History YMMV / Cyclops

5th May '16 11:19:35 PM ablackraptor
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** In the ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' phase of X-Men and Inhumans book, Cyclops is thought to be dead, but before that did ''something'' that has made people hate mutants again. Fans however have a hard time holding it against him since we don't know ''what'' exactly it is that he did, as they constantly avoid details beyond it has ''something'' to do with the Inhumans and the Terrigen Mists killing mutants (which, in fairness, hardly makes him the badguy, or at least any worse than Black Bolt). What doesn't help matters is that Teen!Cyke goes on a tangent about his older self's guilt, but what he claims about him prior to the relaunch don't actually line-up with what ''actually happened'' (such as claiming he was 'getting worse' when he'd actually been getting better over the course of Bendis' run), indicating that whatever Scott ''did'' do is probably not as bad as what they're claiming.
3rd Mar '16 6:34:33 PM Ramona122003
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* CreatorsPet: {{Inverted}} in stories by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as ComicBook/XForce and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
3rd Mar '16 6:12:39 PM Ramona122003
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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as ComicBook/XForce and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
13th Dec '15 8:03:16 PM nombretomado
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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.

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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} ComicBook/XForce and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
3rd Nov '15 10:48:41 PM steelhawk98
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** [[spoiler:Meta-wise this will now be the case no matter what happens in ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''. You'd think the writers would see their failed first attempt as a sign that maybe Cyclops doesn't work as a villain and they should something NOT stupid.]]

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** [[spoiler:Meta-wise this will now be the case no matter what happens in ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''. You'd think the writers would see their failed first attempt as a sign that maybe Cyclops doesn't work as a villain and they should do something NOT stupid.]]
28th Oct '15 3:51:35 AM steelhawk98
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** [[spoiler:Meta-wise this will now be the case no matter what happens in ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''. You'd think the writers would see their failed first attempt as a sign that maybe Cyclops doesn't work as a villain and they should something NOT stupid.]]
12th Oct '15 12:33:58 PM marcoasalazarm
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** [[spoiler:The announcement that he's essentially responsible for about 50% of the bad situation that is affecting mutant kind on the ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' line (the other 50% is Terigen Mists being now lethal to mutants, but ''they'' didn't pissed off humanity back to "Kill All Mutants" mode) have many people wanting the X-Men to find him so they can lynch him, and others wish to at least wait until he's found so he can give his defense... although they are still angry at the writers for turning his extremism into yet ''another'' case of YankTheDogsChain for mutantkind.]]
12th Oct '15 12:29:22 PM marcoasalazarm
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** [[spoiler:Time will tell where he lands once he's found on the ''AllNewAllDifferentMarvel''.]]
3rd Oct '15 12:58:57 PM strejda
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** [[SayMyName JEAAN!!!]]
9th Sep '15 9:09:12 AM StFan
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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.

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* CreatorsPet: Played straight when written by Matt Fraction, who many feel made his run pretty much a love-letter to him. Inverted, however, by Craig Kyle and Jason Aaron. With Kyle, in some of the works with is writing partner Chris Yost (such as {{X-Force}} and ''WesternAnimation/WolverineAndTheXMen''), Cyclops tends to be incompetent, moody, and generally unlikeable, but whenever Chrs Yost handles him by himself, and even some works with Kyle, Cyke tends to be much more balanced and likeable, making it apparent this is Kyle (similar with the level of violence too; whenever Kyle is involved, Yost's work is much more bloody and violent). Meanwhile, with Jason Aaron, he's penned two big storylines (''Schism'' and ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'') involving Cyclops, both of which involve Wolverine (and in [=AvX=], Captain America) giving Cyclops a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech after he crosses what is supposedly the MoralEventHorizon, with the end being Cyclops left with a large group of his former team, and the superhero community in general, hating his guts. Meanwhile, in his contributions to ''BattleOfTheAtom'', ''ComicBook/BattleOfTheAtom'', both Wolverine and Storm spend notable moments reminding him and the viewer that they don't like him and think he's crossed the line, without explaining why. With Kyle its arguable to say this since its only really bad in WATXM, but Aaron, at this point its pretty clear he seems to enjoy having characters hate him.
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