History YMMV / CourtneyLove

20th Aug '17 6:08:51 PM HasturHasturHastur
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* MisBlamed: While she certainly has done herself no favors over the years, a lot of the Yoko Ono-esque hatemongering and finger-pointing is frankly unfounded. The fact of the matter is that Cobain was already deeply depressed, suicidal, self-medicating (allegedly for the pain from a stomach condition that he never got diagnosed or sought proper treatment for), and generally dramatically self-destructive, and he was already very far down the road to ruin by the time they seriously started talking. She certainly did not help early on, but by the end, she was probably one of the few reasons that he hadn't killed himself sooner. It is known that both of them used heroin and other hard drugs together, but she is also on record as having saved him from at least one overdose and also staged an intervention; as a whole, it appears to be a case of her not being immaculate by any means, but also being blamed for plenty of things that Cobain was doing to himself just fine without her.

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* MisBlamed: While she certainly has done herself no favors over the years, a lot of the Yoko Ono-esque hatemongering and finger-pointing regarding her impact on Cobain is frankly unfounded. The fact of the matter is that Cobain was already deeply depressed, suicidal, self-medicating (allegedly for the pain from a stomach condition that he never got diagnosed or sought proper treatment for), and generally dramatically self-destructive, and he was already very far down the road to ruin by the time they seriously started talking. She certainly did not help early on, but by the end, she was probably one of the few reasons that he hadn't killed himself sooner. It is known that both of them used heroin and other hard drugs together, but she is also on record as having saved him from at least one overdose and also staged an intervention; as a whole, it appears to be a case of her not being immaculate by any means, but also being blamed for plenty of things that Cobain was doing to himself just fine without her.
19th Aug '17 6:46:15 PM HasturHasturHastur
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* MisBlamed: While she certainly has done herself no favors over the years, a lot of the Yoko Ono-esque hatemongering and finger-pointing is frankly unfounded. The fact of the matter is that Cobain was already deeply depressed, suicidal, self-medicating (allegedly for the pain from a stomach condition that he never got diagnosed or sought proper treatment for), and generally dramatically self-destructive, and he was already very far down the road to ruin by the time they seriously started talking. She certainly did not help early on, but by the end, she was probably one of the few reasons that he hadn't killed himself sooner. It is known that both of them used heroin and other hard drugs together, but she is also on record as having saved him from at least one overdose and also staged an intervention; as a whole, it appears to be a case of her not being immaculate by any means, but also being blamed for plenty of things that Cobain was doing to himself just find without her.

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* MisBlamed: While she certainly has done herself no favors over the years, a lot of the Yoko Ono-esque hatemongering and finger-pointing is frankly unfounded. The fact of the matter is that Cobain was already deeply depressed, suicidal, self-medicating (allegedly for the pain from a stomach condition that he never got diagnosed or sought proper treatment for), and generally dramatically self-destructive, and he was already very far down the road to ruin by the time they seriously started talking. She certainly did not help early on, but by the end, she was probably one of the few reasons that he hadn't killed himself sooner. It is known that both of them used heroin and other hard drugs together, but she is also on record as having saved him from at least one overdose and also staged an intervention; as a whole, it appears to be a case of her not being immaculate by any means, but also being blamed for plenty of things that Cobain was doing to himself just find fine without her.
19th Aug '17 8:15:32 AM HasturHasturHastur
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* MisBlamed: While she certainly has done herself no favors over the years, a lot of the Yoko Ono-esque hatemongering and finger-pointing is frankly unfounded. The fact of the matter is that Cobain was already deeply depressed, suicidal, self-medicating (allegedly for the pain from a stomach condition that he never got diagnosed or sought proper treatment for), and generally dramatically self-destructive, and he was already very far down the road to ruin by the time they seriously started talking. She certainly did not help early on, but by the end, she was probably one of the few reasons that he hadn't killed himself sooner. It is known that both of them used heroin and other hard drugs together, but she is also on record as having saved him from at least one overdose and also staged an intervention; as a whole, it appears to be a case of her not being immaculate by any means, but also being blamed for plenty of things that Cobain was doing to himself just find without her.
19th Aug '17 7:21:13 AM HasturHasturHastur
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** A frequent source of controversy was the allegation that Cobain either entirely wrote or heavily contributed to ''Music/LiveThroughThis'' (he only added backing vocals and guitar to two songs) -- Love did not help her case by rewriting the lyrics of the Nirvana outtake "Old Age" for ''My Body the Hand Grenade'' and not bothering to explain that it was originally a Nirvana song.

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** A frequent source of controversy was the allegation that Cobain either entirely wrote or heavily contributed to ''Music/LiveThroughThis'' (he only added backing vocals and guitar to two songs) -- Love did not help her case by rewriting the lyrics of the Nirvana outtake "Old Age" for ''My Body the Hand Grenade'' and not bothering to explain that it was originally a Nirvana song. According to her, there's a part of her that would have loved for Cobain to have written something, but she also admitted that pride would have more than likely made her refuse to accept any of his contributions.
23rd Jul '17 2:23:15 PM Malady
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* ImplausibleDeniability: At the Roast of PamelaAnderson, she'd punctuate some of her drunken (or high, it's unclear which) antics with "I've been clean and sober for a ''year''!" No one bought it for a second.

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* ImplausibleDeniability: At the Roast of PamelaAnderson, Creator/PamelaAnderson, she'd punctuate some of her drunken (or high, it's unclear which) antics with "I've been clean and sober for a ''year''!" No one bought it for a second.
20th May '17 7:21:51 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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*** When she gets to the line about Kurt wishing normalcy in his suicide note, she lets out a haunting "Well why didn't you '''fucking stay!?'''".
4th Sep '16 5:21:04 PM lilithmercy
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* EpilepticTrees: While the theory that she murdered Kurt Cobain may count as this, other theorists take it to a whole new level with a [[UsefulNotes/BillClinton Clinton Body Count]]-esque theory suggesting that she is a sociopath responsible for numerous murders all in the name of rising to prominence. Among others, they put responsibility on her for Kurt Cobain (of course) and Hole bassist Kristen Plaff's deaths.

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* EpilepticTrees: While the theory that she murdered Kurt Cobain may count as this, other theorists take it to a whole new level with a [[UsefulNotes/BillClinton Clinton Body Count]]-esque theory suggesting that she is a sociopath responsible for numerous murders all in the name of rising to prominence. Among others, they put responsibility on her for Kurt Cobain (of course) and Hole bassist Kristen Plaff's deaths.Pfaff's deaths.
* HarsherInHindsight: "Miss World" has 2 relating to Kristen Pfaff:
** The line "I've made my bed, I'll die in it" was actually written by Kristen. After Kurt died, Kristen was planning to leave Seattle to stay sober, but sadly relapsed, and died in her sleep of an opiate overdose the day she was intending to move.
** In the music video, there is a close up of Kristen immediately after the line "Kill me, pills".
11th Feb '15 9:22:58 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Despite personal issues, when Love manages to pull it all together she can come up with some great songs. "Boys on the Radio" and "Celebrity Skin" are both high points.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Despite personal issues, when Love manages to pull it all together she can come up with some great songs. "Boys on the Radio" and "Celebrity Skin" are both high points.



* HoYay: In the "Celebrity Skin" era with Melissa Auf der Maur. Ironic given that she never did anything like that with Patty Schemel, who is actually a lesbian.



* LesYay: In the "Celebrity Skin" era with Melissa Auf der Maur. Ironic given that she never did anything like that with Patty Schemel, who is actually a lesbian.
3rd Feb '15 1:53:00 PM FromtheWordsofBR
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Despite personal issues, when Love manages to pull it all together she can come up with some great songs. "Boys on the Radio" is a high point.
* EpilepticTrees:While the theory that she murdered Kurt Cobain may count as this, other theorists take it to a whole new level with a [[UsefulNotes/BillClinton Clinton Body Count]]-esque theory suggesting that she is a sociopath responsible for numerous murders all in the name of rising to prominence. Among others, they put responsibility on her for Kurt Cobain (of course) and Hole bassist Kristen Plaff's deaths.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Despite personal issues, when Love manages to pull it all together she can come up with some great songs. "Boys on the Radio" is a and "Celebrity Skin" are both high point.
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* EpilepticTrees:While EpilepticTrees: While the theory that she murdered Kurt Cobain may count as this, other theorists take it to a whole new level with a [[UsefulNotes/BillClinton Clinton Body Count]]-esque theory suggesting that she is a sociopath responsible for numerous murders all in the name of rising to prominence. Among others, they put responsibility on her for Kurt Cobain (of course) and Hole bassist Kristen Plaff's deaths.



* TearJerker: Quite a few, including "Doll Parts," "Northern Star," and "Letter to God."

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* TearJerker: Quite a few, including "Doll Parts," "Northern Star," "Miss World" and "Letter to God."
3rd Dec '14 3:54:34 PM Patachou
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** A frequent source of controversy was the allegation that Cobain either entirely wrote or heavily contributed to ''Live Through This'' (he only added backing vocals and guitar to two songs) -- Love did not help her case by rewriting the lyrics of the Nirvana outtake "Old Age" for ''My Body the Hand Grenade'' and not bothering to explain that it was originally a Nirvana song.

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** A frequent source of controversy was the allegation that Cobain either entirely wrote or heavily contributed to ''Live Through This'' ''Music/LiveThroughThis'' (he only added backing vocals and guitar to two songs) -- Love did not help her case by rewriting the lyrics of the Nirvana outtake "Old Age" for ''My Body the Hand Grenade'' and not bothering to explain that it was originally a Nirvana song.
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