History YMMV / ChronoTrigger

19th Sep '17 11:09:49 AM infernape612
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* SugarMusic/AwesomeMusic: ''Chrono Trigger'''s soundtrack is one of the most beloved video game soundtracks of all time.

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* SugarMusic/AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''Chrono Trigger'''s soundtrack is one of the most beloved video game soundtracks of all time.time. You can find the comprehensive list on [[AwesomeMusic/YasunoriMitsuda this page]].
16th Sep '17 3:42:45 PM Brainbin
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOWf_T0jdgQ Robo's Theme,]] especially because of its resemblance to [[RickRoll a song that became popular about a decade later...]]

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOWf_T0jdgQ Robo's Theme,]] especially because of its resemblance to [[RickRoll a song that became had been popular a decade earlier... and would become popular again about a decade later...]]
27th Aug '17 6:45:35 PM KingLyger
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** Marle is a particularly disputed one. She has the drawback of being a healer with no multi-target heals (at least none that don't also gobble up Crono's turn), and late in the game her offensive capability falls way behind everyone else's. Many players prefer to farm for Magic Tabs/Capsules and pump Frog and/or Robo full of them so they have the magic power to heal effectively, and there's no corresponding way to raise Marle's offense. However, Marle has Haste and Life 2/Arise, casts half of Antipode 3/Antipode Bomb III (one of the best dual techs in the game), has tremendous natural magic defense and can wear the Prism Dress, which bumps her magical defense so high she can take a [[ThatOneAttack Dreamless/Dreamweaver]] to the face and keep smiling. This was addressed in the DS remake, where she was given the Venus Bow, a weapon that always deals exactly 777 damage - which isn't much in most circumstances but does give her some utility against enemies with unusually high defenses.
** ''Magus''. Sure, he's totally badass in-universe and his spells all really ''look'' cool and he's got good elemental coverage and nice high magic stats... but he gets no dual techs to speak of ''at all'', and his two Triples are merely okay (there's lots of other ways to tickle the damage cap that don't involve three characters) ''and'' they require one of the party members to sacrifice an accessory slot for an item to merely enable using the tech. You also have to find said items. So if you like making heavy use of dual and triple techs, Magus' utility is surprisingly limited. On the other hand, he has Dark Matter, very high magic defense, and relatively high physical defense as well, so other players like to equip him with a Gold Stud and cast Dark Matter constantly, trusting that he'll have an easier time staying on his feet than Lucca.

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** Marle is a particularly disputed one. She has the drawback of being a healer with no multi-target heals (at least none that don't also gobble up Crono's someone else's turn), and late in the game her offensive capability falls way behind everyone else's. is easily the game's worst. Many players prefer to farm for Magic Tabs/Capsules and pump Frog and/or Robo full of them so they have the magic power to heal effectively, and since there's no corresponding way to raise Marle's offense. offense, as her damage is tied to her accuracy. However, Marle has Haste and Life 2/Arise, casts half of Antipode 3/Antipode Bomb III (one of the best dual techs in the game), has tremendous natural magic defense and can wear the Prism Dress, which bumps casts Auto-Shell, bumping her magical defense so high she can take a [[ThatOneAttack Dreamless/Dreamweaver]] to the face and keep smiling. This was addressed in the DS remake, where she was given the Venus Bow, a weapon that always deals exactly 777 damage - which isn't much in most circumstances but does give her some utility against enemies with unusually high defenses.
** ''Magus''. Sure, he's totally badass in-universe and his spells all really ''look'' cool and he's got good elemental coverage and nice high magic stats... but he gets no dual techs to speak of ''at all'', Dual Techs at all, and his two Triples are merely okay (there's lots of other ways to tickle the damage cap that don't involve three characters) ''and'' they require one of the party members to sacrifice an their accessory slot for an item to merely enable using the tech. You also have to find said items.tech. So if you like making heavy use of dual and triple techs, Magus' utility is surprisingly limited. On the other hand, he has Dark Matter, very high magic defense, and relatively high physical defense as well, so other players like to equip him with a Gold Stud and cast Dark Matter constantly, trusting that he'll have an easier time staying on his feet than Lucca.
17th Aug '17 2:35:18 PM PF
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* SacredCow: At least in the eyes of popular gaming sites, like Website/{{GameFAQs}}.
** Former Senior Vice President Shinji Hashimoto disagreed at E3 2009:

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* SacredCow: At least in the eyes of popular gaming sites, like Website/{{GameFAQs}}.
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Website/{{GameFAQs}}. Former Senior Vice President Shinji Hashimoto disagreed at E3 2009:
13th Aug '17 8:28:26 PM MugenKagemaru
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** Magus's theme, a.k.a "The Black Wind Howls". A more epic music for a battle there never was, especially since it was the most critical fight in the game up until that point.

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** Magus's theme, a.k.a "The Black Wind Howls".theme. A more epic music for a battle there never was, especially since it was the most critical fight in the game up until that point. Fittingly, it's official titles are "Battle With Magus" (SNES) and "Magus Confronted" (DS)



** Queen Zeal counts, combining a modest bit of cleavage with PowerIsSexy.

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** Queen Zeal counts, combining a modest bit of cleavage with [[EvilIsSexy Evil]] PowerIsSexy.



** Alghetty, the village of non-magical humans in 12000 BC is referred to as "the village of the Earthbound ones" in the English translation. Even though it was likely a coincidence, [[VideoGame/EarthBound another RPG under this title was released at the same time]].

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** Alghetty, Algetty, the village of non-magical humans in 12000 BC is referred to as "the village of the Earthbound ones" in the English translation. Even though it was likely a coincidence, [[VideoGame/EarthBound another RPG under this title was released at the same time]].



** Former Senior Vice President Shinji Hashimoto disagreed at E3 2009:
--->'''Hashimoto''': Why does everyone ask about ''Chrono Trigger''?\\
'''???''' (paraphrased): The game was adored by fans.\\
'''Hashimoto''': That's not what the sales tell me! If people want a sequel, they should buy more!



** Masa & Mune, due to being an unexpected [[note]](in that you think you're home free after the first round, which was predicted by NPC chatter saying the MacGuffin was guarded)[[/note]] WakeUpCallBoss that forces you to remember random information you gathered in the town earlier. [[BlindIdiotTranslation Unless you're playing the SNES English version.]] At no prior point does this snippet of information become relevant, and it only ever becomes relevant again during the optional BossRush.



** Lavos in the Ocean Palace is not quite a slouch; while he's intended as a HopelessBossFight during an initial playthrough, he actually ''is'' beatable here and doing so unlocks the "Developer's Room" ending. However, even for a team who's gotten all the late game treasure, beaten the game ''and'' made their way through most of a NewGamePlus, his heavily enhanced stats in this fight can still make him pretty studly and a tough fight. Thankfully, this only applies to his "outer shell" form, and the other two forms at this point have regular stats.

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** Lavos in the Ocean Palace is not quite a slouch; while he's intended as a HopelessBossFight during an initial playthrough, he actually ''is'' beatable here and doing so unlocks the "Developer's Room" ending. However, even for a team who's gotten all the late game treasure, beaten the game ''and'' made their way through most of a NewGamePlus, his heavily enhanced stats in this fight can still make him pretty studly and a tough fight. Thankfully, this only applies to his "outer shell" form, and the other two forms at this point have regular stats.stats, since you weren't expected to win the first one.



** Azala is apparently female, because she and Nizbel are the only prehistoric characters [[HulkSpeak who know what pronouns are]]. Reptites don't have NonMammalMammaries, apparently. This isn't helped by Azala's gender not being referenced ever in the SNES version.

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** Azala is apparently female, because she and Nizbel II are the only prehistoric characters [[HulkSpeak who know what pronouns are]]. Reptites don't have NonMammalMammaries, apparently. This isn't helped by Azala's gender not being referenced ever in the SNES version. Thankfully, Nizbel II settled the matter in the DS version.



* {{Wangst}}: Frog bears regret over watching Cyrus die, and feels as though he's failed even after he helps Crono and Lucca rescue Queen Leene. He [[AchillesInHisTent spends some time brooding in his hideout]] until the others help him throw off his feelings of inadequacy and he realizes he can still make a difference in the world.
* TheWoobie: Frog, Robo, and [[UrbanLegendOfZelda Schala]]. In-game, [[spoiler:Ayla woobifies Azala right before her death.]]

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* {{Wangst}}: Frog bears regret over watching Cyrus die, and feels as though he's failed even after he helps Crono and Lucca rescue Queen Leene. He [[AchillesInHisTent He spends some time brooding in his hideout]] until the others help give him throw off his feelings of inadequacy the Hero's Badge and reforged Masamune, at which point he realizes decides to see what would happen if he can still make a difference in went for it, and then commits once he has the world.
Masamune before him and he's reflected on everything.
* TheWoobie: Frog, Robo, and [[UrbanLegendOfZelda Schala]]. In-game, [[spoiler:Ayla woobifies woobie-fies Azala right before her death.the latter dies, saying she won't forget her.]]



** Done by Ted Woolsey himself, no less. Likely the source of Ozzie/Slash/Flea being named as such rather than their original condiment-themed names. Also, Schala was originally named "Sara" in the Japanese version; Janus was named "Jackie." Similar to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Tina/Terra]], this is a case where the names that would've sounded "exotic" to Japanese speakers (but commonplace to English speakers) was changed to preserve the exoticism. Same goes for the Gurus' names, [[ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming Gaspar, Melchior and Belthazar]] (which were "Gash", "Mash", and "Bash" in the Japanese version, but make a lot more sense in the English translation). See the trope entry for more.

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** Done by Ted Woolsey himself, no less. Likely the source of Ozzie/Slash/Flea being named as such rather than their original condiment-themed names. Also, Schala was originally named "Sara" in the Japanese version; Janus was named "Jackie." Similar to [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Tina/Terra]], this is a case where the names that would've sounded "exotic" to Japanese speakers (but commonplace to English speakers) was changed to preserve the exoticism. Same goes for the Gurus' names, [[ReligiousAndMythologicalThemeNaming Gaspar, Melchior and Belthazar]] Belthasar]] (which were "Gash", "Mash", "Hash", and "Bash" in the Japanese version, but make a lot more sense in the English translation). See the trope entry for more.more.
%% Gaspar's Japanese name is "ハッシュ" which reads as "Hasshu"
6th Jul '17 6:18:22 PM Raikoh
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* ItWasHisSled: The facts that [[spoiler: [[TheHeroDies Crono can outright die]] and [[KilledOffForReal not be revived]]]] and [[spoiler: Magus can be recruited instead of killed, not to mention isn't the BigBad at all]] are an old hat for anyone that is even remotely familiar with the game, not to mention the former is one of the most remembered and discussed surprises of its ''era.''
23rd Jun '17 2:31:14 PM TheRoguePenguin
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** Marle's Haste spell, and auto-haste equipment like the Haste Helm, make the characters buffed with

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** Marle's Haste spell, and auto-haste equipment like the Haste Helm, make the characters buffed with it twice as fast as normal. It's effectively an extra turn.
23rd Jun '17 2:30:32 PM TheRoguePenguin
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** Marle's Haste spell, and auto-haste equipment like the Haste Helm.

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** Marle's Haste spell, and auto-haste equipment like the Haste Helm.Helm, make the characters buffed with



** '''Gold Studs'''! Get three Gold Studs to cut your MP costs, and you can spam your most powerful magic without a care in the world. This is incredibly easy to do as well as one enemy (Scouter in the SNES version, Flyclops in [=PS1=]) in the game gives them after they are Charmed. Combine this with Marle's Haste above, and you'll have a team that can spam Triple Techs like there's no tomorrow. Most bosses go down like chumps.

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** '''Gold Studs'''! Get three Gold Studs to cut your MP costs, and you can spam your most powerful magic without a care in the world. This is incredibly easy to do as well as You find one over the course of normal gameplay, and can steal more from a specific enemy (Scouter in the SNES version, Flyclops in [=PS1=]) in the game gives them after they are Charmed.using Charm. Combine this with Marle's Haste above, and you'll have a team that can spam Triple Techs like there's no tomorrow. Most bosses go down like chumps.
2nd May '17 12:39:22 PM mouschilight
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** In a subversion of using an "exotic" name, Woolsey changed Princess Mardia to Princess Nadia. Also, Janus' Japanese name is Jakki, not Jackie, though it's likely Woolsey didn't know that, either (both names are written the same in Japanese).

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** In a subversion of using an "exotic" name, Woolsey changed Marle's real name, Princess Mardia Marledia, to Princess Nadia. Also, Janus' Japanese name is Jakki, not Jackie, though it's likely Woolsey didn't know that, either (both names are written the same in Japanese).
17th Apr '17 9:16:19 AM mouschilight
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* FanPreferredCouple: Despite Crono/Marle being the OfficialCouple, a considerable portion of the fandom has held torches for Crono/Lucca.

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* FanPreferredCouple: Despite Crono/Marle being the OfficialCouple, OfficialCouple and being fairly popular in its own right, a considerable portion of the fandom has held torches for Crono/Lucca.



** Lucca as the [[ChildhoodFriendRomance unlucky childhood friend]] of Crono's who was just [[CannotSpitItOut unable to admit her feelings]] and then [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy stood aside for Marle]] is such a common fan assumption that it's actually rarer to find portrayals of her that take her at her word that they're PlatonicLifePartners. Granted, the {{canon}} itself doesn't totally [[ShipSinking rule out the possibility]].

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** Lucca as the [[ChildhoodFriendRomance unlucky childhood friend]] of Crono's who was just [[CannotSpitItOut unable to admit her feelings]] and then [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy stood aside for Marle]] is such a common fan assumption that it's actually rarer to find portrayals of her that take her at her word that they're PlatonicLifePartners.LikeBrotherAndSister. Granted, the {{canon}} itself doesn't totally [[ShipSinking rule out the possibility]].



** Frog and Crono, to a lesser extent. The character that plays the [[spoiler:Crono resurrection scene]] is determined by a priority list, presumably with the characters that are closer to Crono having a higher priority. [[LoveInterest Marle's first]], [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Lucca's second]]. Guess who's third.

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** Frog and Crono, to a lesser extent. The character that plays the [[spoiler:Crono resurrection scene]] is determined by a priority list, presumably with the characters that are closer to Crono having a higher priority. [[LoveInterest Marle's first]], [[ChildhoodFriendRomance [[LikeBrotherAndSister Lucca's second]]. Guess who's third.
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