History YMMV / DeadPoetsSociety

24th May '17 12:13:28 AM mouschilight
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** Mr. Keating breaking down in tears after he discovers that [[spoiler:Neil killed himself]] is a thousand times worse to watch since Creator/RobinWilliams committed suicide. It also makes Mr. Keating's speeches about "carpe diem" and seizing the day before it's gone ''heartbreaking''.

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** Mr. Keating breaking down in tears after he discovers that [[spoiler:Neil killed himself]] is a thousand times worse to watch since Creator/RobinWilliams committed suicide.suicide in 2014. It also makes Mr. Keating's speeches about "carpe diem" and seizing the day before it's gone ''heartbreaking''.
28th Jan '17 7:52:05 PM Premonition45
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** The film's final scene has Keating's students giving him a touching send-off, showing their appreciation for everything he's taught them. This is now almost impossible to watch without feeling like a send-off for Williams rather than his character. However, it could be considered HeartwarmingInHindsight, since they're showing how much he meant to them.

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** The film's final scene has Keating's students giving him a touching send-off, showing their appreciation for everything he's taught them. This is now almost impossible to watch without feeling like a send-off for Williams rather than his character. However, it could can be considered HeartwarmingInHindsight, since they're showing how much he meant to them.
10th Jan '17 10:22:21 PM benda
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* DesignatedVillain: Principal Nolan has some of this, the movie setting him up as the uber-conformist, stuffy-conservative [[StopHavingFunGuys "Stop Having Fun" Guy]] opposite Mr. Keating's free-spirited CoolTeacher. While he ''is'' a jerk from time to time, most of the time he's just doing his job as principal of the school; the rest of the time, he's espousing beliefs or values that clash with the message of "Carpe Diem", which is hardly ''his'' fault. On the other hand, he clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned as "excrement" to be "excellent" and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him.

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* DesignatedVillain: Principal Nolan has some of this, the movie setting him up as the uber-conformist, stuffy-conservative [[StopHavingFunGuys "Stop Having Fun" Guy]] opposite Mr. Keating's free-spirited CoolTeacher. While he ''is'' a jerk from time to time, most of the time he's just doing his job as principal of the school; the rest of the time, he's espousing beliefs or values that clash with the message of "Carpe Diem", which is hardly ''his'' fault. On the other hand, he clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned as "excrement" to be "excellent" and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him.him (though it was deemed much more acceptable in 1950s than it is now).
1st Dec '16 8:42:41 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** The BigNo is ruined by the slow motion and [[spoiler:Neil's father being played by Kurtwood Smith from ''Series/That70sShow'']]. You can ''almost'' hear him screaming "[[spoiler:NEIL, YOU DUMBASS!!!]]"

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** The BigNo is ruined by the slow motion and [[spoiler:Neil's father being played by Kurtwood Smith Creator/KurtwoodSmith from ''Series/That70sShow'']]. You can ''almost'' hear him screaming "[[spoiler:NEIL, YOU DUMBASS!!!]]"


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* RetroactiveRecognition: Those who watched ''{{Series/House}}'' before seeing this movie might be surprised to see Wilson as a 17-year-old prep school student.
20th Nov '16 9:19:18 PM lalalei2001
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* BrokenBase: Some viewers feel Keating ''was'' an irresponsible teacher, encouraging the students to break the school rules when in so doing it could get them in trouble but would be unlikely to rebound on him and he tried to censor ideas that he didn't agree with ie ripping out the book introduction. Others feel that the value of broadening the students' perspective and encouraging them to enter adult life with a different attitude than that endorsed by the school was in the long run worth the short-term risk of being disciplined by the school. Plus Keating calls out Charlie when he goes too far and pulls a prank. Plus, he did first have the students read the text and gave a brief, impassioned explanation for why he disapproved of it. It was more an act of rebellion than true censorship and the students could always make up their own minds about it.
* DesignatedVillain: Principal Nolan has some of this, the movie setting him up as the uber-conformist, stuffy-conservative [[StopHavingFunGuys "Stop Having Fun" Guy]] opposite Mr. Keating's free-spirited CoolTeacher. While he ''is'' a jerk from time to time, most of the time he's just doing his job as principal of the school; the rest of the time, he's espousing beliefs or values that clash with the message of "Carpe Diem", which is hardly ''his'' fault. About the worst thing he does is fire Mr. Keating following the scandal caused by [[spoiler:Neil killing himself]] -- and even then, it's an act of damage control, not motivated by spite or cruelty.
** Nolan clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned as "excrement" to be "excellent" and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him. His portrayal as the bad guy seems quite justified.
* HarsherInHindsight: Mr. Keating breaking down in tears after he discovers that [[spoiler:Neil killed himself]] is a thousand times worse to watch since Creator/RobinWilliams committed suicide.
** It also makes Mr. Keating's speeches about "carpe diem" and seizing the day before it's gone ''heartbreaking''.

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* BrokenBase: Some viewers feel Keating ''was'' an irresponsible teacher, encouraging the students to break the school rules when in so doing it could get them in trouble but would be unlikely to rebound on him and he tried to censor ideas that he didn't agree with ie with, ripping out the book introduction. Others feel that the value of broadening the students' perspective and encouraging them to enter adult life with a different attitude than that endorsed by the school was in the long run worth the short-term risk of being disciplined by the school. Plus Keating calls out Charlie when he goes too far and pulls a prank. Plus, he did first have the students read the text and gave a brief, impassioned explanation for why he disapproved of it. It was more an act of rebellion than true censorship and the students could always make up their own minds about it.
* DesignatedVillain: Principal Nolan has some of this, the movie setting him up as the uber-conformist, stuffy-conservative [[StopHavingFunGuys "Stop Having Fun" Guy]] opposite Mr. Keating's free-spirited CoolTeacher. While he ''is'' a jerk from time to time, most of the time he's just doing his job as principal of the school; the rest of the time, he's espousing beliefs or values that clash with the message of "Carpe Diem", which is hardly ''his'' fault. About On the worst thing other hand, he does is fire Mr. Keating following the scandal caused by [[spoiler:Neil killing himself]] -- and even then, it's an act of damage control, not motivated by spite or cruelty.
** Nolan
clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned as "excrement" to be "excellent" and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him. His portrayal as the bad guy seems quite justified.him.
* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Mr. Keating breaking down in tears after he discovers that [[spoiler:Neil killed himself]] is a thousand times worse to watch since Creator/RobinWilliams committed suicide.
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suicide. It also makes Mr. Keating's speeches about "carpe diem" and seizing the day before it's gone ''heartbreaking''.



* JerkassHasAPoint: Keating's antics don't go over well with the school administration and teachers. He has at least two conversations about this during the course of the film. While the audience is set up to believe their adherence to tradition and conformity are a bad thing, both conversations drive the point home. "Free thinkers at seventeen? Teach them to learn and the rest will follow." A prep school education is designed to send the young men on to college, and trying to be an artist will only end in disappointment.
5th Oct '16 6:20:44 AM Larkmarn
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** It's just that a very rigid, regimented program of study is not actually necessary to get into college or be successful in life and one can learn without being a conformist or suppressing one's artistic side. Plus, it can be assumed that attending this strict prep school and the career options flowing from it were generally what the boys' parents imposed on them and not necessarily what they would have chosen themselves had they been given a choice (as the conflict between Neil's wish to be an actor and his father's uncompromising insistence that he be a doctor painfully bears out).
21st Sep '16 4:58:39 PM erracht
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** Nolan clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned as "excrement", to be "excellent" and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him. His portrayal as the bad guy seems quite justified.

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** Nolan clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned as "excrement", "excrement" to be "excellent" and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him. His portrayal as the bad guy seems quite justified.
21st Sep '16 4:57:58 PM erracht
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** Nolan clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned to be "excrement", and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him. His portrayal as the bad guy seems quite justified.

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** Nolan clearly believes that the authoritarian structure of the school should be maintained, considers the ridiculous essay about drawing graphs to analyze poetry that Keating condemned to be as "excrement", to be "excellent" and disciplines Charlie for his silly prank by ''paddling'' him. His portrayal as the bad guy seems quite justified.
19th Sep '16 8:23:13 PM erracht
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** It's just that a very rigid, regimented program of study is not actually necessary to get into college or be successful in life and one can learn without being a conformist or suppressing one's artistic side. Plus, it can be assumed that attending this strict prep school and the career options flowing from it were generally what the boys' parents imposed on them and not necessarily what they would have chosen themselves had they been given a choice (as the conflict between Neil's wish to be an actor and his father's uncompromising insistence that he be a doctor painfully bears out).
16th Sep '16 6:19:39 AM Larkmarn
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* {{Narm}}: The BigNo is ruined by the slow motion and [[spoiler:Neil's father being played by Kurtwood Smith from ''Series/That70sShow'']]. You can ''almost'' hear him screaming "[[spoiler:NEIL, YOU DUMBASS!!!]]"
** Well, [[HilariousInHindsight that last part wasn't exactly their fault]].

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
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The BigNo is ruined by the slow motion and [[spoiler:Neil's father being played by Kurtwood Smith from ''Series/That70sShow'']]. You can ''almost'' hear him screaming "[[spoiler:NEIL, YOU DUMBASS!!!]]"
** Well, [[HilariousInHindsight that last part wasn't exactly their fault]].John Keating's name being... well, John Keating. The sheer level of MeaningfulName is rather laughable.
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