History YMMV / Degrassi

16th Mar '17 5:06:11 AM whisperhugscoundrel
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** Zig and Tiny tease Maya at the beginning of season 14 about Maya "turning Miles gay". Cut to Next Class and Zig is Zoe's sexual encounter with a man before coming out as a lesbian.

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** Zig and Tiny tease Maya at the beginning of season 14 about Maya "turning Miles gay". Cut to Next Class and Zig is Zoe's last sexual encounter with a man before coming out as a lesbian.
16th Mar '17 5:05:37 AM whisperhugscoundrel
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** Zig and Tiny tease Maya at the beginning of season 14 about Maya "turning Miles gay". Cut to Next Class and Zig is Zoe's sexual encounter with a man before coming out as a lesbian.
7th Mar '17 1:48:31 PM nekonaito
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* ItWasHisSled: Almost everyone knows at this point that JT dies.
4th Mar '17 2:20:23 PM pyramidjerry333
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** Speaking against [[PortmanteauCoupleNaming EClare]] in ANY way became blasphemy in the world of fandom LONG before Eli was ever featured in an episode.
*** At a recent cast party (the one in Montclair), the entire room booed every time Jake was mentioned-- except for when Clare [[spoiler: told him she wasn't ready for sex, setting up for their eventual breakup]]. It got to the point where Munro Chambers, the actor who played Eli, basically yelled at the fans to shut up (mostly because [[RealLifeSubtext the actor who plays Jake is his real life best friend.]]

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** Speaking against [[PortmanteauCoupleNaming [[FanNickname EClare]] in ANY way became blasphemy in the world of fandom LONG before Eli was ever featured in an episode.
*** At a recent cast party (the one in Montclair), the entire room booed every time Jake was mentioned-- except for when Clare [[spoiler: told him she wasn't ready for sex, setting up for their eventual breakup]]. It got to the point where Munro Chambers, the actor who played Eli, basically yelled at the fans to shut up (mostly because [[RealLifeSubtext [[RealitySubtext the actor who plays Jake is his real life best friend.]]
4th Mar '17 2:18:45 PM pyramidjerry333
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** Then there's Mr./Principal Simpson. As a teacher, fans of the show often poked fun for his treatment of his students. He wasn't "too strict", or "too kind"... well he was, but at random and completely unexpected times. He thought Principal Raditch was being too strict when he gave Hazel, Toby, and Jimmy Saturday detention, even though Toby and Jimmy hacked into the school computer system to change Jimmy's grades. A few seasons later, he's so strict that he continuously punishes Darcy for things she has no control over. Now imagine that as a principal. Once he is promoted, he starts off letting his students get away with everything, but when things reach a boiling point, he becomes far more strict. Eventually, he cools down, but becomes both too liberal and too strict just like before. He doesn't punish Eli for taking drugs and streaking through the Degrassi hallways, and doesn't do a thing when Zoe cyber bullies Maya (even though this is ground for expulsion), however, he punishes MAYA when she writes a mean song about Zoe. He lets Winston get away with protesting the school dance in an attempt to harass Drew, however, he punishes Imogen for forgetting to wear a bra to school. This goes without mentioning his apparent sexist treatment of the students. He forces the female students who acted "inappropriately" at the school's Vegas dance to attend a self-esteem workshop, whilst failing to hold the males students to the same standard. This comes as extremely odd considering the fact that his own step-daughter is one of the biggest feminists this show has ever had. And for this treatment, he has somehow become the only character to appear in every season of the Degrassi franchise (however, his appearances in later seasons are significantly reduced, appearing in only two episodes of the 10-episode season 3 of ''The Next Class'').

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** Then there's Mr./Principal Simpson. As a teacher, fans of the show often poked fun for his treatment of his students. He wasn't "too strict", or "too kind"... well he was, but at random and completely unexpected times. He thought Principal Raditch was being too strict when he gave Hazel, Toby, and Jimmy Saturday detention, even though Toby and Jimmy hacked into the school computer system to change Jimmy's grades. A few seasons later, he's so strict that he continuously punishes Darcy for things she has no control over. Now imagine that as a principal. Once he is promoted, he starts off letting his students get away with everything, but when things reach a boiling point, he becomes far more strict. Eventually, he cools down, but becomes both too liberal and too strict just like before. He doesn't punish Eli for taking drugs and streaking through the Degrassi hallways, and doesn't do a thing when Zoe cyber bullies Maya (even though this is ground for expulsion), however, he punishes MAYA when she writes a mean song about Zoe. He lets Winston get away with protesting the school dance in an attempt to harass Drew, however, he punishes Imogen for forgetting to wear a bra to school. This goes without mentioning his apparent sexist treatment of the students. He forces the female students who acted "inappropriately" at the school's Vegas dance to attend a self-esteem workshop, whilst failing to hold the males students to the same standard. This comes as extremely odd considering the fact that his own step-daughter is one of the biggest feminists this show has ever had. And for this treatment, he has somehow become the only character to appear in every season of the Degrassi franchise (however, his appearances in later seasons are significantly reduced, appearing in only two just ''seven'' episodes of the 10-episode season 3 the, as of spring 2017, ''30'' episodes of ''The Next Class'').
4th Mar '17 2:14:58 PM pyramidjerry333
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* {{Narm}}:
** The most prominent example is Rick pushing Terri and she falls and her head hits a rock. This can be as devastating as the show projects, but because RealityIsUnrealistic it falls here and gets more narmtastic. She actually hits cinder blocks; in the middle of the park. To top it all off, before he pushed her, Rick was kicking the ground; it even got a FanNickname, "baby-kicks".
** "Are we gonna party? I think I need another bracelet."
** "I'm gay. I'm totally, totally gay."
** "I'm just a big, stupid loser."
** "You're a robot, Liberty. A walking, talking computer." Judging from that flat, wooden delivery, Mia must be one too.
** "YOU TOLD ME TO PLAY '''''BASKETBALL!!!!!!'''''"
** "My dad used to yell at me!"
** Clare's entire [[{{Melodrama}} "DID YOU EVER LOVE ME AT ALL!?"]] speech to Eli in ''Lovegame'', [[StockPhrases on]] [[ClicheStorm so]] [[ItsAllAboutMe many]] [[TookALevelInJerkass levels...]]
*** And before that, there was Eli's meltdown in ''Drop the World'': "YOU RIPPED MY HEART OUT!"
** After Riley consults a man on how to "cure" his homosexuality, he tells Fiona about it at school. Fiona responds negatively, and says something along the lines of "Riley, you can't cure being gay" Riley in turn SHOUTS back with [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6RwYvcugBE "TOO BAD YOU CAN'T CURE BITCH!"]].
** Also, in "Accidents Will Happen", up until the part where she tells her mother about her pregnancy, Manny's reaction to it is seen as this. She's supposed to be upset and on the verge of tears, yet her "upset" face somehow resembles a smile. Even at the part where Ashley vengefully announces her pregnancy to the cafeteria, she displays the same "I think I'm going to laugh" expression. The next scene has her crying in the bathroom where she hears [[AlphaBitch Paige]] talk about her with Terri, which has its own {{Narm}} qualities:
-->''Look, I like Manny, but this has to be the most [[BuffySpeak loserish]] thing she's ever done. She's going to be somebody's MOM. She's ruined her life, and quite possibly her figure, [[MoodWhiplash but that's a nice lip color you have there. What is that called?]]''
** And let's not forget Craig and his weird mantras and other behavior. His destroying the hotel room, screaming to clear his head and laughing at his father's ''[[spoiler: funeral]]'' best display this:
-->''I messed up again. And again. And again! AND AGAIN!''
-->''What, so I can go home, and dad can, uh...?''
-->''I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! How many times do I have to say it?''
4th Mar '17 2:11:27 PM pyramidjerry333
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* CharacterShilling: This happens quite a bit with Mia during Season 8, much to Holly J's (and many fans') annoyance. The character was seen by many as being unrealistic, but the showrunners kept trying to portray her as amazing. One episode focusing on another character's attempts to woo her was even titled "Uptown Girl" after the Billy Joel song (at that point, the show was still all of its episodes after 80's songs), as if to remind the audience how obviously desirable and amazing Mia supposedly was.
** One particularly {{Egregious}} example was in ''Degrassi Takes Manhattan'', when Jay was telling Spinner that Emma wouldn't screw him over like Jane did. [[SarcasmMode Because Emma NEVER cheated on anybody]]. It's especially perplexing that Jay would talk Emma up like this, because a few years ago, she ''prostituted'' herself to him. For rubber bracelets.
** Both Mia and Emma are listed under CreatorsPet for those exact reasons.



* CreatorsPet: Mia and Emma are two of the more commonly cited examples, due to their amount of screentime and constant shilling; also Craig ended up receiving a lot of backlash in response to [[SpotlightStealingSquad all the attention he was given.]]

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* CreatorsPet: Mia and Numerous examples.
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Emma are was arguably the first, though Craig shared time with her in this. The difference being that while Craig was always angsty and whiny, but the writers gave him a plurality of episodes in seasons 2, 3, and 4. Then there's Emma, who was always angsty and whiny and [[AuthorFilibuster a place to inject the writers' political views]], in addition to being self-righteous and bitchy, and she was [[{{tsundere}} much more tsun than dere]]. Also, her issues tended to be [[WhatAnIdiot things you had to be a moron to do]], like go down on a guy who's already sleeping with numerous girls, leading to the {{fanon}} that she just does it for attention. And she got a plurality of episodes in seasons 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6. She's also a black hole who sucks the win out of every character she's around.
** More recently there's been Mia. She's a teen mom, a classic trait for all non-virgin Sues. You're wondering how she can afford to juggle her time between school, a baby, and cheerleading? [[UpToEleven She's also a model.]] She also gets close to J.T., and [[DieForOurShip cements the split between him and Liberty]]. She's from another school, and [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom J.T.'s love for her ultimately gets him killed]]. And from season 6 until she leaves, she has a huge role. To make matters worse, during her final season, she was paired up with the ever-icky Peter (arguably the male Mia) and the duo were portrayed as Degrassi's power couple despite the fact that Peter was a creep who mistreated every women he's ever encountered... yet the writers insisted on focusing way too much screen time on him as if he were a good guy all along.
** Drew Torres. The writers have a tendency to treat him as a GaryStu. He has shown various narcissistic tendencies, which the creators nonchalantly brush off as mild foolishness. He kicked off his run on Degrassi by blackmailing another character by threatening to out him to the entire school, a possibility the character had shown to be quite afraid of, all because he wanted to be the school quarterback. Later on, he dated Zoe and remarkably forgot that Zoe was three years younger than him and was not old enough to give him her consent for sex. This did not stop him. He later acted surprised when she told him she was a virgin, even though he himself did not lose his virginity until he was seventeen. To add on to the horrible things Drew has done, he has cheated on every girlfriend he has had, the first being Alli, and in a later block, begins to date the person he cheated with. He later abandons this girl the one time she truly needs him, and gets another girlfriend. He eventually cheats on this girlfriend with his past girlfriend, then breaks up with the earlier girlfriend to get together with the past girlfriend, only to cheat on her with said girlfriend. So basically, he can't hold a good relationship if his life depended on it. And despite having emotionally damaged four girls in his short time on Degrassi, Drew somehow manages to become the leading male of season 13.
*** Adding on to how the creators spoil him, it has seemed that the writers have a habit of putting characters in horrible situations and/or ruining other characters in order to make him come off as a good person. This includes his entire storyline in the Season 11 block "Now or Never", in which he saves Bianca from getting raped and suffers the consequences. This takes place coincidentally after he had insulted Bianca several times, saying that "every horrible thing everyone's said about you is right", to which she always took it well without even thinking negatively of him. The night were he saves Alli from getting sexually assaulted by Owen takes place only hours after he cheated on her in the very same spot. After Zoe gets raped by Luke (a character who actually had future potential), the writers have him blame himself, even though he has no reason to... other than the fact that this takes place right after he took advantage of her himself and the writers needed him to look better by comparison. But then, of course, there's the ones that don't even make sense, like having Eli cheat on Clare just so that Drew will look like a better option for her (it was previously shown in several seasons that Eli would risk everything for Clare, and even went
two years without sex just for her, so the fact that his sexual drive couldn't wait three months is just ridiculous. This is only made even more ridiculous when considering the fact that Clare and Drew haven't even shared a line together before season 12C, and their entire relationship seems far too rushed to be taken seriously).
*** The fact that [[KarmaHoudini he's never punished for anything he's done]] also doesn't let him sit right with fans. The night he is caught with Alli, his mother places all the blame on her without even questioning his antics. To add insult to injury, Alli, Bianca, and all the girls who acted "inappropriately" that night had to go to a self-respect seminar, while he and all the other male students where let off the hook. After he cheated on Katie with Bianca (and then Bianca with Katie), Katie initially took all her frustrations out on Bianca, however when she finally got revenge on Drew by exposing him in front of Bianca, she forgave him an episode or two later. After the incident with Zoe, he is told off by his mother, but is not punished that severely by her, and is not punished by the school at all.
** Then there's Mr./Principal Simpson. As a teacher, fans
of the show often poked fun for his treatment of his students. He wasn't "too strict", or "too kind"... well he was, but at random and completely unexpected times. He thought Principal Raditch was being too strict when he gave Hazel, Toby, and Jimmy Saturday detention, even though Toby and Jimmy hacked into the school computer system to change Jimmy's grades. A few seasons later, he's so strict that he continuously punishes Darcy for things she has no control over. Now imagine that as a principal. Once he is promoted, he starts off letting his students get away with everything, but when things reach a boiling point, he becomes far more commonly cited examples, due strict. Eventually, he cools down, but becomes both too liberal and too strict just like before. He doesn't punish Eli for taking drugs and streaking through the Degrassi hallways, and doesn't do a thing when Zoe cyber bullies Maya (even though this is ground for expulsion), however, he punishes MAYA when she writes a mean song about Zoe. He lets Winston get away with protesting the school dance in an attempt to their harass Drew, however, he punishes Imogen for forgetting to wear a bra to school. This goes without mentioning his apparent sexist treatment of the students. He forces the female students who acted "inappropriately" at the school's Vegas dance to attend a self-esteem workshop, whilst failing to hold the males students to the same standard. This comes as extremely odd considering the fact that his own step-daughter is one of the biggest feminists this show has ever had. And for this treatment, he has somehow become the only character to appear in every season of the Degrassi franchise (however, his appearances in later seasons are significantly reduced, appearing in only two episodes of the 10-episode season 3 of ''The Next Class'').
** Clare Edwards. She is beloved by the writers and has an unsettling amount of CanonSue tendencies. Her ridiculous
amount of screentime and constant shilling; also Craig ended certainly hasn't endeared her to her detractors. Which makes sense since she's essentially Emma 2.0 with Maya quickly picking up receiving a lot of backlash in response to [[SpotlightStealingSquad all the attention he was given.]] mantle as Emma 3.0.
26th Feb '17 5:12:28 PM nombretomado
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* AbandonShipping: After "Rock This Town" and "The Bitterest Pill", it's pretty rare to find anybody who ships JT with anybody other than Liberty.

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After "Rock This Town" and "The Bitterest Pill", it's pretty rare to find anybody who ships JT with anybody other than Liberty.



* ShipToShipCombat: Still very present in the fandom, but nothing can compare to the Great Shipping War that took place during season 3 and didn't end until ''season 8.'' Namely, there were five people involved in four parings: Craig/Ashely, Craig/Manny, Sean/Emma, Sean/Ellie, and Craig/Ellie. With the constant back and forth between the characters in question, the ShipTease, and {{Romantic Plot Tumor}}s the show put out, the war spanned forums, YouTube, the official Creator/{{TeenNick}} boards, LiveJournal, and couple specific fansites. Which makes it even more unreal (or pretty damn realistic) that absolutely ''none of the parings in question'' made it to OfficialCouple status.

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* ShipToShipCombat: Still very present in the fandom, but nothing can compare to the Great Shipping War that took place during season 3 and didn't end until ''season 8.'' Namely, there were five people involved in four parings: Craig/Ashely, Craig/Manny, Sean/Emma, Sean/Ellie, and Craig/Ellie. With the constant back and forth between the characters in question, the ShipTease, and {{Romantic Plot Tumor}}s the show put out, the war spanned forums, YouTube, the official Creator/{{TeenNick}} boards, LiveJournal, Website/LiveJournal, and couple specific fansites. Which makes it even more unreal (or pretty damn realistic) that absolutely ''none of the parings in question'' made it to OfficialCouple status.
23rd Jan '17 4:38:49 PM owlnoelsword96
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***Similarly, some fans still ship Zoë with Zig and/or Miles, despite [[spoiler: Zoë firmly identifying as gay.]]



**Plenty of Grace/Zoë fans pretend that Grace [[spoiler: never lied about being gay for Zoë and instead is gay or bisexual.]]



* IKnewIt: From Next Class season one, fans were guessing that Zoë's Mom would kick her out of the house for being a lesbian, and that Grace would let Zoë live with her and her mom. In season three, [[Tearjerker both end up]] [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming happening.]]

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* IKnewIt: From Next Class season one, fans were guessing that Zoë's Mom would kick her out of the house for being a lesbian, and that Grace would let Zoë live with her and her mom. In season three, [[Tearjerker [[TearJerker both end up]] [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming happening.]]
19th Jan '17 10:06:54 PM MegaJ
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** A lot of US watchers were taken aback on just how easy it was for Lola to get an abortion. In Canada, abortions are paid for by the tax payers for public clinics and teenagers can get them without parental consent, a stark contrast to the continual debate and firestorm over abortion in the states.
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