History YMMV / ChronoCross

19th Sep '17 10:37:26 PM NoSurprizes
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* NightmareFuel: Guile's first tech, Wanda In, which teleports his magic wand ''inside his enemy's innards and pulls it back out''.
** Orcha's third tech, [=DinnerGuest=], with the grinders mowing down the enemy and the [[NothingIsScarier screen turning black.]]
** Skelly's a [[MonsterClown Skeleton Clown.]]
** Cupoids are eerie; they look like tortured and angry and possibly undead child-angels.
** During the scene with the [[spoiler:burning orphanage]], you can hear ''[[spoiler:the children screaming in fear and pain.'' In fact, the entire level is this.]]
** In-game: Throughout the game, Serge has flashbacks of the demon panther that attacked him as a child.
** Lynx can be a pretty intimidating villain. When he first appears in the game, he mentions that you "saved [him] the trouble of finding you"; that means he's been looking for you, and you have no idea why. This is probably even more terrifying for Serge, since Lynx is literally a walking nightmare to him. Then there's the scene in Fort Dragonia where [[spoiler:Serge and Lynx switch bodies]]; they both end up crying in pain because of this. Even after this event, Lynx [[spoiler:in Serge's body]] is able to drag Serge's name through the mud almost instantly. And that's not even going into when [[spoiler:Lynx transforms into FATE]]...And even though the revelation that [[spoiler:Lynx is [[LukeIAmYourFather Serge's dad]]]] comes really late into the game, it still delivers a lot of {{Fridge Horror}} in the end.
*** Also, when Lynx as Serge first talks. The fact that Serge never really said anything up to this point makes it creepy. Then his profile [[http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Serge?file=Portrait_Serge.png image]] turns to [[http://shrines.rpgclassics.com/psx/cc/images/faces/darkserge2f.gif this.]] Nobody's safe.
** The FMV where [[spoiler: the dragons become the "Time Devourer" has the Green Dragon suddenly making [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/greendragon_8889.png this face]] and biting the Sky Dragon.]]
** There's also [[http://www.icybrian.com/games/chronocross/serge2.jpg this image]] of Dark Serge, shown for [[FreezeFrameBonus less than a second]] in the intro.
** The game's intro is probably one of the most unsettling of any JRPG out there. Imagine getting mysteriously teleported to a different version of your world ''where you died'', and because of that everyone you know is not the same anymore. Nobody believes you are who you say you are, so you might as well be a stranger to everyone you ever knew. Some of the differences are pretty disturbing, like the man who became a fisherman in your world; in the one where you died, his paranoia turned him into a worshipper of a bizarre cat cult. He never leaves his house or interacts with his family, to the point where his daughter thinks her father doesn't love her anymore.
** [[SequentialBoss Bunyip.]] At first, it appears to be a large [[EyelessFace eyeless]] frog...[[BuffySpeak thingy]]. OK, kinda creepy, but not too bad, right? After enough damage is dealt, it goes OneWingedAngel, opens its mouth, and an enormous black blob with a [[GiantEyeOfDoom giant eye]] comes out, serving as the second part of the boss fight while its original body serves as the new "base". [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxploKpjs9w See here.]]
10th Aug '17 9:31:06 PM Draghinazzo
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The graphics and design are amazing, and haven't aged much.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: The graphics In addition to a strong, distinctive aesthetic, the game has some of the best character models and design are amazing, backgrounds on the Playstation, and haven't aged much.still look quite good today other than the artifacts in the pre-rendered full motion video cutscenes.
9th Aug '17 12:06:19 PM crashkey
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* ShockingSwerve: The Dragon Gods and their FaceHeelTurn.

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The Dragon Gods and their FaceHeelTurn.FaceHeelTurn.
** Lynx being [[spoiler:Serge's father]].
9th Aug '17 11:50:50 AM crashkey
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* {{Fanon}}: Popular knowledge -- even in this very Wiki's sites on ChronoCross - has it that the localization team built an on-the-fly accent generator in order to fit the text onto the game's two disks. Funnily enough, there seems to be no outrage over the fact that each character's unique text got lost this way in the translation. Wanna know why? By reading translated interviews from the Chrono Compendium you actually learn that the accent-generator was already present in the Japanese version of the game, which did not have unique text for most of the characters either. The English version, however, refined and massively expanded upon the functions of the original's parser.
9th Aug '17 11:48:41 AM crashkey
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* DisappointingLastLevel: It's sometimes cited that the game loses track of where the plot is going somewhere after the Dead Sea, and never quite gets back on track. Disc Two is particularly bad; most of it is spent either wandering through Chronopolis or climbing Terra Tower, both of which are {{Marathon Level}}s whose only saving graces is that their bosses are the BestBossEver.

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* DisappointingLastLevel: It's sometimes cited that the game loses track of where the plot is going somewhere after the Dead Sea, and never quite gets back on track. Disc Two is particularly bad; most of it is spent either wandering through Chronopolis or climbing Terra Tower, both of which are {{Marathon Level}}s whose only saving graces is that their bosses are the BestBossEver.Level}}s.
9th Aug '17 11:46:22 AM crashkey
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* ContestedSequel: The game was destined for this by being the only ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' sequel. There are a lot of people who loved the mood of the game, the huge cast of characters, and the fact the plot seemed to delight in tying [[HappyEndingOverride rather darkly]] into its predecessor. Needless to say, the other half of the ''Chrono'' fandom hates it for those exact reasons, and the epic MindScrew GainaxEnding. Most of the fandom agrees that it's a good game in its own right, but the dispute as to whether it's a good sequel to ''Chrono Trigger'' is pure FlameBait. The contested part lies primarily in the fact that the way it ties into the previous game doesn't make it feel like a sequel in the traditional sense due to the whole "multiple realities" thing, and the lack of time travel. The fact that it lacks the characterization of the previous game in ORDER to make space for so many characters is why it is despised by so many, when one of the major virtues of the original game was a small, tight-knit, well-characterized cast.

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* ContestedSequel: The game was destined for this by being the only a ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' sequel. There are a lot of people who loved the mood of the game, the huge cast of characters, and the fact the plot seemed to delight in tying [[HappyEndingOverride rather darkly]] into its predecessor. Needless to say, the other half of the ''Chrono'' fandom hates it for those exact reasons, and the epic MindScrew GainaxEnding. Most of the fandom agrees that it's a good game in its own right, but the dispute as to whether it's a good sequel to ''Chrono Trigger'' is pure FlameBait. The contested part lies primarily in the fact that the way it ties into the previous game doesn't make it feel like a sequel in the traditional sense due to the whole "multiple realities" thing, and the lack of time travel. The fact that it lacks the characterization of the previous game in ORDER to make space for so many characters is why it is despised by so many, when one of the major virtues of the original game was a small, tight-knit, well-characterized cast.
9th Aug '17 11:45:40 AM crashkey
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** Chronopolis. Yes, it's basically a glorified InfoDump, but to get there, you had to hunt down the six Dragon Gods and fight them to get a PlotCoupon from each. Pacing issues aside, the music is excellent and the boss is fun to fight.

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** Chronopolis. Yes, it's basically a glorified InfoDump, but to get there, you had to hunt it comes after hunting down the six Dragon Gods and fight them to get a PlotCoupon from each. Pacing issues aside, each dragon, which was a mostly plot-free arc, so exploring a new area with lots of story is satisfying. And the music is excellent and the boss is fun to fight.



* BrokenBase: Fans of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' in regards to this game, specifically whether it is a worthy sequel or deserves to wallow in FanonDiscontinuity. Is it an excellent game that brings resolution to the events of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' in a fun and inventive way, or an existentialist piece of crap with too convoluted a plot, too many characters, and too many unanswered questions? Then there's the things ''Cross'' does to beloved characters from the first game:
** ''Chrono Cross'' players can largely be divided into two groups: those who were shocked and/or outraged upon learning that Crono and Marle had similarly been [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed in the intervening years during the Fall of Guardia]], or those who insist that the Ghost Children aren't their spirits but some sort of manifested memory, [[HesJustHiding and the two characters are still alive somewhere]]. Similarly, the "Now eliminating Prometheus" (aka Robo) scene is either dramatic or a contrived, mean-spirited way of pissing on the fans of the classic game and its characters, especially since none of the characters in-universe even know who he was, but ''Trigger'' players would.

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* BrokenBase: Fans of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' in regards to this game, specifically whether it is a worthy sequel or deserves to wallow in FanonDiscontinuity. Is it an excellent game that brings resolution to the events of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' in a fun and inventive way, or an existentialist piece of crap annoying nonsense with too convoluted a plot, too many characters, and too many unanswered questions? Then there's the things ''Cross'' does to beloved characters from the first game:
** ''Chrono Cross'' players can largely be divided into two groups: those who were shocked and/or outraged upon learning that Crono and Marle had similarly been [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed in the intervening years during the Fall of Guardia]], or those who insist that the Ghost Children aren't their spirits but some sort of manifested memory, [[HesJustHiding and the two characters are still alive somewhere]]. Similarly, the "Now [[spoiler:"Now eliminating Prometheus" (aka Robo) Robo)]] scene is either dramatic or a contrived, mean-spirited way of pissing on the fans of the classic game and its characters, especially since none of the characters in-universe even know who he was, but ''Trigger'' players would.
9th Aug '17 11:39:55 AM crashkey
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** [[spoiler:Lavos being involved in ''everything''. Even with the mention of Chrono Trigger's events, this comes out of nowhere.]] Even more of an AssPull when you considered that two ''separate'' ports of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' had to involve massive retcons to try and make this plot revelation work. [[spoiler:Even then, Lavos' sudden evolution to an unkillable god makes no sense, and comes completely out of nowhere at the end of the game.]]

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** [[spoiler:Lavos being involved in ''everything''. Even with the mention of Chrono Trigger's events, this comes out of nowhere.]] Even more of an AssPull when you considered that two ''separate'' ports of ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' had to involve massive retcons include retroactive additions to try and make this plot revelation work. [[spoiler:Even then, Lavos' sudden evolution to an unkillable god makes no sense, and comes completely out of nowhere at the end of the game.]]
3rd Aug '17 9:37:23 PM Draghinazzo
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** The game's intro is probably one of the most unsettling of any JRPG out there. Imagine getting mysteriously teleported to a different version of your world ''where you died'', and because of that everyone you know is not the same anymore. Nobody believes you are who you say you are, so you might as well be a stranger to everyone you ever knew. Some of the differences are pretty disturbing, like the man who became a fisherman in your world; in the one where you died, his paranoia turned him into a worshipper of a bizarre cat cult. He never leaves his house or interacts with his family, to the point where his daughter thinks her father doesn't love her anymore.
21st Apr '17 5:09:55 PM MagBas
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* InNameOnly: ''Cross'' is indeed a sequel to ''Trigger'', taking place in the same universe, but it's just so far removed from its predecessor that some consider it this.



* LoveItOrHateIt: Barring the game's music, everything. The battle system is generally thought of as fun and unique or needlessly complicated, and the story you will either think is deep and well thought out, or nonsensical, slow.
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