History YMMV / DisneyPrincess

29th Oct '17 6:40:36 PM elenaisabel722
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** On a more interesting point, there's the idea of whether [[WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst Sofia]] and [[WesternAnimation/ElenaOfAvalor Elena]] should be included in the lineup. This stems from how the latter is a spinoff of the former, which is connected to the franchise due to the cameos the princesses made in various episodes. Both Sofia and Elena fit the mold of brave, altruistic princesses who are independent and caring, and are generally well liked. However, there's also the issue of them being exclusive only to tv, and never starting out in theaters. One side thinks that a princess has to have a theatrical movie to be considered part of the lineup, especially since Sofia is much younger. The other side thinks that their cultural heritages and diverse backgrounds should qualify them for the lineup regardless of theatrical status.
17th Sep '17 11:37:24 AM DustSnitch
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* HilariousInHindsight: For a long time the franchise attracted a certain amount of (mostly) friendly FandomRivalry online from ''StarWars'' fans who would jokingly contrast Princess Leia's BadassPrincess ActionGirl characterization with the stereotypical view of Disney Princesses as super-girly [[DamselInDistress damsels]] [[FriendToAllLivingThings who sing to small forest creatures]]. Fast forward to late 2012...Disney acquires Lucasfilm, the Sequel Trilogy is announced shortly thereafter and suddenly Leia Organa technically ''is'' a Disney princess. Artists and humorists have gotten plenty of mileage out of Disney!Leia [[AffectionateParody (with a lot of overlap between the two)]] since the merger.

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* HilariousInHindsight: For a long time the franchise attracted a certain amount of (mostly) friendly FandomRivalry online from ''StarWars'' fans who would jokingly contrast Princess Leia's BadassPrincess ActionGirl characterization with the stereotypical view of Disney Princesses as super-girly [[DamselInDistress damsels]] [[FriendToAllLivingThings who sing to small forest creatures]]. Fast forward to late 2012...Disney acquires Lucasfilm, the Sequel Trilogy is announced shortly thereafter and suddenly Leia Organa technically ''is'' a Disney princess. Artists and humorists have gotten plenty of mileage out of Disney!Leia [[AffectionateParody (with a lot of overlap between the two)]] since the merger.
15th Sep '17 10:46:05 PM dsneybuf
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** Aurora and Tiana graced the wrappers of some dipping candy. Aurora got the packet of vanilla-flavored sticks. Tiana got the packet of watermelon-flavored powder. This was met with some amount of [[http://thegrio.com/2012/03/05/black-disney-princess-tiana-appears-on-watermelon-candy-package/ controversy]].

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** Aurora and Tiana graced the wrappers of some dipping candy. Aurora got the packet of vanilla-flavored sticks. Tiana got the packet of watermelon-flavored powder. This was met with some amount of [[http://thegrio.com/2012/03/05/black-disney-princess-tiana-appears-on-watermelon-candy-package/ [[http://theweek.com/articles/477567/disneys-black-princess-selling-watermelon-candy-racist controversy]].
14th Apr '17 5:15:29 PM maxwellsilver
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** There's also the matter of other Disney heroines not being included - especially with Mulan and Pocahontas not technically being royalty (though Pocahontas is described as a princess to the King of England in her sequel movie). Esmerelda appeared to be part of the initial line but was dropped after a while. This extends to girls that are canonically princesses in their films - such as Eilonwy from ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' and Kida from ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire''. It's theorised that it's because their films didn't do well at the box office.

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** There's also the matter of other Disney heroines not being included - especially with Mulan and Pocahontas not technically being royalty (though Pocahontas is described as a princess to the King of England in her sequel movie). Esmerelda Esmeralda appeared to be part of the initial line but was dropped after a while. This extends to girls that are canonically princesses in their films - such as Eilonwy from ''Disney/TheBlackCauldron'' and Kida from ''Disney/AtlantisTheLostEmpire''. It's theorised that it's because their films didn't do well at the box office. Then there's the decision to keep ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' a separate entity from the Disney Princess line.



* MemeticMutation: Ever since Disney's purchase of both Marvel and Lucasfilm, a popular internet meme is to label princesses from either Marvel or StarWars as Disney Princesses.
** Also, artistic portrayals of the Princesses as pretty much anything you could think of.

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Ever since Disney's purchase of both Marvel and Lucasfilm, a popular internet meme is to label princesses from either Marvel or StarWars as Disney Princesses.
** Also, artistic Artistic portrayals of the Princesses as pretty much anything you could think of.of.
** Calling Kuzco from ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove'' one's favourite princess.
29th Dec '16 6:07:34 AM darkabomination
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*** ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' fans have been somewhat divided over the prospect she could join, though most seem to support it. The main debate is if she's technically a princess or not. She's [[InsistentTerminology a chief's daughter]], and her culture lacks the connotation of princess. On the other, even Maui points out that she fulfills the qualifications, brave, strong, sings, has an animal sidekick, and her title is the closest to a princess anyway. A concern for fans is her body type, which was made to go against the mold as she has a lot of muscle and built to look like it.
10th Nov '16 12:28:06 PM Berrenta
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* GirlsNeedRoleModels: Initially when the line-up was created this was a large factor behind it. Certainly all of them are in possession of admirable "role model" traits, particularly for their era. This is generally how Disney defends the inclusion of non-princesses, citing that its their quality of character that makes them a Disney Princess. That said, [[BaseBreakeringCharacter a good many of them have come under fire for allegedly not fulfilling their role model status well enough]].
13th Jul '16 7:59:19 PM Anddrix
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* GirlsNeedRoleModels: Initially when the line-up was created this was a large factor behind it. Certainly all of them are in possession of admirable "role model" traits, particularly for their era. This is generally how Disney defends the inclusion of non-princesses, citing that its their quality of character that makes them a Disney Princess. That said, [[BaseBreaker a good many of them have come under fire for allegedly not fulfilling their role model status well enough]].

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* GirlsNeedRoleModels: Initially when the line-up was created this was a large factor behind it. Certainly all of them are in possession of admirable "role model" traits, particularly for their era. This is generally how Disney defends the inclusion of non-princesses, citing that its their quality of character that makes them a Disney Princess. That said, [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakeringCharacter a good many of them have come under fire for allegedly not fulfilling their role model status well enough]].
24th May '16 3:50:25 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* PuritySue: Many of the Disney Princess are {{beaut|yEqualsGoodness}}iful, [[TheIngenue kind]], a FriendToAllLivingThings, instantly beloved by anyone who isn't an inveterate {{Jerkass}}, and generally flawless. In particular Snow White, Cinderella, Aurora, Belle, Pocahontas, and Rapunzel who lack any stand-out flaws.
11th Apr '16 5:56:56 PM MagBas
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** The classic princesses--Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora--are often criticized in fandom (and media) that believes they are terrible role models, boring {{Mary Sue}}s, shallow characters, and bad examples of feminism. Alternatively, many others see them as having perhaps aged not quite well, but still good characters that were limited by the time period they were in and made in, or even refreshingly different in their gentler personalities than the type of heroines usually made today.

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** The classic princesses--Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora--are often criticized in fandom (and media) that believes they are terrible role models, boring {{Mary Sue}}s, shallow characters, and bad examples of feminism. Alternatively, many others see them as having perhaps aged not quite well, but still good characters that were limited by the time period they were in and made in, or even refreshingly different in their gentler personalities than the type of heroines usually made today.



** Pocahontas. Fans either think a decent role model that stand out due to the GreenAesop of her movie despite the glaring historical inaccuracy or an incredibly shallow MarySue with little personality, preachy message and an insult to the real Pocahontas. And then there are people who think that while a passable character, she and her movie is a total letdown compare to the previous installment's incredibly flawed protagonist Simba from ''The Lion King''.

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** Pocahontas. Fans either think a decent role model that stand out due to the GreenAesop of her movie despite the glaring historical inaccuracy or an incredibly shallow MarySue character with little personality, preachy message and an insult to the real Pocahontas. And then there are people who think that while a passable character, she and her movie is a total letdown compare to the previous installment's incredibly flawed protagonist Simba from ''The Lion King''.
27th Mar '16 4:30:04 PM PerfumePreppy
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** Also, artistic portrayals of the Princesses as pretty much anything you could think of.
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