History YMMV / DarkAngel

8th Mar '16 10:17:49 AM Mullon
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** 9/11 happened between seasons, and suddenly portraying the government as evil, portraying the police as evil, portraying as America evil could all lead to spectacular backlash. All those aspects had to be toned down, even though they're all necessary in a {{Cyberpunk}} setting.

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** 9/11 happened between seasons, and suddenly portraying the government as evil, portraying the police as evil, portraying as America as evil could all lead to spectacular backlash. All those aspects had to be toned down, even though they're all necessary in a {{Cyberpunk}} setting.



** Most importantly, [[NarmCharm the cheese was gone]], along with the TotallyRadical. No more stories about Max going into heat and having to distract herself, or making enough money to bribe the police, or rescuing her friends from Japanese gangsters. Instead it was all about collecting lost transgenics, which were too serious and low budget to be exciting, and not fun enough to make up for it.

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** Most importantly, [[NarmCharm the cheese was gone]], along with the TotallyRadical. No more stories about Max going into heat and having to distract herself, or making enough money to bribe the police, or rescuing her friends from Japanese gangsters. Instead it was all about collecting lost transgenics, which were too serious and low budget to be exciting, and not fun enough to make up for it. Not that the show wasn't about finding lost transgenics before, the first season was about Max trying to find her family, but she did other stuff as well.
7th Mar '16 10:07:04 PM Mullon
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* TheScrappy: Asha was another one of Logan's agents introduced in the second purely to drive a romantic wedge between Max and Logan. That of course pissed off the shippers, meanwhile she had no interesting personality or skills of her own.

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* TheScrappy: Asha was another one of Logan's agents introduced in the second purely to drive a romantic wedge between Max and Logan. That of course pissed off the shippers, meanwhile shippers. Meanwhile she had no interesting personality or skills of her own.



** 9/11 happened between seasons, and suddenly portraying the government as evil, portraying the police as evil, portraying as America evil could all lead to spectacular backlash. So all those aspects had to be toned down, even though they're all necessary in a {{Cyberpunk}} setting.
** Max and Logan admitted their feelings to each other but the writers wanted to keep the dramatic tension so Max was infected with a virus that kept her and Logan from touching. Instead of the flirty WillTheyOrWontThey of the first season the audience got romantic {{Wangst}}.
** Max and Original Cindy's social lives disappeared along with a large part of their social circle. Instead of hanging out with their friends and dealing with dystopic city life, Max spent all of her time getting Alec and Joshua out of trouble and whining about it. Great for Jensen Ackles fans, bad for everyone else.

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** 9/11 happened between seasons, and suddenly portraying the government as evil, portraying the police as evil, portraying as America evil could all lead to spectacular backlash. So all All those aspects had to be toned down, even though they're all necessary in a {{Cyberpunk}} setting.
** Max and Logan admitted their feelings to each other but the writers wanted to keep the dramatic tension tension, so Max was infected with a virus that kept her and Logan from touching. Instead of the flirty WillTheyOrWontThey of the first season the audience got romantic {{Wangst}}.
** Max and Original Cindy's social lives disappeared along with a large part of their social circle. Instead of hanging out with their friends and dealing with dystopic city life, Max spent all of her time getting Alec and Joshua out of trouble and whining about it. Great for Jensen Ackles Creator/JensenAckles fans, bad for everyone else.



** Most importantly [[NarmCharm the cheese was gone]]. No more stories about Max going into heat and having to distract herself, or making enough money to bribe the police, or rescuing her friends from Japanese gangsters. Instead it was all about collecting lost transgenics, which were too serious and low budget to be exciting, and not fun enough to make up for it.

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** Most importantly importantly, [[NarmCharm the cheese was gone]].gone]], along with the TotallyRadical. No more stories about Max going into heat and having to distract herself, or making enough money to bribe the police, or rescuing her friends from Japanese gangsters. Instead it was all about collecting lost transgenics, which were too serious and low budget to be exciting, and not fun enough to make up for it.
7th Mar '16 10:04:40 PM Mullon
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%%* TheScrappy: Asha. Just... Asha.

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%%* * TheScrappy: Asha. Just... Asha.Asha was another one of Logan's agents introduced in the second purely to drive a romantic wedge between Max and Logan. That of course pissed off the shippers, meanwhile she had no interesting personality or skills of her own.
* SecondSeasonDownfall: The show had so many problems with it's second season that even if it wasn't moved to the FridayNightDeathSlot it still probably would have been cancelled.
** 9/11 happened between seasons, and suddenly portraying the government as evil, portraying the police as evil, portraying as America evil could all lead to spectacular backlash. So all those aspects had to be toned down, even though they're all necessary in a {{Cyberpunk}} setting.
** Max and Logan admitted their feelings to each other but the writers wanted to keep the dramatic tension so Max was infected with a virus that kept her and Logan from touching. Instead of the flirty WillTheyOrWontThey of the first season the audience got romantic {{Wangst}}.
** Max and Original Cindy's social lives disappeared along with a large part of their social circle. Instead of hanging out with their friends and dealing with dystopic city life, Max spent all of her time getting Alec and Joshua out of trouble and whining about it. Great for Jensen Ackles fans, bad for everyone else.
** Manticore's serious and believable plot about trying to get back their property was replaced with an AncientConspiracy plot that was needlessly vague and obtuse, like the show wanted to create a mystery but did not know what the mystery was.
** Most importantly [[NarmCharm the cheese was gone]]. No more stories about Max going into heat and having to distract herself, or making enough money to bribe the police, or rescuing her friends from Japanese gangsters. Instead it was all about collecting lost transgenics, which were too serious and low budget to be exciting, and not fun enough to make up for it.
29th Jan '16 6:30:32 AM HighCrate
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* MagnumOpus: ''Darkness Descends'', which is widely seen by thrashers as one of the genre's pinnacles. Fans of the more progressive side of thrash sometimes side with ''Time Does Not Heal'' instead.
8th Aug '15 10:47:20 PM Magmortar75
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* BrokenBase: A lot of it between their first two and latter two albums, but the main points of contention are Don Doty vs. Ron Rinehart and the general decrease in brutality after ''Darkness Descends''.
* FaceOfTheBand: Gene Hoglan.
* MagnumOpus: ''Darkness Descends'', which is widely seen by thrashers as one of the genre's pinnacles. Fans of the more progressive side of thrash sometimes side with ''Time Does Not Heal'' instead.
* SequelDisplacement: It's not by any means the best (neither in fame or in quality), but there was indeed an album before ''Darkness Descends''. Not helping matters is that one of the songs on the album was recorded again for ''Descends''.
* SignatureSong: "Merciless Death" or "The Burning of Sodom".
5th Dec '14 4:29:34 PM Anicomicgeek
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* JustHereForGodzilla: Many people on forums confess to only watching for JensenAckles. Unfortunately, this usually means they watch only "Pollo Loco" and Season Two and thus don't appreciate that Season One is also good.
** Both SkyOne and {{SyFy}} in the UK (when it was still Sci-Fi) implied in their trailers that the main reason to be watching was Creator/JessicaAlba. This proved to be the case for [[TestosteroneBrigade a lot of people]] (and unlike Jensen Ackles, she appears in every single episode).

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* JustHereForGodzilla: Many people on forums confess to only watching for JensenAckles.Creator/JensenAckles. Unfortunately, this usually means they watch only "Pollo Loco" and Season Two and thus don't appreciate that Season One is also good.
** Both SkyOne Creator/SkyOne and {{SyFy}} Creator/{{SyFy}} in the UK (when it was still Sci-Fi) implied in their trailers that the main reason to be watching was Creator/JessicaAlba. This proved to be the case for [[TestosteroneBrigade a lot of people]] (and unlike Jensen Ackles, she appears in every single episode).



* MomentOfAwesome:
** Max swinging down like Tarzan in the DieHardOnAnX episode "Prodigy" and catching Logan as he's thrown off a roof.
** "Female Trouble" is basically made of Awesome (and one of the few episodes not to have a [[DownerEnding Downer]] / BittersweetEnding), but especially Max blowing Lydecker a kiss as she jumps over him on her motorcycle.
** Max ''finally'' beating seven shades of shit out of Alec in "Fuhgeddaboudit" ("[[AndThisIsFor ...that's for whatever stupid thing you do next...]]").
** Gem, the pregnant X5 in the SeriesFinale "Freak Nation," gets one of her own during the climactic siege at Jam Pony; one of the villains crashes next to her and she lays the baddie out with one punch... ''in the middle of her giving birth.''
5th Dec '14 4:27:27 PM Anicomicgeek
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Only appeared in one episode, but proved popular with the fans. And with the writers, so that they decided to bring JensenAckles back as his clone, albeit with a very different personality.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Only Ben/X5-493 only appeared in one episode, but proved popular with the fans. And with the writers, so that they decided to bring JensenAckles back as his clone, albeit with a very different personality.
5th Dec '14 4:14:36 PM Anicomicgeek
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Only appeared in one episode, but proved popular with the fans. And with the writers, so that they decided to bring JensenAckles back as his clone, albeit with a very different personality.
16th Feb '14 1:22:02 AM m8e
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** Both SkyOne and {{SyFy}} in the UK (when it was still Sci-Fi) implied in their trailers that the main reason to be watching was JessicaAlba. This proved to be the case for [[TestosteroneBrigade a lot of people]] (and unlike Jensen Ackles, she appears in every single episode).

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** Both SkyOne and {{SyFy}} in the UK (when it was still Sci-Fi) implied in their trailers that the main reason to be watching was JessicaAlba.Creator/JessicaAlba. This proved to be the case for [[TestosteroneBrigade a lot of people]] (and unlike Jensen Ackles, she appears in every single episode).
30th Dec '13 8:27:35 AM Silverblade2
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* MagnificentBastard: Lydecker.

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* %%* MagnificentBastard: Lydecker.
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