History YMMV / DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes

5th Nov '17 2:49:32 PM Scraggle
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash, his own ''nephew'', to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns burn down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash, his own ''nephew'', Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
4th Nov '17 7:23:39 AM ErikModi
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** If you didn't think the Koba-POV tank shot looked awful, then you thought it looked awesome.
4th Nov '17 7:21:01 AM ErikModi
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* TheScrappy: Carver. An impulsive jerk who risks the lives of not only the group but the entire human settlement. After having already shot an ape he later smuggles in a gun and then acts aggressive towards Caesar's infant son to try and conceal this. The reason for his general attitude? Carver blames the apes for the pandemic, despite knowing full well it was a man-made virus. Then drags up past deaths in an effort to try driving home this rather flawed point.

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* TheScrappy: Carver. An impulsive jerk who risks the lives of not only the group but the entire human settlement. After having already shot an ape he later smuggles in a gun and then acts aggressive towards Caesar's infant son to try and conceal this.this (and when Blue Eyes goes after Carver for trying to shoo Cornelius away from the gun, Carver ''pulls out the very gun he was trying to hide and threatens Blue Eyes with it'', earning a beatdown from Caesar himself). The reason for his general attitude? Carver blames the apes for the pandemic, despite knowing full well it was a man-made virus. Then drags up past deaths in an effort to try driving home this rather flawed point.
13th Oct '17 9:20:29 AM Wiseoung-5
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash Ash, his own ''nephew'', to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
29th Sep '17 5:45:57 AM troperHearts
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** In some circles, Koba and Caesar have been compared to Magneto and Professor X respectively, specifically in how they deal with the humans (Caesar prefers peaceful means, while Koba prefers a more aggressive approach[[note]] at one point he even shows his horrific experiences in [=GenSys=] ("Human Work?!") shaped his views on humans, much like how Magneto's experiences at Auschwitz made him see humans in a negative light.[[/note]])

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** In some circles, Koba and Caesar have been compared to Magneto and Professor X respectively, specifically in how they deal with the humans (Caesar prefers peaceful means, while Koba prefers a more aggressive approach[[note]] at one point he even shows how his horrific experiences in at [=GenSys=] ("Human Work?!") shaped his views on humans, much like how Magneto's experiences at Auschwitz made him see humans in a negative light.[[/note]])
29th Sep '17 5:44:57 AM troperHearts
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** In some circles, Koba and Caesar have been compared to Magneto and Professor X respectively, specifically in how they deal with the humans (Caesar prefers peaceful means, while Koba prefers a more aggressive approach[[note]] he even makes a point of how his horrific experiences with humans shaped his views on them, much like how Magneto's experiences at Auschwitz shaped his views on humans[[/note]])

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** In some circles, Koba and Caesar have been compared to Magneto and Professor X respectively, specifically in how they deal with the humans (Caesar prefers peaceful means, while Koba prefers a more aggressive approach[[note]] at one point he even makes a point of how shows his horrific experiences with humans in [=GenSys=] ("Human Work?!") shaped his views on them, humans, much like how Magneto's experiences at Auschwitz shaped his views on humans[[/note]])made him see humans in a negative light.[[/note]])
29th Sep '17 5:42:30 AM troperHearts
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** In some circles, Koba and Caesar have been compared to Magneto and Professor X respectively, specifically in how they deal with the humans (Caesar through peaceful means, while Koba prefers a more aggressive approach[[note]]even making a point of how his horrific experiences with humans shaped his views on them, much like Magneto's experiences at Auschwitz shaped his views on humans[[/note]])

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** In some circles, Koba and Caesar have been compared to Magneto and Professor X respectively, specifically in how they deal with the humans (Caesar through prefers peaceful means, while Koba prefers a more aggressive approach[[note]]even making approach[[note]] he even makes a point of how his horrific experiences with humans shaped his views on them, much like how Magneto's experiences at Auschwitz shaped his views on humans[[/note]])
29th Sep '17 5:39:18 AM troperHearts
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** In some circles, Koba and Caesar have been compared to Magneto and Professor X respectively, specifically in how they deal with the humans (Caesar through peaceful means, while Koba prefers a more aggressive approach[[note]]even making a point of how his horrific experiences with humans shaped his views on them, much like Magneto's experiences at Auschwitz shaped his views on humans[[/note]])
5th Sep '17 2:59:21 PM DisneyFan94
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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.

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* CompleteMonster: [[ItsAllAboutMe Koba]] is a [[AbsoluteXenophobe xenophobic ape of the highest order]]. Initially loyal to Caesar, Koba is disgusted with the fact that Caesar would bring humans into their territory. After being told off by Caesar for the last time, Koba decides to betray his leader and take matters into his own hands. Displaying his callousness by murdering two helpless guards, Koba raids the armory of the human city, [[spoiler:returning to shoot Caesar and burns down his former home. Pinning the blame on the humans,]] Koba rallies the misguided apes into attacking San Francisco, slaughtering dozens of innocents. He doesn't tolerate being compared to Caesar: he demonstrates this by [[spoiler:[[KickTheDog cruelly tossing the young Ash to his death]]]] when he refuses to kill defenseless people in Caesar's name. Upon [[TyrantTakesTheHelm taking over the city]], Koba imposes his rule on both humans and apes alike, trapping the humans in cages, imprisoning the apes still loyal to Caesar in chains, and turning the rest into fanatically loyal soldiers who are still under the impression Caesar is dead. When finally confronted by Caesar, Koba tries to savagely beat him to death with a metal bar, proclaiming that he is the stronger ape. When defeated, [[VillainousBreakdown Koba snaps and starts gunning down his former comrades, even as Caesar is trying to help them]]. Even though Koba had an [[FreudianExcuse excuse]] in the form of [[BeingTorturedMakesYouEvil science-related torture]], Koba was far from the only ape to have been tortured, and yet none of the others turned out evil. [[spoiler:Caesar ultimately decides it's perfectly reasonable to drop the traitorous bonobo [[SeldomSeenSpecies bonobo]] to his death, stating that he is [[NoTrueScotsman "not ape."]]]] [[ItsAllAboutMe Selfish]] and brutal, Koba perfectly represented the savagery found in both humans and apes alike.
27th Aug '17 6:44:55 AM jormis29
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** [[TheCaligula Koba]] is also heavily similar to [[TheLionKing Scar]] since both attempted to take control of the leadership of their various species by killing the current leader and manipulating their newphews into believing them. Also, Koba is shown to have followers who defected from Caesar after his death, much like the Outsiders.

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** [[TheCaligula Koba]] is also heavily similar to [[TheLionKing [[Disney/TheLionKing Scar]] since both attempted to take control of the leadership of their various species by killing the current leader and manipulating their newphews into believing them. Also, Koba is shown to have followers who defected from Caesar after his death, much like the Outsiders.



** Koba's chant of "Apes Together Strong" is very similar to the song "Lions Over All" in TheLionGuard. What just happens to be the name of one of the singers? Zira.

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** Koba's chant of "Apes Together Strong" is very similar to the song "Lions Over All" in TheLionGuard.''WesternAnimation/TheLionGuard''. What just happens to be the name of one of the singers? Zira.
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