History YMMV / ChronoCross

3rd Feb '17 11:36:17 AM immortalfrieza
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** All the characters that can be recruited by Serge prior to the Lynx portion of the game are locked out from use. The amount of potential lost there is staggering. In particular, Leena will never be able to encounter her father and learn what happened to him because she can't be in the party at the point in the game where you encounter him.
23rd Dec '16 4:44:37 PM Gosicrystal
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** The S.S. Zelbess. It's not difficult; rather, it's boring. You're on the Zelbess trying to find a way into the Dead Sea, but Fargo manages to swindle you out of your boat, leaving you trapped on the ship until you find a way to get the boat back. In addition, there's also a fairly involved sidequest that has to be completed during this portion of the game; failing to complete it at a certain time makes the reward LostForever. Oh, and the whole time, you get to hear [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBuDsdsa9Jg this]] blaring over the speakers.

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** The S.S. Zelbess. It's not difficult; rather, it's boring. You're on the Zelbess trying to find a way into the Dead Sea, but Fargo manages to swindle you out of your boat, leaving you trapped on the ship until you find a way to get the boat back. In addition, there's also a fairly involved sidequest that has to be completed during this portion of the game; failing to complete it at a certain time makes the reward LostForever.{{Permanently Missable|Content}}. Oh, and the whole time, you get to hear [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBuDsdsa9Jg this]] blaring over the speakers.



** High Tier: Serge is so much stronger than any other character in the game that he borders on this. And you can't remove him from the party until NewGamePlus, either. Glenn is also incredibly strong, especially with his dual tech X-Strike with Serge. The only problem with Glenn is that you have to refuse to save Kid instead of looking for her medicine. If you don't do that, Glenn is LostForever. Leena also is great in the early game (for having a high magic stat and a great grid, and the only decent choice for magic unless you forsake Glenn for Razzly)

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** High Tier: Serge is so much stronger than any other character in the game that he borders on this. And you can't remove him from the party until NewGamePlus, either. Glenn is also incredibly strong, especially with his dual tech X-Strike with Serge. The only problem with Glenn is that you have to refuse to save Kid instead of looking for her medicine. If you don't do that, Glenn is LostForever.[[PermanentlyMissableContent lost forever]]. Leena also is great in the early game (for having a high magic stat and a great grid, and the only decent choice for magic unless you forsake Glenn for Razzly)
24th Sep '16 2:00:45 PM Ragitsu
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** Diminish. It halves all element damage. It makes a lot of bosses much easier to fight than they would.

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** Diminish. It halves all element damage. It makes a lot of bosses much easier to fight than they would.would normally be.
15th Sep '16 6:50:25 PM kkhohoho
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** ''Chrono Cross'' players can largely be divided into two groups: those who were shocked and/or outraged upon learning that Crono and Marle had similarly been [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed in the intervening years during the Fall of Guardia]], or those who insist that the Ghost Children aren't their spirits but some sort of manifested memory, [[HesJustHiding and the two characters are still alive somewhere]]. Similarly, the "Now eliminating Prometheus" (aka Robo) scene is either dramaticor a contrived, mean-spirited way of pissing on the fans of the classic game and its characters, especially since none of the characters in-universe even know who he was, but ''Trigger'' players would.

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** ''Chrono Cross'' players can largely be divided into two groups: those who were shocked and/or outraged upon learning that Crono and Marle had similarly been [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed in the intervening years during the Fall of Guardia]], or those who insist that the Ghost Children aren't their spirits but some sort of manifested memory, [[HesJustHiding and the two characters are still alive somewhere]]. Similarly, the "Now eliminating Prometheus" (aka Robo) scene is either dramaticor dramatic or a contrived, mean-spirited way of pissing on the fans of the classic game and its characters, especially since none of the characters in-universe even know who he was, but ''Trigger'' players would.
8th Aug '16 1:04:29 PM KingZeal
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** The Dead Sea. Not only do you get to play as Lynx, but you get to do it in a place with art to die for. You get to see waves standing still, the ruins of a future that was erased from existence, and get a good amount of plot exposition handled in about as straightforward and engaging way, even moreso if you bring the right characters along. Plus, you top it off by fighting [[ThatOneBoss Miguel]] in a battle set to [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic "Prisoners of Fate".]] As far as RPG levels go, it's one of the best ever.
7th Aug '16 4:48:55 PM ThatBitterTase
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** The Dead Sea. Not only do you get to play as Lynx, but you get to do it in a place with art to die for. You get to see waves standing still, the ruins of a future that was erased from existence, and get a good amount of plot exposition handled in about as straightforward and engaging way, even moreso if you bring the right characters along. Plus, you top it off by fighting [[ThatOneBoss Miguel]] in a battle set to [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic "Prisoners of Fate".]] As far as RPG levels go, it's one of the best ever.
10th Jul '16 5:38:20 PM nombretomado
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The initial premise with Serge trying to uncover what caused him to end in an alternate timeline was a pretty interesting start, which sadly got resolved less than half way through the game and was mostly an attempt at trying to resolve the TimeyWimeyBall in ''ChronoTrigger'', but sadly only made the time paradoxes in both games [[MindScrew even more confusing]].

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The initial premise with Serge trying to uncover what caused him to end in an alternate timeline was a pretty interesting start, which sadly got resolved less than half way through the game and was mostly an attempt at trying to resolve the TimeyWimeyBall in ''ChronoTrigger'', ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', but sadly only made the time paradoxes in both games [[MindScrew even more confusing]].
9th Jul '16 7:39:12 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Guile is loved by many for some reasons: he looks badass with PowerFloats, a powerful BlackMage, a versatile FanficFuel, etc. However, Guile isn't safe from extremely scathing remarks for being a FlatCharacter, having a troublesome inverted element grid in the game plus low accuracy and slow stamina recovery, as well as his over-the-top flamboyant look. There's also the fact that [[spoiler: he's still implied to be Magus, but [[AllThereInTheManual the details are vague enough]] that [[{{Expy}} he just comes across as a Magus wannabe]].]]

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Guile is loved by many for some reasons: he looks badass with PowerFloats, a powerful BlackMage, a versatile FanficFuel, etc. However, Guile isn't safe from extremely scathing remarks for being a FlatCharacter, having a troublesome inverted element grid in the game plus low accuracy and slow stamina recovery, as well as his over-the-top flamboyant look. There's also the fact that [[spoiler: he's still implied to be Magus, but [[AllThereInTheManual the details are vague enough]] that [[{{Expy}} he just comes across as a Magus wannabe]].]]
6th Jun '16 2:08:12 PM KingZeal
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* AssPull: [[spoiler:Lavos being involved in ''everything''. Even with the mention of Chrono Trigger's events, this comes out of nowhere.]] Even more of an AssPull when you considered that two ''separate'' ports of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' had to involve massive retcons to try and make this plot revelation work. [[spoiler:Even then, Lavos' sudden evolution to an unkillable god makes no sense, and comes completely out of nowhere at the end of the game.]]

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* AssPull: AssPull:
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[[spoiler:Lavos being involved in ''everything''. Even with the mention of Chrono Trigger's events, this comes out of nowhere.]] Even more of an AssPull when you considered that two ''separate'' ports of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' had to involve massive retcons to try and make this plot revelation work. [[spoiler:Even then, Lavos' sudden evolution to an unkillable god makes no sense, and comes completely out of nowhere at the end of the game.]]]]
** The complex plot and often-decried GainaxEnding, as well. To summarize, the final stroke of [[spoiler:Belthazar's plan]] was to provide Serge with two different versions of the Dragon's Tear from two different alternate universes so that this would somehow heal the rift in time, destroy the Time Devourer, ''and'' somehow merge the broken timelines into one. That last one is head-scratching on its own, as it never explains HOW timelines can be "merged" since many of the differences between the two are mutually exclusive.
6th Jun '16 10:11:44 AM Ghostiet
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* CriticalDissonance: The game has a fairly minor but notable version of this. Audience: very popular (was a Greatest Hits game) but [[ContestedSequel incredibly divisive]] among ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' fans. Critics: Unanimous praise (is one of a handful of games to get a perfect 10 from Gamespot, for instance).

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* CriticalDissonance: The game has a fairly minor but notable version of this. Audience: very popular (was a Greatest Hits game) but [[ContestedSequel incredibly divisive]] among ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' fans. Critics: Unanimous praise (is one of a handful of games to get a perfect 10 from Gamespot, for instance).instance[[note]]Although Jeff Gerstmann noted in a retrospective that the review itself was done by a freelancer and technically broke their self-imposed rules regarding giving out 10s.[[/note]]).
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