History YMMV / CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow

20th Apr '18 4:56:57 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: {{Satan}} is a ManipulativeBastard, operates as TheChessmaster once he appears, and is TheManBehindTheMan to the Lords of Shadow themselves. Satan [[BigBad arranged every atrocity in the game]], from Gabriel Belmont's wife's death at Gabriel's own hands and the deaths of countless innocents, so he could set everything up to return to Heaven and take it over to [[RageAgainstTheHeavens complete his revenge on God]]. When he appears, Satan attempts to eliminate his final pawn, Zobek, and keeps the souls lost on the way [[AndIMustScream trapped in Limbo]]. Satan [[TheCorrupter corrupted]] the [[FallenHero Lords of Shadow]] into becoming the monsters they had become, also making him responsible for all the innocents the werewolves and vampires had devoured. Using Zobek as a proxy and pawn, he manipulated the entire events of the game to gain access to Heaven, with only Gabriel to stand against him at the end. When he faces off with Gabriel, he attempts to paint himself as justified, but Gabriel sees through it, declaring Satan to be the egomaniac he is who seeks domination and hatred over all things.

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* CompleteMonster: {{Satan}} is a ManipulativeBastard, operates as TheChessmaster once he appears, and is TheManBehindTheMan to the Lords of Shadow themselves. Satan [[BigBad arranged every atrocity in the game]], from Gabriel Belmont's wife's death at Gabriel's own hands and the deaths of countless innocents, so he could set everything up to return to Heaven and take it over to [[RageAgainstTheHeavens complete his revenge on God]]. When he appears, Satan attempts to eliminate his final pawn, Zobek, and keeps the souls lost on the way [[AndIMustScream trapped in Limbo]]. Satan [[TheCorrupter corrupted]] the [[FallenHero Lords of Shadow]] into becoming the monsters they had become, also making him responsible for all the innocents the werewolves and vampires had devoured. Using Zobek as a proxy and pawn, he manipulated the entire events of the game to gain access to Heaven, with only Gabriel to stand against him at the end. When he faces off with Gabriel, he attempts to paint himself as justified, but Gabriel sees through it, declaring Satan to be the egomaniac he is who seeks domination and hatred over all things. In [[VideoGame/CastlevaniaLordsOfShadow2 the sequel]], Satan returns in the modern world, casually murdering his summoner -- [[OffingTheOffspring his own son]] -- for [[YouHaveFailedMe not eliminating Dracula and Alucard quick enough]]. Deciding to simply [[OmnicidalManiac destroy the world]], Satan also possesses Alucard to [[SadisticChoice force Dracula to choose between losing his life and killing his own beloved son]].
20th Jun '17 6:42:18 AM 4444jdm
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Virtually everyone including those who normally adore the games, immediately disowned everything that has to do with the soon-to-be-released slot machine game.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Virtually everyone including those who normally adore the games, immediately disowned everything that has to do with the soon-to-be-released [[NoExportForYou Japan-only]] slot machine game.
10th Apr '17 9:33:56 AM Aliya
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Virtually everyone including those who normally dislike the games, immediately disowned everything that has to do with the soon-to-be-released slot machine game.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: Virtually everyone including those who normally dislike adore the games, immediately disowned everything that has to do with the soon-to-be-released slot machine game.
10th Apr '17 9:31:15 AM Aliya
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Virtually everyone including those who normally dislike the games, immediately disowned everything that has to do with the soon-to-be-released slot machine game.
11th Mar '17 12:16:47 PM nombretomado
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* BrokenBase: The split sprang up around the increased emphasis on plot and presentation as well as the more action-based gameplay. Incidentally, these Base-Breaking issues have some uncanny similarities to a few that have sprung up with ''MetroidOtherM'', an installment in the fellow [[TropeNamer Trope Naming]] [[VideoGame/{{Metroid}} franchise]] for {{Metroidvania}} which came out a few months before this game. Both games have had detractors who have lamented each game taking a page from ''Franchise/MetalGear'', in regards to each having longer cutscenes and such.

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* BrokenBase: The split sprang up around the increased emphasis on plot and presentation as well as the more action-based gameplay. Incidentally, these Base-Breaking issues have some uncanny similarities to a few that have sprung up with ''MetroidOtherM'', ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM'', an installment in the fellow [[TropeNamer Trope Naming]] [[VideoGame/{{Metroid}} franchise]] for {{Metroidvania}} which came out a few months before this game. Both games have had detractors who have lamented each game taking a page from ''Franchise/MetalGear'', in regards to each having longer cutscenes and such.
19th Aug '16 10:34:17 AM Etheru
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: After a certain point, it becomes hard to care about Gabriel's journey due to some morally reprehensible actions on his part (his quest to resurrect his beloved Marie doesn't quite excuse them), the CrapsackWorld the characters live in that might actually become ''worse'' if Gabriel continues to defeat the Lords of Shadow, and the fact in the end, [[spoiler:Gabriel's goals are doomed, due to the Brotherhood's manipulations being to make Gabriel into something that could destroy Satan, which [[StartOfDarkness causes Gabriel to become Dracula]].]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: After a certain point, it becomes hard to care about Gabriel's journey due to some morally reprehensible actions on his part (his with his quest to resurrect his beloved Marie doesn't quite failing to become a good excuse them), after a certain point, the CrapsackWorld the characters live in that might actually become ''worse'' if Gabriel continues to defeat the Lords of Shadow, and the fact in the end, [[spoiler:Gabriel's goals are doomed, due to the Brotherhood's manipulations being to make Gabriel into something that could destroy Satan, which [[StartOfDarkness causes Gabriel to become Dracula]].]]
23rd Jul '16 12:54:37 PM Someoneman
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* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper: Played with. A character like this is introduced but after a few missions of annoying you, [[spoiler: she's killed.]]



* MostAnnoyingSound: Claudia's [[StopHelpingMe constant reminders to find the four Crystal Shards]] in Chapter 2-7. It doesn't help that her telepathic voice uses the exact same audio filter as [[VideoGame/{{Fable}} a certain Guildmaster.]]

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* MostAnnoyingSound: Claudia's [[StopHelpingMe [[AnnoyingVideoGameHelper constant reminders to find the four Crystal Shards]] in Chapter 2-7. It doesn't help that her telepathic voice uses the exact same audio filter as [[VideoGame/{{Fable}} a certain Guildmaster.]]



* StopHelpingMe: Played with. A character like this is introduced but after a few missions of annoying you, [[spoiler: she's killed. AndThereWasMuchRejoicing.]]
9th Jul '16 7:07:15 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Gabriel. He's either praised for being the first Belmont in the franchise who isn't a downplayed VanillaProtagonist, or scorned for [[spoiler: becoming ''the'' villain of the games.]]

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Gabriel. He's either praised for being the first Belmont in the franchise who isn't a downplayed VanillaProtagonist, or scorned for [[spoiler: becoming ''the'' villain of the games.]]
14th Jun '16 7:38:38 PM Etheru
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: After a certain point, it becomes hard to care about Gabriel's journey due to some morally reprehensible actions on his part (his quest to resurrect his beloved Marie doesn't quite excuse them), the CrapsackWorld the characters live in that might actually become ''worse'' if Gabriel continues to defeat the Lords of Shadow, and the fact in the end, [[spoiler:Gabriel's goals are doomed, due to the Brotherhood's manipulations being to make Gabriel into something that could destroy Satan, which [[StartOfDarkness causes Gabriel to become Dracula]].]]
31st May '16 10:27:13 AM GunarmDyne
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* ThatOneSidequest: Most of the trials are funny to do. Timed trials, with special mention to the titans's ones and Olrox's one, however, ''are not''.

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* ThatOneSidequest: Most of the trials are funny fun to do. Timed trials, with special mention to the titans's ones and Olrox's one, however, ''are not''.
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