History YMMV / Cyclops

3rd Mar '16 6:34:33 PM Ramona122003
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* CreatorsPet: {{Inverted}} in stories by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as ComicBook/XForce and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
3rd Mar '16 6:12:39 PM Ramona122003
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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as ComicBook/XForce and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
13th Dec '15 8:03:16 PM nombretomado
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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.

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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} ComicBook/XForce and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
3rd Nov '15 10:48:41 PM steelhawk98
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** [[spoiler:Meta-wise this will now be the case no matter what happens in ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''. You'd think the writers would see their failed first attempt as a sign that maybe Cyclops doesn't work as a villain and they should something NOT stupid.]]

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** [[spoiler:Meta-wise this will now be the case no matter what happens in ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''. You'd think the writers would see their failed first attempt as a sign that maybe Cyclops doesn't work as a villain and they should do something NOT stupid.]]
28th Oct '15 3:51:35 AM steelhawk98
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** [[spoiler:Meta-wise this will now be the case no matter what happens in ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''. You'd think the writers would see their failed first attempt as a sign that maybe Cyclops doesn't work as a villain and they should something NOT stupid.]]
12th Oct '15 12:33:58 PM marcoasalazarm
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** [[spoiler:The announcement that he's essentially responsible for about 50% of the bad situation that is affecting mutant kind on the ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' line (the other 50% is Terigen Mists being now lethal to mutants, but ''they'' didn't pissed off humanity back to "Kill All Mutants" mode) have many people wanting the X-Men to find him so they can lynch him, and others wish to at least wait until he's found so he can give his defense... although they are still angry at the writers for turning his extremism into yet ''another'' case of YankTheDogsChain for mutantkind.]]
12th Oct '15 12:29:22 PM marcoasalazarm
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** [[spoiler:Time will tell where he lands once he's found on the ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''.]]
3rd Oct '15 12:58:57 PM strejda
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** [[SayMyName JEAAN!!!]]
9th Sep '15 9:09:12 AM StFan
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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.

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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''BattleOfTheAtom'', ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
16th Aug '15 5:22:21 PM KingClark
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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in AVX, Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.

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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in AVX, [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: While Big Scott still counts as a BaseBreaker despite his large increase in popularity since AvX, Young Scott's status as TheCutie and a BadassAdorable has managed to win around a large number of people to his side, even, strangely, a contingent of people who hate on his older self. The fact that his solo is amazingly drawn and written possibly helps too.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: While Big Scott still counts as a BaseBreaker despite his large increase in popularity since AvX, [=AvX=], Young Scott's status as TheCutie and a BadassAdorable has managed to win around a large number of people to his side, even, strangely, a contingent of people who hate on his older self. The fact that his solo is amazingly drawn and written possibly helps too.



* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: While Cyke was always more of a BaseBreaker than a Scrappy, Post-AVX, he seems to have shot up in popularity, possibly usurping Wolverine (Going by recent sales, ''Uncanny'', Scott's book, has nearly double the sales ''WATXM'' has, though that might be due to BrianBendis writing and its lower issue count (Wolvie's series was in the 40s before relaunching). Due to the DesignatedVillain treatment he got and is still getting, combined with his genuine attempts at helping people and apparently being the only one bothering to reach out and help any of the newly awakened mutants, and the fact he's the only one who tries to suggest peace rather than tossing insults and fighting whenever he runs into the people who currently dislike him, despite it being ''them'' we're apparently supposed to root for. Notably, when Cyclops popped up in ''WATXM'' to help Wolverine fight off sentinels, fans actually cheered Cyclops on and called for him to JustShootHim now that Wolverine's without his HealingFactor since Wolverine was being such a huge dick to him (which he did literally the second after Scott saved his life).

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: While Cyke was always more of a BaseBreaker than a Scrappy, Post-AVX, Post-[=AvX=], he seems to have shot up in popularity, possibly usurping Wolverine (Going by recent sales, ''Uncanny'', Scott's book, has nearly double the sales ''WATXM'' has, though that might be due to BrianBendis writing and its lower issue count (Wolvie's - Wolvie's series was in the 40s before relaunching). Due to the DesignatedVillain treatment he got and is still getting, combined with his genuine attempts at helping people and apparently being the only one bothering to reach out and help any of the newly awakened mutants, and the fact he's the only one who tries to suggest peace rather than tossing insults and fighting whenever he runs into the people who currently dislike him, despite it being ''them'' we're apparently supposed to root for. Notably, when Cyclops popped up in ''WATXM'' to help Wolverine fight off sentinels, fans actually cheered Cyclops on and called for him to JustShootHim now that Wolverine's without his HealingFactor since Wolverine was being such a huge dick to him (which he did literally the second after Scott saved his life).
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