History YMMV / DevilSurvivor2

4th Dec '17 7:58:42 AM rixion
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[RightHandHottie Makoto]], [[GentleGiant Jungo]], [[{{Jerkass}} Yamato]] and Alcor are very popular in the fandom.
** Fumi's also majorly popular, due to her [[DeadpanSnarker snarky attitude]], intelligence, and being one of the most powerful characters in-battle, often being able to solo tough bosses by herself.
2nd Nov '17 10:05:24 PM OmegaRadiance
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** The [[spoiler: Meritocracy]] ending. Although it was set up earlier on to be an unfriendly world, a lot of the arguments in the game suggests that they can make it a world of peace, where people can be judged fairly, by their own merits. But when we see it, it's very clearly a bad ending. [[spoiler: A woman stops a JP's agent from killing a man, but only because she doesn't want to see the fighting; she's fine with the man starving to death because he's worthless and talentless. People in general crowd around those with power, and those who were helped by the old system are ousted viciously.]] When you're convincing your friends to join this route, you're unwittingly lying to them about what the end result will be.
1st Oct '17 10:41:36 PM GordyTepig
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** The [[spoiler: Meritocracy]] ending. Although it was set up earlier on to be an unfriendly world, a lot of the arguments in the game suggests that they can make it a world of peace, where people can be judged fairly, by their own merits. But when we see it, it's very clearly a bad ending. [[spoiler: A woman stops a JP's agent from killing a man, but only because she doesn't want to see the fighting; she's fine with the man starving to death because he's worthless and talentless. People in general crowd around those with power, and those who were helped by the old system are ousted viciously.]] When you're convincing your friends to join this route, you're unwittingly lying to them about what the end result will be.
1st Oct '17 10:27:44 PM GordyTepig
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Some people see Daichi as annoying, clueless and whiny, while others find him relatable, reliable, and reasonable. Even having him on your team is divisive: he's among the best Physical hitters in the game, but would be near-useless if you choose to make your character Physical attack-based.



*** Not to mention the person Ronaldo wants to avenge [[spoiler:''isn't even dead!'' (At least until he's slain by the demons he summoned). Ronaldo, admittedly, has no way of knowing this, especially since Yamato felt free to claim the kill sight unseen.]]

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*** Not to mention the person Ronaldo wants to avenge [[spoiler:''isn't even dead!'' (At least until he's slain by the demons he summoned). Ronaldo, admittedly, has no way of knowing this, especially since Yamato felt free to claim the kill sight unseen.unseen, and Yamato holds the VillainBall and acts vague about killing him.]]



* ScrappyMechanic: The Fate System, where nearly everything you say and do impacts your relationships with characters. While people love the character development it offers, the execution itself is terrible. Characters and stories (particularly in the Triangulum Arc) often hinge so much on it, but the game offers no real indication how you're doing. It forces you to either make mistakes and lock yourself out of an ending you might want, or only play the game when you have a guide nearby. Being able to have so many options for your character's personality is near-meaningless when most of your options require you to act in certain ways depending on the plot or characters. Further, some answers you can give characters are considered "wrong," even when they logically should be - the Anguished One usually appreciates your kindness to him, but sometimes he'd rather have you say something harsh or ignore the chance to be nice. The system becomes even worse in the Triangulum Arc. To do well with it, you have to obsessively micromanage all your time, play a character in a way you might not agree with, and keep a guide handy at all times.
* TakeThatScrappy: For those who see Ronaldo as TheScrappy find it very satisfying to see him [[spoiler: killed during Yamato and Alcor's route]].
* TierInducedScrappy: Io and Makoto to an extent. Because they're {{Magic Knight}}s that lean toward attack and magic trying to balance it out, one stat will be better than the other but in exchange will leave the vitality and agility at a horrible pace. As a result Yamato is the best choice of the MagicKnight because instead of balancing all of his stats out, he maxes attack and magic while sacrificing vitality and agility making him a GlassCannon instead of a MagicKnight that favors either attack or magic. His innate resistance to physical (and almighty!) makes him the ideal user of anti-most as well.

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* ScrappyMechanic: The Fate System, where nearly everything you say and do impacts your relationships with characters. While people love the character development it offers, the execution itself is terrible. Characters and stories (particularly in the Triangulum Arc) often hinge so much on it, but the game offers no real indication how you're doing. It forces you to either make mistakes and lock yourself out of an ending you might want, or only play the game when you have a guide nearby. Being able to have so many options for your character's personality is near-meaningless when most of your options require you to act in certain ways depending on the plot or characters. Further, some answers you can give characters are considered "wrong," even when they logically should be - the Anguished One usually appreciates your kindness to him, but sometimes he'd rather have you say something harsh or ignore the chance to be nice. The system becomes even worse in the Triangulum Arc. To do well Arc; while you don't need to have good relations with it, you friends in order to keep them alive/on your side, you have even less time to obsessively micromanage develop the relations and hang out with everyone.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The Triangulum arc. The story heavily relies on a [[DracoInLeatherPants heavily]] [[TookALevelInKindness idealized]] version of Yamato and
all your time, play a character in a way you might not agree with, his hard work, at the cost of bad {{Flanderization}} of some other characters. Since the story has less enemies, and keep a guide handy at all times.
lot of the plot involves characters having to regain their memories and getting back together, there's a lot of padding to spread out the length of the arc.
* TakeThatScrappy: For those Those who see Ronaldo as TheScrappy find it very satisfying to see him [[spoiler: killed during Yamato and Alcor's route]].
* TierInducedScrappy: Io and Makoto to an extent. Because they're {{Magic Knight}}s that lean toward attack and magic trying to balance it out, one stat will be better than the other but in exchange will leave the vitality and agility at a horrible pace. As a result Yamato is the best choice of the MagicKnight because instead of balancing all of his stats out, he maxes attack and magic while sacrificing vitality and agility agility, making him a GlassCannon instead of a MagicKnight that favors either attack or magic. His innate resistance to physical (and almighty!) makes him the ideal user of anti-most as well.
24th Aug '17 8:15:36 PM VeryMelon
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* GameBreaker:
** Now that racial skills can evolve, previous combinations in the previous game become EVEN more broken than before if you put a good combination. Evil Flow + Matchless = Attack twice from 6 squares away from the enemy AND heal yourself twice if needed. Or Evil Flow + Chaos Breath for functionally 11 attack range in exchange for barely getting turns. Or Winged Flight + Chaos Breath to counter the movement debuff. Or Blood Treaty + Victory Cry for free Megidolaon attacks.
** Multi Strike, a skill that does damage based on both agility and strength, always hit the same amount of time(2-7 depending on the agility difference instead of random like say, Deathbound) and [[CastFromHitPoints relatively low HP cost]]. Also, since its an Agility based move, it has priority over most other actions. A skirmish after this skill is usable against non Physical repelling enemy generally consists of use Multi Strike, win, next battle. Toss in Pierce/Pierce + and Drain Hit, and you'll pretty much never need healing ever again.
** Holy Dance retains its status from [=DS1=], coming relatively early, has far less cost than Megido, and is more effective than Megidolaon against single targets. Plop it on your best Magic-based demons (preferably with Victory Cry/Mana Aid), and dance the night away.
** The Auto Skill Grace + Drain. Grace has your character cast Prayer at the start of every battle, which heals your party to full and cures any status ailments. If you give Drain to someone with a high Magic stat, the MP stolen from enemies will both offset Prayer's high cost AND heal the player if they still need it.
** If you have Battle Aura, attacks that do 50 or less damage will not harm your team at all, and it comes with a very low cost of 10 MP per skirmish. If you have Anti-Most and something and a Resist/Drain/Null/Repel Phys trait, you and your team cannot be touched by anything short of Almighty moves. Bonus if you have Anti-Almighty, making you virtually untouchable. If you have a Tyrant (which auto-restores MP for you), you also never run out of MP to keep this going.
** Individual Demon wise there's Da Peng and [[spoiler:Lucifer]]. Da Peng has perfectly placed stats and innate skills for Multi Strike, and best of all, it's not a unique demon and comes with one of the best Racial skill in the game. Additionally, it's only weakness, Fire, is painfully easy to fuse over by ranking up Heng Huang, who naturally learns Drain Fire; while [[spoiler:Lucifer]] has all around good stats, and hidden resistance modifier to everything even Almighty and Reflect Curse, which stack with its innate resistance to everything. Their downside are they are realistically only unlockable in NewGamePlus thanks to their high level, that and you need to [[spoiler:take Al Saiduq's route to unlock Lucifer]].
** There's also Purple Mirror and Titania. Which are demons in the 50s-60s that repel/null almost everything. Put on phys repel and a null curse/repel wind to the two things they are weak to, and you have demons that can only be harmed by almighty.
*** Ditto Metatron, who Nulls or Repels everything but Wind and Elec. And unlike Titania, doesn't need to be unlocked with the Fate System, though he's slightly higher leveled.
*** Record Breaker adds the Frost Five to this group, whose only weakness (fire) is taken care of by one of its fusion components naturally having Fire Repel.
*** Hathor is a low-level demon with a crippling weakness to Phys, but is one of the earliest available magical nukers. Have her inherit Magic, give her a few Dances, and watch as she blows through Septentriones with relative ease.
*** [[http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/53796/t1719714-ways-to-tone-down-difficulty-new-game-plus-onwards/ Here's a link to a topic dedicated to listing gamebreakers on New Game Plus.]]
** Not as big of an example as some of the others, but if you manage to defeat Botis on Day 3, you can get access to Ziodyne well in advance of other spells of its level.

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* GameBreaker:
** Now that racial skills can evolve, previous combinations in the previous game become EVEN more broken than before if you put a good combination. Evil Flow + Matchless = Attack twice from 6 squares away from the enemy AND heal yourself twice if needed. Or Evil Flow + Chaos Breath for functionally 11 attack range in exchange for barely getting turns. Or Winged Flight + Chaos Breath to counter the movement debuff. Or Blood Treaty + Victory Cry for free Megidolaon attacks.
** Multi Strike, a skill that does damage based on both agility and strength, always hit the same amount of time(2-7 depending on the agility difference instead of random like say, Deathbound) and [[CastFromHitPoints relatively low HP cost]]. Also, since its an Agility based move, it has priority over most other actions. A skirmish after this skill is usable against non Physical repelling enemy generally consists of use Multi Strike, win, next battle. Toss in Pierce/Pierce + and Drain Hit, and you'll pretty much never need healing ever again.
** Holy Dance retains its status from [=DS1=], coming relatively early, has far less cost than Megido, and is more effective than Megidolaon against single targets. Plop it on your best Magic-based demons (preferably with Victory Cry/Mana Aid), and dance the night away.
** The Auto Skill Grace + Drain. Grace has your character cast Prayer at the start of every battle, which heals your party to full and cures any status ailments. If you give Drain to someone with a high Magic stat, the MP stolen from enemies will both offset Prayer's high cost AND heal the player if they still need it.
** If you have Battle Aura, attacks that do 50 or less damage will not harm your team at all, and it comes with a very low cost of 10 MP per skirmish. If you have Anti-Most and something and a Resist/Drain/Null/Repel Phys trait, you and your team cannot be touched by anything short of Almighty moves. Bonus if you have Anti-Almighty, making you virtually untouchable. If you have a Tyrant (which auto-restores MP for you), you also never run out of MP to keep this going.
** Individual Demon wise there's Da Peng and [[spoiler:Lucifer]]. Da Peng has perfectly placed stats and innate skills for Multi Strike, and best of all, it's not a unique demon and comes with one of the best Racial skill in the game. Additionally, it's only weakness, Fire, is painfully easy to fuse over by ranking up Heng Huang, who naturally learns Drain Fire; while [[spoiler:Lucifer]] has all around good stats, and hidden resistance modifier to everything even Almighty and Reflect Curse, which stack with its innate resistance to everything. Their downside are they are realistically only unlockable in NewGamePlus thanks to their high level, that and you need to [[spoiler:take Al Saiduq's route to unlock Lucifer]].
** There's also Purple Mirror and Titania. Which are demons in the 50s-60s that repel/null almost everything. Put on phys repel and a null curse/repel wind to the two things they are weak to, and you have demons that can only be harmed by almighty.
*** Ditto Metatron, who Nulls or Repels everything but Wind and Elec. And unlike Titania, doesn't need to be unlocked with the Fate System, though he's slightly higher leveled.
*** Record Breaker adds the Frost Five to this group, whose only weakness (fire) is taken care of by one of its fusion components naturally having Fire Repel.
*** Hathor is a low-level demon with a crippling weakness to Phys, but is one of the earliest available magical nukers. Have her inherit Magic, give her a few Dances, and watch as she blows through Septentriones with relative ease.
*** [[http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/53796/t1719714-ways-to-tone-down-difficulty-new-game-plus-onwards/ Here's a link to a topic dedicated to listing gamebreakers on New Game Plus.]]
** Not as big of an example as some of the others, but if you manage to defeat Botis on Day 3, you can get access to Ziodyne well in advance of other spells of its level.
GameBreaker: Listed [[GameBreaker/ShinMegamiTensei here]].
23rd Jun '17 8:33:27 PM MiracleChange
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** Jungo, being a GentleGiant and all.
8th May '17 12:23:15 PM Neoxys
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** Speaking of Yamato, if you decide to side with an opposing faction during the endgame, he will go full-on Yandere on the main character, saying that the other faction had "corrupted" him and went mad during their battle.



** The battle against Benetnasch. The human characters [[spoiler: including Anguished One, if one is on his route]] cannot harm it at all, so all damage must be done by demons. And when Benetnasch's HP is lowered enough, the second phase begins, in which it separates itself into four pieces, each modeled after one of the previously beaten Septentriones. And it's still only damaged through demons.

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** The battle against Benetnasch. The human characters [[spoiler: including and Anguished One, if one is on his route]] cannot harm it at all, so all damage must be done by demons. And when Benetnasch's HP is lowered enough, the second phase begins, in which it separates itself into four pieces, each modeled after one of the previously beaten Septentriones. And it's still only damaged through demons.Oh, and you better take care of Trumpeter. If he dies, mission failed.
3rd May '17 8:53:39 PM Angeldeb82
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The normal [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIWkRdXEAYg Confrontation battlefield theme]] is definitely something to listen to while rushing to engage demons.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aokdYand9vY Operation Starts]] theme is also definitely something to listen to.
** There's also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOaJ84eBO6o Challenging Fate]], the battlefield theme that plays when you rescue someone from their Death Clip.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxRXBxRux4I Septentrion]], the battlefield theme for Septentrion battles, is strangely calm and gives a sense of just how alien your opponent is. There's also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rUSLxp0ZEA Will of the Species]], a slower remix that plays as the battlefield theme for [[spoiler:Polaris]].
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDc0ihzOaI Battle of the Brave]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_4YqXNl-PY Akashic Records]] / [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRuezCfYDM Arrange of Akashic Records]]
** Record Breaker gives us [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQ2Py5h1xQ Vulnerable Threat]], the map theme for Triangulum battles.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhO4iZABcVg Providence]] battle field theme and its accompanying battle theme [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZQ3MWf-m1k At Last]] for the final boss tracks.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The normal [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIWkRdXEAYg&feature=player_embedded#!Confrontation battlefield theme ]], is definitely something to listen to while rushing to engage demons.
** The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aokdYand9vY Operation Starts]] theme is also definitely something to listen to.
** There's also [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOaJ84eBO6o Challenging Fate,]] the battlefield theme that plays when you rescue someone from their Death Clip.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxRXBxRux4I Septentrion,]] the battlefield theme for Septentrion battles, is strangely calm and gives a sense of just how alien your opponent is. There's also [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rUSLxp0ZEA Will of the Species,]] a slower remix that plays as the battlefield theme for [[spoiler:Polaris.]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDc0ihzOaI Battle of the Brave]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_4YqXNl-PY Akashic Records]] / [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRuezCfYDM Arrange of Akashic Records]]
** Record Breaker gives us [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQ2Py5h1xQ Vulnerable Threat]], the map theme for Triangulum battles.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhO4iZABcVg Providence]] battle field theme and its accompanying battle theme [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZQ3MWf-m1k At Last]] for the final boss tracks.
* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}: [[RightHandHottie Makoto]], [[GentleGiant Jungo]], [[{{Jerkass}} Yamato]] and Alcor are very popular in the fandom.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The normal [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIWkRdXEAYg&feature=player_embedded#!Confrontation battlefield theme ]], is definitely something to listen to while rushing to engage demons.
** The [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aokdYand9vY Operation Starts]] theme is also definitely something to listen to.
** There's also [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOaJ84eBO6o Challenging Fate,]] the battlefield theme that plays when you rescue someone from their Death Clip.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxRXBxRux4I Septentrion,]] the battlefield theme for Septentrion battles, is strangely calm and gives a sense of just how alien your opponent is. There's also [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rUSLxp0ZEA Will of the Species,]] a slower remix that plays as the battlefield theme for [[spoiler:Polaris.]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDc0ihzOaI Battle of the Brave]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_4YqXNl-PY Akashic Records]] / [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRuezCfYDM Arrange of Akashic Records]]
** Record Breaker gives us [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQ2Py5h1xQ Vulnerable Threat]], the map theme for Triangulum battles.
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhO4iZABcVg Providence]] battle field theme and its accompanying battle theme [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZQ3MWf-m1k At Last]] for the final boss tracks.
* {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}:
EnsembleDarkhorse: [[RightHandHottie Makoto]], [[GentleGiant Jungo]], [[{{Jerkass}} Yamato]] and Alcor are very popular in the fandom.



* EsotericHappyEnding: The [[spoiler:Liberator]] Ending. You decide to [[spoiler:kill Polaris. The only problem is that you've removed all supernatural influence from the world, even the good ones. The void isn't undone, leaving only Tokyo and a sea of undrinkable water. You pretty much doomed what's left of humanity to slowly starve to death, and yet the game treats this ending as a good thing.]] On the bright side, [[TheApocalypseBringsOutTheBestInPeople the disaster is finally bringing out the best in people]]. At least until [[UpdatedRerelease Record Breaker]] reveals what will inevitably happen with [[spoiler:Polaris death]].
* EvenBetterSequel: Opinions vary on the [[LighterAndSofter lighter story]] and [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters large cast]], but from a gameplay standpoint Devil Survivor 2 is a step above its [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor predecessor]] in every way, with a greater variety of races and larger roster of demons allowing for hundreds of combinations, creatively designed, multi-tiered environments, and best of all, [[ScrappyLevel the escort missions are far less annoying.]]
* {{Fan Preferred Couple}}: [[HoYay Hero/Yamato]] and Jungo/Airi are very popular pairings.

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* EsotericHappyEnding: The [[spoiler:Liberator]] Ending. You decide to [[spoiler:kill Polaris. The only problem is that you've removed all supernatural influence from the world, even the good ones. The void isn't undone, leaving only Tokyo and a sea of undrinkable water. You pretty much doomed what's left of humanity to slowly starve to death, and yet the game treats this ending as a good thing.]] thing]]. On the bright side, [[TheApocalypseBringsOutTheBestInPeople the disaster is finally bringing out the best in people]]. At least until [[UpdatedRerelease Record Breaker]] reveals what will inevitably happen with [[spoiler:Polaris [[spoiler:Polaris' death]].
* EvenBetterSequel: Opinions vary on the [[LighterAndSofter lighter story]] and [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters large cast]], but from a gameplay standpoint Devil Survivor 2 is a step above its [[VideoGame/DevilSurvivor predecessor]] in every way, with a greater variety of races and larger roster of demons allowing for hundreds of combinations, creatively designed, multi-tiered environments, and best of all, [[ScrappyLevel [[ThatOneLevel the escort missions are far less annoying.]]
annoying]].
* {{Fan Preferred Couple}}: FanPreferredCouple: [[HoYay Hero/Yamato]] and Jungo/Airi are very popular pairings.



** There's plenty of this in Miyako and [[spoiler:the more neutral Al Saiduq after he tries to mend things for when she captured him.]] She acts extremely tsun when he honestly tries to be friends with her again.

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** There's plenty of this in Miyako and [[spoiler:the more neutral Al Saiduq after he tries to mend things for when she captured him.]] him]]. She acts extremely tsun when he honestly tries to be friends with her again.



* HoYay: One could make a serious case for Yamoto having a severe crush on the Hero (albeit due to his stunted emotional understanding he doesn't view it in those terms). To wit, not only does he make it quite clear he regards the Hero as his most reliable subordinate and has many moments where he drops his JerkAss manner (as much as he's capable of at least) and acts relatively decent to said Hero. In fact he [[spoiler: will flip his shit if you don't pick the Chaos route, even trying to [[MurderTheHypotenuse murder the other good guys]] for "corrupting" the Hero, who he is convinced would join his side again if only the meddling secondary influences were removed.]] The telling part about this behavior is that he really wouldn't NEED your Hero's help explicitly by this point, [[{{Yandere}} he just wants him by his side no matter what.]] And, if you get him to rejoin you, he phrases the way he felt for you as "yearning".

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* HoYay: One could make a serious case for Yamoto having a severe crush on the Hero (albeit due to his stunted emotional understanding he doesn't view it in those terms). To wit, not only does he make it quite clear he regards the Hero as his most reliable subordinate and has many moments where he drops his JerkAss {{Jerkass}} manner (as much as he's capable of at least) and acts relatively decent to said Hero. In fact he [[spoiler: will flip his shit if you don't pick the Chaos route, even trying to [[MurderTheHypotenuse murder the other good guys]] for "corrupting" the Hero, who he is convinced would join his side again if only the meddling secondary influences were removed.]] removed]]. The telling part about this behavior is that he really wouldn't NEED your Hero's help explicitly by this point, [[{{Yandere}} he just wants him by his side no matter what.]] And, if you get him to rejoin you, he phrases the way he felt for you as "yearning".



** At one point he smiles 'teasingly' at you. At another, he says "That's my [[[HelloInsertNameHere character name]].]"

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** At one point he smiles 'teasingly' at you. At another, he says "That's my [[[HelloInsertNameHere character name]].]"name]]]."



** Also a large amount of LesYay between Airi and Hinako, where Airi starts of snarky (tsun) towards Hinako, and eventually seriously warms up to her beginning with complimenting her dancing.

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** Also a large amount of LesYay [[HoYay Les Yay]] between Airi and Hinako, where Airi starts of snarky (tsun) towards Hinako, and eventually seriously warms up to her beginning with complimenting her dancing.



** Miyako to some people. [[spoiler:Her reincarnated form as a young girl ''screams'' this trope when she's shown with a picture of her flashing a smile]].

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** Miyako to some people. [[spoiler:Her reincarnated form as a young girl ''screams'' this trope when she's shown with a picture of her flashing a smile]].smile.]]



** Ronaldo also gets a lot of hate due to [[spoiler:[[UngratefulBastard killing Makoto if you assist him during the riot,]]]] but there is also the fact that his [[spoiler:Keisuke-like]] tendencies are a bit too much, even though it's ForGreatJustice.

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** Ronaldo also gets a lot of hate due to [[spoiler:[[UngratefulBastard killing Makoto if you assist him during the riot,]]]] riot]]]], but there is also the fact that his [[spoiler:Keisuke-like]] tendencies are a bit too much, even though it's ForGreatJustice.



** Keita is generally disliked for being a jerk with no real development or redeeming qualities (unless you go through his FATE route but even then he's still a huge {{Jerkass}} in comparison to Yamato who does show change in his character) ([[GuideDangIt Unless]] you kill off Jungo, a [[EnsembleDarkhorse much better liked character]].)

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** Keita is generally disliked for being a jerk with no real development or redeeming qualities (unless you go through his FATE route but even then he's still a huge {{Jerkass}} in comparison to Yamato who does show change in his character) character). ([[GuideDangIt Unless]] you kill off Jungo, a [[EnsembleDarkhorse much better liked character]].)



* {{Take that Scrappy}}: For those who see Ronaldo as {{The Scrappy}} find it very satisfying to see him [[spoiler: killed during Yamato and Alcor's route.]]
* TierInducedScrappy: Io and Makoto to an extent. Because they're [[MagicKnight Magic Knights]] that lean toward attack and magic trying to balance it out, one stat will be better than the other but in exchange will leave the vitality and agility at a horrible pace. As a result Yamato is the best choice of the {{Magic Knight}} because instead of balancing all of his stats out, he maxs attack and magic while sacrificing vitality and agility making him a {{Glass Cannon}} instead of a {{Magic Knight}} that favors either attack or magic. His innate resistance to physical (and almighty!) makes him the ideal user of anti-most as well.

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* {{Take that Scrappy}}: TakeThatScrappy: For those who see Ronaldo as {{The Scrappy}} TheScrappy find it very satisfying to see him [[spoiler: killed during Yamato and Alcor's route.]]
route]].
* TierInducedScrappy: Io and Makoto to an extent. Because they're [[MagicKnight Magic Knights]] {{Magic Knight}}s that lean toward attack and magic trying to balance it out, one stat will be better than the other but in exchange will leave the vitality and agility at a horrible pace. As a result Yamato is the best choice of the {{Magic Knight}} MagicKnight because instead of balancing all of his stats out, he maxs maxes attack and magic while sacrificing vitality and agility making him a {{Glass Cannon}} GlassCannon instead of a {{Magic Knight}} MagicKnight that favors either attack or magic. His innate resistance to physical (and almighty!) makes him the ideal user of anti-most as well.
17th Mar '17 2:28:33 AM Supreme-X15
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** Also from the Triangulum arc, Io is quite to determined to win Miyako's friendship. She even grabs her hand in one event, and in that same event, it almost looks like a lover's spat.



* {{Moe}}: Miyako to some people. [[spoiler:Her reincarnated form as a young girl ''screams'' this trope when she's shown with a picture of her flashing a smile]].

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* {{Moe}}: Io's quiet demure and nice figure makes her quite Moe. There's also Airi, being the smallest girl in the game, and an adorably little {{tsundere}}.
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Miyako to some people. [[spoiler:Her reincarnated form as a young girl ''screams'' this trope when she's shown with a picture of her flashing a smile]].
16th Mar '17 7:07:54 PM infernape612
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* EsotericHappyEnding: The [[spoiler:Liberator]] Ending. You decide to[[spoiler: kill Polaris. The only problem is that you've removed all supernatural influence from the world, even the good ones. The void isn't undone, leaving only Tokyo and a sea of undrinkable water. You pretty much doomed what's left of humanity to slowly starve to death, and yet the game treats this ending as a good thing.]] On the bright side, [[TheApocalypseBringsOutTheBestInPeople the disaster is finally bringing out the best in people]]. At least until [[UpdatedRerelease Record Breaker]] reveals what will inevitably happen with [[spoiler:Polaris death]].

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* EsotericHappyEnding: The [[spoiler:Liberator]] Ending. You decide to[[spoiler: kill to [[spoiler:kill Polaris. The only problem is that you've removed all supernatural influence from the world, even the good ones. The void isn't undone, leaving only Tokyo and a sea of undrinkable water. You pretty much doomed what's left of humanity to slowly starve to death, and yet the game treats this ending as a good thing.]] On the bright side, [[TheApocalypseBringsOutTheBestInPeople the disaster is finally bringing out the best in people]]. At least until [[UpdatedRerelease Record Breaker]] reveals what will inevitably happen with [[spoiler:Polaris death]].
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