History YMMV / Constantine

18th Feb '17 7:42:40 PM QueenofSwords
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* TheScrappy: When the pilot was leaked, multiple critics online didn't like Liv, which helped cause her being written out. The AV Club and IGN both felt that Liv's departure was ultimately for the better.

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* TheScrappy: When the pilot was leaked, multiple critics online didn't like Liv, which helped cause her being written out. The AV Club and IGN both felt that Liv's departure was ultimately for the better. Considering that she was replaced by Zed, so did many of the fans.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: It's obvious that the decision of Liv not staying on the show was made very late in production of the pilot, with all the backstory built up for her going to waste. The plot of at least the first season still depends upon her involvement as well, since Constantine is following the markings she left behind on the map. The producers' vagueness about why Liv was cut isn't helping.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: It's obvious that the decision of Liv not staying on the show was made very late in production of the pilot, with all the backstory built up for her going to waste. The plot of at least the first season still depends upon her involvement as well, since Constantine is following the markings she left behind on the map. The producers' vagueness about why Liv was cut isn't helping.
9th Feb '17 5:27:59 AM Nithael
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* SpiritualAdaptation: The movie could be argued as a better adaptation of TheDresdenFiles than Hellblazer.

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* SpiritualAdaptation: The movie could be argued as a better adaptation of TheDresdenFiles ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' than Hellblazer.''Hellblazer''.



* WTHCastingAgency: Dark haired American KeanuReeves as Constantine. Shia [=LeBeouf=] as... well, pretty much anyone might qualify, but playing a character who is normally John's contemporary (Chas) is a bit odd.

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* WTHCastingAgency: Dark haired American KeanuReeves Creator/KeanuReeves as Constantine. Shia [=LeBeouf=] as... well, pretty much anyone might qualify, but playing a character who is normally John's contemporary (Chas) is a bit odd.



* AuthorsSavingThrow: Although the show was canceled despite fan campaigns to save it, it was retconned into being a part of the {{Franchise/Arrowverse}} with John getting a guest appearance in an early episode of ''{{Series/Arrow}}'' season 4.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Although the show was canceled despite fan campaigns to save it, it was retconned into being a part of the {{Franchise/Arrowverse}} Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} with John getting a guest appearance in an early episode of ''{{Series/Arrow}}'' ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' season 4.



* BrokenBase: Pre-release, the show got a rather nasty one after it was said that John would not be bisexual in the show, as the creators deemed it unnecessary to his character. Unfortunately, they also added "And besides, he sleeps with mostly women anyways." While there are some who didn't care (citing how John's romantic partners tend to die in the comics, how he only ever slept with one man in the comics, or that they would judge the show when it came out and not before), a lot of viewers (particularly people who are LGBT themselves, or sympahetic/supportive towards such) were upset at the bi erasure. It doesn't help that bisexuality in particular, especially male bisexuals, are [[NoBisexuals largely ignored in media depictions]], and that LGBT characters in comic books rarely get adaptations, especially ones that retain their LGBT status if they do appear in adaptations. However, David Goyer was quick to note that they never said he wasn't bisexual, and as the series progressed, John was shown to flirt with several male characters.

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* BrokenBase: Pre-release, the show got a rather nasty one after it was said that John would not be bisexual in the show, as the creators deemed it unnecessary to his character. Unfortunately, they also added "And besides, he sleeps with mostly women anyways." While there are some who didn't care (citing how John's romantic partners tend to die in the comics, how he only ever slept with one man in the comics, or that they would judge the show when it came out and not before), a lot of viewers (particularly people who are LGBT themselves, or sympahetic/supportive sympathetic/supportive towards such) were upset at the bi erasure. It doesn't help that bisexuality in particular, especially male bisexuals, are [[NoBisexuals largely ignored in media depictions]], and that LGBT characters in comic books rarely get adaptations, especially ones that retain their LGBT status if they do appear in adaptations. However, David Goyer was quick to note that they never said he wasn't bisexual, and as the series progressed, John was shown to flirt with several male characters.



* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Devil's Vinyl," John uses loud punk music in headphones to drown out the mind-controlling audio that's causing people around him to fight to the death. And he gets the headphones knocked out, forcing him to start fighting. Cut to almost one year exactly after the episode airs, and the finale of [[Series/JessicaJones2015 Jessica Jones]] does all of those same things.

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* HilariousInHindsight: In "The Devil's Vinyl," John uses loud punk music in headphones to drown out the mind-controlling audio that's causing people around him to fight to the death. And he gets the headphones knocked out, forcing him to start fighting. Cut to almost one year exactly after the episode airs, and the finale of [[Series/JessicaJones2015 ''[[Series/JessicaJones2015 Jessica Jones]] Jones]]'' does all of those same things.



* OlderThanTheyThink: Some fans unfamiliar with the comics think Papa Midnite's "Ace of Winchesters" is a reference to Supernatural. In fact it is an artifact created in the comics, specifically as the main plot device between the Hellblazer/Hitman crossover Garth Ennis wrote.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: Some fans unfamiliar with the comics think Papa Midnite's "Ace of Winchesters" is a reference to Supernatural. ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. In fact it is an artifact created in the comics, specifically as the main plot device between the Hellblazer/Hitman ''Hellblazer/Hitman'' crossover Garth Ennis wrote.



** Also, NBC's restriction against explicit smoking though John is famously a chain-smoker. The pilot tries to work around it like by showing only cigarettes being stubbed out.
*** NBC seems to have lightened up when it comes to this, as several episodes have explicitly shown John smoking.

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** Also, NBC's restriction against explicit smoking though John is famously a chain-smoker. The pilot tries to work around it like by showing only cigarettes being stubbed out.
*** NBC seems to have lightened up when it comes to this,
out. Later on this is completely dropped, as several episodes have explicitly shown John smoking.
8th Feb '17 5:50:17 PM ProfessorGrimm
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* CantUnhearIt: Creator/MattRyan has quickly become Constantine's de facto performer due to his charismatic performance. He has reprised his role as Constantine for all of the character's subsequent appearances with the children's series ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueAction'' so being the only exception.
29th Jan '17 4:52:03 PM eaterofworlds
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* SpiritualAdaptation: The movie could be argued as a better adaptation of TheDresdenFiles than Hellblazer.
8th Jan '17 8:23:16 PM WeiWenn
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15th Sep '16 9:07:59 AM Larkmarn
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* VindicatedByHistory: Lambasted by fans and critics alike at release, as time has gone on many movie-goers have come to consider it a pretty decent movie, just not a good ''Hellblazer'' movie.
15th Sep '16 7:44:35 AM Larkmarn
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* WTHCastingAgency:
** KeanuReeves as Constantine. Shia [=LeBeouf=] as Chas.
** As previously mentioned under other tropes on this page, if you ignore the connection between the movie and ''Hellblazer,'' the casting choices are not so bad.[[/folder]]

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* WTHCastingAgency:
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WTHCastingAgency: Dark haired American KeanuReeves as Constantine. Shia [=LeBeouf=] as Chas.
** As previously mentioned under other tropes on this page, if you ignore the connection between the movie and ''Hellblazer,'' the casting choices are not so bad.
as... well, pretty much anyone might qualify, but playing a character who is normally John's contemporary (Chas) is a bit odd.
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30th Aug '16 3:09:06 AM Snowy66
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* MemeticMutation:
** John's Magic Card has been called [[Series/DoctorWho Psychic Paper]].
28th May '16 8:25:24 PM Silverblade2
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28th May '16 8:25:23 PM Silverblade2
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: A three legged deer randomly appears in "Rage of Caliban" and nothing is said about it after the incident.
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