History YMMV / DeathNote

22nd Jan '17 1:22:31 AM Fanfictionlurker1
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** Seemingly few, but Light, Misa, Takada, Near, and Demegawa on the top. [[{{VillainProtagonist}} Light]] for being a [[{{TooDumbToLive}} maniacal douchebag]] who thinks that [[{{AGodAmI}} he's a god]], Misa for being a [[{{FlatCharacter}} flat character]], Takada for being following Misa's footsteps, Near for being a [[{{FollowTheLeader}} L wannabe]], and Demegawa for being a [[{{FatBastard}} smug jerkass]].

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** Seemingly few, but Light, Misa, Takada, Near, and Demegawa on Near has earned a Scrappy status from many fans who viewed him as a [[ReplacementScrappy poor knock-off of L]]. ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_(Death_Note)#Conception_and_development_of_Near Even the top. [[{{VillainProtagonist}} Light]] creator bashed him.]]''
** Demegawa. Fans considered him to be a {{Jerkass}} {{Expy}} of [[SpiderMan J. Jonah Jameson]] who's merely concerned with increasing his own profits. [[spoiler:''He even caused one of Light's plans to fail because of his MoneyFetish!'']]. [[spoiler:Good thing Mikami kills him]].
** Takada. Whenever fans talk about her, it's either that she was a [[InformedAbility informed intelligent]] fool who easily fell
for Light's charms or a stuck up jerk, particularly on how she treated Misa. She even gets plenty of flak from fangirls who swore to exact their revenge on her for [[spoiler:killing [[DracoInLeatherPants Mello]] - though it's hard to imagine a worse fate for her than the one that actually transpired]].
** And of course, Misa Amane whom many found annoying, stupid, unlikable ([[SarcasmMode you know among]] [[GreyAndGreyMorality such likable characters]]), and...basically just
being a [[{{TooDumbToLive}} maniacal douchebag]] who thinks [[HetIsEw heterosexual woman]] in a series that [[{{AGodAmI}} he's has a god]], Misa for being a [[{{FlatCharacter}} flat character]], Takada for being following Misa's footsteps, Near for being a [[{{FollowTheLeader}} L wannabe]], and Demegawa for being a [[{{FatBastard}} smug jerkass]].among YaoiFangirls.
1st Jan '17 10:12:05 PM MYM
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** Light Yagami is the biggest one here. He's both loved and hated by the fandom.
** L is this to a lesser degree.

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** Light Yagami Mello is the biggest one here. He's both either loved and hated by the fandom.
** L is this to
fandom since he was a lesser degree.villain.



* DracoInLeatherPants: ''Any'' of the series' protagonists, to varying degrees.
** Light gets an in-universe example.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: ''Any'' of the series' protagonists, to varying degrees.
**
Light gets an in-universe example.



* EvilIsSexy: Light Yagami, [[MsFanservice Misa]], Mikami and Mello.

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* EvilIsSexy: Light Yagami, [[MsFanservice [[{{Moe}} Misa]], Mikami and Mello.



** Misa during the Yotsuba arc [[spoiler: when she successfully outmaneuvers and controls Higuchi.]]
** Also in the live action movies, where she's portrayed as a more sympathetic character, with the death of her family being shown as a constant source of pain for her, rather than just being forgotten about the minute she joins Light (who, in the movies, she comes to ''acknowledge'' as a monster who doesn't care for her, [[MadLove but she just can't quit him]]. Not to mention she has photos of her parents alongside her pictures of Light, openly says she should've died with Mom and Dad, and [[spoiler: ''breaks down in tears'' when [[RonTheDeathEater Light decides to kill his father]]]]).



** Takada! Dear god Takada! Whenever fans talk about her, it's either that she was an [[InformedAbility informed intelligent]] fool who easily fell for Light's charms or a stuck up bitch, particularly on how she treated Misa. She even gets plenty of hate from fangirls who swore to exact their revenge on her [[spoiler:for killing Mello]].
** Misa. The fandom seems to believe that [[CuteButCacophonic every time she opens her mouth ears bleed]]. In their eyes she is annoying, crazy, doesn't act like a real person, and gets in the way of a popular fan-pairing.

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** Takada! Dear god Takada! Whenever fans talk about her, it's either Seemingly few, but Light, Misa, Takada, Near, and Demegawa on the top. [[{{VillainProtagonist}} Light]] for being a [[{{TooDumbToLive}} maniacal douchebag]] who thinks that she was an [[InformedAbility informed intelligent]] fool who easily fell [[{{AGodAmI}} he's a god]], Misa for Light's charms or being a stuck up bitch, particularly on how she treated Misa. She even gets plenty of hate from fangirls who swore to exact their revenge on her [[spoiler:for killing Mello]].
** Misa. The fandom seems to believe that [[CuteButCacophonic every time she opens her mouth ears bleed]]. In their eyes she is annoying, crazy, doesn't act like
[[{{FlatCharacter}} flat character]], Takada for being following Misa's footsteps, Near for being a real person, [[{{FollowTheLeader}} L wannabe]], and gets in the way of Demegawa for being a popular fan-pairing. [[{{FatBastard}} smug jerkass]].
20th Dec '16 11:18:20 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ExaltedTorturer – L, Watari, and the Taskforce technically speaking. L and the Taskforce make use of JackBauerInterrogationTechnique, in addition to numerous human rights violations when the suspects [[spoiler: are detained for fifty days unable to move and then sent to their mock execution (not to mention that if the blank cartridge gambit had been true to life, Light would have been killed or seriously injured).]] [[NotSoDifferent But they’re doing it to the Kiras,]] [[HypocriticalHumor you know, to evil people,]] [[SarcasmMode so it's okay!]]
20th Dec '16 10:55:14 PM Fanfictionlurker1
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* ExaltedTorturer – L, Watari, and the Taskforce technically speaking. L and the Taskforce make use of JackBauerInterrogationTechnique, in addition to numerous human rights violations when the suspects [[spoiler: are detained for fifty days unable to move and then sent to their mock execution (not to mention that if the blank cartridge gambit had been true to life, Light would have been killed or seriously injured).]] [[NotSoDifferent But they’re doing it to the Kiras,]] [[HypocriticalHumor you know, to evil people,]] [[SarcasmMode so it's okay!]]



** Light definitely [[IncrediblyLamePun falls into this trope]]. He did so many horrible things from killing FBI Agent Raye Penbar to killing Raye's fiancee, Naomi Misora, getting closer and closer for every bad thing he's done. While the ones listed above were to just simply stop them from getting in his way, he finally crosses it when he kills someone that wasn't getting on his way, was on his side, and ultimately loved him. [[spoiler:He betrays and murders Kiyomi Takada, even after she did what Light told her to do, murder Mello. What makes it even worse is she is forced to burn herself to death and die slowly and painfully.]]

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** Light definitely [[IncrediblyLamePun falls into this trope]]. He did so many horrible things from killing So much YMMV regarding where Light's [=MEH=] may be, if there is indeed one, but here are some milestones:
*** Killing
FBI Agent Raye Penbar (not to killing mention the other agents working on the Kira case) or Raye's fiancee, Naomi Misora, getting closer and closer for every bad thing he's done. Misora. While the ones listed above were to just simply stop them from getting in his way, he finally many believe that Light crosses it when he kills someone that wasn't getting on his way, was on his side, and ultimately loved him. [[spoiler:He betrays and murders Kiyomi Takada, even after she did what Light told her to do, murder Mello. What makes it even worse is she is forced to burn herself to death and die slowly and painfully.]]
12th Dec '16 10:26:10 AM DrPsyche
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** Which ending is better, the anime or manga? Some that feel Light's send off in the Manga was more fitting [[spoiler:he dies a pathetic whiny death to highlight how much of a worm he was]]. Others feel the anime was better [[spoiler:with Light having a more emotionally resonant AlasPoorVillain moment]] which some argue manages to swing the anime back up from its SeasonalRot. The endings clearly go for different tones and radically change how one's supposed to view Light and one's opinion on him (a BaseBreakingCharacter if there ever was one) will probably dictate one's feelings on the ending.
12th Dec '16 10:21:35 AM DrPsyche
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* BrokenBase: The name changes and other cultural adaptations for the American Netflix version. Many people decry TheyChangedItNowItSucks as expected, but others recognize them as a PragmaticAdaptation of sorts (for example, Light's first name is unchanged and many of the other Japanese names are retained), especially with Japanese actor and [[OneOfUs fellow geek]] Creator/MasiOka helping to head the series.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
** The death of [[spoiler: L in the original]]. The fanbase is split between it being one of the most emotionally impactful moments and a tragic loss and those who feel that the death threw a massive wrench into the character dynamics and weakened the series in a way it could never recover from. Some people even prefer the Live-action adaptations for [[spoiler:having L win and die after the series]].
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The name changes and other cultural adaptations for the American Netflix version. Many people decry TheyChangedItNowItSucks as expected, but others recognize them as a PragmaticAdaptation of sorts (for example, Light's first name is unchanged and many of the other Japanese names are retained), especially with Japanese actor and [[OneOfUs fellow geek]] Creator/MasiOka helping to head the series.
21st Nov '16 2:49:31 AM Ramidel
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: Ohba was a master of subverting the trope. Doesn't stop [[HesJustHiding the fans' perspectives]], though.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt:
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Ohba was a master of subverting the trope. Doesn't stop [[HesJustHiding the fans' perspectives]], though.though.
** On the other hand, when Souchiro pulled the trigger on Light, nobody believed it for a second. Light was so high on the SortingAlgorithmOfMortality that there was no way he was getting shot in the back of the car.
22nd Oct '16 4:23:10 PM Lancelot07
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** For ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'' fans, it can be quite funny to learn that L and Near in the Japanese dub share the voices of Inuyasha and Kikyo respectively, a tragic couple in the series.

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** For ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'' fans, it can be quite funny to learn that L and Near in the Japanese dub share the voices of Inuyasha and Kikyo respectively, a tragic couple in the said series.
22nd Oct '16 4:21:58 PM Lancelot07
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** For ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'' fans, it can be quite funny to learn that L and Near in the Japanese dub share the voices of Inuyasha and Kikyo respectively, a tragic couple in ''Inuyasha''.

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** For ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'' fans, it can be quite funny to learn that L and Near in the Japanese dub share the voices of Inuyasha and Kikyo respectively, a tragic couple in ''Inuyasha''.the series.
22nd Oct '16 4:20:59 PM Lancelot07
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** For ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'' fans, there's how L and Near in the Japanese dub share the voices of Inuyasha and Kikyo respectively, a tragic couple in ''Inuyasha''.

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** For ''Manga/{{Inuyasha}}'' fans, there's how it can be quite funny to learn that L and Near in the Japanese dub share the voices of Inuyasha and Kikyo respectively, a tragic couple in ''Inuyasha''.
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