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* BetterThanCanon: Though only published recently in a few Daring Do Fanzines, ''Daring Do and the Elements of Harmony'' has quickly become the most famous and well-liked fan work out there. Published under an obvious pseudonym, rumor has it it was written by Princess Celestia herself.
** Most of the collaborative fanworks by two ponies with the pen names [=MagicSpark=] and Rainboom20% are praised for this as well. Except for Rainboom20%'s infamous story "{{D|arkFic}}iamonds", in which Herpy [[spoiler: goes nuts and does [[NightmareFuel horr]][[ColdBloodedTorture ible]] ''[[KillTheCutie hor]][[MoralEventHorizon rible]]'' things to Daring in his basement]] [[note]] It was the first fan fiction to receive the "'''Grimdark as BUCK'''" rating on Derring Do Daily]][[/note]]. Fortunately, she admits that it was just a TrollFic and apologized after [=MagicSpark=] forced her to.
*** Allegedly, [=MagicSpark=] also made Rainboom20% use an alias and write a sequel [[spoiler: revealing that it was AllJustADream and ending in a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming tender, friendly hug]] between Herpy and Daring]].

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* BetterThanCanon: BetterThanCanon:
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Though only published recently in a few Daring Do Fanzines, ''Daring Do and the Elements of Harmony'' has quickly become the most famous and well-liked fan work out there. Published under an obvious pseudonym, rumor has it it was written by Princess Celestia herself.
** Most of the collaborative fanworks by two ponies with the pen names [=MagicSpark=] and Rainboom20% [=Rainboom20%=] are praised for this as well. Except for Rainboom20%'s [=Rainboom20%'s=] infamous story "{{D|arkFic}}iamonds", in which Herpy [[spoiler: goes nuts and does [[NightmareFuel horr]][[ColdBloodedTorture ible]] ''[[KillTheCutie hor]][[MoralEventHorizon rible]]'' things to Daring in his basement]] [[note]] It was the first fan fiction to receive the "'''Grimdark as BUCK'''" rating on Derring Do Daily]][[/note]]. Fortunately, she admits that it was just a TrollFic and apologized after [=MagicSpark=] forced her to.
*** Allegedly, [=MagicSpark=] also made Rainboom20% [=Rainboom20%=] use an alias and write a sequel [[spoiler: revealing that it was AllJustADream and ending in a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming tender, friendly hug]] between Herpy and Daring]].



*** And now they have some friends online who write great fanfictions as well; [=SweetApple04=] writes excellent action stories, Queen-Of-Fashion09 writes surprisingly good romance stories and designs lovely and remarkably accurate cosplay, [=PinkPartyPwny18=] writes a plethora of different stories but specializes in fast-paced comedies and a few weirdly cute [[YaoiFangirl Herpy/Bravado]] SlashFics, and [=ImmaDragon10=], who writes crazy CrackFic. [=StareMaster17=] doesn't really write much, but she does post some marvelous fanart.

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*** And now they have some friends online who write great fanfictions as well; [=SweetApple04=] writes excellent action stories, Queen-Of-Fashion09 Queen-Of-[=Fashion09=] writes surprisingly good romance stories and designs lovely and remarkably accurate cosplay, [=PinkPartyPwny18=] writes a plethora of different stories but specializes in fast-paced comedies and a few weirdly cute [[YaoiFangirl Herpy/Bravado]] SlashFics, and [=ImmaDragon10=], who writes crazy CrackFic. [=StareMaster17=] doesn't really write much, but she does post some marvelous fanart.



** Well known cosplayer [=BerryshinePuncher=] has gotten a lot of praise for her well written shipping fanfics, though once she typed up an entire [[YaoiFangirl Bravado/Herpy fic]] ''while drunk'' and shared it on Dochan for a [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments good laugh with the fandom]], typos and all!
** [=HandStringsGirl=], despite some of her self-inserts with her and Ahuizotl, is easily one of the finest writers of crossovers between ''My Small Human,'' and the Daring Do series, to the point where she was recently given a Con Panel at Darrincon 1002.
*** She has since written or contributed to three Polo House New Adventures under the name L. Heartstrings.
** [=BloodyBlueCompassRose=] is by no means a great fanfic writer. He is [[SmallNameBigEgo really full of himself]] and his OC is a blatant MarySue, a dashing prince with a Cutie Mark similar to Daring's. However, his works are VERY popular fodder for {{MST}} readings, and lots of writers like including his OC as a conflict-driving royal jerkass, a full-on villain, or just a plain old bucking bag.
*** StylisticSuck: It turns out "his" works were written by a disgruntled ex-marefriend of Prince Blueblood, who himself doesn't pay attention to the series.

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** Well known cosplayer [=BerryshinePuncher=] has gotten a lot of praise for her well written well-written shipping fanfics, though once she typed up an entire [[YaoiFangirl Bravado/Herpy fic]] ''while drunk'' and shared it on Dochan for a [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments good laugh with the fandom]], typos and all!
** [=HandStringsGirl=], despite some of her self-inserts with her and Ahuizotl, is easily one of the finest writers of crossovers between ''My Small Human,'' and the Daring Do series, to the point where she was recently given a Con Panel at Darrincon 1002.
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1002. She has since written or contributed to three Polo House New Adventures under the name L. Heartstrings.
** [=BloodyBlueCompassRose=] is by no means a great fanfic writer. He is [[SmallNameBigEgo really full of himself]] and his OC is a blatant MarySue, a dashing prince with a Cutie Mark similar to Daring's. However, his works are VERY popular fodder for {{MST}} readings, and lots of writers like including his OC as a conflict-driving royal jerkass, a full-on villain, or just a plain old bucking bag.
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bag. StylisticSuck: It turns out "his" works were written by a disgruntled ex-marefriend of Prince Blueblood, who himself doesn't pay attention to the series.



*** There's a fanfiction by Rainboom20% (see above) that parodies this; Daring finds herself caught in the middle of a love triangle which eventually comes to blows...[[spoiler: and then she smacks both boys, tells them that she's MarriedToTheJob and flies off in a huff]].

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*** There's a fanfiction by Rainboom20% [=Rainboom20%=] (see above) that parodies this; Daring finds herself caught in the middle of a love triangle which eventually comes to blows...[[spoiler: and blows... [[spoiler:and then she smacks both boys, tells them that she's MarriedToTheJob and flies off in a huff]].



* CanonDefilement: [[FanDumb Some fans]] claim that ''Blood Diamonds'' does this on account of Daring being the only established character to show up, and only doing a little archeaology in the beginning, despite the author stating he didn't include other past characters to ''avoid'' CanonDefilement and pointing out that Daring flies solo and does other activities all the time.

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* CanonDefilement: CanonDefilement:
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[[FanDumb Some fans]] claim that ''Blood Diamonds'' does this on account of Daring being the only established character to show up, and only doing a little archeaology in the beginning, despite the author stating he didn't include other past characters to ''avoid'' CanonDefilement and pointing out that Daring flies solo and does other activities all the time.



* DracoInLeatherPants: A subset of the fandom turns Ahuizotl into [[JerkassWoobie an unfortunate, misunderstood woobie who has suffered greatly]]. This is mocked in later books, as well as many of the expanded universe novels.
** There's even a subset of the Daring Do fandom that call themselves "Ahuizotl's kittens". They're his fangirls and one of them (with the username Handstringsgirl) that claims to be his bride on an astral plane. Whatever that means...

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* DracoInLeatherPants: DracoInLeatherPants:
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A subset of the fandom turns Ahuizotl into [[JerkassWoobie an unfortunate, misunderstood woobie who has suffered greatly]]. This is mocked in later books, as well as many of the expanded universe novels.
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novels. There's even a subset of the Daring Do fandom that call themselves "Ahuizotl's kittens". They're his fangirls and one of them (with the username Handstringsgirl) that claims to be his bride on an astral plane. Whatever that means...



* EvilIsSexy: Daring's slow but gradual corruption in "The Wooden Mask" is described in... ''Interesting'' detail. There are some fanfic writers who make her evil again to get her back into this look.

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* EvilIsSexy: EvilIsSexy:
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Daring's slow but gradual corruption in "The Wooden Mask" is described in... ''Interesting'' detail. There are some fanfic writers who make her evil again to get her back into this look.



* FanonDiscontinuity: The recent book ''Daring Do and the Legacy of Nightmare Moon'' has suffered this treatment for straying from the core principles of the franchise, including neither Ahuizotl or ancient artifacts. Instead the book focused on thwarting the plot of the draconic Inti to use the magic of the stars to conquer Equestria.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
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The recent book ''Daring Do and the Legacy of Nightmare Moon'' has suffered this treatment for straying from the core principles of the franchise, including neither Ahuizotl or ancient artifacts. Instead the book focused on thwarting the plot of the draconic Inti to use the magic of the stars to conquer Equestria.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: For some off screen comment, Storm Talon gives Nagridge a swear-laden rant that runs through every single vulgarity in every language he could think of before making up new ones so he doesn't have to repeat himself. He went so far as to invent a new language to indulge this behavior. The rant itself is compared in length to [[AuthorFilibuster John Colt's speech]] in [[Literature/AtlasShrugged Atlas Bucked]]. The whole thing is PlayedForLaughs. However, in ''Ring of the Marengeti'', several books after Nagridge's death, Okpono confronts Storm and wants to know why [[SpeakIllOfTheDead he won't let his grudge go]] given how much this upsets her nephew (especially since in Vulgarian, Storm's new language, the word "Nagridge" is considered one of the most offensive words out there), when everyone else eventually forgave her, if posthumously. Storm calls back to his infamous rant and why he won't let it go when Okpono might:
--> '''Storm Talon:''' "She didn't tell you the world was better off without your kids."

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: FunnyAneurysmMoment:
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For some off screen comment, Storm Talon gives Nagridge a swear-laden rant that runs through every single vulgarity in every language he could think of before making up new ones so he doesn't have to repeat himself. He went so far as to invent a new language to indulge this behavior. The rant itself is compared in length to [[AuthorFilibuster John Colt's speech]] in [[Literature/AtlasShrugged Atlas Bucked]]. The whole thing is PlayedForLaughs. However, in ''Ring of the Marengeti'', several books after Nagridge's death, Okpono confronts Storm and wants to know why [[SpeakIllOfTheDead he won't let his grudge go]] given how much this upsets her nephew (especially since in Vulgarian, Storm's new language, the word "Nagridge" is considered one of the most offensive words out there), when everyone else eventually forgave her, if posthumously. Storm calls back to his infamous rant and why he won't let it go when Okpono might:
--> '''Storm --->'''Storm Talon:''' "She She didn't tell you the world was better off without your kids."



* GeniusBonus: Ahuizotl's design is based on an actual creature from ancient Hayan mythology.

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* GeniusBonus: GeniusBonus:
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Ahuizotl's design is based on an actual creature from ancient Hayan mythology.



* HarsherInHindsight: In ''Daring Do and the Alicorn's Shadow'' a old griffon healer mentions the Great Beasts of Chaos and Destruction will arrive to reclaim their land. Of course, Chaos is Discord and Destruction is [[spoiler: Tirac]]. Then you-know-who escaped his stone prison and tried to take over. The other hasn't happened yet, but hey it's just a story right?

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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In ''Daring Do and the Alicorn's Shadow'' a an old griffon healer mentions the Great Beasts of Chaos and Destruction will arrive to reclaim their land. Of course, Chaos is Discord and Destruction is [[spoiler: Tirac]]. Then you-know-who escaped his stone prison and tried to take over. The other hasn't happened yet, but hey it's just a story right?



*** And at the end of ''Return of the Fire of Friendship'', a [[spoiler:dying]] King Mayhem said that the Changelings would take Equestria. Three years later...

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*** ** And at the end of ''Return of the Fire of Friendship'', a [[spoiler:dying]] King Mayhem said that the Changelings would take Equestria. Three years later...



*** Adding to that, Princess Sparkler was in part a hugely exaggerated caricature of one of Gusty Lulamoon's relatives. [[http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/315/5/d/trixieville__not_mine__by_sethisto-d5knmm3.jpg Then this happened, making it not so exaggerated.]] Fortunately, eyewitness accounts indicate that she seems to have gotten over it.

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*** ** Adding to that, Princess Sparkler was in part a hugely exaggerated caricature of one of Gusty Lulamoon's relatives. [[http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/315/5/d/trixieville__not_mine__by_sethisto-d5knmm3.jpg Then this happened, making it not so exaggerated.]] Fortunately, eyewitness accounts indicate that she seems to have gotten over it.



* HellIsThatNoise: The Assembler's [[spoiler:clanking gears]].

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* HellIsThatNoise: HellIsThatNoise:
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The Assembler's [[spoiler:clanking gears]].



* HilariousInHindsight: The eerie similarities between Princess Sparkler from ''Amber of the Smooze'' and Princess Twilight Sparkle. Especially hilarious considering the upcoming sequel, involving Princess Sparkler, which had been in development for months before Twilight Sparkle was coronated. Not to mention the fact that Princess Sparkler's actual inspiration has met Princess Twilight on multiple occasions.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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The eerie similarities between Princess Sparkler from ''Amber of the Smooze'' and Princess Twilight Sparkle. Especially hilarious considering the upcoming sequel, involving Princess Sparkler, which had been in development for months before Twilight Sparkle was coronated. Not to mention the fact that Princess Sparkler's actual inspiration has met Princess Twilight on multiple occasions.



* HoYay: Daren and Storm Talon's falling apart has shades of this. The fact that they were both married to others does little to alter this.

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* HoYay: HoYay:
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Daren and Storm Talon's falling apart has shades of this. The fact that they were both married to others does little to alter this.



-->'''Outback Jack''': She's certainly lively for such a shy pony.

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-->'''Outback Jack''': --->'''Outback Jack:''' She's certainly lively for such a shy pony.



* InNameOnly : The second radio adaption of "Quest for The Sapphire Stone". Among other things, Ahuizotl is now a griffon, and the Sapphire Stone is a sword. The only things it seems to share in common with the actual book is the protagonist.
* ItWasHisSled: Surprisingly subverted, in the case of ''The Sad Statue'', as the fanbase have shown a remarkable solidarity in avoiding letting any of the twists - including the ''first chapter'' - reach this point. Just look at the synopsis on the main page.

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* InNameOnly : InNameOnly: The second radio adaption of "Quest for The the Sapphire Stone". Among other things, Ahuizotl is now a griffon, and the Sapphire Stone is a sword. The only things it seems to share in common with the actual book is the protagonist.
* ItWasHisSled: ItWasHisSled:
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Surprisingly subverted, in the case of ''The Sad Statue'', as the fanbase have shown a remarkable solidarity in avoiding letting any of the twists - -- including the ''first chapter'' - -- reach this point. Just look at the synopsis on the main page.



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Daring Do. Holy horseapples, Daring Do. This ranges from the obvious (Herpy [[OneTrueThreesome and]]/or Bravado) to the [[SlashFic slashy]] (Tabula Rasa, Desert Rose or Outback Jack in particular), to the {{Squick}}y (Darrin or Derring), to the [[CrackPairing bizarre]] and occasionally disturbing (eg, [[CargoShip the university staff room fridge]]. Yes, [[AnythingButThat that]] fridge).

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: JerkassWoobie:
** [[spoiler:You ''will'' pity Sweeney Trot, AKA, Benjamin Gaiter.]]
** And [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Steam Whistle]]]], too.
** And Fuergott.
** The Colt of Smooze. From the abuse the Colt Leader suffered at the hands of the dragon who may have been her father, to Charity seeing her unit massacred, to Attic Fan's suffering as a slave, every one of them has a horrible backstory. [[spoiler: Then they get melted by the Smooze and the Assembler takes the remainder apart, alive and fully conscious]]. The worst part? It's called Smooze corruption because the Smooze subverts ponies' wills. [[spoiler: The Assembler disassembled ponies who were alive and awake that were probably brainwashed.]]
** Darrin has his moments, especially when talking about Derring's abandonment. He may act like he doesn't care most of the time, but there are certain moments when it's clear that his sister leaving stung. A ''lot''.
** Kimmy, in ''Never Forgive Me'', where she is tortured into insanity. Then in ''The Crimson Horde, she's just getting her mind back when [[spoiler:she is murdered by her former torturer, now Talonus' latest [[TheDragon trusted lieutenant]]]].
** Serpentine in ''Cloudfall Conspiracy''. It's never made clear just what she's seen during her years of working for Sterling Silver, but she's shown to be very terrified of just the mention of his name.
** Eichelhäher in ''Breathing Weapons'' can be seen as this, having undergone Krahe's experimentation and [[spoiler: essentially become a super-powered zombie]] just to try to stop being exploited by those stronger than her. The kicker? It doesn't even work, and she's still badly mistreated by the rest of the Greifvogel.
** Sebastian Arzt shows strong signs of this.
** Poor Shudder. She's considered ugly by her entire pack, her only relative controls her entire life and later beats her, she becomes the newest target of an insane killer, all this, and she's only a ''puppy''.
** Gristle seems to qualify. We learn in future books (via call backs) that his facial disfigurement wasn't the result of a freak mining accident, but rather an intentional act of violence from Jackhammer because he was showing Shudder how to mine for jewels (thus, potentially ruining his plans.) He spent the next three years doing nothing but sitting in his area of the caves, getting drunk and sleeping his life away.
* LauncherOfAThousandShips:
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Daring Do. Holy horseapples, Daring Do. This ranges from the obvious (Herpy [[OneTrueThreesome and]]/or Bravado) to the [[SlashFic slashy]] (Tabula Rasa, Desert Rose or Outback Jack in particular), to the {{Squick}}y (Darrin or Derring), to the [[CrackPairing bizarre]] and occasionally disturbing (eg, [[CargoShip the university staff room fridge]]. Yes, [[AnythingButThat that]] fridge).



* MagnificentBastard: Hoo boy Ahuizotl. [[spoiler: He figures out early on that Daring will eventually grab all the artifacts he is searching for, so he starts to put up only enough of a struggle to where she thinks he is giving it his all, while secretly instilling various moles and spies in the University. He also uses a proxy to get Daring to sign off an exhibit that is a reconstruction the Temple Of Nightmare Moon, the fortress from where the Goddess launched her war on the Sun and one of the components necessary to to the ritual he intends to use the artifacts in. This way, when Daring destroys the original temple and brings the final artifact home, he is already waiting there to take and start the ritual.]]

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* MagnificentBastard: MagnificentBastard:
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Hoo boy Ahuizotl. [[spoiler: He figures out early on that Daring will eventually grab all the artifacts he is searching for, so he starts to put up only enough of a struggle to where she thinks he is giving it his all, while secretly instilling various moles and spies in the University. He also uses a proxy to get Daring to sign off an exhibit that is a reconstruction the Temple Of Nightmare Moon, the fortress from where the Goddess launched her war on the Sun and one of the components necessary to to the ritual he intends to use the artifacts in. This way, when Daring destroys the original temple and brings the final artifact home, he is already waiting there to take and start the ritual.]]



* MemeticBadass: In ''Trident of the Seaponies'', there's a crusty old sailor pony who saves Daring Do during a BarBrawl by smacking a frying pan on the head of a {{Mook}}, [[OffHandBackHand all without looking up from his lunch]]. The fans have dubbed him 'Sea-Shanty,' and speculation on his identity have ranged from him being Daring's hired protection to being Celestia's long-lost brother in disguise, with a list of 'facts' as long as your leg. Many of his fans petition endlessly for him to show up in future stories.

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* MemeticBadass: MemeticBadass:
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In ''Trident of the Seaponies'', there's a crusty old sailor pony who saves Daring Do during a BarBrawl by smacking a frying pan on the head of a {{Mook}}, [[OffHandBackHand all without looking up from his lunch]]. The fans have dubbed him 'Sea-Shanty,' "Sea-Shanty", and speculation on his identity have ranged from him being Daring's hired protection to being Celestia's long-lost brother in disguise, with a list of 'facts' as long as your leg. Many of his fans petition endlessly for him to show up in future stories.



* MemeticMolester: Mareton.

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* MemeticMolester: MemeticMolester:
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Mareton.



* MemeticMutation: In the stage adaptation of ''Sapphire Stone'', it has become popular to replace the Sapphire Statue of Anubis with [[http://derpiboo.ru/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sbq=bad+treasure&commit=Go just about anything on hoof]].

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* MemeticMutation: MemeticMutation:
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In the stage adaptation of ''Sapphire Stone'', it has become popular to replace the Sapphire Statue of Anubis with [[http://derpiboo.ru/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sbq=bad+treasure&commit=Go just about anything on hoof]].



-->'''Daring''': You want reality, Berry? Reality is: ''you'' are a ''golem''; '''[[ComicBook/SupermanAtEarthsEnd I AM A MARE!]]''' (''Buck'')
-->'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Lincareing]]''': "Let this be a lesson, my little ponies. When debating, solve you disagreements not by offering friendship, but by screaming, "I AM A MARE!" and bucking them in the legs. Yes, even if you are a stallion you should say that you are a mare, otherwise, it doesn't work."

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-->'''Daring''': --->'''Daring:''' You want reality, Berry? Reality is: ''you'' are a ''golem''; '''[[ComicBook/SupermanAtEarthsEnd I AM A MARE!]]''' (''Buck'')
-->'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Lincareing]]''': "Let
''[buck]''\\
'''[[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Lincareing]]:''' Let
this be a lesson, my little ponies. When debating, solve you disagreements not by offering friendship, but by screaming, "I AM A MARE!" and bucking them in the legs. Yes, even if you are a stallion you should say that you are a mare, otherwise, it doesn't work."



* MoralEventHorizon: In ''Mystery of Flutter Valley'', we meet the Flutterponies, a sweet and innocent species. However, soon after Daring meets them, they all mysteriously disappear, which is the titular mystery that Daring must solve. It eventually turns out that Krastos was the cause of the disappearance. And by disappearance, we mean [[spoiler: genocide]].
** It's worse than that. He didn't just get rid of them, [[spoiler:he had them tortured for all eternity. Fortunately, Daring and her friends were able to save them, bringing them back to the valley in one piece]].

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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In ''Mystery of Flutter Valley'', we meet the Flutterponies, a sweet and innocent species. However, soon after Daring meets them, they all mysteriously disappear, which is the titular mystery that Daring must solve. It eventually turns out that Krastos was the cause of the disappearance. And by disappearance, we mean [[spoiler: genocide]].
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genocide]]. It's worse than that. He didn't just get rid of them, [[spoiler:he had them tortured for all eternity. Fortunately, Daring and her friends were able to save them, bringing them back to the valley in one piece]].



** The full extent of Greyhoof's crimes are revealed in ''Mirror Pond'': [[spoiler: He turned all of Sunnytown into a GroundhogDayLoop, except where it would all end with the murder of Ruby, forcing her to be murdered over and over again. Unfortunately, the presence of an outsider would disrupt the spell, so they would recruit the interloper as a bone fiend. Considering how many bone fiends there were...]]
*** This was hinted at in ''Legend of the Zomponies''.

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** The full extent of Greyhoof's crimes are revealed in ''Mirror Pond'': [[spoiler: He turned all of Sunnytown into a GroundhogDayLoop, except where it would all end with the murder of Ruby, forcing her to be murdered over and over again. Unfortunately, the presence of an outsider would disrupt the spell, so they would recruit the interloper as a bone fiend. Considering how many bone fiends there were...]]
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]] This was hinted at in ''Legend of the Zomponies''.



* NarmCharm: The live stage play features many such moments according to many fans due to the careful balance of {{Camp}} and dramatic delivery from the leading ponies.

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* NarmCharm: NarmCharm:
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The live stage play features many such moments according to many fans due to the careful balance of {{Camp}} and dramatic delivery from the leading ponies.



-->'''King Of Hearts''': '''FROM THE DEPTHS OF THY SOULS, I SEE THAT THY LOVE IS REAL. BY MY COMMAND, MAY YOUR LOVE REMAIN FOR ALL ETERNITY'''. ''Gag.''

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-->'''King --->'''King Of Hearts''': Hearts:''' '''FROM THE DEPTHS OF THY SOULS, I SEE THAT THY LOVE IS REAL. BY MY COMMAND, MAY YOUR LOVE REMAIN FOR ALL ETERNITY'''. ''Gag.''



* OneSceneWonder: Laurentia of the Red Mane in ''Temple of Nightmare Moon''. Stress on "Wonder".

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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
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Laurentia of the Red Mane in ''Temple of Nightmare Moon''. Stress on "Wonder".



*** Arthur, from the same book.

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*** ** Arthur, from the same book.



* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: The book series is considered incredible. The arcade machine ''Daring Do and the Bauble of Mystery'' is considered... incredibly bad by most. It's in no way canon, but it is also SoBadItsGood and is a FountainOfMemes.

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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: TheProblemWithLicensedGames:
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The book series is considered incredible. The arcade machine ''Daring Do and the Bauble of Mystery'' is considered... incredibly bad by most. It's in no way canon, but it is also SoBadItsGood and is a FountainOfMemes.



** A little filly named Short Stuff was introduced in ''Daring Do and the Cove of Candles''...she hasn't been well liked by fans.

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** A little filly named Short Stuff was introduced in ''Daring Do and the Cove of Candles''... she hasn't been well liked by fans.



** The Greifvögel are pretty popular with fans...save for [[TheDragon Rabe]]. He doesn't get much development, and despite hints of backstory, he's nothing more than dumb muscle for Krahe.
** Nopony is saying ''Daring Do and her Robot Clone/Daring Do and the Little Green Stallion from the Stars'' had good characters, but the worst of the lot has to be Verzer Vermillion. With a half-flanked backstory straight out of a sci-fi soap opera (she's apparently Arzt and Eichelhaher's grandaughter from the future, with zero explanation as to how an undead griffon could even give birth) and an obnoxiously punk attitude Rainbow Dash would scoff at, it was unanimously agreed that she's the worst character the series has ever produced.
*** Personality wise, anyway. A lot of fans admit to finding her design appealing, albeit totally wasted on her character.
* SoBadItsGood: See the Mareval Comics run example in "BrokenBase," above.

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** The Greifvögel are pretty popular with fans... save for [[TheDragon Rabe]]. He doesn't get much development, and despite hints of backstory, he's nothing more than dumb muscle for Krahe.
** Nopony is saying ''Daring Do and her Robot Clone/Daring Do and the Little Green Stallion from the Stars'' had good characters, but the worst of the lot has to be Verzer Vermillion. With a half-flanked backstory straight out of a sci-fi soap opera (she's apparently Arzt and Eichelhaher's grandaughter from the future, with zero explanation as to how an undead griffon could even give birth) and an obnoxiously punk attitude Rainbow Dash would scoff at, it was unanimously agreed that she's the worst character the series has ever produced.
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produced. Personality-wise, anyway. A lot of fans admit to finding her design appealing, albeit totally wasted on her character.
* SoBadItsGood: SoBadItsGood:
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See the Mareval Comics run example in "BrokenBase," above.



* {{Squick}}: Rail's attempted relationship with Shudder in ''Iron Grinder''. Rail wants to marry Shudder and take her out of the mines to live as their ex-pack leader did. Keep in mind that Shudder is still a ''puppy''.

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* {{Squick}}: {{Squick}}:
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Rail's attempted relationship with Shudder in ''Iron Grinder''. Rail wants to marry Shudder and take her out of the mines to live as their ex-pack leader did. Keep in mind that Shudder is still a ''puppy''.



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: ''Tinker's Seal'' to ''Revenant's Effigy''. Regardless of your opinion on the latter, the former's been received quite well, and some fans have said it's almost as good as the Yearling canon.
** While ''Sapphire Stone'' is by no means badly written, it is widely criticised for taking what would in later books have been an ActionPrologue and [[{{Padding}} padding]] it out with cascading action, SceneryPorn and flasbacks that don't provide much in the way of character development beyond introducing Darrin and Coco. ''Griffon's Goblet'' is a significant improvement in terms of plot and character development, world-building, pacing, etc, and rates higher with critics and fans alike.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: SurprisinglyImprovedSequel:
**
''Tinker's Seal'' to ''Revenant's Effigy''. Regardless of your opinion on the latter, the former's been received quite well, and some fans have said it's almost as good as the Yearling canon.
** While ''Sapphire Stone'' is by no means badly written, it is widely criticised criticized for taking what would in later books have been an ActionPrologue and [[{{Padding}} padding]] it out with cascading action, SceneryPorn and flasbacks that don't provide much in the way of character development beyond introducing Darrin and Coco. ''Griffon's Goblet'' is a significant improvement in terms of plot and character development, world-building, pacing, etc, etc., and rates higher with critics and fans alike.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: This has been the reaction from some fans after reading how [[spoiler: Koloktos was resurrected and given a minotaur head]] in the ExpandedUniverse story, "Daring-Do and the Redhorn Cult".

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
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This has been the reaction from some fans after reading how [[spoiler: Koloktos was resurrected and given a minotaur head]] in the ExpandedUniverse story, "Daring-Do and the Redhorn Cult".



** Naval enthusiasts cried foul in the ''Pony In A Box'' adaptation's description of the Storm's Vengeance. It was changed from a Tigerhawk-class dreadnought to something closer to the Skylynx-class X-cutter, and while changing it like that might have been accepted as a PragmaticAdaptation (unlikely), griffin air navy naming conventions also put "Usually-Name-of-First-Captain's Vengeance" on their dreadnoughts, whereas cutters would be "Usually-Name-of-First-Captain's ''Wing''". Fortunately, it hasn't reached Mahavir/Mahiavar name debate level hostility.
* TooSoon: Some fans saw the Blank Village sideplot of ''Tinker's Seal'' as this, as the book was written and published during the (still open) investigation into Gusty Lulamoon's death. On the other hoof, the fact that the sideplot was heavily based on Lulamoon's own plans for a sequel, and was written by her close friend and confidant J. Thunderlane Hurricane Jr, came as a consolation to many.

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** Naval enthusiasts cried foul in the ''Pony In A in a Box'' adaptation's description of the Storm's Vengeance. It was changed from a Tigerhawk-class dreadnought to something closer to the Skylynx-class X-cutter, and while changing it like that might have been accepted as a PragmaticAdaptation (unlikely), griffin air navy naming conventions also put "Usually-Name-of-First-Captain's Vengeance" on their dreadnoughts, whereas cutters would be "Usually-Name-of-First-Captain's ''Wing''". Fortunately, it hasn't reached Mahavir/Mahiavar name debate level hostility.
* TooSoon: TooSoon:
**
Some fans saw the Blank Village sideplot of ''Tinker's Seal'' as this, as the book was written and published during the (still open) investigation into Gusty Lulamoon's death. On the other hoof, the fact that the sideplot was heavily based on Lulamoon's own plans for a sequel, and was written by her close friend and confidant J. Thunderlane Hurricane Jr, came as a consolation to many.



* UglyCute: Shudder. Well, she ''is'' a diamond dog.

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* UglyCute: UglyCute:
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Shudder. Well, she ''is'' a diamond dog.



* ValuesDissonance: While Daring Do takes care to showcase multiple species as both heroes and villains, it's still a bit of a shock for ponies to read about things such as the Unicorn Supremacy Movement or strained relations in between griffins and ponies. Although it's practically inverted in the case of zebras, who are commonplace in Daring Do and not so common in modern day Equestria. Just ask Zecora of Ponyville.

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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance:
**
While Daring Do takes care to showcase multiple species as both heroes and villains, it's still a bit of a shock for ponies to read about things such as the Unicorn Supremacy Movement or strained relations in between griffins in-between griffons and ponies. Although it's practically inverted in the case of zebras, who are commonplace in Daring Do ''Daring Do'' and not so common in modern day Equestria. Just ask Zecora of Ponyville.



* VillainDecay: Ahuizotl's competence started to decrease before his "death" in "Temple Of Nightmare Moon". When he finally came back, this trope was turned on its head, with him going back to the threat level he originally had and then some.

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* VillainDecay: VillainDecay:
**
Ahuizotl's competence started to decrease before his "death" in "Temple Of ''Temple of Nightmare Moon".Moon''. When he finally came back, this trope was turned on its head, with him going back to the threat level he originally had and then some.



* [[WTHCastingAgency What the Moon, Casting Agency]]: Okay, we knew we wouldn't be getting another actor of the late [[Creator/TonyJay Pony Jay's]] caliber any time soon playing Commandant Rex for the movies, and having an actual Diamond Dog actor helps cut down on the excessive Magic Generated Imagery that ponies have been complaining about lately but... [[Music/DavidBowie David Bowwow]]?
** They did get [[DavidKaye David Haye]] to [[HongKongDub dub over his lines]], though, so fans are more receptive now.

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* [[WTHCastingAgency What the Moon, Casting Agency]]: Agency]]:
**
Okay, we knew we wouldn't be getting another actor of the late [[Creator/TonyJay Pony Jay's]] caliber any time soon playing Commandant Rex for the movies, and having an actual Diamond Dog actor helps cut down on the excessive Magic Generated Imagery that ponies have been complaining about lately but... [[Music/DavidBowie David Bowwow]]?
**
Bowwow]]? They did get [[DavidKaye David Haye]] to [[HongKongDub dub over his lines]], though, so fans are more receptive now.



* [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids What Do You Mean, It's For Foals?]]: Times change and public concepts of what is acceptable for little fillies and colts to read shifts. At the time the books were apparently written, many of the things that would make the series cringe-worthy if it were introduced in modern times didn't cause much concern. Many current adaptations to other media meant for our youth soften or edit out the questionable bits.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Inevitable, given that Princess Celestia appears as a character and speaks directly to the main cast.
** Recently, the return of Princess Luna has caused fresh interest in ''Temple of Nightmare Moon'' and ''Legacy of Nightmare Moon''.
** Canterlot (meaning Princess Luna) has not, yet, given any official response.
** Some Daring Do analysts theorize Hawkwings was a metaphor for the growing distance between griffon and pony (and indeed the growing isolationism of Equestria in general. Nowadays there are towns where the residents wouldn't even recognize most of the foreign populations that are commonly found in these books).

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* [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids What Do You Mean, It's For for Foals?]]: Times change and public concepts of what is acceptable for little fillies and colts to read shifts. At the time the books were apparently written, many of the things that would make the series cringe-worthy if it were introduced in modern times didn't cause much concern. Many current adaptations to other media meant for our youth soften or edit out the questionable bits.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical:
**
Inevitable, given that Princess Celestia appears as a character and speaks directly to the main cast.
** Recently, the return of Princess Luna has caused fresh interest in ''Temple of Nightmare Moon'' and ''Legacy of Nightmare Moon''.
**
Moon''. Canterlot (meaning Princess Luna) has not, yet, given any official response.
** Some Daring Do ''Daring Do'' analysts theorize Hawkwings was a metaphor for the growing distance between griffon and pony (and indeed the growing isolationism of Equestria in general. Nowadays there are towns where the residents wouldn't even recognize most of the foreign populations that are commonly found in these books).



* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Shrine of the Sliver Monkey.''
* TheWoobie: Herpy in ''The Wooden Mask'' and ''Staff of Star Swirl the Bearded''.
** In ''Staff of Star Swirl'' and ''Witch's Circus'' he loses his two oldest friends, to a psychotic baker and one to an energy drain/aging spell respectively.
** In ''Amber of The Smooze'', Desert Rose got a couple of Woobie moments as well.
*** Not to mention Gypsy Bard from the same book.
*** Spur. Dear Celestia, Spur.
** JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler:You ''will'' pity Sweeney Trot, AKA, Benjamin Gaiter.]]
*** And [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Steam Whistle]]]], too.
*** And Fuergott.
*** The Colt of Smooze. From the abuse the Colt Leader suffered at the hands of the dragon who may have been her father, to Charity seeing her unit massacred, to Attic Fan's suffering as a slave, every one of them has a horrible backstory. [[spoiler: Then they get melted by the Smooze and the Assembler takes the remainder apart, alive and fully conscious]]. The worst part? It's called Smooze corruption because the Smooze subverts ponies' wills. [[spoiler: The Assembler disassembled ponies who were alive and awake that were probably brainwashed.]]
** Darrin has his moments, especially when talking about Derring's abandonment. He may act like he doesn't care most of the time, but there are certain moments when it's clear that his sister leaving stung. A ''lot''.
** Kimmy, in ''Never Forgive Me'', where she is tortured into insanity.
*** Then in ''The Crimson Horde, she's just getting her mind back when [[spoiler:she is murdered by her former torturer, now Talonus' latest [[TheDragon trusted lieutenant]]]].
** Serpentine in ''Cloudfall Conspiracy''. It's never made clear just what she's seen during her years of working for Sterling Silver, but she's shown to be very terrified of just the mention of his name.
** Eichelhäher in ''Breathing Weapons'' can be seen as this, having undergone Krahe's experimentation and [[spoiler: essentially become a super-powered zombie]] just to try to stop being exploited by those stronger than her. The kicker? It doesn't even work, and she's still badly mistreated by the rest of the Greifvogel.
** Sebastian Arzt shows strong signs of this.
** Poor Shudder. She's considered ugly by her entire pack, her only relative controls her entire life and later beats her, she becomes the newest target of an insane killer, all this, and she's only a ''puppy''.
** Gristle seems to qualify. We learn in future books (via call backs) that his facial disfigurement wasn't the result of a freak mining accident, but rather an intentional act of violence from Jackhammer because he was showing Shudder how to mine for jewels (thus, potentially ruining his plans.) He spent the next three years doing nothing but sitting in his area of the caves, getting drunk and sleeping his life away.
** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: The extent that Gas Whole abused the Colt Leader is revealed in ''Universal Cracks.''
*** Greyhoof tells Daring about the Cutie Pox plague that wiped out his original home in ''Mirror Pond''. He goes into graphic detail about the horrors that everypony he knew went through. Especially the [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking cannibalistic, drug-addled, foul-tempered, sex-crazy, abusive, serial murdering, multilingual, opera singing gourmet chef]] that used to be his father.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''Shrine of the Sliver Monkey.''
Monkey''
* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
**
Herpy in ''The Wooden Mask'' and ''Staff of Star Swirl the Bearded''.
** *** In ''Staff of Star Swirl'' and ''Witch's Circus'' he loses his two oldest friends, to a psychotic baker and one to an energy drain/aging spell respectively.
** *** In ''Amber of The Smooze'', Desert Rose got a couple of Woobie moments as well.
*** ** Not to mention Gypsy Bard from the same book.
*** ** Spur. Dear Celestia, Spur.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
** JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler:You ''will'' pity Sweeney Trot, AKA, Benjamin Gaiter.]]
*** And [[spoiler:[[MadScientist Steam Whistle]]]], too.
*** And Fuergott.
*** The Colt of Smooze. From the abuse the Colt Leader suffered at the hands of the dragon who may have been her father, to Charity seeing her unit massacred, to Attic Fan's suffering as a slave, every one of them has a horrible backstory. [[spoiler: Then they get melted by the Smooze and the Assembler takes the remainder apart, alive and fully conscious]]. The worst part? It's called Smooze corruption because the Smooze subverts ponies' wills. [[spoiler: The Assembler disassembled ponies who were alive and awake that were probably brainwashed.]]
** Darrin has his moments, especially when talking about Derring's abandonment. He may act like he doesn't care most of the time, but there are certain moments when it's clear that his sister leaving stung. A ''lot''.
** Kimmy, in ''Never Forgive Me'', where she is tortured into insanity.
*** Then in ''The Crimson Horde, she's just getting her mind back when [[spoiler:she is murdered by her former torturer, now Talonus' latest [[TheDragon trusted lieutenant]]]].
** Serpentine in ''Cloudfall Conspiracy''. It's never made clear just what she's seen during her years of working for Sterling Silver, but she's shown to be very terrified of just the mention of his name.
** Eichelhäher in ''Breathing Weapons'' can be seen as this, having undergone Krahe's experimentation and [[spoiler: essentially become a super-powered zombie]] just to try to stop being exploited by those stronger than her. The kicker? It doesn't even work, and she's still badly mistreated by the rest of the Greifvogel.
** Sebastian Arzt shows strong signs of this.
** Poor Shudder. She's considered ugly by her entire pack, her only relative controls her entire life and later beats her, she becomes the newest target of an insane killer, all this, and she's only a ''puppy''.
** Gristle seems to qualify. We learn in future books (via call backs) that his facial disfigurement wasn't the result of a freak mining accident, but rather an intentional act of violence from Jackhammer because he was showing Shudder how to mine for jewels (thus, potentially ruining his plans.) He spent the next three years doing nothing but sitting in his area of the caves, getting drunk and sleeping his life away.
** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds:
The extent that Gas Whole abused the Colt Leader is revealed in ''Universal Cracks.''
*** ** Greyhoof tells Daring about the Cutie Pox plague that wiped out his original home in ''Mirror Pond''. He goes into graphic detail about the horrors that everypony he knew went through. Especially the [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking cannibalistic, drug-addled, foul-tempered, sex-crazy, abusive, serial murdering, multilingual, opera singing gourmet chef]] that used to be his father.
father.
18th Jul '16 7:18:42 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* InNameOnly : The second radio adaption of "Quest for The Sapphire Stone". Among other things, Ahuizotl is now a griffon, and the Sapphire Stone [[TheyJustDidntCare is a sword.]] The only things it seems to share in common with the actual book is the protagonist.

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* InNameOnly : The second radio adaption of "Quest for The Sapphire Stone". Among other things, Ahuizotl is now a griffon, and the Sapphire Stone [[TheyJustDidntCare is a sword.]] sword. The only things it seems to share in common with the actual book is the protagonist.
13th Jul '16 6:47:23 PM Anddrix
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** BaseBreaker: The fans can't seem to agree, either.
15th Jun '16 6:53:09 PM nombretomado
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** The [[TelltaleGames Telltail Games]] adaptation mostly [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames averts it]], thanks to well done AdaptationExpansion (especially in ''Sapphire Stone''), though some fans saw the first season's games as [[ItsShortSoItSucks short]] and [[ItsEasySoItSucks unchallenging]]. Telltail have promised that these aspects will be improved in the second season.

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** The [[TelltaleGames [[Creator/TelltaleGames Telltail Games]] adaptation mostly [[SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames averts it]], thanks to well done AdaptationExpansion (especially in ''Sapphire Stone''), though some fans saw the first season's games as [[ItsShortSoItSucks short]] and [[ItsEasySoItSucks unchallenging]]. Telltail have promised that these aspects will be improved in the second season.
4th May '16 8:43:50 PM nombretomado
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* [[WTHCastingAgency What the Moon, Casting Agency]]: Okay, we knew we wouldn't be getting another actor of the late [[Creator/TonyJay Pony Jay's]] caliber any time soon playing Commandant Rex for the movies, and having an actual Diamond Dog actor helps cut down on the excessive Magic Generated Imagery that ponies have been complaining about lately but... [[DavidBowie David Bowwow]]?

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* [[WTHCastingAgency What the Moon, Casting Agency]]: Okay, we knew we wouldn't be getting another actor of the late [[Creator/TonyJay Pony Jay's]] caliber any time soon playing Commandant Rex for the movies, and having an actual Diamond Dog actor helps cut down on the excessive Magic Generated Imagery that ponies have been complaining about lately but... [[DavidBowie [[Music/DavidBowie David Bowwow]]?
29th Apr '16 8:35:39 PM Angeldeb82
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* AcceptablePoliticalTargets: The Hoofstapo are a BroadStrokes distillation of the infamous [[ThoseWackyNazis Buckzi]] movement of Germaney during [[WorldWarII Horse War II.]] While some attempts to [[NoSwastikas remove any]] [[GodwinsLaw offending details]] have been made, the fact that they are an exclusively unicorn-favouring group has not gone unnoticed.

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* AcceptablePoliticalTargets: The Hoofstapo are a BroadStrokes distillation of the infamous [[ThoseWackyNazis Buckzi]] movement of Germaney during [[WorldWarII [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Horse War II.]] II]]. While some attempts to [[NoSwastikas remove any]] [[GodwinsLaw offending details]] have been made, the fact that they are an exclusively unicorn-favouring group has not gone unnoticed.



* AwesomeMusic: Shortly after the release of, ''Breathing Weapons'', a CD of character themes for Daring, Arzt, and the Greifvögel was released. It consisted of mostly of electronic and industrial tunes by artists like DJ P0N3, Zer0 Divide, and Genom Screams/Sweet Psy

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Shortly after the release of, ''Breathing Weapons'', a CD of character themes for Daring, Arzt, and the Greifvögel was released. It consisted of mostly of electronic and industrial tunes by artists like DJ P0N3, Zer0 Divide, and Genom Screams/Sweet Psy



*** and it's ending theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC11dtgijrk rain of sorrow]]

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*** and it's And its ending theme, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC11dtgijrk rain of sorrow]]



** Most of the collaborative fanworks by two ponies with the pen names [=MagicSpark=] and Rainboom20% are praised for this as well. Except for Rainboom20%'s infamous story "[[DarkFic Diamonds]]", in which Herpy [[spoiler: goes nuts and does [[NightmareFuel horr]][[ColdBloodedTorture ible]] ''[[KillTheCutie hor]][[MoralEventHorizon rible]]'' things to Daring in his basement]] [[note]] It was the first fan fiction to receive the "'''Grimdark as BUCK'''" rating on Derring Do Daily]][[/note]]. Fortunately, she admits that it was just a TrollFic and apologized after [=MagicSpark=] forced her to.

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** Most of the collaborative fanworks by two ponies with the pen names [=MagicSpark=] and Rainboom20% are praised for this as well. Except for Rainboom20%'s infamous story "[[DarkFic Diamonds]]", "{{D|arkFic}}iamonds", in which Herpy [[spoiler: goes nuts and does [[NightmareFuel horr]][[ColdBloodedTorture ible]] ''[[KillTheCutie hor]][[MoralEventHorizon rible]]'' things to Daring in his basement]] [[note]] It was the first fan fiction to receive the "'''Grimdark as BUCK'''" rating on Derring Do Daily]][[/note]]. Fortunately, she admits that it was just a TrollFic and apologized after [=MagicSpark=] forced her to.



*** And when the [[WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum Guardians of the Storyline]] tackled the fic, the dénouement with Daring and Herpy restored to their proper characterizations is a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.

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*** And when the [[WebOriginal/ProtectorsOfThePlotContinuum Guardians of the Storyline]] tackled the fic, the dénouement with Daring and Herpy restored to their proper characterizations is a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}.



** Well known cosplayer [=BerryshinePuncher=] has gotten a lot of praise for her well written shipping fanfics, though once she typed up an entire [[YaoiFangirl Bravado/Herpy fic]] ''while drunk'' and shared it on Dochan for a [[CrowningMomentOfFunny good laugh with the fandom]], typos and all!

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** Well known cosplayer [=BerryshinePuncher=] has gotten a lot of praise for her well written shipping fanfics, though once she typed up an entire [[YaoiFangirl Bravado/Herpy fic]] ''while drunk'' and shared it on Dochan for a [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments good laugh with the fandom]], typos and all!



** The [[{{Series/Firefly}} universe with the cast]] InSpace from ''Universal Cracks'' was so well-received, there are now fans lobbying to have it turned into a full-length book.

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** The [[{{Series/Firefly}} universe with the cast]] InSpace [[RecycledINSPACE In Space]] from ''Universal Cracks'' was so well-received, there are now fans lobbying to have it turned into a full-length book.



*** Some small but notable parts of the fanbase just [[TakingAThirdOption take a third option]] [[CrackPairing and]] [[IncestYayShipping hook up]] Daring with [[BrotherSisterIncest Darrin]] or [[LesYay Derring]]. Or [[OneTrueThreesome both]]. The Freudian implications are astounding.

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*** Some small but notable parts of the fanbase just [[TakingAThirdOption take a third option]] TakeAThirdOption [[CrackPairing and]] [[IncestYayShipping hook up]] Daring with [[BrotherSisterIncest Darrin]] or [[LesYay [[HoYay Derring]]. Or [[OneTrueThreesome both]]. The Freudian implications are astounding.



** For ExpandedUniverse readers: Krastos. He's either the most awesome thing ever, or an obnoxious, [[SpotLightStealingSquad spotlight stealing]] VillainSue.

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** For ExpandedUniverse readers: Krastos. He's either the most awesome thing ever, or an obnoxious, [[SpotLightStealingSquad spotlight stealing]] VillainSue.obnoxious,{{spotlight stealing|Squad}} Villain Sue.



** Fans can't decide whether or not [[Creator/ShiaLaBeouf Shia LaBuck]] was the best choice to play Herpy, or the worst.

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** Fans can't decide whether or not [[Creator/ShiaLaBeouf Shia LaBuck]] Creator/{{Shia LaB|eouf}}uck was the best choice to play Herpy, or the worst.



** The Blood Diamond series is a bold and gritty revolution and the future of any other new Daring do spin-offs, or it's a grotesque defilement of the previous canon that sweeps everyone but the title character under the rug. [[TakeAThirdOption The other interpretation]] is that it's just a grim orginal story with its own merit, but with a popular icon brought in to ascertain some degree of commercial success in case the original story by itself was too much for the public to handle.

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** The Blood Diamond series is a bold and gritty revolution and the future of any other new Daring do spin-offs, or it's a grotesque defilement of the previous canon that sweeps everyone but the title character under the rug. [[TakeAThirdOption The other interpretation]] is that it's just a grim orginal original story with its own merit, but with a popular icon brought in to ascertain some degree of commercial success in case the original story by itself was too much for the public to handle.



** The ''Breathing Weapons'' sequel, ''Chemical Sister'' is [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]]. Seriously dark. So dark that half the fanbase went into an uproar, claiming Gospel was taking something bright and adventurous and [[FanDumb turning it into something sick and twisted for her own satisfaction]]. Thankfully, the outrage quieted down upon the second sequel, ''Oathkeepers'', which, while still dealing with dark subject matter, was [[LighterAndSofter significantly more light-hearted]].

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** The ''Breathing Weapons'' sequel, ''Chemical Sister'' is [[DarkerAndEdgier dark]].{{dark|erAndEdgier}}. Seriously dark. So dark that half the fanbase went into an uproar, claiming Gospel was taking something bright and adventurous and [[FanDumb turning it into something sick and twisted for her own satisfaction]]. Thankfully, the outrage quieted down upon the second sequel, ''Oathkeepers'', which, while still dealing with dark subject matter, was [[LighterAndSofter significantly more light-hearted]].



** We can't forget Daring and her [[NiceHat hat]]. [[MemeticMutation They have a history]]!

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** We can't forget Daring and her [[NiceHat hat]]. [[MemeticMutation They have a history]]!history!]]



* CrazyAwesome: Krastos. Among other moments, he rides a ''teleporting tricycle'' to Chineigh and then uses magic glue to turn into a minotaur. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer No, really]].

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* CrazyAwesome: Krastos. Among other moments, he rides a ''teleporting tricycle'' to Chineigh and then uses magic glue to turn into a minotaur. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer No, really]].really.]]
18th Feb '16 11:22:54 PM Ominae
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** Caitlin Stirrup got some of this when she was cast as Outback Jack in ''Daring Do and the Wooden Mask'', thanks to her experience at the time being limited to a [[AustralianTelevisionShows Brumbilander]] [[{{Neighbours}} soap opera]]. While her inexperience shows through on occasion, most critics and fans acknowledged that [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct she has talent]], usually pointing to her scenes opposite Summer Billet as Desert Rose.

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** Caitlin Stirrup got some of this when she was cast as Outback Jack in ''Daring Do and the Wooden Mask'', thanks to her experience at the time being limited to a [[AustralianTelevisionShows [[AustralianSeries Brumbilander]] [[{{Neighbours}} soap opera]]. While her inexperience shows through on occasion, most critics and fans acknowledged that [[SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct she has talent]], usually pointing to her scenes opposite Summer Billet as Desert Rose.
6th Jan '16 9:37:22 AM MugenKagemaru
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** It's generally a bad idea to bring up "[[{{Scandalgate}} Heart-Turn-Gate]]" after all the drama that was caused. Poor Ms. Heartstrings...
19th Dec '15 6:04:12 PM nombretomado
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** Fans can't decide whether or not [[ShiaLaBeouf Shia LaBuck]] was the best choice to play Herpy, or the worst.

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** Fans can't decide whether or not [[ShiaLaBeouf [[Creator/ShiaLaBeouf Shia LaBuck]] was the best choice to play Herpy, or the worst.
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