History YMMV / BreakingBad

20th Mar '17 1:13:45 AM TywinIsGod
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** Who is Gus Fring really? And we're not talking about his background in Chile here. Is he a [[BadBoss ruthless drug kingpin]] or a [[BenevolentBoss reasonable boss in the drug trade]]? Mike seems to think the latter, and he angrily tells Walt that everything would have been fine if he just did what he was told. The rival drug dealers may or may not have murdered Tomas Cantillo under orders, but what does it say about Gus that he left hazard pay for his employees in the event that he dies and they are sent to prison? Or even the fact that Gus invites employees over for dinner at his own house? They say that maybe there's a line: perhaps Gus is perfectly fine with those that follow orders and entirely overly cautious or even homicidal towards those that canít be trusted to follow orders.

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** Who is Gus Fring really? And we're not talking about his background in Chile here. Is he a [[BadBoss ruthless drug kingpin]] or a [[BenevolentBoss relatively reasonable boss in the drug trade]]? Mike seems to think the latter, and he angrily tells Walt that everything would have been fine if he just did what he was told. The rival drug dealers may or may not have murdered Tomas Cantillo under orders, but what does it say about Gus that he left hazard pay for his employees in the event that he dies and they are sent to prison? Or even the fact that Gus invites employees over for dinner at his own house? They say that maybe there's a line: [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure perhaps Gus is perfectly fine with those that follow orders and entirely overly cautious or even homicidal towards those that canít be trusted to follow orders.orders]].
14th Mar '17 11:04:27 PM 43110
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** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler:[[HeroKiller Jack later kills]] [[CopKiller DEA agents]] [[HeroKiller Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez]] with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]] and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure under threat of murdering his loved ones]]; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that [[WouldHurtAChild Brock will be next]] if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]

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** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler:[[HeroKiller Jack later kills]] [[CopKiller kills DEA agents]] [[HeroKiller agents Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez]] Gomez with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]] enslaved and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure under threat of murdering his loved ones]]; ones; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that [[WouldHurtAChild Brock will be next]] next if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]
2nd Mar '17 5:21:39 PM mlsmithca
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* SoCoolItsAwesome: "Ozymandias" is almost universally regarded, by critics and audiences alike, as the crowning achievement of the series. Critics have referred to it as one of the greatest episodes of television ever aired and on Website/IMDb, it eventually achieved a perfect 10/10 from over 70,000 votes. (It did drop to a 9.9/10 for a while, but it's back to 10 following a crackdown on troll voters.)
** Really, the entire show can count as this. It's considered one of the greatest television series ever made, with ratings only going ''higher'' with each season, and ended with a powerful legacy that will take its place in entertainment history.
25th Feb '17 10:52:30 AM stuffedninja
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* {{Narm}}: When Walter yells/raises his voice, it earns some snickers due to the snarl he uses when yelling.

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When Walter yells/raises his voice, it earns some snickers due to the snarl he uses when yelling.


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** Some scenes from earlier seasons have gone down in history as the cringiest of the whole show; the two top contenders are [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GiCz7nPsU Skyler singing a Marilyn Monroe-style rendition of "Happy Birthday" to Ted]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt8B4ZMvJIU Skyler giving Walt a handjob for his birthday]].
17th Jan '17 6:39:58 PM Luigifan
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** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler: [[HeroKiller Jack later kills]] [[CopKiller DEA agents]] [[HeroKiller Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez]] with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]] and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure under threat of murdering his loved ones]]; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that [[WouldHurtAChild Brock will be next]] if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]

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** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler: [[HeroKiller [[spoiler:[[HeroKiller Jack later kills]] [[CopKiller DEA agents]] [[HeroKiller Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez]] with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]] and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure under threat of murdering his loved ones]]; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that [[WouldHurtAChild Brock will be next]] if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]



** Jesse also gets a good deal of DracoInLeatherPants from people- apparently, realizing that you're a bad guy but continuing to cook meth and doing bad things that aren't as bad as the other criminals you work with makes you a good person. Actually discussed in-episode: when Jesse wants out of the operation with his cut of the money, Walt points out that it's still drug money he'd be taking and asks why he would want it if he's [[LampshadeHanging "so pure, with such emotional depth."]]

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** Jesse also gets a good deal of DracoInLeatherPants from people- people -- apparently, realizing that you're a bad guy but continuing to cook meth and doing bad things that aren't as bad as the other criminals you work with makes you a good person. Actually discussed in-episode: when Jesse wants out of the operation with his cut of the money, Walt points out that it's still drug money he'd be taking and asks why he would want it if he's [[LampshadeHanging "so pure, with such emotional depth."]]



** Mike is the biggest example of this, for his gruff-but-likable demeanor and sheer badassitude and rising from a bit part in the second season to become one of the most important characters on the show [[spoiler: at the time of his death.]] This also got him a role as a regular in ''Series/BetterCallSaul''.

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** Mike is the biggest example of this, for his gruff-but-likable demeanor and sheer badassitude and rising from a bit part in the second season to become one of the most important characters on the show [[spoiler: at [[spoiler:at the time of his death.]] death]]. This also got him a role as a regular in ''Series/BetterCallSaul''.



* EscapistCharacter: Deconstructed with Walt- he initially starts out as this, as the audience cheers while he breaks out of his tedious existence and lives life on his own terms. But this recklessness gets a load of innocent people killed and his family ends up in shambles because of his illegal activities. Things only go FromBadToWorse as the series goes on.

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* EscapistCharacter: Deconstructed with Walt- Walt -- he initially starts out as this, as the audience cheers while he breaks out of his tedious existence and lives life on his own terms. But this recklessness gets a load of innocent people killed and his family ends up in shambles because of his illegal activities. Things only go FromBadToWorse as the series goes on.



* FashionVictimVillain: Saul

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* FashionVictimVillain: SaulSaul.



** In one episode of season 2, Jesse tries to surprise Jane by cooking breakfast while she sleeps in. She gets up before he finishes, however, which causes Jesse to say "You weren't supposed to get up." Jane jokingly asks "What, ever?" A few episodes later Jane dies in her sleep.
** One of Jesse's insults to Walt is "Heil Hitler, bitch." It comes back to bite him when he [[spoiler: gets enslaved by Neo-Nazis.]]

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** In one episode of season 2, Jesse tries to surprise Jane by cooking breakfast while she sleeps in. She gets up before he finishes, however, which causes Jesse to say "You weren't supposed to get up." Jane jokingly asks "What, ever?" A few episodes later later, Jane dies in her sleep.
** One of Jesse's insults to Walt is "Heil Hitler, bitch." It comes back to bite him when he [[spoiler: gets [[spoiler:gets enslaved by Neo-Nazis.]]Neo-Nazis]].



*** In one episode, Skyler skeptically looks over Saul's degree from the University of American Samoa, which is PlayedForLaughs, a way of emphasizing what a tacky and fraudulent lawyer Saul is. Knowing the struggle, the heartache and the eventual betrayal related to that degree from ''Better Call Saul'' will undoubtedly make that scene much less funny on future viewings.

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*** In one episode, Skyler skeptically looks over Saul's degree from the University of American Samoa, which is PlayedForLaughs, a way of emphasizing what a tacky and fraudulent lawyer Saul is. Knowing the struggle, the heartache heartache, and the eventual betrayal related to that degree from ''Better Call Saul'' will undoubtedly make that scene much less funny on future viewings.



** Badger's Franchise/StarTrek script (which ends with Chekov [[spoiler: [[BlackComedy getting brutally killed by accident]]]]) loses all of its humor after [[Film/StarTrek his current actor]], Creator/AntonYelchin's brutal death in 2016, which was ruled as an "accident".

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** Badger's Franchise/StarTrek script (which ends with Chekov [[spoiler: [[BlackComedy [[spoiler:[[BlackComedy getting brutally killed by accident]]]]) loses all of its humor after [[Film/StarTrek his current actor]], Creator/AntonYelchin's brutal death in 2016, which was ruled as an "accident".



** The air disaster in the Season 2 final has some similarities to the 1986 Cerritos disaster, when an Aeromexico jet and a private plane collided over the skies near Los Angeles International Airport. The air traffic controller monitoring the two flights was named ''Walter White''. The sole difference is that 15 people in houses were killed when Aeromexico Flight 498 slammed into a residential neighborhood.

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** The air disaster in the Season 2 final finale has some similarities to the 1986 Cerritos disaster, when an Aeromexico jet and a private plane collided over the skies near Los Angeles International Airport. The air traffic controller monitoring the two flights was named ''Walter White''. The sole difference is that 15 people in houses were killed when Aeromexico Flight 498 slammed into a residential neighborhood.



** The second season features Jane Margolis's father, an air traffic controller, suffering from depression, showing up to work obviously unfit, and he causes a mid-air collision with numerous fatalities. In 2015, the clinically depressed pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525 deliberately crashed his plane into the side of a mountain in France, killing 150 people, - although the ''Breaking Bad'' incident was an accident caused by a depressed air traffic controller, whereas the latter was intentionally done by a pilot.

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** The second season features Jane Margolis's father, an air traffic controller, suffering from depression, showing up to work obviously unfit, and he causes a mid-air collision with numerous fatalities. In 2015, the clinically depressed pilot of Germanwings Flight 9525 deliberately crashed his plane into the side of a mountain in France, killing 150 people, - people -- although the ''Breaking Bad'' incident was an accident caused by a depressed air traffic controller, whereas the latter was intentionally done by a pilot.



* HesJustHiding: Some viewers want to believe that [[spoiler:Lydia and Walt survived "Felina", reasoning that Lydia was given fair warning of her poisoning and Walt was found by the police seconds after collapsing, giving them both time to be treated.]] However, WordOfGod says that both are dead. And the chances of their survival were very low in the first place. In fact, the script makes it clear that Walt died.

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* HesJustHiding: Some viewers want to believe that [[spoiler:Lydia and Walt survived "Felina", reasoning that Lydia was given fair warning of her poisoning and Walt was found by the police seconds after collapsing, giving them both time to be treated.]] treated]]. However, WordOfGod says that both are dead. And the chances of their survival were very low in the first place. In fact, the script makes it clear that Walt died.



** In the first season Jesse and his actor, Aaron Paul, received a bit of a mixed reception with many feeling that it was going to go the route of the cliche stoner gangster-wannabe. Aaron Paul blew that prediction out of the water in season two, and continued to turn in progressively more impressive and jaw-dropping performances as the show went on, eventually winning three Emmy awards, breaking the category's record (at least among purely dramatic performances). Some even believe that his performance rivals or exceeds Bryan Cranston's.

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** In the first season season, Jesse and his actor, Aaron Paul, received a bit of a mixed reception with many feeling that it was going to go the route of the cliche stoner gangster-wannabe. Aaron Paul blew that prediction out of the water in season two, and continued to turn in progressively more impressive and jaw-dropping performances as the show went on, eventually winning three Emmy awards, breaking the category's record (at least among purely dramatic performances). Some even believe that his performance rivals or exceeds Bryan Cranston's.



** On August 16th, 2012, the Tuscaloosa County, Alabama Sheriff's Office announced its new Most Wanted Fugitive as [[http://crime.blogs.tuscaloosanews.com/12950/walter-white-wanted-for-making-methamphetamine/?tc=ar a meth cook named Walter White]]. This sort of crime would ordinarily be local news had it not been for the coincidence of the schmuck's name. Ironically, the Alabama Walter White's blue collar operation that was a lot less sophisticated than New Mexico's Walter White.

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** On August 16th, 2012, the Tuscaloosa County, Alabama Sheriff's Office announced its new Most Wanted Fugitive as [[http://crime.blogs.tuscaloosanews.com/12950/walter-white-wanted-for-making-methamphetamine/?tc=ar a meth cook named Walter White]]. This sort of crime would ordinarily be local news had it not been for the coincidence of the schmuck's name. Ironically, the Alabama Walter White's blue collar operation that was a lot less sophisticated than New Mexico's Walter White.



** In the 2006 movie ''LittleMissSunshine'', Bryan Cranston and Dean Norris have brief, unrelated appearances where Cranston plays an obnoxious business man while Norris plays a cop.

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** In the 2006 movie ''LittleMissSunshine'', Bryan Cranston and Dean Norris have brief, unrelated appearances where Cranston plays an obnoxious business man businessman while Norris plays a cop.



** In "Fly", Jesse gets annoyed at Walt for calling the titular insect in their lab a "contamination" he tells Walt he thought it was something more serious like an Ebola virus. Walt finds Jesse's example to be absurd and asks "what would a West African virus be doing in [the] lab?" There actually was a minor Ebola outbreak in the United States in 2014, very few people were affected but it got a lot of media coverage and generated a lot of fear and paranoia.

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** In "Fly", Jesse gets annoyed at Walt for calling the titular insect in their lab a "contamination" he tells Walt he thought it was something more serious like an Ebola virus. Walt finds Jesse's example to be absurd and asks "what would a West African virus be doing in [the] lab?" There actually was a minor Ebola outbreak in the United States in 2014, 2014; very few people were affected but it got a lot of media coverage and generated a lot of fear and paranoia.



** Los Pollos Hermanos smuggles drugs inside marked buckets of fry batter. [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/12/drugs-hidden-in-nacho-cheese_n_1143879.html?ncid=txtlnkushuff00000001 While it's not fry batter, some smugglers have been caught trying to use nacho cheese to the same effect]].

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** Los Pollos Hermanos smuggles drugs inside marked buckets of fry batter. [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/12/drugs-hidden-in-nacho-cheese_n_1143879.html?ncid=txtlnkushuff00000001 While it's not fry batter, some smugglers have been caught trying to use nacho cheese to the same effect]].effect.]]



** As said when Walt Jr. reveals that Hank gave him a book about the agents who caught Pablo Escobar, everyone knows about Escobar but not the agents who helped bring him down. Come 2015, ''Series/{{Narcos}}'' would air on Netflix (The same service responsible for greatly raising BB's profile).

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** As said when Walt Jr. reveals that Hank gave him a book about the agents who caught Pablo Escobar, everyone knows about Escobar but not the agents who helped bring him down. Come 2015, ''Series/{{Narcos}}'' would air on Netflix (The (the same service responsible for greatly raising BB's profile).



** Averted. [[spoiler:Many assumed Hank and Gomez were safe after the cliffhanger in "To'hajille", believing that if they were going to be killed off it would be at the end of an episode rather than at the beginning. Boy, were they wrong.]]

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** Averted. [[spoiler:Many assumed Hank and Gomez were safe after the cliffhanger in "To'hajille", believing that if they were going to be killed off off, it would be at the end of an episode rather than at the beginning. Boy, were they wrong.]]



** Skyler, to a lesser extent, for those who see her as an Anti-Hero rather than TheScrappy
** Walt to those who don't strap him in leather pants

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** Skyler, to a lesser extent, for those who see her as an Anti-Hero rather than TheScrappy
TheScrappy.
** Walt to those who don't strap him in leather pantspants.



** Gus is charismatic, powerful, confident, and utterly ruthless. Most of Season 4 is him executing a grand overarching plan using Walt and Jesse, and he pulls it off flawlessly. [[spoiler:Walt is ultimately only able to kill him by means of the one person Gus lets his guard down around, Gus is otherwise untouchable.]]

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** Gus is charismatic, powerful, confident, and utterly ruthless. Most of Season 4 is him executing a grand overarching plan using Walt and Jesse, and he pulls it off flawlessly. [[spoiler:Walt is ultimately only able to kill him by means of the one person Gus lets his guard down around, around: Gus is otherwise untouchable.]]



** WordOfGod is that the moment that Walt crossed it is when he refused to let Gretchen and Eliot pay for his treatment and went back to cooking meth instead, letting his pride dictate his judgment rather than take the extremely generous and well intentioned offer. Among fans and critics, the most common deeds brought up as candidates for the trope are the mentioned money refusal, allowing Jane to die, arranging and ordering Gale's death, and [[spoiler:poisoning Brock]].

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** WordOfGod is that the moment that Walt crossed it is when he refused to let Gretchen and Eliot pay for his treatment and went back to cooking meth instead, letting his pride dictate his judgment rather than take the extremely generous and well intentioned well-intentioned offer. Among fans and critics, the most common deeds brought up as candidates for the trope are the mentioned money refusal, allowing Jane to die, arranging and ordering Gale's death, and [[spoiler:poisoning Brock]].



** Hector Salamanca crossed this years ago, killing Gus' business partner and sadistically forcing Gus to watch his dead body bleed out as Don Eladio taunts him.

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** Hector Salamanca crossed this years ago, killing Gus' business partner and sadistically forcing Gus to watch his dead body bleed out as Don Eladio taunts taunted him.



** Becky, the White's neighbor whom Walt uses [[MoralEventHorizon to unknowingly lure out the mooks]] in Season 4's finale.
** Trent, the waiter who tries to serve the White and the Schrader's [[spoiler: during an extremely heated discussion regarding Walt's crimes.]]

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** Becky, the White's Whites' neighbor whom Walt uses [[MoralEventHorizon to unknowingly lure out the mooks]] in Season 4's finale.
** Trent, the waiter who tries to serve the White and the Schrader's [[spoiler: during Schraders [[spoiler:during an extremely heated discussion regarding Walt's crimes.]]



** InUniverse: Gale for Jesse, briefly. Ultimately subverted in that Walt really likes Gale and probably relates to him better than Jesse but decides he has to take Jesse back to keep him under control. As such, to get rid of him, Walter treats him like this.

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** InUniverse: Gale for Jesse, briefly. Ultimately subverted in that Walt really likes Gale and probably relates to him better than Jesse Jesse, but decides he has to take Jesse back to keep him under control. As such, to get rid of him, Walter treats him like this.



** Skyler has gradually undergone this over the course of the show, partially due to backlash against the contingent of fans who hated her so ferociously during the early seasons. It's no coincidence that as Walt falls deeper into the Heisenberg persona, Skyler's opposition to his behavior becomes more and more sympathetic. And when push comes to shove [[spoiler: she chooses Walt and protecting her family from the truth, over just handing him over to Hank. Even though the decision means destroying her relationship with her own sister, possibly forever.]]
** Hank began as Walt's obnoxious DEA brother-in law, which inevitably grated on people. Starting in season 2 after he shoots Tuco and slowly starts to have a nervous breakdown, he became an EnsembleDarkhorse due to actually displaying some competency and HiddenDepths.
** Marie got rescued, arguably, in season 4, when she shows her genuine love for Hank and tries everything to improve his situation and only gets coldness and distance. Then it happened for real in season 5 when [[spoiler:she finds out the whole truth, and slaps Skyler and even tries to take Holly out of the house. And then follows up by telling Walt point blank that he should just kill himself if he really wants this to end well for everyone.]]

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** Skyler has gradually undergone this over the course of the show, partially due to backlash against the contingent of fans who hated her so ferociously during the early seasons. It's no coincidence that as Walt falls deeper into the Heisenberg persona, Skyler's opposition to his behavior becomes more and more sympathetic. And when push comes to shove [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she chooses Walt and protecting her family from the truth, over just handing him over to Hank. Even though the decision means destroying her relationship with her own sister, possibly forever.]]
** Hank began as Walt's obnoxious DEA brother-in law, which inevitably grated on people. Starting in season 2 2, after he shoots Tuco and slowly starts to have a nervous breakdown, he became an EnsembleDarkhorse due to actually displaying some competency and HiddenDepths.
** Marie got rescued, arguably, in season 4, when she shows her genuine love for Hank and tries everything to improve his situation and only gets coldness and distance. Then it happened for real in season 5 when [[spoiler:she finds out the whole truth, and slaps Skyler and even tries to take Holly out of the house. And then follows up by telling Walt point blank point-blank that he should just kill himself if he really wants this to end well for everyone.]]



** Some of the people who began to dislike Jesse [[spoiler: after he sided with Hank in order to try and bring Walt down]] began to sympathize with him again [[spoiler: once he was turned into a slave for Jack's gang, and was forced to watch Andrea get murdered.]]

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** Some of the people who began to dislike Jesse [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after he sided with Hank in order to try and bring Walt down]] began to sympathize with him again [[spoiler: once [[spoiler:once he was turned into a slave for Jack's gang, and was forced to watch Andrea get murdered.]]murdered]].



** Skyler was this initially to the majority of fans early on. The bit where [[YourCheatingHeart she cheated on Walt with Ted]] only served to add fuel to the fire. Of course, it didn't help that she was in the rather thankless position of being in opposition to Walt's erratic behavior and suspicious actions. Even though the audience knew she had every right to be wary, given he was off cooking Meth, her husband initially had sympathetic motives. However as Walt's [[MotiveDecay motivation drifted]] from desperately wanting to provide for his family to feeding his own massive ego and greed, she began [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap gathering greater sympathy]].
** The Schraders didn't fare much better either- Hank is disliked for his boisterous, politically incorrect behavior while Marie was disliked for being a gossipy know-it-all. Hank is [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued]] after being injured and suffering panic attacks in Seasons 2 and 3 while Marie was largely rescued in Seasons 4 and 5 as she struggles to cope with an injured Hank's indifference towards her [[spoiler:and then after she TookALevelInBadass after her sister and brother-in-law are found to be engaging in criminal activities]].

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** Skyler was this initially to the majority of fans early on. The bit where [[YourCheatingHeart she cheated on Walt with Ted]] only served to add fuel to the fire. Of course, it didn't help that she was in the rather thankless position of being in opposition to Walt's erratic behavior and suspicious actions. Even though the audience knew she had every right to be wary, given he was off cooking Meth, meth, her husband initially had sympathetic motives. However However, as Walt's [[MotiveDecay motivation drifted]] from desperately wanting to provide for his family to feeding his own massive ego and greed, she began [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap gathering greater sympathy]].
** The Schraders didn't fare much better either- either -- Hank is disliked for his boisterous, politically incorrect behavior while Marie was disliked for being a gossipy know-it-all. Hank is [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued]] after being injured and suffering panic attacks in Seasons 2 and 3 while Marie was largely rescued in Seasons 4 and 5 as she struggles to cope with an injured Hank's indifference towards her [[spoiler:and then after she TookALevelInBadass after her sister and brother-in-law are found to be engaging in criminal activities]].



** There were also many fans that thought held Season 2 up as the best run of episodes of the show (at least before Season 5B), given its tight structure (Gilligan noted that it was the last time that the writers mapped out exactly what they wanted to do for a season well in advance), the introduction of fan-favorite characters like Saul, Mike and Gus, and the great impact it had in [[GrowingTheBeard growing the show's beard]].

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** There were also many fans that thought held Season 2 up as the best run of episodes of the show (at least before Season 5B), given its tight structure (Gilligan noted that it was the last time that the writers mapped out exactly what they wanted to do for a season well in advance), the introduction of fan-favorite characters like Saul, Mike Mike, and Gus, and the great impact it had in [[GrowingTheBeard growing the show's beard]].



** Walt repeatedly loses his money over and over again, and almost every time he goes back to making meth, he has ''nothing'' to show for it in the end. [[spoiler: Although he may have paid for his family's future, Hank is dead, the world knows who he is, his entire family hates him and is traumatized by what he did (and that's not even getting into how much legal damage he brought upon them), and almost everyone even ''remotely'' involved in the drug trade is either dead or ruined because of his actions.]]

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** Walt repeatedly loses his money over and over again, and almost every time he goes back to making meth, he has ''nothing'' to show for it in the end. [[spoiler: Although [[spoiler:Although he may have paid for his family's future, Hank is dead, the world knows who he is, his entire family hates him and is traumatized by what he did (and that's not even getting into how much legal damage he brought upon them), and almost everyone even ''remotely'' involved in the drug trade is either dead or ruined because of his actions.]]



** The distentegrated corpse falling through the floor in the second episode.
** [[spoiler: Gus' burnt face reminiscent of [[Film/TheDarkKnight Two-Face]] when he dies.]]

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** The distentegrated disintegrated corpse falling through the floor in the second episode.
** [[spoiler: Gus' [[spoiler:Gus' burnt face is reminiscent of [[Film/TheDarkKnight Two-Face]] when he dies.]]



** Declan. He is (seemingly) a BenevolentBoss who takes a more relaxed, matter-of-fact approach to the drug business, yet retains a professional demeanor and is quite savvy. His character arc could have proved an interesting Foil to both Gus's (who plays TheStoic and is rather ruthless) and Walt's (who is more emotionally turbulent and arguably ''more'' ruthless). Unfortunately, he doesn't show up until Season 5. [[spoiler: [[WeHardlyKnewYe Then he dies.]] ]]

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** Declan. He is (seemingly) a BenevolentBoss who takes a more relaxed, matter-of-fact approach to the drug business, yet retains a professional demeanor and is quite savvy. His character arc could have proved an interesting Foil to both Gus's (who plays TheStoic and is rather ruthless) and Walt's (who is more emotionally turbulent and arguably ''more'' ruthless). Unfortunately, he doesn't show up until Season 5. [[spoiler: [[WeHardlyKnewYe [[spoiler:[[WeHardlyKnewYe Then he dies.]] dies]].]]



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Mike has a granddaughter, Kaylee. Mike mentors Jesse. Jesse loves kids, having a strong BigBrotherInstinct. It would have been cool to see the two develop a bond, [[spoiler: especially after Mike's death]].

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Mike has a granddaughter, Kaylee. Mike mentors Jesse. Jesse loves kids, having a strong BigBrotherInstinct. It would have been cool to see the two develop a bond, [[spoiler: especially [[spoiler:especially after Mike's death]].



** This came up in the show itself. While the last two episodes, "Granite State" and "Felina" are widely considered superb in their own right and an excellent ending to the show, they also had the misfortune of following up "Ozymandias" which has been almost universally praised as both the best episode of the series, and one of the best episodes of television ''ever broadcast''. Some critics and fans feel that the final two episodes suffered a bit, for no other reason than being forced to follow the near perfect "Ozymandias".

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** This came up in the show itself. While the last two episodes, "Granite State" and "Felina" "Felina", are widely considered superb in their own right and an excellent ending to the show, they also had the misfortune of following up "Ozymandias" which has been almost universally praised as both the best episode of the series, and one of the best episodes of television ''ever broadcast''. Some critics and fans feel that the final two episodes suffered a bit, for no other reason than being forced to follow the near perfect "Ozymandias".



* TrueArtIsAngsty: One of the most critically-acclaimed TV shows of all time and also one of the darkest - and the darker it got, the more acclaim followed. The first season plays like a BlackComedy and, while considered good, is generally regarded as the weakest season. The harrowing fifth and final season displays Walter White's inevitable fall, shows just how far he's fallen as a human being, and is the most critically acclaimed season of the show. And ''Ozymandias'', the darkest and most emotionally-draining episode in the series, is already being hailed as BB's finest hour, if not one of the best episodes in TV history.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: One of the most critically-acclaimed TV shows of all time and also one of the darkest - -- and the darker it got, the more acclaim followed. The first season plays like a BlackComedy and, while considered good, is generally regarded as the weakest season. The harrowing fifth and final season displays Walter White's inevitable fall, shows just how far he's fallen as a human being, and is the most critically acclaimed season of the show. And ''Ozymandias'', the darkest and most emotionally-draining episode in the series, is already being hailed as BB's finest hour, if not one of the best episodes in TV history.



** Jesse falls under this again in ''Rabid Dog'', [[spoiler: he abandons Hank's plan to catch Walt in favor of his own, which isn't a bad plan per see. The problem is that he goes out of his way to rattle Walt's chain, prompting his former partner to put a hit out on Pinkman, thereby getting Jack's gang involved in the process.]]

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** Jesse falls under this again in ''Rabid Dog'', [[spoiler: he Dog'': [[spoiler:he abandons Hank's plan to catch Walt in favor of his own, which isn't a bad plan per see.se. The problem is that he goes out of his way to rattle Walt's chain, prompting his former partner to put a hit out on Pinkman, thereby getting Jack's gang involved in the process.]]



** Badger. He correctly realizes that he's being set up, but the undercover cop still gets him to fall for the old "cops can't deny that that they are cops if asked directly" urban legend .

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** Badger. He correctly realizes that he's being set up, but the undercover cop still gets him to fall for the old "cops can't deny that that they are cops if asked directly" urban legend .legend.



** Skyler could be argued as having been called out in-verse in "Ozymandias". If she hadn't let her pride get in the way, if she had confessed to Hank when he first learned the truth about Heisenberg, the entire train of events leading to [[spoiler:Hank's death, losing her daughter and having her own husband show the depths of his pettiness and anger before disappearing]] would not have happened.
** Hank [[spoiler: finally has Walt right where he wants him: blinded by rage, irrational, and leading Hank right toward a mountain of irrefutable evidence of Walt's wrongdoing. Does Hank immediately call for backup and bring the full force of the DEA down on Walt, complete with choppers and squadrons of agents in full SWAT gear? No. Does he at least phone his findings in to the DEA office so that if the worst should happen, his investigation doesn't die with him? No. He shows up with Gomez and a couple of guns and tells no one where they're going or why. Enter a bunch of heavily-armed neo-Nazis...]]

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** Skyler could be argued as having been called out in-verse in "Ozymandias". If she hadn't let her pride get in the way, if she had confessed to Hank when he first learned the truth about Heisenberg, the entire train of events leading to [[spoiler:Hank's death, losing her daughter daughter, and having her own husband show the depths of his pettiness and anger before disappearing]] would not have happened.
** Hank [[spoiler: finally [[spoiler:finally has Walt right where he wants him: blinded by rage, irrational, and leading Hank right toward a mountain of irrefutable evidence of Walt's wrongdoing. Does Hank immediately call for backup and bring the full force of the DEA down on Walt, complete with choppers and squadrons of agents in full SWAT gear? No. Does he at least phone his findings in to the DEA office so that if the worst should happen, his investigation doesn't die with him? No. He shows up with Gomez and a couple of guns and tells no one where they're going or why. Enter a bunch of heavily-armed neo-Nazis...]]



* WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: In the grand finale, [[spoiler: taking out a room full of people with a homemade sentry gun]] isn't the likeliest outcome, but who cares when the alternative is [[spoiler:neo-Nazis not getting their comeuppance]]?

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* WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief: In the grand finale, [[spoiler: taking [[spoiler:taking out a room full of people with a homemade sentry gun]] isn't the likeliest outcome, but who cares when the alternative is [[spoiler:neo-Nazis not getting their comeuppance]]?
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** Walt repeatedly loses his money over and over again, and almost every time he goes back to making meth, he has ''nothing'' to show for it in the end. [[spoiler: Although he may have paid for his family's future, Hank is dead, the entire world knows who he is, his entire family hates him and is traumatized by what he did, and almost everyone even ''remotely'' involved in the drug trade is either dead or ruined because of his actions.]]

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** Walt repeatedly loses his money over and over again, and almost every time he goes back to making meth, he has ''nothing'' to show for it in the end. [[spoiler: Although he may have paid for his family's future, Hank is dead, the entire world knows who he is, his entire family hates him and is traumatized by what he did, did (and that's not even getting into how much legal damage he brought upon them), and almost everyone even ''remotely'' involved in the drug trade is either dead or ruined because of his actions.]]
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: '''DrugsAreBad'''. Whether or not you use them or make them, it will ruin lives, including yours.
** Walt repeatedly loses his money over and over again, and almost every time he goes back to making meth, he has ''nothing'' to show for it in the end. [[spoiler: Although he may have paid for his family's future, Hank is dead, the entire world knows who he is, his entire family hates him and is traumatized by what he did, and almost everyone even ''remotely'' involved in the drug trade is either dead or ruined because of his actions.]]
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** The heroin injections in Season 2 by Jesse and Jane. Brrr...
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** The Salamanca twins, Leonel and Marco, from Season 3, are ruthless enforcers for the cartel. We get a hint of their viciousness when they decapitate an informant for the DEA named Tortuga and for a touch of black comedy put his head on a tortoise rigged with a bomb to catch the Federales. After arriving in America after the death of their cousin Tuco, the two slaughter every immigrant they arrived with, then kill an old woman to take her house as a base, and the [[CopKiller police officer]] who comes to investigate. The two later stalk and attempt to murder DEA agent Hank Schrader, treating everything with nothing more than [[TheStoic emotionless]], single-minded ruthlessness.
** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler: Jack later kills DEA agents Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]] and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis under threat of murdering his loved ones; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that Brock will be next if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]

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** The Salamanca twins, Leonel and Marco, from Season 3, are ruthless enforcers for the cartel. We get a hint of their viciousness when they decapitate an informant for the DEA named Tortuga and for a touch of black comedy BlackComedy put his head on a tortoise rigged with a bomb to catch the Federales. After arriving in America after the death of their cousin Tuco, the two slaughter every immigrant they arrived with, then kill an old woman to take her house as a base, and the [[CopKiller police officer]] who comes to investigate. The two later stalk and attempt to murder DEA agent Hank Schrader, treating everything with nothing more than [[TheStoic emotionless]], single-minded ruthlessness.
** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler: [[HeroKiller Jack later kills kills]] [[CopKiller DEA agents agents]] [[HeroKiller Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez Gomez]] with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]] and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis [[IWillPunishYourFriendForYourFailure under threat of murdering his loved ones; ones]]; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that [[WouldHurtAChild Brock will be next next]] if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]
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** The Salamanca twins, Leonel and Marco, from Season 3, are ruthless enforcers for the cartel. We get a hint of their viciousness when they decapitate an informant for the DEA named Tortuga and for a touch of black comedy put his head on a tortoise rigged with a bomb to catch the Federales. After arriving in America after the death of their cousin Tuco, the two slaughter every immigrant they arrived with, then kill an old woman to take her house as a base, and the police officer who comes to investigate. The two later stalk and attempt to murder DEA agent Hank Schrader, treating everything with nothing more than [[TheStoic emotionless]], single-minded ruthlessness.
** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler: Jack later kills DEA agents Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman enslaved and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis under threat of murdering his loved ones; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that Brock will be next if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]

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** The Salamanca twins, Leonel and Marco, from Season 3, are ruthless enforcers for the cartel. We get a hint of their viciousness when they decapitate an informant for the DEA named Tortuga and for a touch of black comedy put his head on a tortoise rigged with a bomb to catch the Federales. After arriving in America after the death of their cousin Tuco, the two slaughter every immigrant they arrived with, then kill an old woman to take her house as a base, and the [[CopKiller police officer officer]] who comes to investigate. The two later stalk and attempt to murder DEA agent Hank Schrader, treating everything with nothing more than [[TheStoic emotionless]], single-minded ruthlessness.
** Jack Welker, from Season 5, leader of the [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Aryan Brotherhood]], is just as nasty as any of the Mexican Cartel. Jack starts off using his prison connections to arrange the murders of ten prisoners Walter White is afraid will turn State's witness. [[spoiler: Jack later kills DEA agents Hank Schrader and Steve Gomez with his gang and steals the money Walt had buried for his own after personally executing Hank. Jack keeps Walt's old partner Jesse Pinkman enslaved [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]] and chained in the meth lab to cook for the Nazis under threat of murdering his loved ones; this threat turns out not to be idle as when Jesse attempts to escape, he is forced to witness the murder of his beloved Andrea while Jack says that Brock will be next if Jesse tries anything again. Even when Walt returns, Jack decides to kill him rather than bother with any other step and only stops to parade Jesse's poor treatment in front of him.]]
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