History YMMV / ConanTheBarbarian1982

14th Aug '16 10:02:48 PM superboy313
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* CompleteMonster: The [[EvilSorcerer evil]] [[BigBad Thulsa]] [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom Doom]] starts by slaughtering Conan's village, decapitating Conan's mom while he stands next to her and selling the children as slaves just so that he can obtain weapons of fine steel from the barbarians. Later in the film, he orders a young woman to jump to her death to illustrate how much control he has over his followers before ordering Conan to be crucified. Shortly after that, we find out that he and his followers practice cannibalism. He proceeds to kill [[spoiler: Valeria, probably Conan's greatest love in the movie-verse]], with a snake arrow. After Rexor and his army's defeat in the Battle of the Mounds, Thulsa coldly tries to do the same thing to the Princess after deeming her [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer useful to him]]

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* CompleteMonster: The [[EvilSorcerer evil]] [[BigBad Thulsa]] [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom Doom]] starts by slaughtering Conan's village, decapitating Conan's mom while he stands next to her and selling the children as slaves just so that he can obtain weapons of fine steel from the barbarians. Later in the film, he orders a young woman to jump to her death to illustrate how much control he has over his followers before ordering Conan to be crucified. Shortly after that, we find out that he and his followers practice cannibalism. He proceeds to kill [[spoiler: Valeria, probably Conan's greatest love in the movie-verse]], with a snake arrow. After Rexor and his army's defeat in the Battle of the Mounds, Thulsa coldly tries to do the same thing to the Princess after deeming her [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer useful to him]]him]].
27th Mar '16 11:28:38 PM ritzoreo
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** Max von Sudow's performance as King Osric is half pure glorious HamAndCheese, part [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously unusually heartfelt]], and is often singled out by critics.

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** [[MaxVonSydow Max von Sudow's Sydow]]'s performance as King Osric is half pure glorious HamAndCheese, part [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously unusually heartfelt]], and is often singled out by critics.
13th Mar '16 10:45:05 PM quirkygenius
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* {{Anvilicious}}: According to [[http://www.overthinkingit.com/2011/08/10/conan-the-liberal/ this Overthinking It article]] the 1980s Conan movies have strong feminist, anti-racist and atheistic themes. Of course, the major screenwriter of the first film ''is'' Creator/OliverStone, which lends some credence to that. On the flip side of that coin, though, director and co-screenwriter John Milius self-identifies as conservative/libertarian in his personal views, Conan himself is a fiercely independent warrior who eventually becomes a king on his own steam, and the film explicitly shows that there is an afterlife when [[spoiler:Valeria briefly comes BackFromTheDead.]]

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* {{Anvilicious}}: According to [[http://www.overthinkingit.com/2011/08/10/conan-the-liberal/ this Overthinking It article]] the 1980s Conan movies have strong feminist, anti-racist and atheistic themes. Of course, the major screenwriter of the first film ''is'' Creator/OliverStone, which lends some credence to that. On the flip side of that coin, though, director and co-screenwriter John Milius self-identifies as conservative/libertarian in his personal views, Conan himself is a fiercely independent warrior who eventually becomes a king on his own steam, and the film explicitly shows Conan praying to Crom (albeit in a backhanded fashion) and that there is an afterlife when [[spoiler:Valeria briefly comes BackFromTheDead.]]]]
** This is a possible case of TruerToText: In the original Conan stories by Robert Howard [[ValuesDissonance there are some problems with the treatment of women and non-whites]] yet there also [[FairForItsDay surprisingly positive portrayals as well]]. On the subject of theism and atheism; Conan did revere gods, chief among them Crom, in Robert Howard's stories but considered it best not to draw their attention, coming across as spiritual and acknowledging gods but not religious.



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*** Also, the literary Thoth-Amon (the other inspiration for the film's Thulsa Doom) while being non-white and wicked [[AntiVillain had several noble qualities]].
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24th Oct '15 12:57:05 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: The [[EvilSorcerer evil]] [[BigBad Thulsa]] [[NamesToRunAwayFrom Doom]] starts by slaughtering Conan's village, decapitating Conan's mom while he stands next to her and selling the children as slaves just so that he can obtain weapons of fine steel from the barbarians. Later in the film, he orders a young woman to jump to her death to illustrate how much control he has over his followers before ordering Conan to be crucified. Shortly after that, we find out that he and his followers practice cannibalism. He proceeds to kill [[spoiler: Valeria, probably Conan's greatest love in the movie-verse]], with a snake arrow. After Rexor and his army's defeat in the Battle of the Mounds, Thulsa coldly tries to do the same thing to the Princess after deeming her [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer useful to him]]

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* CompleteMonster: The [[EvilSorcerer evil]] [[BigBad Thulsa]] [[NamesToRunAwayFrom [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom Doom]] starts by slaughtering Conan's village, decapitating Conan's mom while he stands next to her and selling the children as slaves just so that he can obtain weapons of fine steel from the barbarians. Later in the film, he orders a young woman to jump to her death to illustrate how much control he has over his followers before ordering Conan to be crucified. Shortly after that, we find out that he and his followers practice cannibalism. He proceeds to kill [[spoiler: Valeria, probably Conan's greatest love in the movie-verse]], with a snake arrow. After Rexor and his army's defeat in the Battle of the Mounds, Thulsa coldly tries to do the same thing to the Princess after deeming her [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer useful to him]]
12th Jul '15 9:05:25 AM SayaAensland
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY2mRG5mzg ''Anvil of Crom'']] or [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkMhRvEmG6s ''Riddle of Steel.'']] With so little dialogue, John Milius asked him to write a [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian]] {{opera}}tic score that would carry the whole movie, including the nearly-wordless first ''half-hour''. "Riddle of Steel"'s later middle section was slightly reworked into no less than three trailers for ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'', ''Ocarina of Time 3D'', and ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'').

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY2mRG5mzg ''Anvil of Crom'']] or [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkMhRvEmG6s ''Riddle of Steel.'']] With so little dialogue, John Milius asked him Basil Poledouris to write a [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian]] {{opera}}tic score that would carry the whole movie, including the nearly-wordless first ''half-hour''. "Riddle of Steel"'s later middle section was slightly reworked into no less than three trailers for ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'', ''Ocarina of Time 3D'', and ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'').
11th Mar '15 10:50:06 PM RushLimborg
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* {{Anvilicious}}: According to [[http://www.overthinkingit.com/2011/08/10/conan-the-liberal/ this Overthinking It article]] the 1980s Conan movies have strong feminist, anti-racist and atheistic themes. On the flip side of that coin, director and co-screenwriter John Milius self-identifies as conservative/libertarian in his personal views, Conan himself is a fiercely independent warrior who eventually becomes a king on his own steam, and the film explicitly shows that there is an afterlife when [[spoiler:Valeria briefly comes BackFromTheDead.]]

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* {{Anvilicious}}: According to [[http://www.overthinkingit.com/2011/08/10/conan-the-liberal/ this Overthinking It article]] the 1980s Conan movies have strong feminist, anti-racist and atheistic themes. Of course, the major screenwriter of the first film ''is'' Creator/OliverStone, which lends some credence to that. On the flip side of that coin, though, director and co-screenwriter John Milius self-identifies as conservative/libertarian in his personal views, Conan himself is a fiercely independent warrior who eventually becomes a king on his own steam, and the film explicitly shows that there is an afterlife when [[spoiler:Valeria briefly comes BackFromTheDead.]]]]
** Also, how the Children of Doom are portrayed--particularly in their introduction--could easily be seen as a major TakeThat to hippies of TheSixties.
17th Feb '15 1:47:22 PM Lunarcat
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** Thulsa Doom's snake cult members resemble hippies and/or followers of New Age or New Religious Movements.
16th Jan '15 12:50:21 AM ryanson209
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** To highlight some tracks, "Riders of Doom" is an epic anthem worthy of an army's final stand.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZY2mRG5mzg ''Anvil of Crom'']] or [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkMhRvEmG6s ''Riddle of Steel.'']] With so little dialogue, John Milius asked him to write a [[Creator/RichardWagner Wagnerian]] {{opera}}tic score that would carry the whole movie, including the nearly-wordless first ''half-hour''. "Riddle of Steel"'s later middle section was slightly reworked into no less than three trailers for ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'', ''Ocarina of Time 3D'', and ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'').
22nd Dec '14 8:42:22 AM Eegah
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Pay close attention to all of Conan and Valeria's scenes together after they first meet. He doesn't say ''one line'' to her!
1st Dec '14 8:28:57 AM MrDeath
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** {{WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic}} put "Riders of Doom" at the number 2 spot on his Top 11 Most Awesome Movie Themes, even over the movie's also awesome main theme. And for good reason!!
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