History YMMV / Deathstroke

22nd Aug '17 2:07:19 AM Anicomicgeek
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* CantUnhearIt: If you've seen ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans''. You'll most likely be reading every line in Creator/RonPerlman's very serious voice. Alternatively, fans of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' probably hear Manu Bennett's voice, which has became equally iconic for the character, albeit for the mercenary versions more than the Chessmaster ones. To a lesser extent, fans of his video game appearances may hear Creator/MarkRolston or J.G. Hertzler from the ''Arkham'' and ''Injustice'' series that prominently featured him. The late Creator/MiguelFerrer's performance in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' may very well reach this status as well.

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* CantUnhearIt: If you've seen ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans''. You'll most likely be reading every line in Creator/RonPerlman's very serious voice. Alternatively, fans of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' probably hear Manu Bennett's Creator/ManuBennett's voice, which has became equally iconic for the character, albeit for the mercenary versions more than the Chessmaster ones. To a lesser extent, fans of his video game appearances may hear Creator/MarkRolston or J.G. Hertzler from the ''Arkham'' and ''Injustice'' series that prominently featured him. The late Creator/MiguelFerrer's performance in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' may very well reach this status as well.
22nd Aug '17 2:06:26 AM Anicomicgeek
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* CantUnhearIt: If you've seen ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans''. You'll most likely be reading every line in Creator/RonPerlman's very serious voice. Alternatively, fans of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' probably hear Manu Bennett's voice, which has became equally iconic for the character, albeit for the mercenary versions more than the Chessmaster ones. To a lesser extent, fans of his video game appearances may hear Mark Rolston or J.G. Hertzler from the ''Arkham'' and ''Injustice'' series that prominently featured him. The late Miguel Ferrer's performance in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' may very well reach this status as well.

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* CantUnhearIt: If you've seen ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans''. You'll most likely be reading every line in Creator/RonPerlman's very serious voice. Alternatively, fans of ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' probably hear Manu Bennett's voice, which has became equally iconic for the character, albeit for the mercenary versions more than the Chessmaster ones. To a lesser extent, fans of his video game appearances may hear Mark Rolston Creator/MarkRolston or J.G. Hertzler from the ''Arkham'' and ''Injustice'' series that prominently featured him. The late Miguel Ferrer's Creator/MiguelFerrer's performance in ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansTheJudasContract'' may very well reach this status as well.
9th Aug '17 8:50:29 PM SarcasmKid
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* DorkAge: The ''Titans: Villains For Hire'' era was one not just for the Titans, but Deathstroke. It was by far the most critically lambasted run of any Titans-related comic and fans hated for how horrible the characters acted (especially Slade orchestrating the gang murder of Ryan Choi) yet were still expected to be sympathetic, plus the stilted writing and horrible artwork.



* NeverLiveItDown: He's popular and all, and it's not ''that'' extreme an example... but you will find a lot of people who won't let the character live down sleeping with Terra, a teenager. Although this is usually brought up due to frustrations from the double standards of the situation, and that the other characters will gloss over it while bringing up all the other horrible things Slade's done. The writer's attempts to retcon Terra's behavior as a result of Slade drugging her made the situation look even sketchier than it already was.

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* NeverLiveItDown: NeverLiveItDown:
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He's popular and all, and it's not ''that'' extreme an example... but you will find a lot of people who won't let the character live down sleeping with Terra, a teenager. Although this is usually brought up due to frustrations from the double standards of the situation, and that the other characters will gloss over it while bringing up all the other horrible things Slade's done. The writer's attempts to retcon Terra's behavior as a result of Slade drugging her made the situation look even sketchier than it already was.was.
** Slade butchering Ryan Choi and delivering the body in a matchbox to Ryan's arch enemy Dwarfstar. The most infuriating thing about it is Slade was never punished for what he did until ''ComicBook/{{Convergence}}'' where he was quickly beaten and humiliated by both Atoms.
18th Jun '17 11:25:56 AM MagBas
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* BaseBreaker: Slade's handling by some writers has divided him into three categories. There are fans who still love him, fans who are unhappy with how he and his family have been handled since Identity Crisis, and those who wish he was dead. What has further broken this base was the infamous Titans: Villains for Hire special where he and his team of mercenaries butchered Ryan Choi.
17th Jun '17 12:42:12 AM SarcasmKid
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* NeverLiveItDown: He's popular and all, and it's not ''that'' extreme an example... but you will find a lot of people who won't let the character live down sleeping with a teenager.

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* NeverLiveItDown: He's popular and all, and it's not ''that'' extreme an example... but you will find a lot of people who won't let the character live down sleeping with Terra, a teenager.teenager. Although this is usually brought up due to frustrations from the double standards of the situation, and that the other characters will gloss over it while bringing up all the other horrible things Slade's done. The writer's attempts to retcon Terra's behavior as a result of Slade drugging her made the situation look even sketchier than it already was.
31st May '17 4:12:38 PM MagBas
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31st May '17 4:08:27 PM MagBas
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* BaseBreaker: While he still remains something of an EnsembleDarkhorse, Slade's handling by some writers has divided him into three categories. There are fans who still love him, fans who are unhappy with how he and his family have been handled since ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'', and those who see him as a VillainSue and wish he was dead. What has further broken this base was the infamous ''Titans: Villains for Hire'' special where he and his team of mercenaries butchered Ryan Choi.



* CreatorsPet:
** When George Perez left ''The New Teen Titans'', Marv Wolfman had free reign over Deathstroke's character, and it seemed that he had no objectivity where he was concerned. In a very jarring, sudden turn of events, Deathstroke became a KarmaHoudini for his actions, his [[CharacterizationMarchesOn earlier characterization forgotten]] and now established as an AntiVillain who bore the Titans no ill will[[note]](When Perez was still on the title, Deathstroke blamed the Titans for his son's death and took very clear, visible pleasure in setting them up to be betrayed and murdered)[[/note]] turned AntiHero, being EasilyForgiven and becoming a father-figure and ''friend'' of the Titans, including his biggest victims Nightwing, Changeling, and his own son Jericho who was rendered mute because of him. Wolfman has also stated repeatedly that he never saw Deathstroke as a villain, but as a victim of circumstance stuck in a bad situation, whose actions weren't truly his fault.
** He was Brad Meltzer's Creator's Pet as well, although ironically Meltzer went in the ''opposite'' direction from Wolfman. Instead of attempting to canonly apply the DracoInLeatherPants treatment to him, Meltzer made Deathstroke an unabashed villain who was just so good at what he did, being both an invincible fighter and unparalleled DiabolicalMastermind. This was best shown in the notorious scene of ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' where Deathstroke singlehandedly [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomps]] the ''entire Justice League''. Meltzer was clearly a tad ''too'' enamored with Deathstroke as a villain.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: He's become a fan-favorite villain of the DC Universe and this goes for other DC media outside of comics. Ironically, the character's first mainstream exposure that contributed to his growth in popularity was in the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' animated series that was made at a time where stricter network censorship made the show [[NeverSayDie unable to use his alias]], which is why he was simply called "Slade" instead, but every incarnation of the character to appear in other media since then has been called Deathstroke.
31st May '17 4:04:15 PM MagBas
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** When George Perez left ''The New Teen Titans'', Marv Wolfman had free reign over Deathstroke's character, and it seemed that he had no objectivity where he was concerned. In a very jarring, sudden turn of events, Deathstroke became a KarmaHoudini for his actions, his [[CharacterizationMarchesOn earlier characterization forgotten]] and now established as an AntiVillain who bore the Titans no ill will[[note]](When Perez was still on the title, Deathstroke blamed the Titans for his son's death and took very clear, visible pleasure in setting them up to be betrayed and murdered)[[/note]] turned AntiHero, being EasilyForgiven and becoming a father-figure and ''friend'' of the Titans, including his biggest victims Nightwing, Changeling, and his own son Jericho who was rendered mute because of him. Wolfman has also stated repeatedly that he never saw Deathstroke as a villain, but as a victim of circumstance stuck in a bad situation, whose actions (including [[UnfortunateImplications sleeping with a teenage girl]]) weren't truly his fault.
** He was Brad Meltzer's Creator's Pet as well, although ironically Meltzer went in the ''opposite'' direction from Wolfman. Instead of attempting to canonly apply the DracoInLeatherPants treatment to him, Meltzer made Deathstroke an unabashed villain who was just [[VillainSue so good at what he did]], being both an invincible fighter and unparalleled DiabolicalMastermind. This was best shown in the notorious scene of ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' where Deathstroke singlehandedly [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomps]] the ''entire Justice League''. Meltzer was clearly a tad ''too'' enamored with Deathstroke as a villain.

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** When George Perez left ''The New Teen Titans'', Marv Wolfman had free reign over Deathstroke's character, and it seemed that he had no objectivity where he was concerned. In a very jarring, sudden turn of events, Deathstroke became a KarmaHoudini for his actions, his [[CharacterizationMarchesOn earlier characterization forgotten]] and now established as an AntiVillain who bore the Titans no ill will[[note]](When Perez was still on the title, Deathstroke blamed the Titans for his son's death and took very clear, visible pleasure in setting them up to be betrayed and murdered)[[/note]] turned AntiHero, being EasilyForgiven and becoming a father-figure and ''friend'' of the Titans, including his biggest victims Nightwing, Changeling, and his own son Jericho who was rendered mute because of him. Wolfman has also stated repeatedly that he never saw Deathstroke as a villain, but as a victim of circumstance stuck in a bad situation, whose actions (including [[UnfortunateImplications sleeping with a teenage girl]]) weren't truly his fault.
** He was Brad Meltzer's Creator's Pet as well, although ironically Meltzer went in the ''opposite'' direction from Wolfman. Instead of attempting to canonly apply the DracoInLeatherPants treatment to him, Meltzer made Deathstroke an unabashed villain who was just [[VillainSue so good at what he did]], did, being both an invincible fighter and unparalleled DiabolicalMastermind. This was best shown in the notorious scene of ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis'' where Deathstroke singlehandedly [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomps]] the ''entire Justice League''. Meltzer was clearly a tad ''too'' enamored with Deathstroke as a villain.
29th May '17 7:27:55 AM rafi
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: He's become a fan-favorite villain of the DC Universe.
** This goes for other DC media outside of comics. Ironically, the character's first mainstream exposure that contributed to his growth in popularity was in the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' animated series that was made at a time where stricter network censorship made the show [[NeverSayDie unable to use his alias]], which is why he was simply called "Slade" instead, but every incarnation of the character to appear in other media since then has been called Deathstroke.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: He's become a fan-favorite villain of the DC Universe.
** This
Universe and this goes for other DC media outside of comics. Ironically, the character's first mainstream exposure that contributed to his growth in popularity was in the ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' animated series that was made at a time where stricter network censorship made the show [[NeverSayDie unable to use his alias]], which is why he was simply called "Slade" instead, but every incarnation of the character to appear in other media since then has been called Deathstroke.
29th May '17 7:17:16 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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* CreatorsPet: When George Perez left ''The New Teen Titans'', Marv Wolfman had free reign over Deathstroke's character, and it seemed that he had no objectivity where he was concerned. In a very jarring, sudden turn of events, Deathstroke became a KarmaHoudini for his actions, his [[CharacterizationMarchesOn earlier characterization forgotten]] and now established as an AntiVillain who bore the Titans no ill will[[note]](When Perez was still on the title, Deathstroke blamed the Titans for his son's death and took very clear, visible pleasure in setting them up to be betrayed and murdered)[[/note]] turned AntiHero, being EasilyForgiven and becoming a father-figure and ''friend'' of the Titans, including his biggest victims Nightwing, Changeling, and his own son Jericho who was rendered mute because of him. Wolfman has also stated repeatedly that he never saw Deathstroke as a villain, but as a victim of circumstance stuck in a bad situation, whose actions (including [[UnfortunateImplications sleeping with a teenage girl]]) weren't truly his fault.

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* CreatorsPet: CreatorsPet:
**
When George Perez left ''The New Teen Titans'', Marv Wolfman had free reign over Deathstroke's character, and it seemed that he had no objectivity where he was concerned. In a very jarring, sudden turn of events, Deathstroke became a KarmaHoudini for his actions, his [[CharacterizationMarchesOn earlier characterization forgotten]] and now established as an AntiVillain who bore the Titans no ill will[[note]](When Perez was still on the title, Deathstroke blamed the Titans for his son's death and took very clear, visible pleasure in setting them up to be betrayed and murdered)[[/note]] turned AntiHero, being EasilyForgiven and becoming a father-figure and ''friend'' of the Titans, including his biggest victims Nightwing, Changeling, and his own son Jericho who was rendered mute because of him. Wolfman has also stated repeatedly that he never saw Deathstroke as a villain, but as a victim of circumstance stuck in a bad situation, whose actions (including [[UnfortunateImplications sleeping with a teenage girl]]) weren't truly his fault.



* MoralEventHorizon: While Slade has done numerous criminal and downright evil deeds, the fact that he orchestrated the deaths of Rose's foster parents just to make sure she had no choice but to start living with him followed by pumping her full of mind altering drugs and turning her into a psychopath should put him over the line.

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* MoralEventHorizon: While Slade has done numerous criminal and downright evil deeds, the fact that he orchestrated the deaths of Rose's foster parents just to make sure she had no choice but to start living with him followed by pumping her full of mind altering drugs and turning her into a psychopath should put him over the line.line.
* NeverLiveItDown: He's popular and all, and it's not ''that'' extreme an example... but you will find a lot of people who won't let the character live down sleeping with a teenager.
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