History YMMV / DareDevil

19th Aug '16 10:05:21 AM cwf123
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** In fact, both movies have improved versions on DVD.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Whatever the film's faults, it does do something rare for a comic book film in that, unlike Spider-man and the X-Men, it can make you forget you're watching a comic book adaption. Some scenes feel like they're from a different film (in the best possible sense). It's only when Bullseye shows up it starts to slip (it's not easy to make a realistic film involving a man who can go on killing sprees with paper clips and peanuts). Since other films, most notably [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Christopher Nolan's Batman films]] and the eventual ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' Netflix series, have done this more successfully, Daredevil is unlikely to get credit for trying it first.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Whatever the film's faults, it does do something rare for a comic book film in that, unlike Spider-man Spider-Man and the X-Men, it can make you forget you're watching a comic book adaption. Some scenes feel like they're from a different film (in the best possible sense). It's only when Bullseye shows up it starts to slip (it's not easy to make a realistic film involving a man who can go on killing sprees with paper clips and peanuts). Since other films, most notably [[Film/TheDarkKnightSaga Christopher Nolan's Batman films]] and the eventual ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'' Netflix series, have done this more successfully, Daredevil is unlikely to get credit for trying it first.
8th Jul '16 5:09:31 PM ClintRider
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** Mark Waid's run may go down as the most controversial ''Daredevil'' run since Ann Nocenti- while it was well received critically and seen as a breath of fresh air for Matt, many longtime Daredevil fans ''loathed'' the changes Waid made- in particular Matt's more snarky, flippant attitude that suited the Flash more than Daredevil, Matt's complete disregard for his secret identity, the Foggy subplot, and, most contentiously of all, ''the pimp suit'' Matt wore as a costume for much of the run after ditching his usual gear.

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** Mark Waid's run may go down as the most controversial ''Daredevil'' run since Ann Nocenti- while it was well received critically and seen as a breath of fresh air for Matt, many longtime Daredevil fans ''loathed'' the changes Waid made- in particular Matt's more snarky, flippant attitude that suited the Flash more than Daredevil, Matt becoming a BoringInvincibleHero who was never really challenged throughout most of his run, the absolutely joke that was the Serpent Society, Matt's complete disregard for his secret identity, the Foggy subplot, and, most contentiously of all, ''the pimp suit'' Matt wore as a costume for much of the run after ditching his usual gear.
8th Jul '16 3:41:40 PM ClintRider
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* BrokenBase: The post-Secret Wars Daredevil series: Fans might be happy that in the new series Matt is reinstated as a lawyer in New York, Foggy's cancer is seemingly cured, and his civilian identity a secret once more but since it comes from a CosmicRetcon, it feels more than a little contrived...
** Not to mention fans of the LighterAndSofter run of the series were disappointed to see a return to a DarkerAndEdgier tone, uprooting a relatively stable life for Matt in exchange for more tragedy and brooding.
*** The addition of a sidekick for Daredevil was initially a controversial decision, but Blindspot has proven to be a popular character.
* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} has fought several abhorrent monsters, but a few have gone the extra mile

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* BrokenBase: The post-Secret Wars Daredevil series: Fans might be happy BrokenBase:
** Soule's run: Many fans were overjoyed at the announcement
that in the new series Matt is was reinstated as a lawyer in New York, Foggy's cancer is was seemingly cured, and his civilian identity was a secret once more more, but since thanks to it comes from being a CosmicRetcon, consequence of ''Secret Wars,'' some fans felt it feels more than reeked a little contrived...
bit of the Reset Button being used.
** Not to mention fans of the LighterAndSofter run of the series were disappointed to see a return to a DarkerAndEdgier tone, uprooting a relatively stable life for Matt in exchange for more tragedy and brooding. However, many other fans detested the lighter attitude and relished the chance to see Matt return to his noir roots.
** The addition of a sidekick for Daredevil was initially a controversial decision, but Blindspot has proven to be a surprisingly popular character.
** Mark Waid's run may go down as the most controversial ''Daredevil'' run since Ann Nocenti- while it was well received critically and seen as a breath of fresh air for Matt, many longtime Daredevil fans ''loathed'' the changes Waid made- in particular Matt's more snarky, flippant attitude that suited the Flash more than Daredevil, Matt's complete disregard for his secret identity, the Foggy subplot, and, most contentiously of all, ''the pimp suit'' Matt wore as a costume for much of the run after ditching his usual gear.

*** The addition of a sidekick for Daredevil was initially a controversial decision, but Blindspot has proven to be a popular character.
* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/{{Daredevil}} has fought several abhorrent monsters, but a few have gone the extra milemile.



* CriticalDissonance: Waid's run was well received critically, but was met with a more mixed reception commercially, this showed as the run at times struggled to maintain higher sales than runs before him such as Bendis and was rarely on the Top 50.



* GrowingTheBeard: Under Creator/FrankMiller.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Under Creator/FrankMiller. After several years of authors trying to capture the spark Miller had, Brian Michael Bendis is seen as being behind the beard re-growing. Time will tell if Soule's run marks a third regrowth.



* MagnificentBastard: Under Mark Waid's pen, Matt himself has slowly became one. For starters, he beats five of the most feared organizations in the Marvel U to get the Omegadrive, a device that has the location and names of everyone involved in the aforementioned organizations, providing enough evidence to take them down ''completely'', warning them that if any of them come after him or his family he'll take the info to SHIELD and wipe them off the face of the world. Neither can go after him without either facing this threat or making themselves a target to the other organization, their only solution is to work together, something none of them are capable of doing. When Black Spectre breaks rank and goes after it, he acts on his threat, utterly destroying them.

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* MagnificentBastard: Under Mark Waid's pen, Matt himself has slowly became one. For starters, he beats five of the most feared organizations in the Marvel U Universe to get the Omegadrive, a device that has the location and names of everyone involved in the aforementioned organizations, providing enough evidence to take them down ''completely'', warning them that if any of them come after him or his family he'll take the info to SHIELD and wipe them off the face of the world. Neither can go after him without either facing this threat or making themselves a target to the other organization, their only solution is to work together, something none of them are capable of doing. When Black Spectre breaks rank and goes after it, he acts on his threat, utterly destroying them.



** Charles Soule continues the tradition, with Matt abusing his blindness in a high stakes poker game to play evenly with a telepath hired by the casino to win the tournament. Despite having ''no idea'' what's on his cards, he uses his other senses to see what the other players are thinking, and uses this to win thousands of dollars... that he is unable to cash out because he used a fake identity to enter the competition.



* ToughActToFollow: Denny O'Neil's run. O'Neil was Frank Miller's direct successor and he just didn't connect with readers the way Miller did. To be fair, Miller had, at that point, basically defined the book, so whoever followed him was probably going to come up short.
** Ann Nocenti's run. She was the second person to succeed Miller and Miller had basically stripped Daredevil of many of his defining elements, such as his licence to practice law. Fortunately she was able to work wonders by pushing the book in a drastically different and unique direction with [[OutsideContextProblem atypical villains]] for the series and exploring different themes.

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* ToughActToFollow: ToughActToFollow:
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Denny O'Neil's run. O'Neil was Frank Miller's direct successor and he just didn't connect with readers the way Miller did. To be fair, Miller had, at that point, basically defined the book, so whoever followed him was probably going to come up short.
** Ann Nocenti's run. She was the second person to succeed Miller and Miller had basically stripped Daredevil of many of his defining elements, such as his licence to practice law. Fortunately she was able to work wonders by pushing the book in a drastically different and unique direction with [[OutsideContextProblem atypical villains]] for the series and exploring different themes. Her handling of Typhoid Mary in particular is seen as a highlight of the run.



* ValuesDissonance: Now that we have {{Action Girl}}s aplenty in all kinds of entertainment, it's pretty weird to see Matt be so utterly mystified at the concept of a woman who knows martial arts. Though, its very likely that Matt wasn't so much amazed that a girl could fight so much as he was that ''anyone'' could fight as well as she did, given how well she did during their fight.

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* ValuesDissonance: Now that we have {{Action Girl}}s aplenty in all kinds of entertainment, it's pretty weird to see Matt be so utterly mystified at the concept of a woman who knows martial arts.arts when he meets Elektra. Though, its very likely that Matt wasn't so much amazed that a girl could fight so much as he was that ''anyone'' could fight as well as she did, given how well she did during their fight.
4th Jul '16 7:14:02 PM Discar
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** Ann Nocenti's run. She was the second person to succeed Miller and Miller had basically stripped Daredevil of many of his defining elements, such as his licence to practice law. Fortunately she was able to work wonders by pushing the book in a drastically different and unique direction with [[OutsideContextVillain atypical villains]] for the series and exploring different themes.

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** Ann Nocenti's run. She was the second person to succeed Miller and Miller had basically stripped Daredevil of many of his defining elements, such as his licence to practice law. Fortunately she was able to work wonders by pushing the book in a drastically different and unique direction with [[OutsideContextVillain [[OutsideContextProblem atypical villains]] for the series and exploring different themes.
9th May '16 12:15:00 AM Faberlich
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9th May '16 12:14:46 AM Faberlich
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9th May '16 12:13:22 AM Faberlich
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** Creator/JonFavreau acting in a movie based from a Marvel Comic, years before he would go onto direct ''Film/IronMan''

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** Creator/JonFavreau acting in a movie based from a Marvel Comic, years before he would go onto on to direct ''Film/IronMan''two ''Film/IronMan'' films and play Harold "Happy" Hogan in them.
9th May '16 12:11:43 AM Faberlich
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--->'''Affleck''': "By playing a superhero in Daredevil, I have inoculated myself from ever playing another superhero... Wearing a costume was a source of humiliation for me and something I wouldn't want to do again soon."

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--->'''Affleck''': --->'''Affleck:''' "By playing a superhero in Daredevil, I have inoculated myself from ever playing another superhero... Wearing a costume was a source of humiliation for me and something I wouldn't want to do again soon."


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--->'''WebVideo/HonestTrailers:''' So, settle in, for what's basically Ben Affleck's really disappointing audition to be the next Batman!
23rd Apr '16 8:07:44 PM Migaman55
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* BrokenBase: ** The post-Secret Wars Daredevil series: Fans might be happy that in the new series Matt is reinstated as a lawyer in New York, Foggy's cancer is seemingly cured, and his civilian identity a secret once more but since it comes from a CosmicRetcon, it feels more than a little contrived...

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* BrokenBase: ** BrokenBase: The post-Secret Wars Daredevil series: Fans might be happy that in the new series Matt is reinstated as a lawyer in New York, Foggy's cancer is seemingly cured, and his civilian identity a secret once more but since it comes from a CosmicRetcon, it feels more than a little contrived...
23rd Apr '16 8:07:11 PM Migaman55
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* BrokenBase:
* The post-Secret Wars Daredevil series: Fans might be happy that in the new series Matt is reinstated as a lawyer in New York, Foggy's cancer is seemingly cured, and his civilian identity a secret once more but since it comes from a CosmicRetcon, it feels more than a little contrived...

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* BrokenBase:
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BrokenBase: ** The post-Secret Wars Daredevil series: Fans might be happy that in the new series Matt is reinstated as a lawyer in New York, Foggy's cancer is seemingly cured, and his civilian identity a secret once more but since it comes from a CosmicRetcon, it feels more than a little contrived...
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