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History YMMV / Deponia

22nd Apr '16 11:55:50 AM EternalRain
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* CrossesTheLineTwice / UnfortunateImplications: It is difficult to tell how intentional this was on Daedalic's part, especially since ''Goodbye Deponia'' has several CrossesTheLineTwice moments, but at one point you get the only black character in the entire game stuck in what is basically debt slavery, as a "dancing monkey". According to the game's writer, this was meant as an IntendedAudienceReaction to show how little Rufus takes into account what happens to others while he's trying to achieve his own personal goals, and the audience is meant to be uncomfortable at the fact Rufus' plans aren't completely heroic in nature. Other players have also pointed out that making the aforementioned black character white probably wouldn't have made the scene any less uncomfortable.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice / UnfortunateImplications: It is difficult to tell how intentional this was on Daedalic's part, especially since ''Goodbye Deponia'' has several CrossesTheLineTwice moments, but at one point you get the only black character in the entire game stuck in what is basically debt slavery, as a "dancing monkey". According to the game's writer, this was meant as an IntendedAudienceReaction to show how little Rufus takes into account what happens to others while he's trying to achieve his own personal goals, goals due to his narrow minded nature, and the audience is meant to be uncomfortable at the fact Rufus' plans aren't always completely heroic in nature.like those of other adventure games protagonists. Other players have also pointed out that making the aforementioned black character white probably wouldn't have made the scene any less uncomfortable.
22nd Apr '16 11:53:10 AM EternalRain
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* CrossesTheLineTwice / UnfortunateImplications: It is difficult to tell how intentional this was on Daedalic's part, especially since ''Goodbye Deponia'' has several CrossesTheLineTwice moments, but at one point you get the only black character in the entire game stuck in what is basically debt slavery, as a "dancing monkey". According to the game's writer, this was meant as an IntendedAudienceReaction to show how little Rufus takes into account what happens to others while he's trying to achieve his own personal goals, and the audience is meant to be uncomfortable at the fact Rufus' plans aren't completely heroic in nature. Other players have also pointed out that making June white probably wouldn't have made the scene any less uncomfortable.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice / UnfortunateImplications: It is difficult to tell how intentional this was on Daedalic's part, especially since ''Goodbye Deponia'' has several CrossesTheLineTwice moments, but at one point you get the only black character in the entire game stuck in what is basically debt slavery, as a "dancing monkey". According to the game's writer, this was meant as an IntendedAudienceReaction to show how little Rufus takes into account what happens to others while he's trying to achieve his own personal goals, and the audience is meant to be uncomfortable at the fact Rufus' plans aren't completely heroic in nature. Other players have also pointed out that making June the aforementioned black character white probably wouldn't have made the scene any less uncomfortable.
22nd Apr '16 11:51:45 AM EternalRain
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* CrossesTheLineTwice / UnfortunateImplications: It is difficult to tell how intentional this was on Daedalic's part, especially since ''Goodbye Deponia'' has several CrossesTheLineTwice moments, but at one point you get the only black character in the entire game stuck in what is basically debt slavery, as a "dancing monkey".

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* CrossesTheLineTwice / UnfortunateImplications: It is difficult to tell how intentional this was on Daedalic's part, especially since ''Goodbye Deponia'' has several CrossesTheLineTwice moments, but at one point you get the only black character in the entire game stuck in what is basically debt slavery, as a "dancing monkey". According to the game's writer, this was meant as an IntendedAudienceReaction to show how little Rufus takes into account what happens to others while he's trying to achieve his own personal goals, and the audience is meant to be uncomfortable at the fact Rufus' plans aren't completely heroic in nature. Other players have also pointed out that making June white probably wouldn't have made the scene any less uncomfortable.
25th Mar '16 11:54:43 AM TheLurkerBelow
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* EndingAversion: Many players declared the ending of ''Goodbye Deponia'' enough to make the entire trilogy up to that point almost not worth playing, if '''this''' is the conclusion it all led to.

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* EndingAversion: Many Some players declared the ending of ''Goodbye Deponia'' enough to make the entire trilogy up to that point almost not worth playing, if '''this''' is the conclusion it all led to.
25th Mar '16 11:53:15 AM TheLurkerBelow
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** In ''Deponia Doomsday'', in order to reach Porta Rustica in time, Rufus, Goal and [=McChronicle=] have to take a boat, but the owner only allows passage if Rufus presents a picture that proves he and Goal are in love with each other. Rufus goes off on yet another of his [[ZanyScheme Zany Schemes]], intending to take a picture with a fake Goal, but just as he completes it, he's interrupted by Goal herself, who reacts with surprised disapproval and tells him she'd [[CuttingTheKnot convinced the owner to let them pass]]. In Porta Rustica, however, Goal drops a photograph that Rufus picks up... which depicts Goal with a fake Rufus, meaning that Goal had successfully undertaken ''the exact same Zany Scheme'' while Rufus prepared for his. When Rufus is surprised by this, Goal gets [[NotSoDifferent a mellow smile on her face]].

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** In ''Deponia Doomsday'', in order to reach Porta Rustica in time, Rufus, Goal and [=McChronicle=] have to take a boat, but the owner only allows passage if Rufus presents a picture that proves he and Goal are in love with each other. Rufus goes off on yet another of his [[ZanyScheme Zany Schemes]], intending to take a picture with a fake Goal, but just as he completes it, he's interrupted by Goal herself, who reacts with surprised disapproval and tells him she'd [[CuttingTheKnot convinced the owner to let them pass]]. In Porta Rustica, however, Goal drops a photograph that Rufus picks up... which depicts Goal with a fake Rufus, meaning that Goal had successfully undertaken ''the exact same Zany Scheme'' ZanyScheme'' while Rufus prepared for his. When Rufus is surprised by this, Goal gets [[NotSoDifferent a mellow smile on her face]].
24th Mar '16 11:17:03 PM TheLurkerBelow
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** [[https://youtu.be/yyZs1ztVGMc The main menu theme]] of ''Deponia Doomsday'' takes the familiar narrator song instrumental and remixes it in an instrumental style reminiscent of Music/TwoStepsFromHell. It feels just as epic as this would imply.
24th Mar '16 11:11:37 PM TheLurkerBelow
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** In ''Deponia Doomsday'', in order to reach Porta Rustica in time, Rufus, Goal and McChronicle have to take a boat, but the owner only allows passage if Rufus presents a picture that proves he and Goal are in love with each other. Rufus goes off on yet another of his [[ZanyScheme Zany Schemes]], intending to take a picture with a fake Goal, but just as he completes it, he's interrupted by Goal herself, who reacts with surprised disapproval and tells him she'd [[CuttingTheKnot convinced the owner to let them pass]]. In Porta Rustica, however, Goal drops a photograph that Rufus picks up... which depicts Goal with a fake Rufus, meaning that Goal had successfully undertaken ''the exact same Zany Scheme'' while Rufus prepared for his. When Rufus is surprised by this, Goal gets [[NotSoDifferent a mellow smile on her face]].

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** In ''Deponia Doomsday'', in order to reach Porta Rustica in time, Rufus, Goal and McChronicle [=McChronicle=] have to take a boat, but the owner only allows passage if Rufus presents a picture that proves he and Goal are in love with each other. Rufus goes off on yet another of his [[ZanyScheme Zany Schemes]], intending to take a picture with a fake Goal, but just as he completes it, he's interrupted by Goal herself, who reacts with surprised disapproval and tells him she'd [[CuttingTheKnot convinced the owner to let them pass]]. In Porta Rustica, however, Goal drops a photograph that Rufus picks up... which depicts Goal with a fake Rufus, meaning that Goal had successfully undertaken ''the exact same Zany Scheme'' while Rufus prepared for his. When Rufus is surprised by this, Goal gets [[NotSoDifferent a mellow smile on her face]].
24th Mar '16 11:09:20 PM TheLurkerBelow
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** [spoiler:''Deponia Doomsday'' actually depicts the results of Elysium crashing back down onto Deponia, with at least some casualties among the Elysians, though it does not seem to result in heavy damage to Deponia itself, with a coastal settlement overlooking the crash site surviving seemingly intact, and Goal surviving the impact.]]

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** [spoiler:''Deponia [[spoiler:''Deponia Doomsday'' actually depicts the results of Elysium crashing back down onto Deponia, with at least some casualties among the Elysians, though it does not seem to result in heavy damage to Deponia itself, with a coastal settlement overlooking the crash site surviving seemingly intact, and Goal surviving the impact.]]
24th Mar '16 11:08:46 PM TheLurkerBelow
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** [spoiler:''Deponia Doomsday'' actually depicts the results of Elysium crashing back down onto Deponia, with at least some casualties among the Elysians, though it does not seem to result in heavy damage to Deponia itself, with a coastal settlement overlooking the crash site surviving seemingly intact, and Goal surviving the impact.]]



** Rufus, himself. He is selfish, narcissistic, rude and constantly causes pain and misfortune to himself and those around him, but at the same time suffers from the hatred and isolation from his fellow Deponians because of it, not to mention [[spoiler:[[DisappearedDad his father issues]]]], causing him much insecurities about his purpose on Deponia in the first place. In addition to that, despite his jerkassery, he always prioritizes the survival of the planet and what few people he can call "friends", and particularly Goal's life and happiness, over his own benefit[[spoiler:, ultimately committing a HeroicSacrifice in order to ensure it]].

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** Rufus, himself. He is selfish, narcissistic, rude and constantly causes pain and misfortune to himself and those around him, but at the same time suffers from the hatred and isolation from his fellow Deponians because of it, not to mention [[spoiler:[[DisappearedDad his father issues]]]], causing him much insecurities about his purpose on Deponia in the first place. In addition to that, despite his jerkassery, he always prioritizes the survival of the planet and what few people he can call "friends", and particularly [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy Goal's life and happiness, happiness]], over his own benefit[[spoiler:, ultimately committing a HeroicSacrifice in order to ensure it]].
24th Mar '16 10:26:42 PM TheLurkerBelow
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** '''Goal.''' The extent of her ordeals has to be seen to be believed. To recap, she's a fairly normal, sweet young woman from Elysium who [[RebelliousPrincess gets uppity]] and insists on accompanying her [[ArrangedMarriage husband-to-be whom she did not get to pick]] to Deponia, and gets entangled in a GovernmentConspiracy covering up a [[MoralEventHorizon genocide]] in the making. She is then accidentally knocked down to the surface, sustains serious injury and spends a few days [[TheLoad being carted around]] by an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. Once she regains consciousness, her would-be husband and Rufus mess with her memory and [[LivingMacGuffin treat her like an object]] until Rufus grows some conscience. Then, her return to Elysium is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero accidentally sabotaged by Rufus]], getting her seriously injured ''again'' and, through gross negligence on Rufus's part, causing her memory implant to [[SplitPersonality shatter her personality into three parts]], whereupon she becomes the victim of even more [[SlapstickKnowsNoGender slapstick]], up to and including being used as a living lightning rod [[DudeNotFunny after saying she's afraid of lightning]]. Finally, when things start getting better, [[HereWeGoAgain Rufus gets them captured once more]], resulting in her getting strapped to a torture rack and very nearly getting killed via an overdose of sedative. And as if that was not enough, Rufus then [[spoiler:dies by performing a HeroicSacrifice to ensure her survival]], while she is [[spoiler:stuck with [[{{Jerkass}} Cletus]], and even though she [[IronicHell forces Cletus to keep up the masquerade from the ending of ''Goodbye Deponia'' and pretend he's Rufus]], she understands that the real Rufus [[StarCrossedLovers died just as she really fell in love with him]].]] And ''then'' ''Deponia Doomsday'' reveals that[[spoiler:, with the destruction of Deponia averted and Elysium's launch thus cancelled, Elysium soon loses power and falls back down on the planet, with apparent heavy casualties among the Elysians. Goal survives and is then forced to set off, alone and heartbroken, to find a new life on Deponia.]] And she goes through [[TraumaCongaLine all this]] without being guilty of anything save for a little bit of well-justified rebellious attitude. Talk about harsh.

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** '''Goal.''' The extent of her ordeals has to be seen to be believed. To recap, she's a fairly normal, sweet young woman from Elysium who [[RebelliousPrincess gets uppity]] and insists on accompanying her [[ArrangedMarriage husband-to-be whom she did not get to pick]] to Deponia, and gets entangled in a GovernmentConspiracy covering up a [[MoralEventHorizon genocide]] in the making. She is then accidentally knocked down to the surface, sustains serious injury and spends a few days [[TheLoad being carted around]] by an UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist. Once she regains consciousness, her would-be husband and Rufus mess with her memory and [[LivingMacGuffin treat her like an object]] until Rufus grows some conscience. Then, her return to Elysium is [[NiceJobBreakingItHero accidentally sabotaged by Rufus]], getting her seriously injured ''again'' and, through gross negligence on Rufus's part, causing her memory implant to [[SplitPersonality shatter her personality into three parts]], whereupon she becomes the victim of even more [[SlapstickKnowsNoGender slapstick]], up to and including being used as a living lightning rod [[DudeNotFunny after saying she's afraid of lightning]]. Finally, when things start getting better, [[HereWeGoAgain Rufus gets them captured once more]], resulting in her [[spoiler:her getting strapped to a torture rack and very nearly getting killed via an overdose of sedative.sedative]]. And as if that was not enough, Rufus then [[spoiler:dies by performing a HeroicSacrifice to ensure her survival]], while she is [[spoiler:stuck with [[{{Jerkass}} Cletus]], and even though she [[IronicHell forces Cletus to keep up the masquerade from the ending of ''Goodbye Deponia'' and pretend he's Rufus]], she understands that the real Rufus [[StarCrossedLovers died just as she really fell in love with him]].]] And ''then'' ''Deponia Doomsday'' reveals that[[spoiler:, with the destruction of Deponia averted and Elysium's launch thus cancelled, Elysium soon loses power and falls back down on the planet, with apparent heavy casualties among the Elysians. Goal survives and is then forced to set off, alone and heartbroken, to find a new life on Deponia.]] And she goes through [[TraumaCongaLine all this]] without being guilty of anything save for a little bit of well-justified rebellious attitude. Talk about harsh.
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