History YMMV / DigitalDevilSaga

7th Jan '18 8:30:50 AM rixion
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Heat was this to the Atlus staff at least during the first game. He's fairly popular among fans as well, thanks to his AxeCrazy disposition.



* {{Moe}}: Sera

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* %%* {{Moe}}: Sera
9th Dec '17 7:58:08 AM RedRoverRedRover
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* The Karma Tower. Not only does pretty much every part of it look the same, but it goes on and on and on...

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* ** The Karma Tower. Not only does pretty much every part of it look the same, but it goes on and on and on...
9th Dec '17 7:57:10 AM RedRoverRedRover
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** The FinalBoss of the first game, [[spoiler:Harihara]], has 3 forms, spread out over 2 battles. None of them are particularly menacing.
8th Dec '17 2:37:06 PM RedRoverRedRover
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* The Karma Tower. Not only does pretty much every part of it look the same, but it goes on and on and on...
8th Nov '17 4:08:08 PM HamburgerTime
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* LateArrivalSpoiler: The mysterious "Angel" that kicks off the plot of the first game is actually a woman named Jenna Angel. She only appears as a disembodied voice until the last boss fight, but she's shown as herself from the beginning of the second game, and the game assumes you know who she is.
27th Aug '17 5:16:46 PM balr0g
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** [[spoiler: Brahma]] has something akin to the [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne Amala Drums]] on the heads of his various forms. Let that sink in for a minute. Though it is confirmed inseries he is not connected to [[spoiler:God/Great Will]] by Schrodinger himself.

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** [[spoiler: Brahma]] Brahman]] has something akin to the [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne Amala Drums]] on the heads of his various forms. Let that sink in for a minute. Though it is confirmed inseries he is not connected to [[spoiler:God/Great Will]] by Schrodinger himself.
7th Jul '17 2:10:12 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* ItWasHisSled: The BonusBoss fight with [[spoiler:the Demi-Fiend]] in the first game is so infamous that few fans call it a spoiler anymore.
25th Mar '17 4:45:00 AM CybranGeneralSturm
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* TierInducedScrappy: Cielo in the first game, due to his iffy stat distribution and weakness to ''all status ailments''. This is possible to fix with Null Ailment, but this is only obtained very late in the game. He is RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap somewhat in the sequel due to better stat distribution.

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* TierInducedScrappy: Cielo in the first game, due to his iffy stat distribution and weakness to ''all status ailments''. This is possible to fix with Null Ailment, but this is usually only obtained very late in the game. He is RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap somewhat in the sequel due to better stat distribution.



** As mentioned above, Varin Omega's Hunger Wave is the only reason his second form isn't a total joke. It's also not a particularly threatening attack, just very, very annoying. It inflicts Hunger status on a random number of party members. Hungry characters will spend their turn either doing nothing or attacking an ally. (And if you just Power Charged or used Tarukaja...) The only cure for Hunger status is Sera's song, and she can only sing for one ally per turn. And even then, ''who'' she sings for is random. So you can be critically low on health and Sera decides not to cure your healer. And if all three allies get hit with Hunger, you're not doing anything productive for a while.

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** As mentioned above, Varin Omega's Hunger Wave is the only reason his second form isn't a total joke.joke in the first game. It's also not a particularly threatening attack, just very, very annoying. It inflicts Hunger status on a random number of party members. Hungry characters will spend their turn either doing nothing or attacking an ally. (And if you just Power Charged or used Tarukaja...) The only cure for Hunger status is Sera's song, and she can only sing for one ally per turn. And even then, ''who'' she sings for is random. So you can be critically low on health and Sera decides not to cure your healer. And if all three allies get hit with Hunger, you're not doing anything productive for a while. [[spoiler:[[FinalBoss Harihara]] also uses it in the second phase of the battle against her]].
24th Mar '17 9:35:46 PM BigKlingy
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* FashionVictimVillain: Margot Cuvier's outfit wouldn't look out of place in Music/LadyGaga's wardrobe

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* FashionVictimVillain: Margot Cuvier's outfit wouldn't look out of place in Music/LadyGaga's wardrobewardrobe.
* GameBreaker:
** [[MinMaxing Putting all of Serph's stat points into a single stat]] can lead to some hilarious results, especially Magic. He'll be a GlassCannon, but his spell damage output will quickly become ''much'' higher than enemies and bosses of his level are designed to handle, enabling him to blast through them in a few turns. The Magic stat also raises MP, giving Serph way more than he ever needs and allowing him to top up the party's health with basic Dia after every battle at next to no cost, meaning you won't need to rely on Heal Terminals or the LevelUpFillUp for most of the game.
** Cocytus in the first game. True, it's obtained from a BonusBoss, but it's one that can be defeated fairly early on. It hits all enemies multiple times for decently-high Ice damage and has a ''very'' high chance of Freeze. And frozen enemies always get criticaled by physical attacks. The freezing can even affect some enemies that are immune to ailments, too. Combine this with a Magic-optimised Serph and Mind Charge...
** Zig-Zagged with Debilitate. It's practically required for any of the [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]] (and they'll use it on you as well), but if you know the Mantra grid you can go for it pretty early on, and it makes a lot of storyline bosses a ''complete joke''. Especially since bosses don't start using Dekunda until the endgame.
* GoddamnedBoss: Varin Omega isn't that hard, but both his forms have annoying luck-based gimmicks. For his first he's invisible, so you need to target one of 6 empty spots and hope you hit him. Sera gives you hints on where he is, but she can only narrow it down to two spots at most, meaning you still have to go through at least a coin flip before you can damage him. Thought you could cheese it by using spread moves? [[DevelopersForesight Nope, they automatically miss.]] This effectively renders this form immune to debuffs too, as all of them are spread moves in this game. His second form has Hunger Wave, detailed under ThatOneAttack below.


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** As mentioned above, Varin Omega's Hunger Wave is the only reason his second form isn't a total joke. It's also not a particularly threatening attack, just very, very annoying. It inflicts Hunger status on a random number of party members. Hungry characters will spend their turn either doing nothing or attacking an ally. (And if you just Power Charged or used Tarukaja...) The only cure for Hunger status is Sera's song, and she can only sing for one ally per turn. And even then, ''who'' she sings for is random. So you can be critically low on health and Sera decides not to cure your healer. And if all three allies get hit with Hunger, you're not doing anything productive for a while.


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* UglyCute: Nidhoggr is definitely ugly, but when you fight a horde of ''tiny'' ones as a miniboss in the Brutes' Base, combined with the high-pitched squeaking noises they make when casting spells or calling for reinforcements, they're strangely adorable. [[MoodWhiplash Until one of them starts devouring the others to get bigger, that is.]]
22nd Mar '17 7:48:45 AM Kafkesque
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** The "Normal Battle" theme is awesome in [[ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne its own game]], but gets turned UpToEleven here. That's right, you're nothing but a forgettable random encounter to [[BonusBoss the Demi-Fiend]].
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