History YMMV / CyranoDeBergerac

25th Jul '16 3:55:04 PM nombretomado
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* WhatAnIdiot: CyranoDeBergerac, an ImpoverishedPatrician StarvingArtist, unknown yet talented playwright, is offered the Patronage of Cardinal Richelieu, the most powerful man in all France, and turns it down.

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* WhatAnIdiot: CyranoDeBergerac, Cyrano de Bergerac, an ImpoverishedPatrician StarvingArtist, unknown yet talented playwright, is offered the Patronage of Cardinal Richelieu, the most powerful man in all France, and turns it down.
22nd May '16 4:08:26 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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* MartyStu: Actually a subversion. Cyrano IS a CowardlyLion and has issues confessing to Roxanne.
17th Aug '15 6:36:19 AM phoenix
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* JerkassWoobie: Cyrano is a JerkAss, but his MommyIssues and his [[MartyrdomCulture upbringing]] make him sympathetic.

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* JerkassWoobie: Cyrano is a JerkAss, but his MommyIssues FreudianExcuse and his [[MartyrdomCulture upbringing]] make him sympathetic.
2nd Feb '14 1:52:59 PM Naryar
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* CrazyAwesome: Cyrano.

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* AwesomeEgo: Cyrano
* CrazyAwesome: Cyrano. And how!


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* MartyStu: Actually a subversion. Cyrano IS a CowardlyLion and has issues confessing to Roxanne.
16th Jul '13 8:50:42 PM CJCroen1393
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* CrazyAwesome: Cyrano.
12th Nov '11 12:59:51 PM OldManHoOh
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* JerkassWoobie: Cyrano is a JerkAss, but his MommyIssues and his [[MartyrdomCulture upbringing]] make him sympathetic.* TearJerker: Let's just say the last scene and have done with it.

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* DesignatedVillain: Count de Guiche.
* JerkassWoobie: Cyrano is a JerkAss, but his MommyIssues and his [[MartyrdomCulture upbringing]] make him sympathetic.sympathetic.
* TearJerker: Let's just say the last scene and have done with it.
14th Jul '11 9:42:03 PM Lale
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* JerkassWoobie: Cyrano is a JerkAss, but his MommyIssues and his [[MartyrdomCulture upbringing]] make his sympathetic. His attitude with the [[SmittenTeenageGirl Buffet-girl]],[[ButtMonkey Raguenau]] and the [[NobleProfession nuns]] show us he is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. His attitude with anyone who is not [[OfThePeople a Gascon]] show us he is definitely a JerkAss, and the universe of the play is [[HumiliationConga constantly placing him in unpleasant situations]]. In Act I Scene V he reveals to his best friend Le Bret a hidden, softer side talking about how he feels he never will be love by Roxane because his enormous nose:
--> '''Le Bret:''' Well, but so much the better! Tell her so!
--> She saw your triumph here this very night!
--> '''Cyrano:''' Look well at me—then tell me, with what hope
--> This vile protuberance can inspire my heart!
--> I do not lull me with illusions—yet
--> At times I'm weak: in evening hours dim
--> I enter some fair pleasance, perfumed sweet;
--> With my poor ugly devil of a nose
--> I scent spring's essence—in the silver rays
--> I see some knight—a lady on his arm,
--> And think 'To saunter thus 'neath the moonshine,
--> I were fain to have my lady, too, beside!'
--> Thought soars to ecstasy. . .O sudden fall!
--> — The shadow of my profile on the wall!
--> '''Le Bret:''' ''(tenderly):'' My friend!...
--> '''Cyrano:''' My friend, at times 'tis hard, 'tis bitter,
--> To feel my loneliness—my own ill-favor...
* TearJerker: Let's just say the last scene and have done with it.
** "Yes, Roxane."
* WhatAnIdiot: CyranoDeBergerac, an ImpoverishedPatrician StarvingArtist, unknown yet talented playwright, is offered the Patronage of [[MagnificentBastard Cardenal Richelieu]], [[ManBehindTheMan The most powerful man in all France]] and [[RenaissanceMan known playwright]], who will only [[ExecutiveMeddling ''edit one or two verses'']] of [[NewMeat Cyrano’s unproduced play]], ''"Agrippine"''.
** '''You’d Expect:''' A serious, talented StarvingArtist who [[NewMeat has never been represented in scene]] [[PayingTheirDues will recognize this as a golden opportunity and be tolerant of a]] [[ManBehindTheMan powerful]] Mecenas [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney with a lot of money]] [[RenaissanceMan who really has experience with playwriting]] [[ExecutiveMeddling and whom really]] [[TropesAreNotBad could improve]] ''"Agrippine"''.
** '''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieu’s patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris it’s like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting DoctorDoom’s patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting LexLuthor’s patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.
** '''However:''' Cyrano is a SmallNameBigEgo MartyrWithoutACause who wants to be TheLastDJ and just some minutes ago [[HeartBrokenBadass has discovered that Roxane, his loved one, is in love with someone else]].

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* JerkassWoobie: Cyrano is a JerkAss, but his MommyIssues and his [[MartyrdomCulture upbringing]] make his sympathetic. His attitude with the [[SmittenTeenageGirl Buffet-girl]],[[ButtMonkey Raguenau]] and the [[NobleProfession nuns]] show us he is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. His attitude with anyone who is not [[OfThePeople a Gascon]] show us he is definitely a JerkAss, and the universe of the play is [[HumiliationConga constantly placing him in unpleasant situations]]. In Act I Scene V he reveals to his best friend Le Bret a hidden, softer side talking about how he feels he never will be love by Roxane because his enormous nose:
--> '''Le Bret:''' Well, but so much the better! Tell her so!
--> She saw your triumph here this very night!
--> '''Cyrano:''' Look well at me—then tell me, with what hope
--> This vile protuberance can inspire my heart!
--> I do not lull me with illusions—yet
--> At times I'm weak: in evening hours dim
--> I enter some fair pleasance, perfumed sweet;
--> With my poor ugly devil of a nose
--> I scent spring's essence—in the silver rays
--> I see some knight—a lady on his arm,
--> And think 'To saunter thus 'neath the moonshine,
--> I were fain to have my lady, too, beside!'
--> Thought soars to ecstasy. . .O sudden fall!
--> — The shadow of my profile on the wall!
--> '''Le Bret:''' ''(tenderly):'' My friend!...
--> '''Cyrano:''' My friend, at times 'tis hard, 'tis bitter,
--> To feel my loneliness—my own ill-favor...
sympathetic.* TearJerker: Let's just say the last scene and have done with it.
** "Yes, Roxane."
* WhatAnIdiot: CyranoDeBergerac, an ImpoverishedPatrician StarvingArtist, unknown yet talented playwright, is offered the Patronage of [[MagnificentBastard Cardenal Richelieu]], [[ManBehindTheMan The Cardinal Richelieu, the most powerful man in all France]] France, and [[RenaissanceMan known playwright]], who will only [[ExecutiveMeddling ''edit one or two verses'']] of [[NewMeat Cyrano’s unproduced play]], ''"Agrippine"''.
** '''You’d Expect:''' A serious, talented StarvingArtist who [[NewMeat has never been represented in scene]] [[PayingTheirDues will recognize this as a golden opportunity and be tolerant of a]] [[ManBehindTheMan powerful]] Mecenas [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney with a lot of money]] [[RenaissanceMan who really has experience with playwriting]] [[ExecutiveMeddling and whom really]] [[TropesAreNotBad could improve]] ''"Agrippine"''.
** '''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieu’s patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris it’s like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting DoctorDoom’s patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting LexLuthor’s patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.
** '''However:''' Cyrano is a SmallNameBigEgo MartyrWithoutACause who wants to be TheLastDJ and just some minutes ago [[HeartBrokenBadass has discovered that Roxane, his loved one, is in love with someone else]].
turns it down.
14th Jul '11 8:35:22 AM amartinez2000
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* WhatAnIdiot: CyranoDeBergerac, an ImpoverishedPatrician StarvingArtist, unknown yet talented playwright, is offered the Patronage of [[MagnificentBastard Cardenal Richelieu]], [[ManBehindTheMan The most powerful man in all France]] and [[RenaissanceMan known playwright]], who will only [[ExecutiveMeddling ''edit one or two verses'']] of [[NewMeat Cyrano’s unproduced play]], ''"Agrippine"''.
** '''You’d Expect:''' A serious, talented StarvingArtist who [[NewMeat has never been represented in scene]] [[PayingTheirDues will recognize this as a golden opportunity and be tolerant of a]] [[ManBehindTheMan powerful]] Mecenas [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney with a lot of money]] [[RenaissanceMan who really has experience with playwriting]] [[ExecutiveMeddling and whom really]] [[TropesAreNotBad could improve]] ''"Agrippine"''.
** '''Instead:''' [[SmallNameBigEgo Cyrano arrogantly]] invokes ProtectionFromEditors and [[UngratefulBastard nastily rejects the patronage]]. To put things in perspective, rejecting Cardenal Richelieu’s patronage in TheCavalierYears Paris it’s like someone in MarvelUniverse rejecting DoctorDoom’s patronage, or someone in DCUniverse rejecting LexLuthor’s patronage ''when he was PresidentEvil of the United States''.
** '''However:''' Cyrano is a SmallNameBigEgo MartyrWithoutACause who wants to be TheLastDJ and just some minutes ago [[HeartBrokenBadass has discovered that Roxane, his loved one, is in love with someone else]].
26th Mar '11 6:24:43 PM amartinez2000
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* JerkassWoobie: Cyrano is a JerkAss, but his MommyIssues and his [[MartyrdomCulture upbringing]] make his sympathetic. His attitude with the [[SmittenTeenageGirl Buffet-girl]],[[ButtMonkey Raguenau]] and the [[NobleProfession nuns]] show us he is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold. His attitude with anyone who is not [[OfThePeople a Gascon]] show us he is definitely a JerkAss, and the universe of the play is [[HumiliationConga constantly placing him in unpleasant situations]]. In Act I Scene V he reveals to his best friend Le Bret a hidden, softer side talking about how he feels he never will be love by Roxane because his enormous nose:
--> '''Le Bret:''' Well, but so much the better! Tell her so!
--> She saw your triumph here this very night!
--> '''Cyrano:''' Look well at me—then tell me, with what hope
--> This vile protuberance can inspire my heart!
--> I do not lull me with illusions—yet
--> At times I'm weak: in evening hours dim
--> I enter some fair pleasance, perfumed sweet;
--> With my poor ugly devil of a nose
--> I scent spring's essence—in the silver rays
--> I see some knight—a lady on his arm,
--> And think 'To saunter thus 'neath the moonshine,
--> I were fain to have my lady, too, beside!'
--> Thought soars to ecstasy. . .O sudden fall!
--> — The shadow of my profile on the wall!
--> '''Le Bret:''' ''(tenderly):'' My friend!...
--> '''Cyrano:''' My friend, at times 'tis hard, 'tis bitter,
--> To feel my loneliness—my own ill-favor...
11th Feb '11 8:01:27 PM CaitsMeow
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* TheAce: Two examples:
** Roxane: She is [[SoBeautifulItsACurse extremely beautiful]], witty and eloquent, [[GuileHero capable of manipulate De Guiche, the friar, and all the officials of the Spanish Army to get into the battlefield]], and a mistress of the XanatosSpeedChess. Her only real defect could be her obsession with external beauty and [[ManHands demanding perfection in her suitors]], but even that was overcame at Act IV, so she is not a BrokenAce… her problem is, two of his three suitors are so intimidated by her own awesomeness that they decide to create…
** [[spoiler: The Hero of Romance]]: A ShadowArchetype created blending Christian’s beauty and Cyrano’s eloquence, that includes only positives things because Christian and Cyrano believe that ‘’’it’s’’’ the only one who has a chance to be paired with Roxane.
* LargeHam: Depardieu as Cyrano in TheMovie.


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* {{Woolseyism}}: Brian Hooker's translation, which finds appropriate equivalent literary references in English for all the French references of the original text. Anthony Burgess was inspired by Hooker to use the same approach.
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