History YMMV / Devil

16th Dec '17 5:22:29 PM KizunaTallis
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* BileFascination: Much of the audiences were drawn in by (negative) word of mouth of how entire ''theatres'' bursting into ''laughter'' at the sight of "Produced by Creator/MNightShyamalan" during screenings of its trailer.
* BrokenBase: Some felt that this movie was, while not as good as early Shyamalan, at least a return to form. Others felt it was so bad as when the others.

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* BileFascination: Much of the audiences were audience was drawn in by (negative) word of mouth of how entire ''theatres'' bursting burst into ''laughter'' at the sight of "Produced by Creator/MNightShyamalan" coming on during screenings of its trailer.
* BrokenBase: Some Reception on the movie's quality is split between those that felt that this movie was, while not as good as early Shyamalan, was at least a return to form. Others form for Shyamalan (but not as good as his earlier work) and those that felt it was so bad as when the others.just another nail in Shyamalan's career coffin.



* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Why does the old lady have a can of pepper spray that is used by 1987? Because the devil isn't so keen to details]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Why does the old lady have a can of pepper spray that is used by 1987? Because the devil isn't so keen to on details]].



* InsaneTrollLogic: Apparently toast that lands jam side down ''is a sign of {{Satan}}''

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* InsaneTrollLogic: Apparently toast that lands jam side down ''is a sign of {{Satan}}''{{Satan}}''.



** The demonstration of "jelly side down" toast. It's supposed to be a tense moment as the one security guard explains the presence of the devil. It's still a slow motion shot of jelly-on-toast falling.[[note]]Let's not forget that the weighted side of a piece of toast is more likely going to hit the ground. Or that, y'know, the DEVIL can be located via breakfast foods.[[/note]]
** The claim that suicide notes are either all crazy or all rational. This is supposed to sound like the note they're reading is a dramatic exception. Instead it sounds like a gross oversimplification of a complex and incredibly sensitive issue.

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** The demonstration of "jelly side down" toast. It's supposed to be a tense moment as the one security guard explains the presence of the devil. It's still a slow motion slow-motion shot of jelly-on-toast falling.[[note]]Let's not forget that the weighted side of a piece of toast is more likely going to hit the ground. Or that, y'know, the DEVIL can be located via breakfast foods.[[/note]]
** The claim that suicide notes are either all crazy or all rational. This is supposed to sound like the note they're reading is a dramatic exception. Instead Instead, it sounds like a gross oversimplification of a complex and incredibly sensitive issue.



* SoBadItsGood: Watch it with friends in the right frame of mind and intoxication and it really is hysterically funny. Prime future MST type commentary material. See the WhatAnIdiot and {{Narm}} entries for examples.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A great murder mystery in a confined setting with a RaceAgainstTheClock theme to get the remaining people out before they're killed... and then they had to thrown in the supernatural elements.

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* SoBadItsGood: Watch it with friends in the right frame of mind and intoxication sufficient intoxication, and it really is hysterically funny. Prime future MST type commentary material. See the WhatAnIdiot and {{Narm}} entries for examples.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A great murder mystery in a confined setting with a RaceAgainstTheClock theme to get the remaining people out before they're killed... and then they had to thrown throw in the supernatural elements.



** As mentioned by the WebOriginal/NostalgiaCritic, having the Devil's identity be both almost completely foreshadowed and one of the suspects who died means there was no way for a viewer to actually solve the mystery so all they have to look forward to is the twist. Instead it could have been revealed to be the security guard since he both isn't someone you'd easily suspect but there are still clues that point to him when you look back. He's the one who gives everyone the idea that the Devil is present in the first place, he's strangely and accurately familiar with the Devil information when no one else has heard of these specific superstitions, he has free constant surveillance of the elevator, and actions like suddenly saying a hasty Spanish prayer over the speaker would clearly only create more panic but gives him plausible deniability that he was trying to help.

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** As mentioned by the WebOriginal/NostalgiaCritic, having the Devil's identity be both almost completely foreshadowed and one of the suspects who died means there was no way for a viewer to actually solve the mystery so all they have to look forward to is the twist. Instead Instead, it could have been revealed to be the security guard since he both isn't someone you'd easily suspect but there are still clues that point to him when you look back. He's the one who gives everyone the idea that the Devil is present in the first place, he's strangely and accurately familiar with the Devil information when no one else has heard of these specific superstitions, he has free constant surveillance of the elevator, and actions like suddenly saying a hasty Spanish prayer over the speaker would clearly only create more panic but gives him plausible deniability that he was trying to help.
15th Nov '17 3:22:07 PM Flakhead
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* InsaneTrollLogic: Apparently toast that lands jam side down ''is a sign of {{Satan}}''
16th Oct '17 4:07:01 PM randomguy399
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* HilariousInHindsight: Both Shockers from ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'' (Logan Marshall-Green and Bokeem Woodbine) appear in this film.
5th Sep '17 10:49:56 AM rjd1922
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* BileFascination: Much of the audiences were drawn in by (negative) word of mouth of how entire ''theatres'' bursting into ''laughter'' at the sight of "Produced by M Night Shyamalan" during screenings of its trailer.

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* BileFascination: Much of the audiences were drawn in by (negative) word of mouth of how entire ''theatres'' bursting into ''laughter'' at the sight of "Produced by M Night Shyamalan" Creator/MNightShyamalan" during screenings of its trailer.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A great murder mystery in a confined setting with a RaceAgainstTheClock theme to get the remaining people out before they're killed... and then they had to thrown in the supernatural elements.
** To be fair, the supernatural thing is established pretty early on. And a mortal killer would only make sense if the killer somehow controlled the lights and didn't really care about getting caught.
** As mentioned by the WebOriginal/NostalgiaCritic, having the Devil's identity be both almost completely foreshadowed and one of the suspects who died means there was no way for a viewer to actually solve the mystery so all they have to look forward to is the twist. Instead it could have been revealed to be the security guard since he both isn't someone you'd easily suspect but there are still clues that point to him when you look back. He's the one who gives everyone the idea that the Devil is present in the first place, he's strangely and accurately familiar with the Devil information when no one else has heard of these specific superstitions, he has free constant surveillance of the elevator, and actions like suddenly saying a hasty Spanish prayer over the speaker would clearly only create more panic but gives him plausible deniability that he was trying to help.



*** Makes most sense if you think the guard [[spoiler: is supposed to be an incarnation of god or Christ attempting to give the cop a chance to save his own and the trapped peoples' souls.]] In that case it's mostly {{Narm}}.
** Oh look, a high voltage wire is broken. [[TooDumbToLive Why don't I step in the water so I can reach a little further with a stick?]] Extra points because he had made a conscious effort to avoid the water, then changed his mind because he needed to reach a little further. It gets ''really'' bad when you notice there's a 4 inch tall wooden crate bed leaning against the wall which he could have easily laid over the puddle to avoid touching the water.

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*** Makes most sense if you think the guard [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is supposed to be an incarnation of god God or Christ attempting to give the cop a chance to save his own and the trapped peoples' souls.]] In that case it's mostly {{Narm}}.
** Oh look, a high voltage wire is broken. [[TooDumbToLive Why don't I step in the water so I can reach a little further with a stick?]] Extra points because he had made a conscious effort to avoid the water, then changed his mind because he needed to reach a little further. It gets ''really'' bad when you notice there's a 4 inch 4-inch tall wooden crate bed leaning against the wall which he could have easily laid over the puddle to avoid touching the water.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A great murder mystery in a confined setting with a RaceAgainstTheClock theme to get the remaining people out before they're killed... and then they had to thrown in the supernatural elements.
** To be fair, the supernatural thing is established pretty early on. And a mortal killer would only make sense if the killer somehow controlled the lights and didn't really care about getting caught.
** As mentioned by the WebOriginal/NostalgiaCritic, having the Devil's identity be both almost completely foreshadowed and one of the suspects who died means there was no way for a viewer to actually solve the mystery so all they have to look forward to is the twist. Instead it could have been revealed to be the security guard since he both isn't someone you'd easily suspect but there are still clues that point to him when you look back. He's the one who gives everyone the idea that the Devil is present in the first place, he's strangely and accurately familiar with the Devil information when no one else has heard of these specific superstitions, he has free constant surveillance of the elevator, and actions like suddenly saying a hasty Spanish prayer over the speaker would clearly only create more panic but gives him plausible deniability that he was trying to help.
10th May '17 9:12:45 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Why does the old lady have a can ofpepper spray that is used by 1987? Because the devil isn't so keen to details]].

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* DorkAge: Still sports many of the tropes to be negatively associated with Shyamalan, and the aforementioned reaction of audiences to his involvement served to signal the director's loss of goodwill as a result of his previous efforts.
* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Why does the old lady have a can ofpepper of pepper spray that is used by 1987? Because the devil isn't so keen to details]].
6th Jan '17 4:48:52 AM backpack
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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Why does the old lady has a pepper spray that is used by 1987? Because the devil isn't so keen to details]].

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* FridgeLogic: [[spoiler: Why does the old lady has have a pepper can ofpepper spray that is used by 1987? Because the devil isn't so keen to details]].
6th Jan '17 4:47:42 AM backpack
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Was the Devil unable to take Tony because he was sorry, or because Bowden, the person he'd hurt most, forgave him?
19th Feb '16 5:15:43 AM ArkhamCity2525
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** The demonstration of "jelly side down" toast. It's supposed to be a tense moment as the one security guard explains the presence of the devil. It's still a slow motion shot of jelly-on-toast falling.[[note]]Let's not forget that the weighted side of a piece of toast is more likely going to hit the ground.[[/note]]

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** The demonstration of "jelly side down" toast. It's supposed to be a tense moment as the one security guard explains the presence of the devil. It's still a slow motion shot of jelly-on-toast falling.[[note]]Let's not forget that the weighted side of a piece of toast is more likely going to hit the ground. Or that, y'know, the DEVIL can be located via breakfast foods.[[/note]]
27th Jan '16 10:13:49 AM HBICece
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* RetroactiveRecognition: The detective is [[Series/TheMindyProject Danny Castellano]]
2nd Dec '15 9:55:59 AM LahmacunKebab
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A great murder mystery in a confined setting with a RaceAgainstTheClock theme to get the remaining people out before they're killed...and then they had to thrown in the supernatural elements.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: A great murder mystery in a confined setting with a RaceAgainstTheClock theme to get the remaining people out before they're killed... and then they had to thrown in the supernatural elements.
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