History YMMV / BuffyTheVampireSlayer

11th Sep '17 6:57:28 PM SamMax
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* AdaptationDisplacement: The film has faded into almost complete obscurity and is today remembered pretty much only for being adapted into the series. Some fans of the series probably weren't even aware that a movie was made. Few have seen the movie. Whedon considers his script -- not the film that was actually made -- to be canon.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: The film has faded into almost complete obscurity and is today remembered pretty much only for being adapted into the series. Some fans of the series probably weren't even aware that a movie was made. Few have seen the movie. Whedon considers his script -- not the film that was actually made -- to be canon.canon, making this one of the few ''intentional'' examples of this trope.
5th Sep '17 6:14:11 PM kyeo
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** Xander, either the lovable ButtMonkey and [[TheHeart Heart of the Slayer Machine]], or a hypocritical jerk who is way too judgmental of Buffy whenever she screws up, especially in regards to Angel and Spike -- or any other guy she's interested in, for that matter, even when it's none of his business.

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** Xander, either the lovable ButtMonkey and [[TheHeart Heart of the Slayer Machine]], or a hypocritical jerk who is way too judgmental of Buffy whenever she screws up, especially in regards to Angel and Spike -- or any other guy she's interested in, for that matter, even when it's none of his business. There's also some debate as to whether his preoccupation with sex is just a normal teenage straight guy's disposition or a creepy lecherous quality.
13th Aug '17 8:31:33 PM randomguy399
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** [[Creator/JossWhedon Joss]] first realized that Creator/DavidBoreanaz could carry [[Series/{{Angel}} his own show]] after being wowed by his performance in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS2E19IOnlyHaveEyesForYou}} I Only Have Eyes For You]]". In addition, fans who were still skeptical about DB's acting ability up to that point also changed their minds after seeing him play [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angelus]], which was a complete 180 from the brooding, lover-boy Angel we were used to.

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** [[Creator/JossWhedon Joss]] first realized that Creator/DavidBoreanaz could carry [[Series/{{Angel}} his own show]] after being wowed by his performance in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS2E19IOnlyHaveEyesForYou}} I Only Have Eyes For You]]". In addition, fans who were still skeptical about DB's Boreanaz's acting ability up to that point also changed their minds after seeing him play [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Angelus]], which was a complete 180 from the brooding, lover-boy Angel we they were used to.



** Angelus, anyone?



* MemeticLoser: Xander Harris. The man shall always be [[ButtMonkey 'The Zeppo']] of the Scooby Gang, one of the guys who [[Creator/JossWhedon Whedon]] goes above and beyond the call of duty [[SignatureStyle of]] [[DeusAngstMachina putting through the wringer]]. The fact that his [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moments Of Awesome]] are (for the most part) talking his way to victory (ex. bluffing a MadBomber zombie into running away on "The Zeppo", [[BavarianFireDrill getting]] [[NoManOfWomanBorn the]] [[StuffBlowingUp rocket]] [[MugglesDoItBetter launcher]] to destroy [[TheJuggernaut The Judge]], [[CooldownHug confronting]] [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide DarkSide]]!Willow when [[PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery she decides to wipe out the planet]]) rather than beat the hell out of the bad guy doesn't help. If anything, fanfic attempts to [[TookALevelInBadass give him a level in badass]] tend to [[PossessionSue go the other way]].



* {{Narm}}:
** The occasional instance of FightSceneFailure in the early seasons. Also, the SpecialEffectFailure with the Mayor's Ascension in the Season 3 finale.

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{{Narm}}: The occasional instance of FightSceneFailure in the early seasons. Also, the SpecialEffectFailure with the Mayor's Ascension in the Season 3 finale.finale, though the high stakes and buildup to the scene make it NarmCharm in a way.



** Her replacement Kennedy achieves this in season nine, where she suddenly becomes cool. She sets up a bodyguard agency and offers Buffy work, her personality is less about how gay and selfish she is and with Willow gone for the time acts the way she thinks her ex would. [[CrazyPrepared Loading up on guns, grenades and a sword for corporate terrorism doesn't hurt either.]]



** [[BrokenBase Depending on who you ask]], Kennedy achieves this in season nine, where she suddenly becomes cool. She sets up a bodyguard agency and offers Buffy work, her personality is less about how gay and selfish she is and with Willow gone for the time acts the way she thinks her ex would. [[CrazyPrepared Loading up on guns, grenades and a sword for corporate terrorism doesn't hurt either.]]



** For Willow/Kennedy in season 7, the writers didn't even try at all. Literally the only reason they start a relationship is because Kennedy is also a lesbian, and Kennedy seems determined to not have any likable traits whatsoever. It's a huge letdown after Willow and Tara's relationship, which out of the whole show had the most build-up and most development.

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** For Willow/Kennedy in season 7, the writers didn't even try at all.Willow and Kennedy. Literally the only reason they start a relationship is because Kennedy is also a lesbian, and Kennedy seems determined to not have any likable traits whatsoever. It's a huge letdown after Willow and Tara's relationship, which out of the whole show had arguably the most build-up and most development.
13th Aug '17 8:09:52 PM randomguy399
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13th Aug '17 8:09:51 PM randomguy399
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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Amilyn, mostly for his death scene and for being played by Pee-Wee Herman himself, Creator/PaulReubens.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Amilyn, mostly for his death scene and for being played by Pee-Wee Herman himself, Creator/PaulReubens.
7th Aug '17 8:47:25 AM highwaystonowhere
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24th Jun '17 12:03:03 PM moonypadfootprongs
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** For Buffy's seventeenth birthday, Angel gives her a claddagh ring, which in his words are "exchanged as a sign of devotion." Anyone familiar with Irish/Gaelic culture knows that claddagh rings [specifically rings worn in the style that Angel has Buffy wear hers' (on the left hand with the heart pointed inward)] are actually marriage rings. Uhhhh Does Buffy know about this?
10th Jun '17 2:24:03 PM moonypadfootprongs
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** Xander is this to some fans, who find him to be a bit of a self-righteous hypocrite who never gets called out for his behavior.
10th Jun '17 2:14:57 PM moonypadfootprongs
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** Also, Poor Riley, who was introduced right after Angel and Buffy's devastating breakup and right as Spike/Buffy was really taking off.


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* RonTheDeathEater: Read a Buffy/Angel fic that takes place sometime during seasons 4 or 5, and watch as poor Riley is transformed from good-hearted albeit milquetoast boyfriend to girlfriend beating rapist
10th Jun '17 1:53:07 PM moonypadfootprongs
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** For Buffy's seventeenth birthday, Angel gives her a claddagh ring, which in his words are "exchanged as a sign of devotion." Anyone familiar with Irish/Gaelic culture knows that claddagh rings [specifically rings worn in the style that Angel has Buffy wear hers' (on the left hand with the heart pointed inward)] are actually marriage rings. Uhhhh Does Buffy know about this?
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