History YMMV / Daria

19th Jun '16 10:36:06 AM MagBas
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* UnfortunateImplications: The show is about teenagers students who don't feel like they fit in at school due to different interests from the norm. Did the writers of "Is it Fall yet?" think none of their fans would mind that the first and only non-heterosexual character would be a DepravedBisexual and hypocritical GoldDigger who's actions probably constitute attempted date-rape? Especially after portraying Upchuck and Tommy Sherman as merely annoying and rude respectively.
9th May '16 7:50:00 PM Chal
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** Tom's potentially ending the relationship between Daria and Jane, and effectively sealing the fate of the flirtation between Daria and Trent Lane, caused Tom to be a very controversial character and his portrayls are all over the map. The fact that what Tom represented shifted during the course of the ''show'' leads to him coming off as very different in works written before the show ended, and his status as hero, villain, or neither are entirely based on where the author fell during the show's run. And that's just regarding his relationship to Daria, which was largely his only storyline in the entire show.

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** Tom's potentially ending the relationship between Daria and Jane, and effectively sealing the fate of the flirtation between Daria and Trent Lane, caused Tom to be a very controversial character and his portrayls portrayals are all over the map. The fact that what Tom represented shifted during the course of the ''show'' leads to him coming off as very different in works written before the show ended, and his status as hero, villain, or neither are entirely based on where the author fell during the show's run. And that's just regarding his relationship to Daria, which was largely his only storyline in the entire show.



* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While sticking to your personal morales and refusing to take part in a corrupt system is admirable, doing so will also usually make things in life much more difficult. Daria (and once, Jane) would tell several people with questionable ethics off, or quit a project that went against her morales only to have nothing to show for it afterwards (and sometimes, even be punished for it). At least twice they even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade this]], in Jane's case quitting the track team they point out while Jane refused to take part in a corrupt school athletic system, she also did nothing to try and change said system and both Daria and Jane were punished by the gym teacher for it, and in a later episode after Daria says she had to quit the school yearbook for 'morale reasons' Helen just sighs and says "again?"

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: While sticking to your personal morales morals and refusing to take part in a corrupt system is admirable, doing so will also usually make things in life much more difficult. Daria (and once, Jane) would tell several people with questionable ethics off, or quit a project that went against her morales morals only to have nothing to show for it afterwards (and sometimes, even be punished for it). At least twice they even [[LampshadeHanging lampshade this]], in Jane's case quitting the track team they point out while Jane refused to take part in a corrupt school athletic system, she also did nothing to try and change said system and both Daria and Jane were punished by the gym teacher for it, and in a later episode after Daria says she had to quit the school yearbook for 'morale 'moral reasons' Helen just sighs and says "again?"



** Way back in the first episode "Esteemsters" there's a throwaway gag about Daria's parents acting upset that their daughter apparently had low self-esteem, because they 'always tell her how wonderful she is, damnit!' This becomes much harsher when the final regular episode "Boxing Daria" aired, and showed the reason Daria's parents were so initially upset was because Daria used to have quite a problem with her attitude in school, so much so Jake and Helen actually had a rather heated argument over it, and were probably afraid it was happening again.

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** Way back in the first episode "Esteemsters" there's a throwaway gag about Daria's parents acting upset that their daughter apparently had low self-esteem, because they 'always tell her how wonderful she is, damnit!' dammit!' This becomes much harsher when the final regular episode "Boxing Daria" aired, and showed the reason Daria's parents were so initially upset was because Daria used to have quite a problem with her attitude in school, so much so Jake and Helen actually had a rather heated argument over it, and were probably afraid it was happening again.



* YokoOhNo: Tom Sloan. He starts dating Jane near the end of season 3, but his growing attraction to Daria causes a serious rift between the two girls, who, up until then, were [[HeterosexualLifePartners inseperable]] for most of the show. This fact is not lost on Daria, and when she and Tom kiss each other it almost ruins their friendship.

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* YokoOhNo: Tom Sloan. He starts dating Jane near the end of season 3, but his growing attraction to Daria causes a serious rift between the two girls, who, up until then, were [[HeterosexualLifePartners inseperable]] inseparable]] for most of the show. This fact is not lost on Daria, and when she and Tom kiss each other it almost ruins their friendship.
6th May '16 9:18:19 PM SarcasmKid
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** Quinn dressed in black from "Quinn the Brain" is frequently posted on tumblr.
21st Apr '16 3:06:31 PM lloyd22
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%%* UnfortunateImplications: The show is about teenagers students who don't feel like they fit in at school due to different interests from the norm. Did the writers of "Is it Fall yet?" think none of their fans would mind that the first and only non-heterosexual character would be a DepravedBisexual and hypocritical GoldDigger who's actions probably constitute attempted date-rape? Especially after portraying Upchuck and Tommy Sherman as merely annoying and rude respectively.

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%%* * UnfortunateImplications: The show is about teenagers students who don't feel like they fit in at school due to different interests from the norm. Did the writers of "Is it Fall yet?" think none of their fans would mind that the first and only non-heterosexual character would be a DepravedBisexual and hypocritical GoldDigger who's actions probably constitute attempted date-rape? Especially after portraying Upchuck and Tommy Sherman as merely annoying and rude respectively.respectively.
* VanillaProtagonist: Daria has her witty, sarcastic remarks while sustaining her dispassionate expression while lacking the quirks of the other characters on the show.
21st Apr '16 11:53:39 AM overman2099
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* WhatTheHellHero: Generally, there are a lot of characters who deserve Daria's snark. However, during "Life in the Past Lane," Daria really goes overboard on harping on Jane's new date, Nathan, a retro guy who's really into the 1950s. Even though Nathan is only showing an interest in the culture, music, and style of the 50s, Daria decided to rain on his parade repeatedly by telling him just how racist and sexist the 50s were. And even after Nathan acknowledges Daria's criticisms and admits that his favorite era had its flaws and social inequalities, what does Daria do? ''She continues to snark at him and annoy him'' to the point where Nathan, quite justifiably, decides that he would really rather have as little to do with Daria as possible. Granted Nathan was eventually revealed to be a bit of an obsessive jerk towards the end of the episode but Daria's JerkAss behavior towards him before then was still completely uncalled for.

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* WhatTheHellHero: Generally, there are a lot of characters who deserve Daria's snark. However, during "Life in the Past Lane," Daria really goes overboard on harping on Jane's new date, Nathan, a retro guy who's really into the 1950s. 1940s. Even though Nathan is only showing an interest in the culture, music, and style of the 50s, 40s, Daria decided to rain on his parade repeatedly by telling him just how racist and sexist conformist the 50s 40s were. And even after Nathan acknowledges Daria's criticisms and admits that his favorite era had its flaws and social inequalities, what does Daria do? ''She continues to snark at him and annoy him'' to the point where Nathan, quite justifiably, decides that he would really rather have as little to do with Daria as possible. Granted Nathan was eventually revealed to be a bit of an obsessive jerk towards the end of the episode but Daria's JerkAss behavior towards him before then was still completely uncalled for.
20th Apr '16 10:54:49 PM overman2099
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* WhatTheHellHero: Generally, there are a lot of characters who deserve Daria's snark. However, during "Life in the Past Lane," Daria really goes overboard on harping on Jane's new date, Nathan, a retro guy who's really into the 1950s. Even though Nathan is only showing an interest in the culture, music, and style of the 50s, Daria decided to rain on his parade repeatedly by telling him just how racist and sexist the 50s were. And even after Nathan acknowledges Daria's criticisms and admits that his favorite era had its flaws and social inequalities, what does Daria do? ''She continues to snark at him and annoy him'' to the point where Nathan, quite justifiably, decides that he would really rather have as little to do with Daria as possible. Granted Nathan was eventually revealed to be a bit of an obsessive jerk towards the end of the episode but Daria's JerkAss behavior towards him before then was still completely uncalled for.
13th Feb '16 3:14:54 PM Scabbard
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** Helen Morgendorffer is the breadwinner of the family, and she's shown as being ''incredibly'' out of touch with her family (Though more in touch than [[CloudCuckoolander Jake]]) and microwaves frozen lasagna for the family to eat every night. Jake meanwhile is often the one who is shown cooking and acting like the traditional mother, and likewise has quite a few quirks.

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** Helen Morgendorffer is the breadwinner of the family, and she's shown as being ''incredibly'' out of touch with her family (Though (though more in touch than [[CloudCuckoolander Jake]]) and microwaves frozen lasagna for the family to eat every night. Jake meanwhile is often the one who is shown cooking and acting like the traditional mother, and likewise has quite a few quirks.
24th Jan '16 7:27:45 PM creader
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* BaseBreaker: Daria herself. Some admire her as the ideal role model due to her intelligence and attitude, while others see her as a clearly flawed but still well rounded character. Then there are those who find her an all around self-righteous hypocrite.

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Daria herself. Some admire her as the ideal role model due to her intelligence and attitude, while others see her as a clearly flawed but still well rounded character. Then there are those who find her an all around self-righteous hypocrite.



* RecycledScript: "Fair Enough", "Just Add Water", and -- to a lesser extent, "Anti-Social Climbers" are just "The Daria Hunter" at a school-run Renaissance fair, a dingy casino cruise, and in the woods. There are some changes, but the following gags/scenes are the same for most or all the episodes:
** "The Daria Hunter", "Fair Enough", and "Just Add Water" had Miss Barch making out with Mr. O'Neill ("Anti-Social Climbers" had a FullyAutomaticClipShow of the three times Barch and O'Neill made out when Ms. Barch thinks back to when she vowed never to pull another man's weight again).
** "The Daria Hunter" and "Just Add Water" both had scenes of Jake and Helen fighting near the end of the episode.
** "The Daria Hunter" and "Just Add Water" had scenes where it's established that Ms. Li and Helen hate each other.
** "The Daria Hunter" and "Anti-Social Climbers" took place during a field trip in the woods.
** "The Daria Hunter", "Just Add Water", and "Fair Enough" had Daria and Jane trying to get out of whatever social function they were in (Daria and Jane skipped the paintballing trip to go to the Great White Shark museum in "The Daria Hunter", Daria and Jane were trying to get some sleep after staying up all night watching a marathon of ''"Sick Sad World"'' on "Just Add Water"; and Daria and Jane tried to run from Upchuck by getting on a Ferris wheel, only to end up sharing the ride with a sobbing Stacy in "Fair Enough").
** "The Daria Hunter" and "Anti-Social Climbers" ended with someone getting left behind (Sandi after she finally found a hidden bathroom and Jake and Helen after Ms. Li took their distributor cap in "The Daria Hunter", and Kevin got lost before finding Mr. O'Neill in "Anti-Social Climbers").
** "Fair Enough" and "Just Add Water" both end with Kevin and Brittany stranded somewhere (Brittany continues driving despite that she is miles away from the school in "Fair Enough", while Kevin and Brittany are stuck on the casino cruise's only lifeboat in "Just Add Water").
** "The Daria Hunter" and "Just Add Water" had scenes with Jake and Mr. [=DeMartino=] together (though in "Just Add Water", Jake doesn't remember Mr. [=DeMartino=] as the guy who shared his flask of whiskey with him and traded stories about their {{Hilariously Abusive Childhood}}s.
10th Nov '15 4:47:41 AM Anddrix
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* DudeNotFunny: Jake's issues with his father are PlayedForLaughs, and the zaniness of his character is considered off-putting due to the more grounded nature of the show. However, a lot of viewers come from abusive households themselves and can understand how difficult it is to move on from traumatic memories. That being said, Jake's ongoing strife with his childhood and no one really taking his problems as serious as they should be, as well as that he could really use some good therapy, becomes less funny and more tragic.
27th Oct '15 6:18:16 AM SarcasmKid
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** Jake, while not reaching status of TheScrappy, has a fair share of detractors who thought his BumblingDad personality didn't mix right with the rest of the show's structure, while others consider him sympathetic if not somewhat entertaining.


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* DudeNotFunny: Jake's issues with his father are PlayedForLaughs, and the zaniness of his character is considered off-putting due to the more grounded nature of the show. However, a lot of viewers come from abusive households themselves and can understand how difficult it is to move on from traumatic memories. That being said, Jake's ongoing strife with his childhood and no one really taking his problems as serious as they should be, as well as that he could really use some good therapy, becomes less funny and more tragic.
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