History YMMV / Catwoman

30th Sep '17 9:14:43 AM Cieloazul
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** Catwoman being bisexual in the New 52. Some people believe it was handled well and enjoy Selina's relationship with Eiko, others feel it should have done this with other characters, with larger HomoeroticSubtext and LGBTFanbase.

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** Catwoman being bisexual in the New 52. Some people believe it was handled well and enjoy Selina's relationship with Eiko, others feel it should have done this with other characters, with larger HomoeroticSubtext and LGBTFanbase.LGBTFanbase, in order to avoid the obvious pandering to GirlOnGirlIsHot.



* MisaimedFandom: Ironically, the film was aimed at women to inspire them with a female superhero. Most of the people who watched the film were not female and clearly seeing it for different reasons.

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* MisaimedFandom: Ironically, the film was aimed at women to inspire them with a female superhero. Most of the people who watched the film were not female and clearly seeing it for [[{{Fanservice}} different reasons.]]



* {{Narm}}: The film tries so hard to make an example against sexism (a heroine starring without her usual male counterparts from the comics, a leitmotif about female independence and a mentor who preaches against male academia) that the fact its villains are a ''cosmetics'' corporation that plans to sell ''toxic skin cream'' becomes unintentionally hilarious, if not downright offensive. It makes it look that, after so much effort, the writers still didn't believe a female audience would get into a plot unrelated to stereotypically feminine interests.



* SpecialEffectFailure: Every single scene with the CGI Patience is terrible. And they did a lot of CGI. It was so bad, they caked makeup on Halle Berry's skin in an attempt to make it look as textureless as the CGI version.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: SpecialEffectFailure:
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Every single scene with the CGI Patience is terrible. And they did a lot of CGI. It was so bad, they caked makeup on Halle Berry's skin in an attempt to make it look as textureless as the CGI version.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The film could have had Batman in it, but they chose to have an {{expy}} of him instead.
** The fact that much of the plot of this film had actually been done better already- in the Batman TAS episode ''Feat of Clay''- probably didn't help any because of how poorly those copied elements were handled in this film.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Patience's mentor is a crazy cat lady who claims that her theories about Catwomen warriors were shot down because of...male academia. [[SarcasmMode It's probably not the fact that it'd be hard to believe that dead women can be resurrected by cats into becoming superheroes.]] She never assumed that her theories were shot down because of how she made it sound and instead blames sexism for her troubles.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The film could have had Batman in it, but they chose to have an {{expy}} of him instead.
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instead. The fact that much of the plot of this film had actually been done better already- in the Batman TAS episode ''Feat of Clay''- probably didn't help any because of how poorly those copied elements were handled in this film.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Patience's mentor is a crazy cat lady who claims that her theories about Catwomen warriors were shot down because of... male academia. [[SarcasmMode It's probably not the fact that it'd be hard to believe that dead women can be resurrected by cats into becoming superheroes.]] She never assumed that her theories were shot down because of how she made it sound and instead blames sexism for her troubles.
30th Aug '17 1:02:04 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: A film about Batman's longtime nemesis Catwoman with no Batman in it was bound to be this. Not helping was the film's higher priority on cat-related puns, Halle Berry's sex appeal, and a scheme involving a very dangerous facial cream.



* WTHCostumingDepartment: Halle Berry's rather stripper-esque leather ensemble and enlarged cat ears have been singled out as such by many fans and critics.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Halle Berry's rather stripper-esque leather ensemble and enlarged cat ears have been singled out as such by many fans and critics. The hat in particular was often compared to a Mickey Mouse cap.
4th Jun '17 5:28:29 PM sarysa
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* IdiotBall: The infamous "[[http://comicsalliance.com/files/2011/08/catwoman208.jpg handwriting comparison]]" subplot. Patience and Catwoman's handwriting had minor differences, but to any lay observer (the audience) looks the same. A handwriting expert clears her due to a couple different loops in the lettering.
4th May '17 7:24:40 AM ButterTub
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** The fact that much of the plot of this film had actually been done better already- in the Batman TAS episode ''Feat of Clay''- probably didn't help any because of how poorly those copied elements were handle din this film.

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** The fact that much of the plot of this film had actually been done better already- in the Batman TAS episode ''Feat of Clay''- probably didn't help any because of how poorly those copied elements were handle din handled in this film.
27th Apr '17 10:39:51 AM Lemia
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-->'''Roger Ebert''': There are three good things in it: Halle Berry's face, Halle Berry's body, and Halle Berry's costumes. Those are first-rate. Everything else in this movie is ''unbelievably'' bad.

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-->'''Roger Ebert''': There are three good things in it: ''Catwoman'' is a movie about Halle Berry's face, Halle Berry's body, beauty, sex appeal, figure, eyes, lips and Halle Berry's costumes. Those are first-rate. costume design. It gets those right. Everything else in this movie is ''unbelievably'' bad.secondary, except for the plot, which is tertiary.
16th Feb '17 5:59:06 AM TrueBlue170
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* {{Narm}}: Pretty much the whole thing.
16th Feb '17 5:58:58 AM TrueBlue170
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* {{Narm}}: Pretty much the whole thing.
30th Jan '17 1:42:42 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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** Probably the biggest split in her fandom is between fans of her 90's on-going and fans of the one from 2000's. There are of course fans of both, but you'll rarely hear from them.

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** Probably the biggest split in her fandom is between fans of her 90's on-going ongoing and fans of the one from 2000's. There are of course fans of both, but you'll rarely hear from them.



* DorkAge Depending on whom you ask, either her 90's or 2000's on-going was this. Her New 52 book prior to Genevieve Valentine's run is wildly considered to be one as well.

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* DorkAge Depending on whom you ask, either her 90's or 2000's on-going was this. DorkAge:
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Her New 52 book prior to Genevieve Valentine's run is wildly considered to be one as well.


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* InternetBacklash: "I am Suicide" had the premise that, among other things, Selina Kyle had killed over 200 people and was scheduled to be executed, with Batman being the one who brought her in for the murders. Her fans, and fans of the Bat/Cat ship, were ''not'' amused, with insults and threats being hurled at writer Tom King, and fans were just puzzled on what would lead Selina to kill so many people, even after it was revealed that the people were terrorists who blew up her old orphanage. Funnily enough, while he didn't condone the behaviour, he ''did'' encourage the FanonDiscontinuity and FridgeLogic taking place, as this was the mindset that Batman ''himself'' had, and in fact, [[spoiler: it's revealed she didn't kill anyone; she was covering for Holly Robinson]].
24th Nov '16 8:16:16 AM LondonKdS
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* NewerThanTheyThink: Despite being her iconic outfit, she's only worn a black catsuit in the comics since her redesign by Darwyn Cooke in the early 2000s. Prior to that in the post-Crisis era, she usually wore a purple catsuit, and her Golden Age and Bronze Age versions often wore dresses. However, her ''Series/Batman'' TV incarnations all did wear black leather catsuits, and that probably created the image.

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* NewerThanTheyThink: Despite being her iconic outfit, she's only worn a black catsuit in the comics since her redesign by Darwyn Cooke in the early 2000s. Prior to that in the post-Crisis era, she usually wore a purple catsuit, and her Golden Age and Bronze Age versions often wore dresses. dresses, or leotards over tights. However, her ''Series/Batman'' ''Series/{{Batman}}'' TV incarnations all did wear black leather catsuits, and that probably created the image.
24th Nov '16 8:15:31 AM LondonKdS
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* NewerThanTheyThink: Despite being her iconic outfit, she's only worn a black catsuit in the comics since her redesign by Darwyn Cooke in the early 2000s. Prior to that in the post-Crisis era, she usually wore a purple catsuit, and her Golden Age and Bronze Age versions often wore dresses. However, her ''Series/Batman'' TV incarnations all did wear black leather catsuits, and that probably created the image.
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