History YMMV / CastlevaniaJudgment

9th Jul '16 7:06:33 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: This game is probably one of the most controversial out of the Castlevania series. Flawed, horribly designed, wannabe-SoulCalibur reject that ruined the franchise? Or a severely underrated classic that, though flawed, is still quite fun to play with, and people are just being too picky?

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* BaseBreaker: BrokenBase: This game is probably one of the most controversial out of the Castlevania series. Flawed, horribly designed, wannabe-SoulCalibur reject that ruined the franchise? Or a severely underrated classic that, though flawed, is still quite fun to play with, and people are just being too picky?



** Though his redesign is quite the BaseBreaker, Grant was still positively received and considered one of the better characters in the cast with the best treatment. This is due to his personality (despite looking like that, he still acts like a laid-back and flippant swashbuckler) and his story being the least ridiculous, as well as being distinct.

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** Though his redesign is quite the BaseBreaker, divisive, Grant was still positively received and considered one of the better characters in the cast with the best treatment. This is due to his personality (despite looking like that, he still acts like a laid-back and flippant swashbuckler) and his story being the least ridiculous, as well as being distinct.
8th Jun '16 4:27:39 AM N8han11
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** The new character that was introduced in this game, Aeon, was also well-received. Part of it is because his design is probably one of the best ones in the game, and his cryptic yet straightforward personality being intriguing. Being the HiddenProtagonist who is also TheChessmaster and TheBigGood also helps.

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** The new character that was introduced in this game, Aeon, was also well-received. Part of it is because his design is probably one of the best ones in the game, and his cryptic yet straightforward personality being intriguing. Being the HiddenProtagonist who is also TheChessmaster and TheBigGood the BigGood also helps.
25th Apr '16 8:26:09 PM Austin
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* CompositeCharacter: Carmilla is a weird mashup of the Carmilla we've seen in earlier ''Castlevania''s and Elizabeth Bathory. Which is doubly odd as Bathory already had an Expy in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaBloodlines''.
15th Mar '16 10:18:50 PM HebiKaze10
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** Grant as well can count. Considering the amount of crap he went through in [[DraculasCurse Dracula's Curse]] (i.e. his whole family, which could ''possibly'' be or include his crew, getting killed off; and getting cursed to be a rampaging demon that was locked in a [[ThatOneLevel clocktower]]); and how different he looks now (which could actually border onto FridgeHorror if you think about it), he also DidNotGetTheGirl. And who did he lose the girl to? His [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter best friend]]. He was so [[LoveHurts jealous and heartbroken]], he didn't even attend their wedding. However, unlike most RomanticRunnerUp characters with Grant's [[DeadpanSnarker personality]] in mind, instead of wishing ill, siding with the bad guys, or try to steal the girl, he instead tries to repair his homeland from all the crap ''that'' got from Dracula and his posse. In fact, we're unaware of Grant's heart being broken until his fated fights where he lets loose, but even then he seems more melancholic and tired than full out angsting, which made him easier to sympathize with. This is very noticeable when he fights Trevor, to which he doesn't even seem angry or upset at him for being able to win Sypha's affections (in fact, most players found themselves hating Sypha and Trevor instead). But after beating Trevor, Grant finally [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wishes good tidings to the couple and moves on]]. Adding that to how he's usually quite chipper, this would probably also make him an IronWoobie.

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** Grant as well can count. Considering the amount of crap he went through in [[DraculasCurse Dracula's Curse]] (i.e. his whole family, which could ''possibly'' be or include his crew, getting killed off; and getting cursed to be a rampaging demon that was locked in a [[ThatOneLevel clocktower]]); and how different he looks now (which could actually border onto FridgeHorror if you think about it), he also DidNotGetTheGirl. And who did he lose the girl to? His [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter best friend]]. He was so [[GreenEyedMonster jealous]] and [[LoveHurts jealous and heartbroken]], he didn't even attend their wedding. However, unlike most RomanticRunnerUp characters with Grant's [[DeadpanSnarker personality]] in mind, instead of wishing ill, siding with the bad guys, or try to steal the girl, he instead tries to repair his homeland from all the crap ''that'' got from Dracula and his posse. In fact, we're unaware of Grant's heart being broken until his fated fights where he lets loose, but even then he seems more melancholic and tired than full out angsting, which made him easier to sympathize with. This is very noticeable when he fights Trevor, to which he doesn't even seem angry or upset at him for being able to win Sypha's affections (in fact, most players found themselves hating Sypha and Trevor instead). But after beating Trevor, Grant finally [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wishes good tidings to the couple and moves on]]. Adding that to how he's usually quite chipper, this would probably also make him an IronWoobie.
15th Mar '16 10:17:48 PM HebiKaze10
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** Grant as well can count. Considering the amount of crap he went through in Dracula's Curse (i.e. his whole family, which could ''possibly'' be or include his crew, getting killed off; and getting cursed to be a rampaging demon that was locked in a [[ThatOneLevel clocktower]]); and how different he looks now (which could actually border onto FridgeHorror if you think about it), he also DidNotGetTheGirl, and who did he lose the girl to? His best friend. He was so jealous and heartbroken, he didn't even attend their wedding. However, unlike most RomanticRunnerUp characters with Grant's personality in mind, instead of wishing ill or siding with the bad guys, he tries to repair his homeland from all the crap ''that'' got from Dracula and his posse. In fact, we're unaware of Grant's heart being broken until his fated fights where he lets loose, but even then he seems more melancholic and tired than full out angsting, which made players sympathize with him. This is very noticeable when he fights Trevor, to which he doesn't even seem angry or upset at him for getting the girl (in fact, most players found themselves hating Sypha and Trevor instead). But after beating him, he finally [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wishes good tidings to the couple and moves on]]. Adding that to how he's usually quite chipper, this would probably also make him an IronWoobie.

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** Grant as well can count. Considering the amount of crap he went through in [[DraculasCurse Dracula's Curse Curse]] (i.e. his whole family, which could ''possibly'' be or include his crew, getting killed off; and getting cursed to be a rampaging demon that was locked in a [[ThatOneLevel clocktower]]); and how different he looks now (which could actually border onto FridgeHorror if you think about it), he also DidNotGetTheGirl, and DidNotGetTheGirl. And who did he lose the girl to? His [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter best friend. friend]]. He was so [[LoveHurts jealous and heartbroken, heartbroken]], he didn't even attend their wedding. However, unlike most RomanticRunnerUp characters with Grant's personality [[DeadpanSnarker personality]] in mind, instead of wishing ill or ill, siding with the bad guys, or try to steal the girl, he instead tries to repair his homeland from all the crap ''that'' got from Dracula and his posse. In fact, we're unaware of Grant's heart being broken until his fated fights where he lets loose, but even then he seems more melancholic and tired than full out angsting, which made players him easier to sympathize with him. with. This is very noticeable when he fights Trevor, to which he doesn't even seem angry or upset at him for getting the girl being able to win Sypha's affections (in fact, most players found themselves hating Sypha and Trevor instead). But after beating him, he Trevor, Grant finally [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wishes good tidings to the couple and moves on]]. Adding that to how he's usually quite chipper, this would probably also make him an IronWoobie.
15th Mar '16 10:12:09 PM HebiKaze10
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* RonTheDeathEater: Though not hugely grossed out or highly exaggerated compared to other characters (thankfully due to other games featuring him not being like this), Trevor gets a lot of flak and is accused of being an asshole for what he says to Grant in Grant's story mode. Players felt that Trevor wasn't being fair to Grant by accusing him of feeling himself worthier for Sypha...despite the fact that considering Grant's tone and posture (he sounded sad, tired and his head is bowed down), that might not have even been the case, and instead of challenging him to a fight, players felt that Trevor should've just talked to Grant to sort things out. Especially jarring since they're supposed to be best friends (though some can justify it's because back in the era where Trevor and Grant lived in, this was probably one way to settle things out). Players have also felt that by the end of Grant's story, it's not Grant who broke apart their friendship, but Trevor himself, and that it was better that Grant distance himself away from the two things that made him miserable (even though Grant ''did'' skip out from their wedding from his own free will due to his own jealousy and heartbreak).
* TheScrappy: This incarnation of Eric is ''really'' hated due to him being a smug and arrogant child who thinks he's superior to others. A lot of fans were also angry at this incarnation due to questioning ''why'' Eric Lecarde should even be a child in the first place. However, it seems that even the characters in-game disapprove of Eric and his arrogance, as Alucard firmly tells him off that the lance was only meant to accompany the whip, not be superior to it. Even ''[[BigGood Aeon]]'' takes a jab at Eric in his Hyper Attack against him.

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* RonTheDeathEater: Though not hugely grossed out or highly exaggerated compared to other characters (thankfully due to other games featuring him not being like this), Trevor gets a lot of flak and is accused of being an a self-righteous asshole for what he says to Grant in Grant's story mode. Players felt that Trevor wasn't being fair to Grant by accusing him of feeling himself worthier for Sypha...despite the fact that considering Grant's tone and posture (he sounded sad, tired and his head is bowed down), that might not have even been the case, and instead of challenging him to a fight, players felt that Trevor should've just talked to Grant to sort things out. Especially jarring since they're supposed to be best friends (though some can justify it's because back in the era where Trevor and Grant lived in, this was probably one way to settle things out). Players have also felt that by the end of Grant's story, it's not Grant who broke apart their friendship, but Trevor himself, and that it was better that Grant distance himself away from the two things that made him miserable (even though Grant ''did'' skip out from their wedding from of his own free will due to his own jealousy and heartbreak).
resentment that he DidNotGetTheGirl).
* TheScrappy: This incarnation of Eric is ''really'' hated due to him being a [[BrattyHalfPint smug and arrogant child child]] who thinks he's superior to others. A lot of fans were also angry at this incarnation due to questioning ''why'' Eric Lecarde should even be a child in the first place. However, it seems that even the characters in-game disapprove of Eric and his arrogance, as Alucard firmly tells him off that the lance was only meant to accompany the whip, not be superior to it. Even ''[[BigGood Aeon]]'' takes a jab at Eric in his Hyper Attack against him.



** Sypha is also ''really'' hated in this game due to being an uptight Hypocrite who claims she is doing goodness by eliminating all Children of the Night, yet in the same vein, she does not seem to care or acknowledge that some of those characters have good intentions and have nothing to do with Dracula (even going ''against'' him). What doesn't help her case is that the characters she antagonizes are [[EnsembleDarkhorse Cornell]] and Shanoa, who are far more well-liked than her. Even ''[[TheVamp Carmilla]]'' calls her out on her hypocrisy.

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** Sypha is also ''really'' hated in this game due to being an uptight Hypocrite [[HypoCrite hypocrite]] who claims she is doing goodness by eliminating all Children of the Night, yet in the same vein, she does not seem to care or acknowledge that [[DarkIsNotEvil some of those characters have good intentions and have nothing to do with Dracula (even going ''against'' him).him)]]. What doesn't help her case is that the characters she antagonizes are [[EnsembleDarkhorse Cornell]] and Shanoa, who are far more well-liked than her. Even ''[[TheVamp Carmilla]]'' even calls her out on her hypocrisy.hypocrisy.
*** What also doesn't help Sypha's case is that Shanoa is also part of the church. So technically, they're on the same side. Which basically means that she really is a huge [[HypoCrite hypocrite]].



** Grant as well can count. Considering the amount of crap he went through in Dracula's Curse (i.e. his whole family, which could ''possibly'' be or include his crew, getting killed off; and getting cursed to be a rampaging demon that was locked in a [[ThatOneLevel clocktower]]); and how different he looks now (which could actually border onto FridgeHorror if you think about it), he also DidNotGetTheGirl, and who did he lose the girl to? His best friend. He was so jealous and heartbroken, he didn't even attend their wedding. However, unlike most RomanticRunnerUp characters with Grant's personality in mind, instead of wishing ill or siding with the bad guys, he tries to repair his homeland from all the crap ''that'' got from Dracula and his posse. In fact, we're unaware of Grant's heart being broken until his fated fights where he lets loose, but even then he seems more melancholic and tired than full out angsting, which made players sympathize with him. This is very noticeable when he fights Trevor, to which he doesn't even seem angry or upset at him for getting the girl (in fact, most players found themselves hating Sypha and Trevor instead). But after beating him, he finally [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wishes good tidings to the couple and moves on]], which would probably also make him an IronWoobie.

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** Grant as well can count. Considering the amount of crap he went through in Dracula's Curse (i.e. his whole family, which could ''possibly'' be or include his crew, getting killed off; and getting cursed to be a rampaging demon that was locked in a [[ThatOneLevel clocktower]]); and how different he looks now (which could actually border onto FridgeHorror if you think about it), he also DidNotGetTheGirl, and who did he lose the girl to? His best friend. He was so jealous and heartbroken, he didn't even attend their wedding. However, unlike most RomanticRunnerUp characters with Grant's personality in mind, instead of wishing ill or siding with the bad guys, he tries to repair his homeland from all the crap ''that'' got from Dracula and his posse. In fact, we're unaware of Grant's heart being broken until his fated fights where he lets loose, but even then he seems more melancholic and tired than full out angsting, which made players sympathize with him. This is very noticeable when he fights Trevor, to which he doesn't even seem angry or upset at him for getting the girl (in fact, most players found themselves hating Sypha and Trevor instead). But after beating him, he finally [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy wishes good tidings to the couple and moves on]], which on]]. Adding that to how he's usually quite chipper, this would probably also make him an IronWoobie.
15th Mar '16 10:04:53 PM HebiKaze10
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*** This game's version of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naJAtE3zpiI Clockwork]] is also a really great revamp of the original tune. More orchestral sounding, however with the fast tempo and soaring crescendo, it truly describes Grant in a nutshell. A FragileSpeedster who, though a DeadpanSnarker, can be deadly when serious.

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*** This game's version of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naJAtE3zpiI Clockwork]] is also a really great revamp of the original tune. More orchestral sounding, however with the fast tempo and soaring crescendo, it truly describes Grant in a nutshell. A flashy FragileSpeedster who, though a DeadpanSnarker, can be deadly when serious.
15th Mar '16 10:02:58 PM HebiKaze10
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*** Of all the designs that are quite Base Breaking, Grant's design is this the most. Though initially highly disliked for looking like a [[SoulCalibur Voldo]] ripoff and less like a pirate - particularly citing he looks like a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot mummy ninja]]. However, some fans have gotten used to and even warmed up to Grant's new design - citing that Grant's old design was generic, and this new one made him far more distinguishable as a character. They also point out two factors which explain why Grant looks the way he is: that being he was pulled from ''after'' his debut, so he could've either gone through a lot of hardships after the events of Dracula's Curse; or just get beaten badly by Dracula himself during said game he debuted in. Another argument defenders use (though rare) is that in the original Japanese, Grant was classed as a ''former'' pirate captain, but was now currently a rebel, a noble thief and an acrobat, so it's fair game for the character designer to do what they wanted with his design.

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*** Of all the designs that are quite Base Breaking, Grant's design is this the most. Though initially highly disliked for looking like a [[SoulCalibur Voldo]] ripoff and less like a pirate - particularly citing he looks like a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot mummy ninja]]. However, some fans have gotten used to and even warmed up to Grant's new design - citing that Grant's old design was generic, and this new one looked BadAss and made him far more distinguishable as a character. They also point out two factors which explain why Grant looks the way he is: that being he was pulled from ''after'' his debut, so he could've either gone through a lot of hardships after the events of Dracula's Curse; or just get beaten badly by Dracula himself during said game he debuted in. Another argument defenders use (though rare) is that in the original Japanese, Grant was classed as a ''former'' pirate captain, but was now currently a rebel, a noble thief and an acrobat, so it's fair game for the character designer to do what they wanted with his design.
10th Mar '16 3:56:40 PM HebiKaze10
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* FridgeBrilliance: One of the biggest complaints from fans was that [[VideoGameAriaOfSorrow Soma Cruz]] wasn't part of the roster. However, if one plays through the game, they'd realize ''why'' that can't be possible. [[spoiler: Soma is the reincarnation of Dracula, and Dracula is already part of the roster. Aeon decreed that no two of the same being can be in the Time Rift or else something bad will happen.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: One of the biggest complaints from fans was that [[VideoGameAriaOfSorrow [[ChroniclesOfSorrow Soma Cruz]] wasn't part of the roster. However, if one plays through the game, they'd realize ''why'' that can't be possible. [[spoiler: Soma is the reincarnation of Dracula, and Dracula is already part of the roster. Aeon decreed that no two of the same being can be in the Time Rift or else something bad will happen.]]
10th Mar '16 3:55:59 PM HebiKaze10
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* FridgeBrilliance: One of the biggest complaints from fans was that [[VideoGameAriaOfSorrow Soma Cruz]] wasn't part of the roster. However, if one plays through the game, they'd realize ''why'' that can't be possible. [[Spoiler: Soma is the reincarnation of Dracula, and Dracula is already part of the roster. Aeon decreed that no two of the same being can be in the Time Rift or else something bad will happen.]]

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* FridgeBrilliance: One of the biggest complaints from fans was that [[VideoGameAriaOfSorrow Soma Cruz]] wasn't part of the roster. However, if one plays through the game, they'd realize ''why'' that can't be possible. [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: Soma is the reincarnation of Dracula, and Dracula is already part of the roster. Aeon decreed that no two of the same being can be in the Time Rift or else something bad will happen.]]
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