History YMMV / DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes

26th Feb '17 12:12:23 PM Fangusu
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** It's easy to draw comparisons between [[BigBad Koba]] and Napoleon from ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', especially in the end, where [[spoiler:he uses guns and stands primarily on two legs, in contrast to Caesar, who remains on all fours]]. His name is even a nickname for UsefulNotes/JosefStalin, who served as the allegorical character that Napoleon is based off of.

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** It's easy to draw comparisons between [[BigBad Koba]] and is comparable to Napoleon from ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', especially in as both are selfish power-seekers who were EvilAllAlong, and eventually come to resemble the end, where [[spoiler:he uses guns and stands primarily on two legs, in contrast to Caesar, who remains on all fours]]. His name is even a nickname for UsefulNotes/JosefStalin, who served as humans they were fighting against. Additionally, both can be associated with UsefulNotes/JosefStalin; specifically, the ape has Stalin's nickname, while the Berkshire boar was written to be an allegorical character that Napoleon is based off of.representation of him.
23rd Feb '17 10:03:07 AM omnicritic
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** Caesar and Koba's conflict bears quite a few similarities to that of [[Characters/TheWalkingDeadTVShowRickGrimes Rick Grimes]] and Shane Walsh's feud in fellow post-apocalyptic series ''Series/TheWalkingDead''. The more idealistic hero tries to remain moral and reasonable, while his [[FightingTheLancer lieutenant advocates ruthless, albeit pragmatic violence and ultimately becomes a monster for it]]. Both series also deal with the theme of whether HumansAreTheRealMonsters are not, and whether it applies to all humans.

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** Caesar and Koba's conflict bears quite a few similarities to that of [[Characters/TheWalkingDeadTVShowRickGrimes Rick Grimes]] and Shane Walsh's feud in fellow post-apocalyptic series ''Series/TheWalkingDead''. The more idealistic hero tries to remain moral and reasonable, while his [[FightingTheLancer lieutenant advocates ruthless, albeit pragmatic violence and ultimately becomes a monster for it]]. Both series also deal with the theme of whether HumansAreTheRealMonsters are or not, and whether it applies to all humans.
2nd Feb '17 7:22:11 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
10th Dec '16 9:51:43 PM jake38
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* OvershadowedByControversy: In a promotional interview for the film, Gary Oldman made a very poor choice of words while criticizing what he felt to be PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad in Hollywood, making it sound like he was supporting Mel Gibson and other celebrities who voice offensive opinions. After seeing it in print, he quickly realized how badly it came off and set about apologizing, saying he let down his responsibility to set a good example for his fans.
** NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: This, however, didn't prevent the film from becoming a major critical and commercial success.
1st Dec '16 7:24:30 AM Chris116
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* CounterpartComparison: It's easy to draw comparisons between [[BigBad Koba]] and Napoleon from ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', especially in the end, where [[spoiler:he uses guns and stands primarily on two legs, in contrast to Caesar, who remains on all fours]]. His name is even a nickname for UsefulNotes/JosefStalin, who served as the allegorical character that Napoleon is based off of.

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It's easy to draw comparisons between [[BigBad Koba]] and Napoleon from ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', especially in the end, where [[spoiler:he uses guns and stands primarily on two legs, in contrast to Caesar, who remains on all fours]]. His name is even a nickname for UsefulNotes/JosefStalin, who served as the allegorical character that Napoleon is based off of.of.
** Caesar and Koba's conflict bears quite a few similarities to that of [[Characters/TheWalkingDeadTVShowRickGrimes Rick Grimes]] and Shane Walsh's feud in fellow post-apocalyptic series ''Series/TheWalkingDead''. The more idealistic hero tries to remain moral and reasonable, while his [[FightingTheLancer lieutenant advocates ruthless, albeit pragmatic violence and ultimately becomes a monster for it]]. Both series also deal with the theme of whether HumansAreTheRealMonsters are not, and whether it applies to all humans.
26th Nov '16 6:12:58 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon taking over the city, Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city, city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
12th Nov '16 5:59:52 PM nombretomado
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* CounterpartComparison: It's easy to draw comparisons between [[BigBad Koba]] and Napoleon from ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', especially in the end, where [[spoiler:he uses guns and stands primarily on two legs, in contrast to Caesar, who remains on all fours]]. His name is even a nickname for JosefStalin, who served as the allegorical character that Napoleon is based off of.

to:

* CounterpartComparison: It's easy to draw comparisons between [[BigBad Koba]] and Napoleon from ''Literature/AnimalFarm'', especially in the end, where [[spoiler:he uses guns and stands primarily on two legs, in contrast to Caesar, who remains on all fours]]. His name is even a nickname for JosefStalin, UsefulNotes/JosefStalin, who served as the allegorical character that Napoleon is based off of.
14th Sep '16 8:13:43 PM Clown-Face
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic]] [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] [[AbsoluteXenophobe of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon taking over the city, Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.

to:

* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic]] [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon taking over the city, Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
14th Sep '16 3:17:29 PM DisneyFan94
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon taking over the city, Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape xenophobic]] [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] [[AbsoluteXenophobe of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon taking over the city, Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]] Selfish and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
12th Jul '16 12:46:50 PM VoiceInTheWasteland
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[GeniusBruiser Maurice]], even more so here than in the first film. ''No one'' gets the better of him, not even Koba.
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