History YMMV / DareDevil

7th Apr '17 12:36:53 PM ACW
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** [[MadArtist Muse]] is a deranged SerialKiller obsessed with sharing his "vision" of beauty with the whole world. First kidnapping over 100 innocent people, Muse strings them up and constantly drains them of their blood, leaving them near-death, and uses said blood to paint a giant mural in a public location. Later, after murdering close to a dozen [[ComicBook/TheInhumans Inhumans]] and posing their bodies, Muse kidnaps 4 people and plans to [[ColdBloodedTorture torture them to death]], starting by [[EarAche lopping off one's ear]], then captures Daredevil's sidekick, Blindspot, whose [[EyeScream eyes he gouges out]] as a sick play on the young teen's name. Muse's lair is a nightmarish museum of depravity and agony, as it displays piles of skulls, heads on pikes, butchered corpses, and removed organs hanging from strings, all gathered throughout his months of murdering civilians. In the end, Muse tries to fatally wound his hundred blood-drained captives to distract Daredevil while he makes his escape, and, even when caught, refuses to show regret, empathy, or guilt for what his atrocities, displaying nothing by gleeful passion at how "artistic" his story has turned out to be.

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** [[MadArtist Muse]] is a deranged SerialKiller obsessed with sharing his "vision" of beauty with the whole world. First kidnapping over 100 innocent people, Muse strings them up and constantly drains them of their blood, leaving them near-death, and uses said blood to paint a giant mural in a public location. Later, after murdering close to a dozen [[ComicBook/TheInhumans Inhumans]] and posing their bodies, Muse kidnaps 4 people and plans to [[ColdBloodedTorture torture them to death]], starting by [[EarAche lopping off one's ear]], then captures Daredevil's sidekick, Blindspot, whose [[EyeScream eyes he gouges out]] as a sick play on the young teen's name. Muse's lair is a nightmarish museum of depravity and agony, as it displays piles of skulls, heads on pikes, butchered corpses, and removed organs hanging from strings, all gathered throughout his months of murdering civilians. In the end, Muse tries to fatally wound his hundred blood-drained captives to distract Daredevil while he makes his escape, and, even when caught, refuses to show regret, empathy, or guilt for what his atrocities, displaying nothing by but gleeful passion at how "artistic" his story has turned out to be.
7th Apr '17 9:49:05 AM Silverblade2
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** Purple Man (aka Zebediah Killgrave) might not have the most intimidating moniker, but he more than makes up for it with what he does. During his first outing he took control of Matt's girlfriend, Karen Page, and tried to rape her. He's only gotten worse since. Later on, revamped by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis in his series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' into an amoral sociopath, Killgrave defeated the young superheroine Jessica Jones and made her his mental slave, forcing her to watch him commit crimes and assist him, while he heaped physical, verbal and mental abuse on her, but stopped short of outright rape because she "wasn't worthy" of him. Not content with humiliating her, he forced her to watch him do things like mentally order people to stop breathing when it annoyed him. He forced Jessica to stand at his bedside and watch as he used his powers to [[SerialRapist date rape women]], helpless to do anything about it. Killgrave is what happens when you give someone who thinks ItsAllAboutMe is a code to live by, remove any empathy for other beings, and give them mind control powers and a serious desire to hurt others. And then he was adapted to the screen in ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', where David Tennant's portrayal of the character is the stuff of nightmares.

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** Purple Man (aka Zebediah Killgrave) might not have the most intimidating moniker, but he more than makes up for it with what he does. During his first outing he took control of Matt's girlfriend, Karen Page, and tried to rape her. He's only gotten worse since. Later on, revamped by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis in his series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' into an amoral sociopath, Killgrave defeated the young superheroine Jessica Jones and made her his mental slave, forcing her to watch him commit crimes and assist him, while he heaped physical, verbal and mental abuse on her, but stopped short of outright rape because she "wasn't worthy" of him. Not content with humiliating her, he forced her to watch him do things like mentally order people to stop breathing when it annoyed him. He forced Jessica to stand at his bedside and watch as he used his powers to [[SerialRapist date rape women]], helpless to do anything about it. Killgrave is what happens when you give someone who thinks ItsAllAboutMe is a code to live by, remove any empathy for other beings, and give them mind control powers and a serious desire to hurt others. And then he was adapted to the screen in ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', where David Tennant's portrayal of the character is the stuff of nightmares.
5th Mar '17 5:11:05 PM Eldritcho
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* GrowingTheBeard: Under Creator/FrankMiller. After several years of authors trying to capture the spark Miller had, Creator/BrianMichaelBendis is seen as being behind the beard re-growing. Time will tell if Soule's run marks a third regrowth.

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* GrowingTheBeard: Under Creator/FrankMiller. After several years of authors trying to capture the spark Miller had, Creator/BrianMichaelBendis is seen as being behind the beard re-growing. Time will tell if Soule's run marks re-growing during the TurnOfTheMillennium, following a third regrowth.string of bad stories in TheNineties.
5th Mar '17 5:05:30 PM Eldritcho
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* DorkAge: The title has arguably suffered through a few of these, but the tail end of the Silver Age is particularly hard to defend. The creators lost track of the original intent to make Daredevil DarkerAndEdgier than Spider-Man. Matt was the biggest quipster in the Marvel Universe behind Spidey, and the charmingly-cute irreverence of a teenager felt grossly inappropriate coming from a grown man. The weakness of his rogue's gallery and the recurrence of absurd plots (like Matt's impersonation of his swingin' hep cat brother Mike to conceal his secret identity) also made it difficult to respect the book.
** The early [[TheNineties '90's]] run. Matt gets a new ridiculously DarkerAndEdgier costume, complete with metal shoulder pads and arm spikes, grows a five-o'clock shadow, and generally acts like a jerk to everyone for little to no reason. Throw in some terrible story arc's, like "The Iron Devil", and you get a period that most Daredevil fans would rather forget.

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* DorkAge: The title has arguably suffered through a few of these, but the these.
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tail end of the Silver Age is particularly hard to defend. The creators lost track of the original intent Daredevil, a character known for being a more down to make Daredevil DarkerAndEdgier than Spider-Man. Matt earth and grittier superhero, was the biggest quipster in the Marvel Universe behind Spidey, Spidey during this period, and the charmingly-cute irreverence of a teenager felt grossly inappropriate coming from a grown man. The weakness of his rogue's gallery and the recurrence of absurd plots (like Matt's impersonation of his swingin' hep cat brother Mike to conceal his secret identity) also made it difficult to respect the book.
** The early [[TheNineties '90's]] run.is another widely panned period. Matt gets a new ridiculously DarkerAndEdgier costume, complete with metal shoulder pads and arm spikes, grows a five-o'clock shadow, and generally acts like a jerk to everyone for little to no reason. Throw in some terrible story arc's, like "The Iron Devil", and you get a period that most Daredevil fans would rather forget.
5th Mar '17 1:20:14 PM bt8257
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* ToughActToFollow: With the death of Creator/MichaelClarkDuncan, the producers of the {{Netflix}} [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} show]] likely decided that there was no point trying to find other qualified actor as big as him to be the next version of Wilson Fisk and decided to cast Creator/VincentDOnofrio in the part. [[AbilityOverAppearance Thankfully, D'Onofrio turned in a performance that was even more layered and complex than the film's version]].

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* ToughActToFollow: With the death of Creator/MichaelClarkDuncan, Creator/MichaelClarkeDuncan, the producers of the {{Netflix}} [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} show]] likely decided that there was no point trying to find other qualified actor as big as him to be the next version of Wilson Fisk and decided to cast Creator/VincentDOnofrio in the part. [[AbilityOverAppearance Thankfully, D'Onofrio turned in a performance that was even more layered and complex than the film's version]].
28th Feb '17 2:22:16 PM b3900
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* CultClassic: Thanks to the director's cut, this movie now has a cult fanbase who see this as one of Marvel's most underrated movies and that it really needs a sequel.

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* CultClassic: Thanks to the director's cut, this movie now has a cult fanbase who see this as one of Marvel's most underrated movies and that it really needs should have received a sequel.



** HarsherInHindsight: They're divorcing now, following multiple allegations of Affleck's cheating, gambling and other assorted problems.

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** HarsherInHindsight: They're divorcing They have divorced now, following multiple allegations of Affleck's cheating, gambling and other assorted problems.
27th Feb '17 9:59:20 PM dmcreif
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* ToughActToFollow: With the death of Creator/MichaelClarkDuncan, the producers of the {{Netflix}} [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} series version]] likely decided that there was no point trying to find other qualified actor as big as him to be the Kingpin and decided to cast Creator/VincentDOnofrio in the part. [[AbilityOverAppearance Thankfully, D'Onofrio turned in a performance that was even more layered and complex than even the film's version]].

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* ToughActToFollow: With the death of Creator/MichaelClarkDuncan, the producers of the {{Netflix}} [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} series version]] show]] likely decided that there was no point trying to find other qualified actor as big as him to be the Kingpin next version of Wilson Fisk and decided to cast Creator/VincentDOnofrio in the part. [[AbilityOverAppearance Thankfully, D'Onofrio turned in a performance that was even more layered and complex than even the film's version]].
27th Feb '17 9:58:19 PM dmcreif
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-->[[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic "Oh, no, he has a cane! All I can do is just stand here and take it, I guess!"]]



* ToughActToFollow: With the death of Creator/MichaelClarkDuncan, the producers of the {{Netflix}} [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} series version]] likely decided that there was no point trying to find other qualified actor as big as him to be the Kingpin and decided to cast Creator/VincentDOnofrio to play Wilson another way. [[AbilityOverAppearance Thankfully, D'Onofrio turned in a performance that won almost everyone over]].

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* ToughActToFollow: With the death of Creator/MichaelClarkDuncan, the producers of the {{Netflix}} [[Series/{{Daredevil 2015}} series version]] likely decided that there was no point trying to find other qualified actor as big as him to be the Kingpin and decided to cast Creator/VincentDOnofrio to play Wilson another way. in the part. [[AbilityOverAppearance Thankfully, D'Onofrio turned in a performance that won almost everyone over]].was even more layered and complex than even the film's version]].
27th Feb '17 9:55:53 PM dmcreif
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** Purple Man (aka Zebediah Killgrave) might not have the most intimidating moniker, but he more than makes up for it with what he does. During his first outing he took control of Matt's girlfriend, Karen Page, and tried to rape her. He's only gotten worse since. Later on, revamped by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis in his series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' into an amoral sociopath, Killgrave defeated the young superheroine Jessica Jones and made her his mental slave, forcing her to watch him commit crimes and assist him, while he heaped physical, verbal and mental abuse on her, but stopped short of outright rape because she "wasn't worthy" of him. Not content with humiliating her, he forced her to watch him do things like mentally order people to stop breathing when it annoyed him. He forced Jessica to stand at his bedside and watch as he used his powers to [[SerialRapist date rape women]], helpless to do anything about it. Killgrave is what happens when you give someone who thinks ItsAllAboutMe is a code to live by, remove any empathy for other beings, and give them mind control powers and a serious desire to hurt others.

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** Purple Man (aka Zebediah Killgrave) might not have the most intimidating moniker, but he more than makes up for it with what he does. During his first outing he took control of Matt's girlfriend, Karen Page, and tried to rape her. He's only gotten worse since. Later on, revamped by Creator/BrianMichaelBendis in his series ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' into an amoral sociopath, Killgrave defeated the young superheroine Jessica Jones and made her his mental slave, forcing her to watch him commit crimes and assist him, while he heaped physical, verbal and mental abuse on her, but stopped short of outright rape because she "wasn't worthy" of him. Not content with humiliating her, he forced her to watch him do things like mentally order people to stop breathing when it annoyed him. He forced Jessica to stand at his bedside and watch as he used his powers to [[SerialRapist date rape women]], helpless to do anything about it. Killgrave is what happens when you give someone who thinks ItsAllAboutMe is a code to live by, remove any empathy for other beings, and give them mind control powers and a serious desire to hurt others. And then he was adapted to the screen in ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', where David Tennant's portrayal of the character is the stuff of nightmares.
20th Feb '17 12:41:56 AM marcoasalazarm
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The Marvel Universe prides itself on making its heroes' lives hell, but Matt Murdock's life goes above and beyond the call of duty in terms of YankTheDogsChain and {{Wangst}} (to make a long story short: there are ''very'' powerful people that wish Matt and Kingpin to kill each other, and are willing to do ''anything'' to make it happen), and the times when it becomes LighterAndSofter are short-lived and marked with a very brutal return to "normal". It takes some die-hard fanaticism to keep watching after a while.



** Matt. He can have some seriously nasty bouts of "IWorkAlone" {{Wangst}}, but after all the hell that has happened to anybody who so much as gives him the time of day, it's hard not to blame him.



* MemeticLoser: Matt. Look down on "Memetic Mutation" to see why.



* StoicWoobie: Matt. As mentioned, his life is hell but he'll pretty much never wangst about it.

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* StoicWoobie: Matt. As mentioned, his life is hell but he'll pretty much never wangst about it.it (publicly).
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