDriven to sell merchandise]], TastesLikeDiabetes, and yet has more presence in the parks than [[EnsembleDarkhorse Darkhorses]] like [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Flynn Rider]], [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales Scrooge McDuck]], and [[BrotherChuck Brother Chucked]] characters like Disney/{{Hercules}}, [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Quasimodo]], Disney/{{Tarzan}} and most of the Disney villains, who usually only appear for Meet and Greets at the Halloween parties. In addition, he's also managed to outlast a character from a [[Franchise/KingdomHearts popular and ongoing video game series co-created by Disney]]. This is mostly a result of Duffy being a CashCowFranchise in the Tokyo parks with desperate efforts to re-create the success abroad without realizing the cultural differences.

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* CreepyCute: The Spectromen from Walt Disney World's Spectromagic can come across as this due to there their bizarre movements and behavior. However, they also act very happy,energetic, and cute around certain guests such as the Trumpet Spectromen blowing a kiss to the guests when they finish there trumpet performance while most are heard singing.
* CreatorsPet: Duffy the Disney Bear. Imagine a character who isn't connected to any of the Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon and/or Creator/{{Pixar}} films. Hey, [[EnsembleDarkhorse Figment]], [[WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb Agent P]], and [[Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean Captain Jack Sparrow]] are well liked, right? Well, the problem is, this character isn't FROM any of the rides, shows, or live-action movies. He exists solely [[MerchandiseDriven to sell merchandise]], TastesLikeDiabetes, and yet has more presence in the parks than [[EnsembleDarkhorse Darkhorses]] like [[Disney/{{Tangled}} Flynn Rider]], [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales Scrooge McDuck]], and [[BrotherChuck Brother Chucked]] characters like Disney/{{Hercules}}, [[Disney/TheHunchbackOfNotreDame Quasimodo]], Disney/{{Tarzan}} and most of the Disney villains, who usually only appear for Meet and Greets at the Halloween parties. In addition, he's also managed to outlast a character from a [[Franchise/KingdomHearts popular and ongoing video game series co-created by Disney]]. This is mostly a result of Duffy being a CashCowFranchise in the Tokyo parks with desperate efforts to re-create recreate the success abroad without realizing the cultural differences.
11th Nov '16 6:49:08 PM Willbyr
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** At Epcot, there was an exhibition on Japanese mythology influencing {{Anime}}. It included displays on such popular, [[{{Shonen}} relatively]] kid-friendly series as ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', ''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]]'', and... ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion?!'' Doubles as CowboyBebopAtHisComputer and EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory. They've even sold Eva merchandise in the Mitsukoshi Department Store nearby. A Toys/RobotSpirits toy of ZA BEASTO been sold there, as has a lot of Franchise/{{Gundam}}, Manga/{{Bleach}}, BlackButler, VideoGame/{{Touhou}}, and LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya merchandise in addition to the more actually-known-to-kids Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, Sanrio, Creator/{{Nintendo}}, SonicTheHedgehog, VideoGame/MegaMan, and Franchise/{{Transformers}} merch.

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** At Epcot, there was an exhibition on Japanese mythology influencing {{Anime}}. It included displays on such popular, [[{{Shonen}} relatively]] kid-friendly series as ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', ''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]]'', and... ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion?!'' Doubles as CowboyBebopAtHisComputer and EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory. They've even sold Eva merchandise in the Mitsukoshi Department Store nearby. A Toys/RobotSpirits toy of ZA BEASTO been sold there, as has a lot of Franchise/{{Gundam}}, Manga/{{Bleach}}, BlackButler, Manga/BlackButler, VideoGame/{{Touhou}}, and LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya merchandise in addition to the more actually-known-to-kids Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, Sanrio, Creator/{{Nintendo}}, SonicTheHedgehog, VideoGame/MegaMan, and Franchise/{{Transformers}} merch.
3rd Nov '16 12:37:34 PM rjd1922
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* InternetCounterattack: Just look a the dislike bar and comments for Disney's official announcement of the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror's ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' themed makeover on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L9ZAdtNZc0&index=3&list=PLflf8xbnbx64bK_j1f9Bj_MlQGEztYdpO YouTube..]]

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* InternetCounterattack: Just look a the dislike bar and comments for Disney's official announcement of the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror's ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' themed makeover on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L9ZAdtNZc0&index=3&list=PLflf8xbnbx64bK_j1f9Bj_MlQGEztYdpO YouTube..YouTube.]]
3rd Nov '16 4:02:44 AM Spinosegnosaurus77
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** [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] is an odd example; as a character and star of one of the more popular Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon efforts, he's generally well-liked, [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially in Japan]]. However, the ReplacementScrappy status of [[Ride/StitchsGreatEscape his American ride]] (which has just recently seen a reduction in operation) and the fact he became a SixthRanger to the Fab Five have gotten a rather mixed response.

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** [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] is an odd example; as a character and star of one of the more popular Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon efforts, he's generally well-liked, [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially in Japan]]. However, the ReplacementScrappy status of [[Ride/StitchsGreatEscape his American ride]] (which has just recently seen saw a reduction in operation) operation in 2016) and the fact he became a SixthRanger to the Fab Five have gotten a rather mixed response.
2nd Nov '16 4:16:22 PM RisefromYourGrave
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* BaseBreaker:
** [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] is an odd example; as a character and star of one of the more popular Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon efforts, he's generally well-liked, [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially in Japan]]. However, the ReplacementScrappy status of his American ride and the fact he became a SixthRanger to the Fab Five have gotten a rather mixed response.
** What should go on the unused Disneyland Peoplemover tracks? [[FlameWar And let's keep it at that]].[[note]]Due to Safety, Legal, and Architectural issues a new ride cannot be put into place nor can the track be removed.[[/note]]
** Journey into Imagination, to an extent. The ride has gone through three different versions - the first version seems to be the most popular overall, although you'll find some fans of the third (current) version who claim it's better. The second was considered so awful it set a new record for number of complaints about a new ride and had one of the shortest run times ever before getting revamped.
** People are split on whether Rex from Star Tours is either incredibly annoying or genuinely entertaining.
** Pandora at Animal Kingdom is yet another example. Some say it doesn't belong at the park, especially since Avatar is not a Disney movie. Many of them still want to see Beastlie Kingdomme appear in some form. Others, however, say that it fits with the park's major theme of conservation and that it will be a welcome addition to the park.

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* BaseBreaker:
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** [[Disney/LiloAndStitch Stitch]] is an odd example; as a character and star of one of the more popular Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon efforts, he's generally well-liked, [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially in Japan]]. However, the ReplacementScrappy status of [[Ride/StitchsGreatEscape his American ride ride]] (which has just recently seen a reduction in operation) and the fact he became a SixthRanger to the Fab Five have gotten a rather mixed response.
** What should go on the unused Disneyland Peoplemover tracks? [[FlameWar And let's keep it at that]].[[note]]Due to Safety, Legal, and Architectural issues a new ride cannot be put into place nor can the track be removed.[[/note]]
** Journey into Imagination, to an extent. The ride has gone through three different versions - the first version seems to be the most popular overall, although you'll find some fans of the third (current) version who claim it's better. The second was considered so awful it set a new record for number of complaints about a new ride and had one of the shortest run times ever before getting revamped.
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People are split on whether Rex from Star Tours Ride/StarTours is either incredibly annoying or genuinely entertaining.
** Pandora at Animal Kingdom is yet another example. Some say it doesn't belong at the park, especially since Avatar is not a Disney movie. Many of them still want to see Beastlie Kingdomme appear in some form. Others, however, say that it fits with the park's major theme of conservation and that it will be a welcome addition to the park.
entertaining.



** The "[[DisneyPrincesses princesses uber alles" attitude]] is a great example of an issue that splits fans. A lot of them -- especially those who are also parents of female children -- love the princesses. Adults without children and parents of ''boys'' are not so thrilled. Childless adults want more adult-aimed fun in the parks, while parents with boys are wondering why Disney is ignoring their kids, who generally aren't into princesses at all.
** Walt Disney World has broken its base in recent years. There are those who still love it near-unconditionally, but many longtime fans and/or travel writers such as Bob Sehlinger of the long-running ''Unofficial Guide'' guidebook series have been embittered by systems such as Fastpass+ and dining plans that require huge amounts of confusing preplanning and have killed leisurely touring altogether, a noticeable downturn in customer service and general upkeep, and the '''soaring''' prices of tickets, food, lodging, souvenirs, etc. all effectively rendering a WDW vacation out of reach of middle and lower-class families in TheNewTens. As Sehlinger bitterly notes in the ''The Unofficial Guide to Wald Disney World 2017'', this is all the more painful for children of said families who are effectively cut off from the characters they love so well thanks to Disney's aggressive marketing.

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** The "[[DisneyPrincesses "[[Franchise/DisneyPrincesses princesses uber alles" attitude]] is a great example of an issue that splits fans. A lot of them -- especially those who are also parents of female children -- love the princesses. Adults without children and parents of ''boys'' are not so thrilled. Childless adults want more adult-aimed fun in the parks, while parents with boys are wondering why Disney is ignoring their kids, who generally aren't into princesses at all.
** What should go on the unused Disneyland Peoplemover tracks? [[FlameWar And let's keep it at that]].[[note]]Due to Safety, Legal, and Architectural issues a new ride cannot be put into place nor can the track be removed.[[/note]]
** Journey into Imagination, to an extent. The ride has gone through three different versions - the first version seems to be the most popular overall, although you'll find some fans of the third (current) version who claim it's better. The second was considered so awful it set a new record for number of complaints about a new ride and had one of the shortest run times ever before getting revamped.
** Pandora at Animal Kingdom is yet another example. Some say it doesn't belong at the park, especially since Avatar is not a Disney movie. Many of them still want to see Beastly Kingdom appear in some form. Others, however, say that it fits with the park's major theme of conservation and that it will be a welcome addition to the park.
** Walt Disney World has broken its base in recent years. There are those who still love it near-unconditionally, but many longtime fans and/or travel writers such as Bob Sehlinger of the long-running ''Unofficial Guide'' guidebook series have been embittered by systems such as Fastpass+ and dining plans that require huge amounts of confusing preplanning pre-planning and have killed leisurely touring altogether, a noticeable downturn in customer service and general upkeep, and the '''soaring''' prices of tickets, food, lodging, souvenirs, etc. all effectively rendering a WDW vacation out of reach of middle and lower-class families in TheNewTens. As Sehlinger bitterly notes in the ''The Unofficial Guide to Wald Walt Disney World 2017'', this is all the more painful for children of said families who are effectively cut off from the characters they love so well thanks to Disney's aggressive marketing.



* EarWorm: Most attractions with some sort of musical theme are like this, ''especially'' It's a Small World. Sing it with us now: ''"It's a small world after all..."''

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* EarWorm: Most attractions with some sort of musical theme are like this, ''especially'' It's a Small World.Ride/ItsASmallWorld. Sing it with us now: ''"It's a small world after all..."''



** S.I.R., the robot in the preshow for the long-dead Alien Encounter ride, is generally well-liked among the fandom, as is the alien Skippy, who actually was popular enough to survive the transformation of Alien Encounter to Stitch's Great Escape.

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** S.I.R., the robot in the preshow for the long-dead Alien Encounter ride, Ride/AlienEncounter, is generally well-liked among the fandom, as fandom. So is the alien Skippy, who actually was popular enough to survive the transformation of Alien Encounter to Stitch's Great Escape.Escape!



* FanMyopia / OpinionMyopia: A look at old editions of tour books like ''The Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World'' and its Disneyland counterpart reveal that certain rides that were controversially closed, replaced, or retooled -- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, the original Journey into Imagination dark ride, etc. -- weren't nearly as well-regarded by the masses as the fans by the time they closed.

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* FanMyopia / OpinionMyopia: FanMyopia[=/=]OpinionMyopia: A look at old editions of tour books like ''The Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World'' and its Disneyland counterpart reveal that certain rides that were controversially closed, replaced, or retooled -- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, the original Journey into Imagination dark ride, etc. -- weren't nearly as well-regarded by the masses as the fans by the time they closed.



* FanonDiscontinuity: There never was a replacement for Disneyland's Main Street Electrical Parade called Light Magic that involved Celtic remixes of Disney songs and stepdancing characters.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
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There never was a replacement for Disneyland's Main Street Electrical Parade called Light Magic that involved Celtic remixes of Disney songs and stepdancing characters.



* HarsherInHindsight: The Jungle Cruise originally had a line warning parents to "Watch your children, or the crocodiles will." In 2016, an alligator in the waters of Disney World killed a two year old toddler. Obviously, Disney removed the line from the Jungle Cruise immediately after the fact.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The Jungle Cruise Ride/JungleCruise originally had a line warning parents to "Watch your children, or the crocodiles will." In 2016, an alligator in the waters of Disney World killed a two year old two-year-old toddler. Obviously, Disney removed the line from the Jungle Cruise immediately after the fact.



** [[http://i.imgur.com/HWL4ZKG.gifv This gif of Gaston and the Villains dancing at Disneyland Paris]] has been going viral over Reddit and can be brought up when ever anything Gaston related is mentioned. Mostly referred as "No one fucking brings it like Gaston".

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** [[http://i.imgur.com/HWL4ZKG.gifv This gif of Gaston and the Villains dancing at Disneyland Paris]] has been going viral over Reddit and can be brought up when ever anything Gaston related is mentioned. Mostly referred as "No one fucking brings it like Gaston".Gaston."



* MisaimedMarketing: The Character Greetings are a good idea. Meeting the villains? Well, EvilIsCool (especially at Halloween) but some villains might be a bit ''too'' terrifying.
** Running a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4HH9YC9jKE commercial]] for New Fantasyland featuring [[Series/OnceUponATime Regina Mills]]. On paper it's a brilliant idea considering Disney's love of cross-promotion, but in practice it just screams out UnfortunateImplications given the presence of Belle and the Beast [[spoiler:who in the OUAT universe is actually Rumplestiltskin]].
** At Epcot, there was an exhibition on Japanese mythology influencing {{Anime}}. It included displays on such popular, [[{{Shonen}} relatively]] kid-friendly series as ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', ''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]]'', and... ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion?!'' Doubles as CowboyBebopAtHisComputer and EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory. They've even sold Eva merchandise in the Mitsukoshi Department Store nearby. A Toys/RobotSpirits toy of ZA BEASTO been sold there, as has a lot of Franchise/{{Gundam}}, Manga/{{Bleach}}, BlackButler, VideoGame/{{Touhou}}, and LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya merchandise in addition to the more actually-known-to-kids Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, Sanrio, Creator/{{Nintendo}}, SonicTheHedgehog, VideoGame/MegaMan, and {{Transformers}} merch.
* MisBlamed: It happens; many an UrbanLegend around the park stated stuff that Walt did that he didn't have ''as'' much involvement in. Really minor and/or innocent examples. One common one was that Walt ran and owned the company named after him. Yes, he was the creative driving force, but no he wasn't the person running the company; that was actually Roy. You can [[http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/dejaview.asp read more]] on ''{{Website/Snopes}}'' for the urban legend that he made a film telling his employees what to do after his death.

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* MisaimedMarketing: MisaimedMarketing:
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The Character Greetings are a good idea. Meeting the villains? Well, EvilIsCool (especially at Halloween) but some villains might be a bit ''too'' terrifying.
** Running a [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4HH9YC9jKE commercial]] for New Fantasyland featuring [[Series/OnceUponATime Regina Mills]]. On paper it's a brilliant idea considering Disney's love of cross-promotion, but in practice it just screams out UnfortunateImplications given the presence of Belle and the Beast [[spoiler:who in the OUAT ''OUAT'' universe is actually Rumplestiltskin]].
** At Epcot, there was an exhibition on Japanese mythology influencing {{Anime}}. It included displays on such popular, [[{{Shonen}} relatively]] kid-friendly series as ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', ''Manga/DragonBall'', ''[[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]]'', and... ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion?!'' Doubles as CowboyBebopAtHisComputer and EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory. They've even sold Eva merchandise in the Mitsukoshi Department Store nearby. A Toys/RobotSpirits toy of ZA BEASTO been sold there, as has a lot of Franchise/{{Gundam}}, Manga/{{Bleach}}, BlackButler, VideoGame/{{Touhou}}, and LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya merchandise in addition to the more actually-known-to-kids Franchise/{{Pokemon}}, Sanrio, Creator/{{Nintendo}}, SonicTheHedgehog, VideoGame/MegaMan, and {{Transformers}} Franchise/{{Transformers}} merch.
* MisBlamed: {{Misblamed}}: It happens; many an UrbanLegend around the park stated stuff that Walt did that he didn't have ''as'' much involvement in. Really minor and/or innocent examples. One common one was that Walt ran and owned the company named after him. Yes, he was the creative driving force, but no he wasn't the person running the company; that was actually Roy. You can [[http://www.snopes.com/disney/wdco/dejaview.asp read more]] on ''{{Website/Snopes}}'' for the urban legend that he made a film telling his employees what to do after his death.



** The monorail safety warning: [[MemeticMutation Please stand clear of the doors.]] [[GratuitousSpanish Por favor, manténganse alejado de las puertas.]]

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** The monorail safety warning: [[MemeticMutation Please stand clear of the doors.]] [[GratuitousSpanish ''[[GratuitousSpanish Por favor, manténganse alejado de las puertas.]]]]''
*** Before you even ask, yes they do sell merchandise with that phrase on it. It's that popular.



* NarmCharm: A lot of the rides/shows, combined with a healthy dose of NostalgiaFilter.

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* NarmCharm: NarmCharm:
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A lot of the rides/shows, combined with a healthy dose of NostalgiaFilter.



** EPCOT Center-or, *ahem*, "Epcot" has also been suffering this in the eyes of many Disney fans. The Future World area no longer seems to be about the future or really inspiring people. For instance, ''Innoventions'', which replaced the futuristic ''[=CommuniCore=]'' is all about modern-day technology and the Finding Nemo overlay of ''The Living Seas'' strips the pavilion of its futurism and leaves behind nothing but references to the movie all over the place. Then there's also the dated ''Ellen's Energy Adventure'' that's still around, and ''The Wonders of Life'' has sat dormant without a replacement for almost a decade. The common consensus is that the removal of ''Horizons'' also damaged the theme of the area, as it was seen as the pavilion that tied everything together and left you intrigued about the future. As of now, fans feel that there's no consistency to the Future World's theme and that it has no idea what it wants to be anymore. World Showcase doesn't have it as bad, but the addition of The Three Caballeros into the Mexico pavilion was a mixed bag with fans, feeling that it dumbs down the cultural elements a smidge. Currently '''very''' controversial among theme park fans is the fact that ''Maelstrom'', the ride at the Norway pavilion, is being replaced with a ride based off of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', an American-made movie based off of a Danish fairy tale that only has loose Norwegian connections in its art direction and costume design. ''Maelstrom'', on the other hand, was a ride that was firmly rooted in Norwegian culture, touching upon all the different aspects of it. Additionally, as alluded to earlier, even the park's name change comes off as this. "EPCOT Center" described what the park was meant to be - a permanent World's Fair, but many feel that "Epcot" comes off as, to put it bluntly - a gibberish word.

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** EPCOT Center-or, *ahem*, "Epcot" has also been suffering this in the eyes of many Disney fans. The Future World area no longer seems to be about the future or really inspiring people. For instance, ''Innoventions'', which replaced the futuristic ''[=CommuniCore=]'' is all about modern-day technology and the Finding Nemo overlay of ''The Living Seas'' strips the pavilion of its futurism and leaves behind nothing but references to the movie all over the place. Then there's also the dated ''Ellen's Energy Adventure'' ''Ride/EllensEnergyAdventure'' that's still around, and ''The the Wonders of Life'' Life pavilion has sat dormant without a replacement for almost a decade. The common consensus is that the removal of ''Horizons'' also damaged the theme of the area, as it was seen as the pavilion that tied everything together and left you intrigued about the future. As of now, fans feel that there's no consistency to the Future World's theme and that it has no idea what it wants to be anymore. World Showcase doesn't have it as bad, but the addition of The Three Caballeros into the Mexico pavilion was a mixed bag with fans, feeling that it dumbs down the cultural elements a smidge. Currently '''very''' controversial among theme park fans is the fact that ''Maelstrom'', the ride at the Norway pavilion, is being was replaced with a ride based off of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', an American-made movie based off of a Danish fairy tale that only has loose Norwegian connections in its art direction and costume design. ''Maelstrom'', on the other hand, was a ride that was firmly rooted in Norwegian culture, touching upon all the different aspects of it. Additionally, as alluded to earlier, even the park's name change comes off as this. "EPCOT Center" described what the park was meant to be - a permanent World's Fair, but many feel that "Epcot" comes off as, to put it bluntly - a gibberish word.



* NightmareFuel: At a kids park? [[NightmareFuel/DisneyThemeParks Buddy, you better believe it!!]]

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* NightmareFuel: At a kids kids' park? [[NightmareFuel/DisneyThemeParks Buddy, you better believe it!!]]



** Dr. Nigel Channing at Epcot's Imagination pavillion, who replaced Dreamfinder -- a tough act to follow even for [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]]. He actually predated the revamp of the Journey Into Imagination ride (via ''Honey, I Shrunk the Audience'') and was being used to knit together the pavillion's multiple attractions thematically. Alas, beyond the Dreamfinder fans objecting to the change, the penny-pinching Disney parks were suffering at the time crippled the ride's chances of comparing to the original, resulting in FanonDiscontinuity and a second revamp (making Figment the dragon the lead character and Dr. Channing a StraightMan to him, bringing back the "One Little Spark" theme song, and throwing in a few EasterEgg references to the original). That version is still up and running.
** Don't get fans started on ''[[Ride/StitchsGreatEscape Stitch's Great Escape!]]'', which replaced the ''[=ExtraTERRORestrial=] Ride/AlienEncounter''. And unlike the Imagination ride, Disney hasn't done anything to significantly improve it despite an alarming number of complaints from diehard fans and ordinary parkgoers alike!

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** Dr. Nigel Channing at Epcot's Imagination pavillion, Imagination! pavilion, who replaced Dreamfinder -- a tough act to follow even for [[Creator/MontyPython Eric Idle]]. He actually predated the revamp of the Journey Into Imagination ride (via ''Honey, I Shrunk the Audience'') and was being used to knit together the pavillion's multiple attractions thematically. Alas, beyond the Dreamfinder fans objecting to the change, the penny-pinching Disney parks were suffering at the time crippled the ride's chances of comparing to the original, resulting in FanonDiscontinuity and a second revamp (making Figment the dragon the lead character and Dr. Channing a StraightMan to him, bringing back the "One Little Spark" theme song, and throwing in a few EasterEgg references to the original). That version is still up and running.
** Don't get fans started on ''[[Ride/StitchsGreatEscape Stitch's Great Escape!]]'', ''Ride/StitchsGreatEscape'', which replaced the ''[=ExtraTERRORestrial=] Ride/AlienEncounter''. And unlike Unlike the Imagination ride, Disney hasn't done anything to significantly improve it despite an alarming number of complaints from diehard fans and ordinary parkgoers alike!alike! It has only recently changed to a seasonally-operated attraction, which its detractors have been happy to hear about, but it still had already outlasted Alien Encounter by that point.[[note]]''Alien Encounter'' lasted for less than a decade, while ''Stitch's Great Escape!'' ran daily for almost twelve years.[[/note]]



* TheScrappy: You want a Scrappy, look at Hester and Chester's Dino Rama at Animal Kingdom, a spoof of SouvenirLand that's [[PoesLaw a little too good]]; casual parkgoers see the overly tacky, "thrown-together" look of the land and rides and honestly think that it ''was'' thrown together on an old parking lot (there was never a parking lot there, and the cracked pavement, faded lines, and silly doodads on the rides are actually painstakingly put there on purpose to give the ''impression'' of a cheap carnival just like the other lands in Animal Kingdom give the impression of towns in other countries). More hardcore fans just think the atmosphere they were trying to go for is a bad fit for the park, and the Poe's Law thing doesn't help.

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* TheScrappy: TheScrappy:
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You want a Scrappy, Scrappy? Then look at Hester and Chester's Dino Rama at Animal Kingdom, a spoof of SouvenirLand that's [[PoesLaw a little too good]]; casual parkgoers see the overly tacky, "thrown-together" look of the land and rides and honestly think that it ''was'' thrown together on an old parking lot (there was never a parking lot there, and the cracked pavement, faded lines, and silly doodads on the rides are actually painstakingly put there on purpose to give the ''impression'' of a cheap carnival just like the other lands in Animal Kingdom give the impression of towns in other countries). More hardcore fans just think the atmosphere they were trying to go for is a bad fit for the park, and the Poe's Law thing doesn't help.



** And then there was the revised Enchanted Tiki Room in Florida, which in 1998 found itself "under new management", in the forms of Iago from ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' and Zazu from ''Disney/TheLionKing''. Read [[http://www.yesterland.com/newmanagement.html here]].

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** And then Then there was the revised Enchanted Tiki Room in Florida, which in 1998 found itself "under new management", in the forms of Iago from ''Disney/{{Aladdin}}'' and Zazu from ''Disney/TheLionKing''. Read [[http://www.yesterland.com/newmanagement.html here]].



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Some of the attractions, especially the original ones in the California park, seem like boring stuff compared to other theme parks that came after and catered more on the thrill side, rather than immersive side. The park thrives a lot on the NostalgiaFilter as it isn't uncommon to see parents taking their kids to the parks and talking about how ''they'' went there when they were ''their'' age.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: SeinfeldIsUnfunny:
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Some of the attractions, especially the original ones in the California park, seem like boring stuff compared to other theme parks that came after and catered more on the thrill side, rather than immersive side. The park thrives a lot on the NostalgiaFilter as it isn't uncommon to see parents taking their kids to the parks and talking about how ''they'' went there when they were ''their'' age.



** River Country, Disney's first water park and one of the first ever of its kind, was revolutionary when it first opened in Walt Disney World. Later on, Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach proved to be far more sophisticated making River Country horribly dated in comparison and unable to keep up with the competition due to its small size. Following the post 9/11 downturn in business, River Country closed at the end of the 2001 season and never reopened.

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** River Country, Disney's first water park and one of the first ever of its kind, was revolutionary when it first opened in Walt Disney World. Later on, Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach proved to be far more sophisticated making River Country horribly dated in comparison and unable to keep up with the competition due to its small size. Following the post 9/11 post-9/11 downturn in business, River Country closed at the end of the 2001 season and never reopened.



** One particular mention. In Epcot; they replaced "The Living Seas" with a ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'' themed attraction, with a couple of the seagulls programmed to move their beaks and shout "MINE" every now and then. One time, it [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19dnt9f9vFY malfunctioned]]. HilarityEnsues.

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** One particular mention. In Epcot; they replaced "The Living Seas" with a ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo'' themed ''WesternAnimation/FindingNemo''-themed attraction, with a couple of the seagulls programmed to move their beaks and shout "MINE" every now and then. One time, it [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19dnt9f9vFY malfunctioned]]. HilarityEnsues.



*** Doing away with classic attractions to accomodate more recent movies and tv shows.

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*** Doing away with classic attractions to accomodate accommodate more recent movies and tv TV shows.



*** On the subject of the original Disneyland, A ''very'' vocal group of that park's fandom has been crying fowl over the fact that in order to provide more room for the upcoming Star Wars land (itself already a BaseBreaker), the Disneyland Railroad track will be rerouted and the length of the Rivers of America (one of the few areas of the park to have been virtually untouched since it's opening in 1955) will be shortened by about 30%, eliminating much of the river's original backwoods section. This was abated somewhat by [[http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/o0snuv-b88612868z.120160111071638000g8qe7759.80.jpg a pice of recently released concept art]] revealing that a good chunk of the river's original scenery will be preserved to an extent despite the shorter length.

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*** On the subject of the original Disneyland, A ''very'' vocal group of that park's fandom has been crying fowl over the fact that in order to provide more room for the upcoming Star Wars land (itself already a BaseBreaker), the Disneyland Railroad track will be rerouted and the length of the Rivers of America (one of the few areas of the park to have been virtually untouched since it's opening in 1955) will be shortened by about 30%, eliminating much of the river's original backwoods section. This was abated somewhat by [[http://images.onset.freedom.com/ocregister/o0snuv-b88612868z.120160111071638000g8qe7759.80.jpg a pice piece of recently released concept art]] revealing that a good chunk of the river's original scenery will be preserved to an extent despite the shorter length.



* UglyCute: Sergeant 90210 in ''Stitch's Great Escape''.

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* UglyCute: Sergeant 90210 in ''Stitch's Great Escape''.Escape!''



** To some, when the sun on California Adventure's ferris wheel was painted over with a Mickey Mouse head, and the Mickey Mouse head on the roller coaster was painted over with a sun. Defenders counteract by pointing out that the current emblems have more old-fashioned charm than the old ones.

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** To some, when the sun on California Adventure's ferris Ferris wheel was painted over with a Mickey Mouse head, and the Mickey Mouse head on the roller coaster was painted over with a sun. Defenders counteract by pointing out that the current emblems have more old-fashioned charm than the old ones.
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** Disneyland Paris in its first few years, to the point of being mocked on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' (specifically, in "[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E4ItchyAndScratchyLand Itchy & Scratchy Land]]").

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** Disneyland Paris in its first few years, to the point of being mocked on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' (specifically, in "[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E4ItchyAndScratchyLand "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E4ItchyAndScratchyLand Itchy & Scratchy Land]]").
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** Disneyland Paris in its first few years, to the point of being mocked on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''.

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** Disneyland Paris in its first few years, to the point of being mocked on ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''.''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' (specifically, in "[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/TheSimpsonsS6E4ItchyAndScratchyLand Itchy & Scratchy Land]]").
11th Oct '16 7:18:36 AM erforce
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** Some people complained that Jack Sparrow wasn't in the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' ride, not realizing that the movie was based on the ride instead of the other way around. To appease them, Disney put Sparrow in the ride, along with Barbossa (replacing Paul Frees' iconic pirate captain), the image of Davey Jones and snippets of Klaus Badelt's movie score. Reactions from longtime fans of the ride were... mixed.

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** Some people complained that Jack Sparrow wasn't in the ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' ''Ride/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' ride, not realizing that the movie was based on the ride instead of the other way around. To appease them, Disney put Sparrow in the ride, along with Barbossa (replacing Paul Frees' iconic pirate captain), the image of Davey Jones and snippets of Klaus Badelt's movie score. Reactions from longtime fans of the ride were... mixed.



** Davy Jones and Jack Sparrow's inclusion in the PiratesOfTheCaribbean ride.

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** Davy Jones and Jack Sparrow's inclusion in the PiratesOfTheCaribbean Ride/PiratesOfTheCaribbean ride.
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