History YMMV / DeusExHumanRevolution

2nd Oct '16 2:31:25 AM Krieger22
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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a pocketlog in Panchea, the Prime Minister of Canada in 2027 has the surname Trudeau. Eidos correctly predicted that Canada would have another Trudeau prime minister.

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** [[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/09/12/west-virginia-cop-fired-for-not-killing-a-man-with-an-unloaded-gun/?utm_term=.e2e2ebb29f7a A West Virginia policeman was fired for refusing to shoot a man his superiors deemed to be a threat]]. Similar to the Mexicantown Massacre, the man in question was shot by other police officers who arrived on the scene.
* HilariousInHindsight: According to a pocketlog in Panchea, Panchaea, the Prime Minister of Canada in 2027 has the surname Trudeau. Eidos correctly predicted that Canada would have another Trudeau prime minister.
18th Sep '16 1:07:52 AM daveydaveson
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*** Unusually for this trope, the catalyst of the disappointment (i.e. the sudden zombieness of augmented characters changing the gameplay) goes on to have a major impact in the sequel.
6th Sep '16 6:33:04 PM Krieger22
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* InferredHolocaust: [[spoiler: Even if you don't decide to pick "Destroy Panchea" ending, disabling the Hyron Project inevitably leads to the station's annihilation, since there's no computer to redirect waves and control the pressure of the Arctic Ocean. Further reinforced when Bob Page mentions salvaging remains of something (most likely Panchea) for Morpheus Initiative.]]

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* InferredHolocaust: [[spoiler: Even if you don't decide to pick "Destroy Panchea" Panchaea" ending, disabling the Hyron Project inevitably leads to the station's annihilation, since there's no computer to redirect waves and control the pressure of the Arctic Ocean. Further reinforced when Bob Page mentions salvaging remains of something (most likely Panchea) for Morpheus Initiative.]]



** [[spoiler:Hugh Darrow inflicting an immense amount of pain and mental trauma on potentially hundreds of thousands of people, killing many of them.]] While he did regret it (depending on your dialogue choices) later on it's even worse when you consider that he was partially motivated by something as petty as jealousy. ''VideoGame/DeusExMankindDivided'' shows the long-term result of this, to boot: [[spoiler: millions of deaths occurred, and Augs are treated like animals with racial hatred worldwide.]] In a way, [[TheBadGuyWins he won,]] but even he couldn't of seen just how bad it'd become.

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** [[spoiler:Hugh Darrow inflicting an immense amount of pain and mental trauma on potentially hundreds of thousands of people, killing many of them.]] While he did regret it (depending on your dialogue choices) later on it's even worse when you consider that he was partially motivated by something as petty as jealousy. ''VideoGame/DeusExMankindDivided'' shows the long-term result of this, to boot: [[spoiler: millions of deaths occurred, and Augs are treated like animals with racial hatred worldwide.]] In a way, [[TheBadGuyWins he won,]] but even he couldn't of have seen just how bad it'd become.



* SidetrackedByTheGoldenSaucer: There are ''so many computers'' to hack. Almost none of them are strictly ''necessary'' to hack, but the minigame lets you hack literally hundreds of computers over the course of the game. When you enter a large office area, espect to drop at least ten or twenty minutes just running around hacking every computer in sight for experience and money.

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* SidetrackedByTheGoldenSaucer: There are ''so many computers'' to hack. Almost none of them are strictly ''necessary'' to hack, but the minigame lets you hack literally hundreds of computers over the course of the game. When you enter a large office area, espect expect to drop at least ten or twenty minutes just running around hacking every computer in sight for experience and money.



** One Sharif employee talks about how they had the sympathies of the whole world after the attack, but opinions changed against them surprisingly quickly. The exact same description could be used for United States post-9/11.

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** One Sharif Sarif employee talks about how they had the sympathies of the whole world after the attack, but opinions changed against them surprisingly quickly. The exact same description could be used for United States post-9/11.
6th Sep '16 1:15:06 AM gunarao
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** Picus rejects Pritchard's pitch for a TV show because they feel no one would be interested in [[Series/MrRobot a show about the nightly hacking exploits of a cyber security expert.]]
30th Aug '16 1:29:37 AM crazyrabbits
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* AnticlimaxBoss: As expected of the franchise, there are ways to eliminate powerful enemies besides shooting them hundreds of times (Although the Director's Cut DLC adds in various ways to do this for players who don't have many combat augmentations or guns). The Typhoon aug is potent enough to kill any boss in a few shots. Thanks to WikiMagic, gamers have figured out easy kills for all of the bosses:
** [[spoiler:Barret, the first boss,]] isn't immune to gas, be it grenades or the toxic stuff in the cylinders scattered around the area. These can be thrown halfway across the room even without the strength boosting mod. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsa5Z4wvoa8 It only takes two of these, three tops.]]
** For [[spoiler:Fedorova]], stock up on Typhoon ammo and spam repeatedly.
*** Alternatively, PEPS and EMP grenades do wonders, provided you have the EMP shielding aug or enough healing items. Doing this may also stun-lock her, [[GoodBadBugs glitching]] her so that she doesn't move. Happy shooting.
** [[spoiler:Namir, the third boss,]] is a close-combat specialist armed with loads of grenades and a powerful energy weapon, but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v1X5F0d58I has a glass jaw]]. Spam the takedown button as the boss mantles a wall and it's a OneHitKO. (this was patched out in the Director's Cut) Strong hackers can hack a turret from earlier and carry it down to his boss arena, which is ''almost'' as fast.
*** You can also [[AIBreaker abuse his tendency of hopping over the walls in the room]] by pulling out a revolver with a few mods (explosive rounds for damage, laser sight for accuracy, and maybe one or two reload speed upgrades), firing repeatedly, and weaving back and forth. He'll spend so much time climbing that he'll barely have a chance to counterattack.
*** If all else fails, you can lob land mines from the elevator onto his spawn point, and they'll explode as soon as his cutscene finishes (it takes about eight land mines, though).
** [[spoiler:Hyron, the final boss,]] has a terminal to shut down life-support directly in front of [[spoiler:Zhao Yun Ru]]. Hack it or sucker the codes out of [[spoiler:Darrow]] for an easy win.
*** Alternately, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-sQlvrjM bring the laser rifle]] and [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Just Shoot The Boss.]]
** The boss from the Missing Link DLC, [[spoiler:Burke]], fights you in a wide open room with a large number of flunkies. However, it's possible, if you move quickly, to get into cover and avoid being spotted by the {{mooks}}. If you're good at hacking or have certain augs, it's possible to get directly behind the boss and use a takedown without him knowing. There's even an achievement for doing this.
*** Hell, if you duck into cover immediately and stay there for a few minutes, they'll ''go back to their patrols'', even with [[spoiler:Burke]] continuing to taunt you about how it's only a matter of time before they find you. It's entirely possible -- though difficult -- to get the Apex Predator achievement along with Factory Zero.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: AnticlimaxBoss:
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As expected of the franchise, there are ways to eliminate powerful enemies besides shooting them hundreds of times (Although (though the Director's Cut DLC adds in various ways to do this for players who don't have many combat augmentations or guns). The Typhoon aug is potent enough to kill any boss in a few shots. Thanks to WikiMagic, gamers have figured out easy kills for all of the bosses:
** [[spoiler:Barret, [[spoiler:Barrett, the first boss,]] boss]], isn't immune to gas, be it grenades or the toxic stuff in the cylinders scattered around the area. These can be thrown halfway across the room even without the strength boosting mod. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsa5Z4wvoa8 It only takes two of these, three tops.]]
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** For [[spoiler:Fedorova]], stock up on Typhoon ammo and spam repeatedly. \n*** Alternatively, PEPS and EMP grenades do wonders, provided you have the EMP shielding aug or enough healing items. Doing this may also stun-lock her, [[GoodBadBugs glitching]] her so that she doesn't move. Happy shooting.
** [[spoiler:Namir, the third boss,]] boss]], is a close-combat specialist armed with loads of grenades and a powerful energy weapon, but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v1X5F0d58I has a glass jaw]]. Spam the takedown button as the boss mantles a wall and it's a OneHitKO. OneHitKO (this was patched out in the Director's Cut) Cut). The PreOrderBonus Linebacker grenade launcher can take him out in four or five shots Strong hackers can hack a turret from earlier and carry it down to his boss arena, which is ''almost'' as fast.
*** You can also [[AIBreaker abuse his tendency of hopping over the walls in the room]] by pulling out a revolver with a few mods (explosive rounds for damage, laser sight for accuracy, and maybe one or two reload speed upgrades), firing repeatedly, and weaving back and forth. He'll spend so much time climbing that he'll barely have a chance to counterattack.
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fast. If all else fails, you can lob land mines from the elevator onto his spawn point, and they'll explode as soon as his cutscene finishes (it takes about eight land mines, though).
** [[spoiler:Hyron, the final boss,]] boss]], has a terminal to shut down life-support directly in front of [[spoiler:Zhao Yun Ru]]. Hack it or sucker the codes out of [[spoiler:Darrow]] for an easy win. \n*** Alternately, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-sQlvrjM bring the laser rifle]] and [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Just Shoot The Boss.]]
** The boss from the Missing Link DLC, [[spoiler:Burke]], fights you in a wide open room with a large number of flunkies. However, it's possible, if you move quickly, to get into cover and avoid being spotted by the {{mooks}}. If you're good at hacking or have certain augs, it's possible to get directly behind the boss and use a takedown without him knowing. There's even an achievement for doing this.
*** Hell,
this. Even better, if you duck into cover immediately and stay there for a few minutes, they'll ''go back to their patrols'', even with [[spoiler:Burke]] continuing to taunt you about how it's only a matter of time before they find you. It's entirely possible -- though difficult -- to get the Apex Predator achievement along with Factory Zero.



* BreatherLevel: The return trip to Detroit. The previous several levels had you go up against heavily armed Belltower mercs and their complex security systems. The Purity First thugs in Detriot are nowhere near as powerful since they're not augmented.

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* BreatherLevel: The return trip to Detroit. The previous several levels had you go up against heavily armed Belltower mercs and their complex security systems. The Purity First thugs in Detriot Detroit are nowhere near as powerful since they're not augmented.



* CreatorWorship: The original ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' was a personal project of Warren Spector's. News that ''Human Revolution'' was being made without much input by Warren Spector was poorly-recieved. Initially even Warren Spector was displeased by this news, although he changed his tune after getting to see Eidos Montreal's work.
* DisappointingLastLevel:

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* CreatorWorship: The original ''VideoGame/DeusEx'' was a personal project of Warren Spector's. News that ''Human Revolution'' was being made without much input by Warren Spector was poorly-recieved.poorly-received. Initially even Warren Spector was displeased by this news, although he changed his tune after getting to see Eidos Montreal's work.
* DisappointingLastLevel: DisappointingLastLevel:



*** Sadly we'll never get to see [[WhatCouldHaveBeen the streets of Future Montreal, or the heights of Upper Hengsha]]
** The FinalDungeon [[spoiler: replaces enemy soldiers with pseudo-zombified humans turning the game into either a low skilled massacre or a game of running away.]]
*** WordOfGod is that Eidos Montreal wishes they had done a better job handling the final mission, though the design intention was always to have the gameplay change suddenly.
** The [[VideoGame/DeusEx first game]] sort of did this as well, especially after you got to Vandenburg. It is much more noticeable in ''Human Revolution'', though, since it is shorter than the original.

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*** Sadly we'll never get to see [[WhatCouldHaveBeen the streets of Future Montreal, or the heights of Upper Hengsha]]
** The FinalDungeon [[spoiler: replaces enemy soldiers with pseudo-zombified humans turning the game into either a low skilled massacre or a game of running away.]]
***
]] WordOfGod is that Eidos Montreal wishes they had done a better job handling the final mission, though the design intention was always to have the gameplay change suddenly.
** The [[VideoGame/DeusEx first game]] sort of did this as well, especially after you got to Vandenburg. It is much more noticeable in ''Human Revolution'', though, since it is shorter than the original.
suddenly.



* FandomRivalry: One is already developing between ''Human Revolution'' fans and ''Franchise/MassEffect'' fans. The music and general genre of the two make them natural rivals. Although there is a very large overlap between the fanbases of the games. A lot of people actually liked both titles.
** Ironically enough, the creators of Mass Effect designed the ending choices of the trilogy to mirror that of Deus Ex, leading to the infamous ending.
* GameBreaker: The Typhoon aug, when fully upgraded, makes mincemeat of the first three bosses. Use it, stun the boss, repeat. This is seemingly intentional however, as the game proper begins with the Typhoon aug prototype almost getting stolen.
** The Casie Mod turns any dialogue boss into a joke; just pop the pheromones when you can and select for the whatever's giving the strongest result. You'll win every time.
*** There are occasions where the person you're talking to recognizes what you're doing, but these are few and far between.
*** Also, like the game says, this might not get you the best outcome, just enough to have things go your way. For an example, check TheWoobie entry below.
** The Linebacker grenade launcher, which is a PreOrderBonus, can kill the third boss in seconds.
** As mentioned below in GoodBadBugs, there's a glitch which will allow you go get all 68 Praxis points and fully upgrade ''every single aug you have'', max out your points early on and you can breeze through the game with ease.
** PunchPackingPistol: Per any ''Deus Ex'' title, the standard pistol is a reliable and accurate medium-range weapon with plentiful ammo. What makes it a Game Breaker is the armour-piercing upgrade, which allows you to take out almost every mook you come across with one or two headshots. Heavily-armoured enemies can otherwise take ''several'' clips to bring down.
** RevolversAreJustBetter: A revolver with the Explosive Rounds mod can one-shot just about anyone without armor. It's not too shabby on bosses, either.
** Have the strength aug, hack augs and found a gatling turret standing around? Reprogram the turret and carry it around to get rid of any enemy since the thing has A) infinite ammo B) deals incredible damage C) is near unbreakable. If you are not seen carrying the thing, you even get the "Ghost" bonus.

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* FandomRivalry: One is already developing between ''Human Revolution'' fans and ''Franchise/MassEffect'' fans. The music and general genre of the two make them natural rivals. Although there is a very large overlap between the fanbases of the games. A lot of people actually liked both titles.
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titles. Ironically enough, the creators of Mass Effect designed the ending choices of the trilogy to mirror that of Deus Ex, leading to the infamous ending.
* GameBreaker: The Typhoon aug, when fully upgraded, makes mincemeat of the first three bosses. Use it, stun the boss, repeat. This is seemingly intentional however, as the game proper begins with the Typhoon aug prototype almost getting stolen.
** The Casie Mod turns any dialogue boss into a joke; just pop the pheromones when you can and select for the whatever's giving the strongest result. You'll win every time.
*** There are occasions where the person you're talking to recognizes what you're doing, but these are few and far between.
*** Also, like the game says, this might not get you the best outcome, just enough to have things go your way. For an example, check TheWoobie entry below.
** The Linebacker grenade launcher, which is a PreOrderBonus, can kill the third boss in seconds.
** As mentioned below in GoodBadBugs, there's a glitch which will allow you go get all 68 Praxis points and fully upgrade ''every single aug you have'', max out your points early on and you can breeze through the game with ease.
** PunchPackingPistol: Per any ''Deus Ex'' title, the standard pistol is a reliable and accurate medium-range weapon with plentiful ammo. What makes it a Game Breaker is the armour-piercing upgrade, which allows you to take out almost every mook you come across with one or two headshots. Heavily-armoured enemies can otherwise take ''several'' clips to bring down.
** RevolversAreJustBetter: A revolver with the Explosive Rounds mod can one-shot just about anyone without armor. It's not too shabby on bosses, either.
** Have the strength aug, hack augs and found a gatling turret standing around? Reprogram the turret and carry it around to get rid of any enemy since the thing has A) infinite ammo B) deals incredible damage C) is near unbreakable. If you are not seen carrying the thing, you even get the "Ghost" bonus.
[[GameBreaker/DeusEx Has its own page]].



* HoYay: Pritchard becomes more... ''concerned'' about Jensen late in the game.

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* HoYay: HoYay:
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Pritchard becomes more... ''concerned'' about Jensen late in the game.



* InferredHolocaust: [[spoiler: Even if you don't decide to pick "Destroy Panchea" ending, disabling Hyron Project inevitably leads to station's annihilation, since there's no computer to redirect waves and control the pressure of the Arctic Ocean. Further reinforced when Bob Page mentions salvaging remains of something (most likely Panchea) for Morpheus Initiative. Hopefully Adam had time to escape via submarine in the room where Sarif was hiding from crazy workers.]]

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* InferredHolocaust: [[spoiler: Even if you don't decide to pick "Destroy Panchea" ending, disabling the Hyron Project inevitably leads to the station's annihilation, since there's no computer to redirect waves and control the pressure of the Arctic Ocean. Further reinforced when Bob Page mentions salvaging remains of something (most likely Panchea) for Morpheus Initiative. Hopefully Adam had time to escape via submarine in the room where Sarif was hiding from crazy workers.]]



** "I never asked for this..."

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** "I never asked for this..."" Later became an AscendedMeme when it was used for an achievement name in ''VideoGame/DeusExMankindDivided''.



*** *PUNCH* *PUNCH* *STAB*

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*** ** *PUNCH* *PUNCH* *STAB*



* MoralEventHorizon: Narhari Kahn and Belltower as a whole cross this when they [[spoiler: open fire and kill everyone in the Alice Garden Pod apartment complex, despite the fact that everybody, including the one hacker they were after, were unarmed civilians.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Narhari Kahn and Belltower as a whole cross this when they [[spoiler: open fire and kill everyone in the Alice Garden Pod apartment complex, despite the fact that everybody, including the one hacker they were after, were unarmed civilians.]]



** Since Takedowns are scripted, when you're facing multiple enemies you'll see that they're frozen in place. Normally the animations are chosen in such a way that you don't see this, but during the fight on Panchaea, due to the larger amount of enemies going for your face, you'll see a bunch of them either in mid-stride or mid-jump.
*** Not to mention that the takedowns stay the same regardless of who Jensen is taking down. Which for example, means a pair of street prostitutes will engage in a quick series of kung-fu blocks and counter-punches before Jensen puts them down. Then again, if someone would have to learn martial arts to survive on the streets, it would be prostitutes.

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** Since Takedowns are scripted, when you're facing multiple enemies you'll see that they're frozen in place. Normally the animations are chosen in such a way that you don't see this, but during the fight on Panchaea, due to the larger amount of enemies going for your face, you'll see a bunch of them either in mid-stride or mid-jump. \n*** Not to mention that the takedowns stay the same regardless of who Jensen is taking down. Which for example, means a pair of street prostitutes will engage in a quick series of kung-fu blocks and counter-punches before Jensen puts them down. Then again, if someone would have to learn martial arts to survive on the streets, it would be prostitutes.



* WinBackTheCrowd: Successfully won people back to idea of more ''Deus Ex'' games after the disappointing "Invisible War'' eight years earlier.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: WinBackTheCrowd:
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Successfully won people back to idea of more ''Deus Ex'' games after the disappointing "Invisible War'' eight years earlier.



* TheWoobie: Haas, just [[TearJerker Haas.]] He is ordered to shoot a 15-year-old kid, then is blamed for it even though he was not in charge, then gets demoted to a desk job, then his family gets upset with him because of his demotion, [[spoiler: then he gets ''fired'' because he let Adam into the police station, then he gets a job at Sarif Industries under Adam, and depending on the ending, Sarif Industries itself might collapse or at least end up without David Sarif or Adam Jensen to keep the company afloat.]]
** [[spoiler:And if Adam uses the CASIE mod to get access to the Police Station, after getting fired he shows up at Adam's doorstep and tries to KILL him]]

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Haas, just [[TearJerker Haas.]] He is ordered to shoot a 15-year-old kid, then is blamed for it even though he was not in charge, then gets demoted to a desk job, then his family gets upset with him because of his demotion, [[spoiler: then demotion. [[spoiler:Then he gets ''fired'' because he let Adam into the police station, then he gets and confronts you in the lobby of your apartment building, where you can get him a job at Sarif Industries under Adam, and depending on the ending, Sarif Industries itself might collapse or at least end up without David Sarif or Adam Jensen Industries. If he is referred to keep the company afloat.]]
** [[spoiler:And if Adam uses the CASIE mod to get access to the Police Station, after getting fired
Sarif, he shows up at Adam's doorstep and tries to KILL him]]is seen as an unnamed crazed enemy in Panchaea, having been driven insane by Darrow's signal.]]



** [[spoiler:If you manage to have a heartfelt moment with Haas in the station using dialogue, he shows up at your apartment and accuses you of costing him his job. Choosing to emphasize with him will have Jensen offer him a well paying security job at Serif Industries, promising to put a good word in. Haas is floored by the offer and takes a moment to sit down, but it's implied he accepts.]]
26th Aug '16 5:58:49 PM Raikoh
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** [[spoiler:Hugh Darrow inflicting an immense amount of pain and mental trauma on potentially hundreds of thousands of people, killing many of them.]] While he did regret it (depending on your dialogue choices) later on it's even worse when you consider that he was partially motivated by something as petty as jealousy.

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** [[spoiler:Hugh Darrow inflicting an immense amount of pain and mental trauma on potentially hundreds of thousands of people, killing many of them.]] While he did regret it (depending on your dialogue choices) later on it's even worse when you consider that he was partially motivated by something as petty as jealousy. ''VideoGame/DeusExMankindDivided'' shows the long-term result of this, to boot: [[spoiler: millions of deaths occurred, and Augs are treated like animals with racial hatred worldwide.]] In a way, [[TheBadGuyWins he won,]] but even he couldn't of seen just how bad it'd become.
20th Aug '16 10:46:00 AM lrrose
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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a pocketlog in Panchea, the Prime Minister of Canada in 2027 has the surname Trudeau. Eidos correctly predicted that Cananda would have another Trudeau prime minister.

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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a pocketlog in Panchea, the Prime Minister of Canada in 2027 has the surname Trudeau. Eidos correctly predicted that Cananda Canada would have another Trudeau prime minister.
20th Aug '16 10:45:32 AM lrrose
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* HilariousInHindsight: According to a pocketlog in Panchea, the Prime Minister of Canada in 2027 has the surname Trudeau. Eidos correctly predicted that Cananda would have another Trudeau prime minister.
29th May '16 11:50:13 AM timotaka
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** There are instances of some businesses having a "No Augs" policy or asking augmented people to enter from the back, which is more than a little reminiscent of racial segregation.

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** There are instances of some businesses having a "No Augs" policy or asking augmented people to enter from the back, which is more than a little reminiscent of racial segregation. Having to use the service entrance has in the real world also happened in cases where women attended what were normally considered men-only establishments.
** One Sharif employee talks about how they had the sympathies of the whole world after the attack, but opinions changed against them surprisingly quickly. The exact same description could be used for United States post-9/11.
21st May '16 9:05:27 PM nombretomado
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* BrokenBase: While there was one for console and PC gamers when they didn't know if the Director's Cut would be released for their systems, XBOX and PS3 players are annoyed at how they have to buy the game all over again, and even more so if they paid for the DLC that'll be included in the Director's Cut.

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* BrokenBase: While there was one for console and PC gamers when they didn't know if the Director's Cut would be released for their systems, XBOX and PS3 [=PS3=] players are annoyed at how they have to buy the game all over again, and even more so if they paid for the DLC that'll be included in the Director's Cut.
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