History YMMV / CivilWar

21st May '18 11:29:32 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: ''Civil War'' is usually seen as when Marvel began to go overboard with the Hero Vs Hero events.



* LogicalFallacies: One of the tie-ins involved Sally Floyd asking if ComicBook/CaptainAmerica followed NASCAR, had a Website/MySpace page, or watched ''Series/AmericanIdol''. He responds by saying no. Floyd then accuses Captain America of being out of touch with modern America and he is stunned into silence. First of all, American culture does not consist solely of race cars (mostly popular in just the Southern states), an online community (mostly popular amongst teens), and a TV show (based on a ''British'' show). Secondly, no one would be asinine enough to tell a politician that he or she was out of touch with America for not having a Website/MySpace page, so why would it matter to Captain America? Finally, considering Cap is a SuperHero, one would assume that he is [[CallToAdventure too busy saving the world]] to bother watching ''American Idol'' every night.
21st May '18 11:25:57 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* AssPull: The official statement that the Pro-Registration were the good guys in this story comes across as pretty hollow considering what they do over the course of the comics.
19th May '18 9:29:44 AM GordyTepig
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** The event also went on during the same time as ''X-Men: Decimation,'' in which most of the world's mutants have been depowered and they're being hunted to extinction. ''[[ComicBook/NewXMenAcademyX New X-Men]]'' even has Emma give a five-page TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Ms. Marvel, telling her about all the students she lost while the Avengers were busy doing their own thing instead of helping them.
22nd Apr '18 8:27:10 AM MacedonianKing
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** A common misunderstanding of ''Civil War'' is that registering may mean revealing the secret identity to all the public and becoming vulnerable to attacks from super villains. In fact, they were only legally required to reveal their identities to the state, '''not''' the public. Spider-Man took things a step forward as a gesture of support to Stark.

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** A common misunderstanding of ''Civil War'' is that registering may mean revealing the secret identity to all the public and becoming vulnerable to attacks from super villains. In fact, they were only legally required to reveal their identities to the state, government, '''not''' the public. Spider-Man took things a step forward as a gesture of support to Stark.Stark.
*** Although if the heroes' identities are archived by the government it's not hard to imagine that a villain like Doctor Octopus or Ultron could simply access the database to learn the identities of their foes.
8th Apr '18 10:26:15 AM Storygirl000
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* BetterThanCanon: Most adaptations of the story are regarded as being vastly better than the source material--particularly, the direct adaptation ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'' and the [[Franchise/Marve;lCinematicUniverse MCU]] adaptation ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.

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* BetterThanCanon: Most adaptations of the story are regarded as being vastly better than the source material--particularly, the direct adaptation ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'' and the [[Franchise/Marve;lCinematicUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] adaptation ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
8th Apr '18 10:25:52 AM Storygirl000
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* BetterThanCanon: Most adaptations of the story are regarded as being vastly better than the source material--particularly, the direct adaptation ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance 2''.

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* BetterThanCanon: Most adaptations of the story are regarded as being vastly better than the source material--particularly, the direct adaptation ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance 2''.2'' and the [[Franchise/Marve;lCinematicUniverse MCU]] adaptation ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.
1st Mar '18 7:37:36 PM TheRealYuma
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** This debate seems to have crossed over into the film adaptation as well.
1st Mar '18 7:35:42 PM TheRealYuma
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* BetterThanCanon: Most adaptations of the story are regarded as being vastly better than the source material--particularly, the direct adaptation ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'' and the PragmaticAdaptation ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.

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* BetterThanCanon: Most adaptations of the story are regarded as being vastly better than the source material--particularly, the direct adaptation ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'' and the PragmaticAdaptation ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''.2''.
3rd Feb '18 8:36:35 AM SeptimusHeap
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** Sally Floyd's supposedly ArmorPiercingQuestion "What is MySpace?" would be just as baffling to most people in the U.S. today.

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** Sally Floyd's supposedly ArmorPiercingQuestion "What is MySpace?" Website/MySpace?" would be just as baffling to most people in the U.S. today.



* LogicalFallacies: One of the tie-ins involved Sally Floyd asking if ComicBook/CaptainAmerica followed NASCAR, had a MySpace page, or watched ''Series/AmericanIdol''. He responds by saying no. Floyd then accuses Captain America of being out of touch with modern America and he is stunned into silence. First of all, American culture does not consist solely of race cars (mostly popular in just the Southern states), an online community (mostly popular amongst teens), and a TV show (based on a ''British'' show). Secondly, no one would be asinine enough to tell a politician that he or she was out of touch with America for not having a MySpace page, so why would it matter to Captain America? Finally, considering Cap is a SuperHero, one would assume that he is [[CallToAdventure too busy saving the world]] to bother watching ''American Idol'' every night.

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* LogicalFallacies: One of the tie-ins involved Sally Floyd asking if ComicBook/CaptainAmerica followed NASCAR, had a MySpace Website/MySpace page, or watched ''Series/AmericanIdol''. He responds by saying no. Floyd then accuses Captain America of being out of touch with modern America and he is stunned into silence. First of all, American culture does not consist solely of race cars (mostly popular in just the Southern states), an online community (mostly popular amongst teens), and a TV show (based on a ''British'' show). Secondly, no one would be asinine enough to tell a politician that he or she was out of touch with America for not having a MySpace Website/MySpace page, so why would it matter to Captain America? Finally, considering Cap is a SuperHero, one would assume that he is [[CallToAdventure too busy saving the world]] to bother watching ''American Idol'' every night.
15th Jan '18 3:19:23 PM Eagal
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* UnfortunateImplications: As Linkara pointed out during his [[http://channelawesome.com/15-things-wrong-with-marvels-civil-war-at4w/ "15 Things Wrong with Marvel's Civil War" video]] (at point 6), the prominent casualty of an event named ''Civil War'' is a black guy....killed by a blond, blue-eyed guy based on Nordic Mythology [[note]]Norse mythos being the core mythos for the North ''German''ic[[/note]] and his body gets wrapped up in chains afterwards. What's worse? [[https://youtu.be/q_iCAivfGsg?t=21m7s Said blondie]] was cloned from the original Thor to act as a, for lack of a better term, ''slave''. In the same review, Linkara was also struck speechless by Tony saying that the Thor clone acted like any police officer would - that is, he immediately shot to kill against a black man. Given that several race riots have erupted because police officers acted like that against minorities... yeah, [[HarsherInHindsight that defense didn't age well]].

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* UnfortunateImplications: As Linkara pointed out during his [[http://channelawesome.com/15-things-wrong-with-marvels-civil-war-at4w/ [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_iCAivfGsg "15 Things Wrong with Marvel's Civil War" video]] (at point 6), the prominent casualty of an event named ''Civil War'' is a black guy....killed by a blond, blue-eyed guy based on Nordic Mythology [[note]]Norse mythos being the core mythos for the North ''German''ic[[/note]] and his body gets wrapped up in chains afterwards. What's worse? [[https://youtu.be/q_iCAivfGsg?t=21m7s Said blondie]] was cloned from the original Thor to act as a, for lack of a better term, ''slave''. In the same review, Linkara was also struck speechless by Tony saying that the Thor clone acted like any police officer would - that is, he immediately shot to kill against a black man. Given that several race riots have erupted because police officers acted like that against minorities... yeah, [[HarsherInHindsight that defense didn't age well]].
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